Full exchange between Indranee Rajah and Leong Mun Wai on parliamentary resources for MPs
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Debate on Parliamentary Resources for the opposition: Leong Mun Wai Calls for Opposition Hour and Increased Allowances, Indranee Rajah Defends Existing System.
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Mr Leong is definitely doing more than his fair share of work, being more active in parliament than many elected MPs. He has raised many points with sincerity and reason, but many Singaporeans who say they would like an alternative voice seems to be more interested in berating him rather than applauding his hard work. Interestingly, the ones making fun of him often do so in broken English. I mean look in the mirror sometimes really.
We do need a good alternative voice, and he has been trying his best, and improving as time goes by. Thank you Mr Leong for your hard work!
By the way, many elected MPs do not engage in debates, meaning their work load might be lower compared to Mr Leong.
Greatest Respect
We want good opposition and not just any opposition
@@primusreborn Mr Leong is definitely not "any" opposition
Mr Leong definitely has the iron in him. He is like one of us, work hard. Self made. And now serving the people. Those who laugh at him are too indoctrinated in our elitist system.
@Blaxer cast iron u mean? Hahaha. Shatter easily. Hahahaha
we should appreciate what LMW had done the most for Singaporean in the parliament debate as compared to ruling party MPs and other opposition parties.
He talks nothing but rubbish
Then should vote for the PHV driver who join the election every term. PHV driver better than LMW the kopitiam uncle. Haha
Appreciation alone is quite enough why do u have the input ur bias comparison at the end of ur statement. I mean without actual context to validate ur comparison it just show how narrow minded u really are and inwouild appreciate people like u can move to a ideal place like the united states so u may obtain a peace of mind.
Still early days to give a comment. We shouldn't judge someone for what he says but what he does.
Amazing speech..
The Workers’ Party’s Low Thia Khiang once remarked: “I came to a conclusion. You can talk until the cows come home, debate until the cows come home in Parliament. The PAP will not change. It is the people, the electorate that have to show them, they have to change.”
The question is, will Singaporeans change?
Why change when it's still very good?
Why change for Joker?
@@kaler231 😂😂😂
@@Jack-hy2kiyeap u are right. GST 9%, upcoming satellite ERP, COE 100k. Very good indeed.
the IBs are dwelling on RUclips too... all these supporters are truly loyal to their master 😂😂
The beginning of the end of a falling dynasty.
Indranee said MPs have more than the fair share of opportunities to raise issues in parliament to hold the government accountable, but when MPs like Leong Mun Wai and Sylvia Lim raised doubts or questions in parliament, particularly when there is a lack of information and they needed to raised these in parliament to get answers, MPs like Indranee accused them of not doing their homework and come to parliament to raise doubts which are unsubstantiated. So at one end, these MPs from the ruling party are not willing to release all information for everyone to access, yet accuse others for not doing their homework when they hardly have any information on their table, and now they bring us back to square one saying if you have no information, come to parliament and raise questions for it. So in my mind is, they are just saying anything for their own interests.
I can find answer online and they can't? Really nv do homework.
I think LMW is doing a wonderful job He raises many good points, works much harder than many PAP MPs
LMW deserves praises. Thumbs up for his courage
official support for the opposition is done in most countries where the opposition is part of the political system. it does not mean that his party cannot make it. MPs need resources to do their work. you can't expect to do a good job of scrutinising legislation with the help of part-time volunteers, which is what happens in Sg. and btw, his salary as an NCMP is only $2k per month.
Lol 1 mil leh not $1, where to find the fund?
In the end they will raise taxes to fund the opposition meh?
And think shouldn’t opposition work harder and do their homework before coming to parliament instead of requesting for handouts.
His salary is not 2K but 5 digit pay. A clerk starting pay is nearly 2K so how can it be his pay is the same as a clerk.
@@diesopain260 exactly
Some anti-gvt here even requested ministers to have pay cuts and this guy asking for more allowance.
@@azam-eu5wi haha, yeah also need to ask him whether is $1mil per month or $1mil per annum for a ‘research’ dept to spoon feed him.
