Are The Backrooms RUINED? I asked a friend.
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Like turning Siren Head into diet Slenderman, the Backrooms has become bootleg SCP.
@Valere Walton with the thousands of "levels" and the vast amount of BS entities, it most certainly became a bootleg SCP
A bootleg SCP is not Backrooms, that award goes to RPC which is run by racists and originally made the thing all because of a funny rainbow flag.
Backrooms and SCP only similarity are its website layout and the concept of Entity’s and SCP being pretty similar. Other than that the general world building and concepts of both worlds are not the same thing. Idc if the backrooms doesn’t have its simplicity anymore by adding more shit cause that’s what the SCP Foundation did too.
@@thedillpickleman015 i think what's meant by "bootleg SCP" is 'something that was a cool idea, that got ruined the more people got involved with it' and the Backrooms suffered from this far worse than SCP. Not necessarily that they're the same thing.
So yeah in fairness, a better term is needed
Lol dont worry wikidot and wiki have exist and its dont take dumb things (there troll entity and funny levels but they dont have connection with backrooms lore)
@Valere Walton random player characters
I personally wouldn't see Kane Pixels as the starting point, as I'm pretty sure the added on levels and crap were already there, Kane just went down the path of making their own canon, something that's the Backrooms is basically built on; a not agreed canon to the Backrooms, which will throw people around.
Also, for Heavenly, yeah, it was bacteria.
Exactly, he wasn’t the one who started the whole 9000 levels thing, he just made a spooky footage vid
Bacteria screaming monkey sounds.
Nah bruh he is the starting point, so it started on Kane uploading a vid on the backrooms it was cool for a moment until it started to become popular and a lot of youtubers started making the same content and Kane sees this as an opportunity to make money so he makes more content until it comes to matpat's radar and it turned to be one of matpat effect an effect of where something that shouldn't have a lore or story and makes it a lore by gluing together all the clues why? Cos he's matpat an annoying person like minecraft could be better off without a lore dude and now it started the backrooms domino it will be more and more popular on RUclips until it reaches the end of the domino
His first few videos were fine, but i quit after introduced the hazmat dudes
@@Xelogenic That’s why creators create, to make money lol
What I personally like about the Backrooms is the surreality of it all. One moment you're going through a series of yellow hallways, to a place where's there's water everywhere, to a wide open but somehow still enclosed forest, maybe a weird desert or parking garage and then right back to the hallways again. It's weird but in a good way in my opinion.
I agree
I was fine with a few levels, not 999999999999 of them. I say up to twelve was fine.
In which Heavenly gets to rant and does a great job at it!
What the Backrooms has become is just the Walmart version of SCP.
Not even Walmart it's the garage sales version
The home depot of scp
@@Ghost-pc9ey no its the goodwill of scp
@@Ghost-pc9ey wait till you see ever expanding bunker
I think its more like a roblox game than a bootleg of SCP, In the SCP fundation the focus its the entities, In the modern backrooms lore/wiki, the focus its making the "level" like a short videogames where you have to escape
So. For a small clarification. Kane did bring this back into a spotlight but the...mythos? For a lack of a better word was expanding for a few years after the original creepypasta. Quite a few things today existed back then. Pool room. Party goers. Smile faces. The parking lot. The complex. Etc. My faintest memories I remember there having expanded to either 7 or 12 floors. And a floor 0. The original date of the first creepypasta escapes me but I think the additions would follow for 2 to 3 years after before interest died off
tbh the concept of something being in this infinite wet room/hallway that you sorta notice but never truly encounter would be scary as heck gong from "is there anything in here?" to "holy fuck theres somehting in here!" but only after youve wandered about for a loong time the thought process of "is it a person?, is it something dangerous?, should i be scared?!" is really interesting
Yeah that stuff is more interesting than knowing the thing ur after at like the enemy of the backrooms should be the unknown u know
That’s scary as heck dude
I think its an evolution of media in the internet . You make something and it takes a life of its own through complete strangers enaging in it.
really can't begrudge people for coming up with their own ideas. i still love the emptiness of the original backrooms, too.
Whenever someone says gatekeeping is a bad thing, remember SCP
The backrooms has been corrupted and it's a tragedy
GODDAMNIT KAB I WASN'T TABBED IN AND THE OUTRO MUSIC SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME
Especially with ideas being taken from other places, like the Zombies that chase you in the night from Dying Light, or even more frustratingly, Cartoon Cat, made by Trevor Henderson.
Kane Pixels is a new phenomenon which has brought back a lot of what was good about the old backrooms. All of the other Wattpad shite came before.
As a person who has only really watched heavenly through Badger’s content, suddenly seeing him just ‘calmly’ talking about this is just kinda jarring. Still really cool to see.