I will definitely vote for him if he ever come to my ward the next election 👍
Full disclosure of facts, full revelation of reasons for implement a policy would be useful and relevant for all MP to participate in the discussion and deliberate that will benefit all Singaporean working adults and their family.
But we should base on Believing what. If we Trust, do we still need any Transparency? Most singaporeans Believe
GDP = something + Gov Spending. Name me a person you know who individually audited this figure called spending . We should not always ask for Data and Transparency. We should base on Believing in this day and age. G spending can be easily classified as Top Secret. So how can GDP ever be transparent? GDP is like Religion😅 Can we also not cite National Security and Interest as excuse ?😅 See, who can debate with me? You cannot debunk Truth
3 cheers to Mr Leong
For standing up to truth
Mr Leong did more work than many PAP members who just keep quiet but get the allowance. 👍👐👏
Leong Mun Wai who first stepped into the arena.
It frequently takes not only one Minister but a few to have a go at him. On top of that, the Speaker of Parliament interjects on behalf of the Ministers, never once on behalf of Leong Mun Wai.
And while all this is happening, the People’s Action Party (PAP) Members of Parliament merely sit and watch. So it’s no surprise that on the rare occasion, they try to debate an opposition member, they find themselves out of touch and out of their league.
Given all the debating that Leong Mun Wai has had to do, a few knocks here and there, an apology or two is fair game.
k.
Good speeches and logical explanation by Indranee Rajah, the caliber between the PAP and Opp is quite distinguish still.
Real gold is not afraid of fire keep on doing your good work we concerned citizens will be represented in the best possible ways
A responsible opposition party should not ascribe their incompetence to produce better alternative policy to the lack of resources and data. PAP started their journey of nation building barehanded without any resources. But with their diligence and determination, they could work out remarkable policies bringing better life for our people. Now we are a developed nation with pools of experts and talents, opposition party could easily tap the resources of their staunch supporters many of whom are veteran architect, city planner, ex-chief economist, ex-CEO of telco, legal practitioner, entrepreneur, etc. The difference in the outcome between ruling party’s and opposition party’s is just a matter of putting the people’s interest above their party’s.
Freedom Information Act?
Everything was thrown out?
One LMW = 83 PAP MPs..
LMW is brave and bold, i applaud him for opposing the pap and their supporters all the time!
Things won't change until that Lee clan is gone and done with. Until then, these 80 over PAP MPs particularly the central cabinet will never depart from the old style of LKY way of goverance ,which is total dormination without any opposition.
If LMW thought there is any chance that things would change , he is only dreaming.
Which brings me to say the facts, so when will some change really happen ,where truly 2 parties will have an equal say on issues and policies, NOT less than 20 to 30 yrs from now, which in a more simple way of looking at things, not less than 4 elections from now. Many ppl making comments here, would be long dead and gone to dust including our Mr Leong and maybe even Pritam. Good luck.
Leong mun wai gets less, however for pap they can use state power against critics
When was this?
Why not let the singaporeans do the talking and the ministers do the listening?
Lmw your high pay is not enough meh?
Enough is never enough.
The Leader of the Opposition is given a higher allowances and more resources. But Pritam Singh was too quick to announce that he would donate half of his allowance.
Was it because of being popular without thinking how to use the funds?
Allowance = salary genius. It's not bloody pocket money to spend for their policies. He is donating half of his salary away. How much of your dear PM and other high earning minister's salary are donated away? It certainly isn't half of it.
I dont know how much they donate but I am sure they pay a fair share to income tax.
I dont see an issue of paying the ministers a high salary if they can deliver results because their market value is of that amount.
Even WP's ministerial salary formula proposal was similar to the current salary package.
@@fed02 That's not what you were arguing about genius. Why you shifting gears from your original statement?
Your original statement was confusing minister allowances as finance given to parties to use.
"The Leader of the Opposition is given a higher allowances and more resources. But Pritam Singh was too quick to announce that he would donate half of his allowance."
Allowance and resources have nothing to do with each other. Now you want to suddenly talk about income tax?
So, what? The opposition members don't pay income tax? Get out of here. Next time, think twice before writing rubbish in the comments.
Though, I have to say, you follow the PAP playbook very well. When called out on something, ignore it, and distract people with something else.
@kaister901 do u announced to the whole world when u donate? What do we normally say about those always high key showing they are donating? So why pritam so high key announced he donates leh? Simple answer.
@@Jack-hy2ki Irrelevant argument. Let me guess? You failed in school? Original comment and my replies are addressing an entirely different point. Apples and oranges. If you don't know what that means, go back to school.
At some places in Singapore looks like UNICEF with all kinds of Nationality in between Rich and Poor and even Young Singaporean who seems to be asking discrimination question,
and i also don't eat INDO MEE WÍTH EGG to the media.
IT IS CHEAP FOod.
You are correct.
Sometimes i eat one egg with rice.
I strongly auggest singaporeans NOT to vote for the PAP in the next 2 elections. What has the pap DONE for singaporeans after 10 or 20 years? The pap only cares about giving their own white shirt pap peoples $500k or 600k and giving back to each singaporean only a meagle $400 or $500 per year only.
The Parliament should limit time speaking duration among non elected Mps and Elected MPs. For example allow elected MPs speak longer time than or over non elected Mps speak less. Time allocation should decide by Parliament. Fair!
It seems the only way to survive in parliament is to be a lawyer....how very tragic. Mps should be allowed to express concerns without fear and under parliamentary privilege
Why do u'tube insists of providing sub standard english on the screen when the speaker is speaking in english. It frustrates the viewer to see words like meagre becomes megual.
Everything Rise Up. Gap between The Poor - The Middle Class - The Rich & Wealthy - The SUPER RICH and SUPER WEALTHY is so obvious. Can see just by the Schools and The District the Study and Live in.
Education is compulsory in singapore. Therefore, even the poor can have their children educated and get a well paying job as long as they study hard. Besides that, Singapore is conducive environment for studying as it is peaceful, stable and safe. There is religious and racial harmony in Singapore. There is meritocracy. There is little to no corruption. The poor are able to have homes and are able to travel anywhere through the convenient mrt and bus system. To be honest, having homes, being able to travel, being given opportunity to be educated and upgrade skills are already very good. The poor from other countries would love to be 'poor' here than elsewhere.. of course, the prerequisite to survive in singapore is to be disciplined, to be hardworking, to be resourceful and to grab opportunities that are given. To wait for help and be lazy is not an option.
PAP says they want to engage Singaporean, but will they give us a fair answer?
Nobody talks about high COE prices?
During these time around 5.30am to 6.45am are majority white hairs who took MRTs' and Bus and they are not really strong enough because not yet bathe.
Where you come from LM, PAP is from the beginning and dping all the best they could to all singaporean. Please take note dear PSP Mr Leong.
🇸🇬 Singapore is Not to Set-Up An Opposition Department to hold Opposition Teams Be The Chairperson.
He is asking the government aka PAP for more resources aka money so that he can grow a serious opposition. What logic is this? What a joke…
You are literally saying your party cannot make it so need help and support. How to win votes like this sia…
The government quietly laughing
I'm laughing too, loudly
this is done in most countries where the opposition is part of the political system. it does not mean that his party cannot make it. MPs need resources to do their work. you can't expect to do a good job of scrutinising legislation with the help of part-time volunteers, which is what happens in Sg. and btw, his salary as an NCMP is only $2k per month.
@@ckymcmxcv which country? Last I checked, most democratic countries’ opposition are fighting to take over government, not merely scrutinise it. Asking for money to help scrutinise? Come on!
@@ckymcmxcv bro $1 mil leh, how the government source the fund for him. Confirm raise taxes on you lo.
Also not sure is $1mil per month or per annum. Plus take government money always end up in bad ways. Misuse of funds all that nonsense sure come out one if he cannot handle the funds well enough and even if the government adopts his suggestions they themselves can implement and will hire their own capable people because the money belong to the government.
Then LMW will never ‘trust’ the research team facts and figures cause the research team is own by the government.
If he sorely need some research team to assist him, he should go find his own funds and fund himself and hire his own research team. If he really no money he can crowdfund. I am sure you will want to fund him so that he can ‘perform’ better in parliament .
He better wake up his idea. For Country for People.
Pap need,the,support too from people n reserve n funds right same
An Extra Department for Opposition Teams may Create Another Authority To Govern .... Making Singapore TWO or More Governments instead which is Not An Ideal Route For Asian Parliament .
What i see these days at some places looks like Madras, Culcutta or Rajestran or even Batu Pahat or Pontian.
It is a sad pity look.
LMW's critics are pretending that they are smarter than him, as if they knew better than him on the points he raised.
Without this exchange would Singaporeans even know how and why these things work the way they do? That's the whole point of an opposition voice, to point out things that are seemingly not right and then get a detailed explanation by the government, keeping status quo if need be. These constant challenging, explaining and reviewing are ultimately good for the system.
So long as opposition MPs conduct themselves in an honourable manner, these kind of debates are fantastic. If Singaporeans continue to mock the "losers" of debates, it may turn into a competition for MPs to score political points, defending to their death even the other side makes a better point, just so they don't look foolish.
What? Did I hear it wrong? PSP just asked for control of many funds. Ops haven’t displayed any abilities but argue in parliament, how can they be trusted for so many funds?
Who this Burger
Leong man Wai?
Hey Liam I'm new to this
Indranee Rajah speech is articulate, precise and clear. It answers all doubts LMW has and improves his knowledge. LMW should not simply throw smoke without any background knowledge as it confuses the general public.
Mr Leong in parliament…😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
How about you in Parliament 😂
@@karthikmohan338 That's a good idea. LoL
@@looyeekhang7658 First, you have to pray hard that you're "smart" enough to be granted the right to sit in the musical chairs, or you won't be one of the kakilangs of your party.
At least this time not bad not bad
@@karthikmohan338 Better than lmw can already
Singapore need more real breed local that really care for local citizens not just want high salary ministers. Singapore so small island yet their salary are few times higher than those countries bigger in size n populations.
I saw a lady gangster in parliament.
Joker LeongMY again 😂
He is from Raffles Institution.I hate those who condemned RI is a lousy school. My gifted son told the students in RI are gifted from Heaven. Fyi
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My daughter is gift from heaven. Happy
Mr Leong may be an idiot to those in parliament. But I love it and we need more voices like Mr Leong.
Well done, Mr Leong Sir.
Mr,Leong mun,wai is good
LMW is not cut out for this and Singaporeans doesn't need to suffer due to his inability
When calling Parliament set up a research department to help MPs in their research, PSP NCMP revealed the weakness of opposition party not being able and capable to produce alternative policies having the same breath and depth as the Government’s, because they do not have the resources to conduct comprehensive and in-depth researches. Such divulgence gave voters impression that the “Affordable Housing Scheme” and the “Millennial Apartments Scheme” recently proposed by PSP are not better alternatives than the existing policies being implemented by the Government. This is indeed contrary to the PSP’s claim that its manifesto offers a better alternative to the current problems that we are facing as a nation. Logically voters would thus be curious to find out how did PSP work out their alternative policies in their manifesto, when they have no resources to conduct researches to understand in-dept our economic, social and political problems. It leads them to further question - are these alternative policies down to earth and viable?
WP did not make similar calling and neither did they stand up to support PSP’s calling, obviously the “lack of resources” is the problem only faced by PSP. Perhaps they should revamp their own party operations before making any proposal to change our National policies.
The YAYA questioning the PAPAYA
Bring back tony tan and Sr Nathan and lee kuan yew 😂
In comparison, the NMPs did a better job than NCMP. NMPs are also not given allowance for Legislative Assistants.
LMW got balls at least he raised valid points and speaks sense. vs this Indian lady who rode to parliament on LKY coat tails and she should frankly ask herself what has she done for the nation and the people in her many years of politics? Waste of tax payers money so many useless MPs. 😢
The GAHHMEN.....😂😂😂😂
Notion : Pay High High, Best Talent will come.
Falsehood : that assumes there is competition😅
SG LOST until nothing left vs Malaysia champions . SG players so highly paid in SGD , yet.... HUMILIATINGLY TROUNCED By Malaysia Boleh. I no no where to hide my sg face. 😅
Rude, Crude and a baggage on the opposition. Do it with style and finesse like Mr Chiam or Mr Low Thia Kiang. This guy is just being a recalcitrant and a mule.
This is what happens when you only get to sit and watch. You end up forever a greenhorn.
It doesn’t help that many of the PAP MPs enter Parliament without having to campaign and make speeches, courtesy of a walkover. And once in Parliament, they never get to debate because it’s always the Ministers who do the job. ( so who are the useless MPs again the pap)
Given all the debating that Leong Mun Wai has had to do, a few knocks here and there, an apology or two is fair game.
Wow! U using a few account to comment. Trying to make it look like many supporting LMW? Why use such despicable tactic? Scare to have a fair fight? 😂
k.
Q4⁴
What's
Reasonable &
Practical is when Singaporean convert PAP to a FIRST WORLD OPPOSITION PARTY after GE2025
WE would nominate DPM Wong as The Leader of The Opposition Party in Parliament House
Only then WE can speak about The Future for Singaporean definitely
I dont think that can happen, pap and lw's repute and image already are rotten and no good in the eyes of the young and middle aged.
Only the small oppo and big oppositions can form the next government of singapore.
No one has taken more potshots than him. No one has been asked to apologise more often.
Focus so much on his tone for what?
In fact, we are already seeing a much-improved version of the Leong Mun Wai who first stepped into the arena.
(Cause pap are COWARDS!) all attack one person)
It frequently takes not only one Minister but a few to have a go at him. On top of that, the Speaker of Parliament interjects on behalf of the Ministers, never once on behalf of Leong Mun Wai.
And while all this is happening, the People’s Action Party (PAP) Members of Parliament merely sit and watch. So it’s no surprise that on the rare occasion, they try to debate an opposition member, they find themselves out of touch and out of their league.
k.
Ms Indranee is so good
the Flip flop LMW😂 At least this time he come up with something meaningful but was crush yet again by hard facts 😂 Improving though.
i do not understand, the opposition MP already have more salary than PAP, still not enough?
Nope pap salary is higher
The opposition MP have more salary than PAP? R u sure or not? LoL
Wat cave are u living in😂
Remidis, what evidence u hv that opposition MP higher than MP? I know most of the opposition are full time MP whereas PAP MP still hold full time JOB (eg. Lawyer) and is a part time MP
I mean PAP MP
🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬🌳🌳🌳😁😁😁🎖️
Leong is coming MP but dreaming long long 🤣
Short sighted
Bravo LMW you are the best.
Best jester!
Is he a kongker?
Spetletiing wrong
👍 👋
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lame exchanges...
What did the pap done for singaporeans? What did the pap done? It has already been more than 10 or 20 years already.
😂😂😂😂😂keep complaining 😂😂😂
@@HuMI317 hi bro, i am just stating facts. I am just telling the truths. What has the pap compensated for singaporens or even DONE for singaporeans?
Leong maintained his cool while indranee and her PAPPIGS behaved like big bad bullies and wolves in disguise 🥸😃🙏🙏.
ACTION speaks louder than words. If the PAP really cares and wants to HELP singaporeans, they would have already helped singaporeans by doing things for singaporeans and giving back singaporeans more GST money or cash.
Leong mun wai is the only psp ncmp that speaks up for all those that are poor, middle aged, the meek and opposed the pap.
what did the pap DONE or forked out for singaporeans? NOTHING at all after years and years..
Circus show😂😂😂
LMW is the clown 😂