Kabhaal and heavenly seem to perfectly bounce off of each other. They just blend together so well
This is something I noticed. In a sense I can understand why adding things to the backrooms, because the sense of nothingness can only go as far. At first I didn't agree with the critics that adding things made it worse, but then I started to realize they were right.
Kane Pixels is the biggest example because it's the most well-produce The Backrooms' related media. It has some well-produced things but what is the point? It had a really really good episode when they finally find something, but the more I read, the more all that production values seem pointless. It was a mistake to make the backrooms so tied with technology, because it's more about the company behind it than the backrooms themselves - like an episode is just them checking things in a screen and that's...really boring and even if they put lore subtletly, there's such a thing as being too subtle.
But I find it more interesting, than backrooms having nothing and an desolate wasteland with nothing in it which I feel weird rather than a forgotten realm of neglected abandoned places.
I think if backrooms was gatekeeped and never actually added an single thing that made it interesting and "unique" like the stupid scp version level game, it would have died off, and we wouldn't get almost realistic backrooms animations.
Kane pixels version is alot better than alot of those backrooms wiki paRtyGoeR, you win level or faceling entity that are human like but not human.
Apart from that I liked original and kane pixels version rather than survival orientated backrooms.
only true backrooms ogs can feel the pain of people turning something we love into garbage fnf type content fandom crap with fnaf and all sorts of crap mujshed in to one concept to gain the algorythm
Agreed
Agreed it’s sad to see them being ruined
Same and agreed :[
I agree
To be honest, the idea of wandering through the Backrooms for days on end and then the first living thing you come across is Jeff Bezos in a loincloth is actually pretty disturbing.
Reddit, TikTok, and other such trash turned one of the coolest concepts in the history of creepypastas into a fucking Bag of Holding. That seems about right.
Yeah but you have to remember slender man got ruined differently
@@NERMAL1984 Maybe getting neutered with popularity is just part of the natural life cycle of a creepypasta.
@@jaffarebellion292 That's literally the definition of a trend, I don't understand why people are surprised by this. Someone starts something that's niche and cool, then it gets popular and people change it up, eventually everyone gets sick of it and a new trend pops up and the cycle continues. Exactly what happened to Slenderman and Jeff the Killer.
@@Providence.. I'm not surprised, I just find myself disappointed again and again.
I'm the kind of person where if I'm going to be drawn to something, it's generally going to be because I enjoy it as it is. So I go in expecting it to be as cool as it was when I first heard about it. Sadly, when something niche like this gets popular enough for me to hear about it, it's already crashing and burning because a bunch of idiots who think they can make it better with their theorycrafting bullshit beat me to the punch. It's getting tiresome, if I'm being honest.
Yeah its a pretty predictable fate to popular stories that have no editor oversight
I know that feeling. My mom used to work after hours in our church pantry. Being there in the building after it was closed was an erie feeling I never quite got used to. The feeling of "you shouldn't be here." Especially when I was without her when I would walk down the hall to the restroom and stuff, that feeling of trespass would persist.
Lmao this feeling of how the backrooms thing has blown up the way it has is the same frustration I have with the Slenderman concept 😂 I watched it go from creepy pasta to the cryptid creatures that possibly haunt our world unnoticed 🤣
Heavenly doing the pizza sim speech killed me
"...Your lust for blood has driven you in endless circles, chasing the cries and laughs of children..."
_Kabhaal laughing sound bite plays_
I like how the backrooms having factions was such a horrible idea that everyone forgot that was a thing for a while and no one brings it up or the random supply crates that pop up because of the levels/factions when talking about what ruined the backrooms lol
I am mostly upset about how gamified it all is
I mean there are factions, health fountains, resting points etc.
Backrooms is basically SCPwiki done by 12-15 y.o. kids
So scpwiki?
@@RyderMCG Well, modern SCPwiki is moderated by sophomores.
I like how there are factions in the backrooms.
Its so dumb its funny.
not really its not bad its just not the backrooms
@@spydernoobgaming6707 it's bad
@@spydernoobgaming6707 its not bad, its terrible.
Yeah, I always thought the backrooms was just one of those eerie abandoned place things, like those videos about abandoned malls and compilations of dilapidated building with minecraft cave music xD
To me, it was better that way, if I want SCP I’ll just go to SCP.
And with SCP you actually get good, quality controlled content. Not something a teenager wrote in like two hours, that was then copied 10 times
For me, the horror of the backrooms is similar to something like The Truman Show. The idea that reality isn't what you thought it was, and what it is is something you can never hope to understand.
liminal space is a place that your meant to travel through not stick around in for long enough for it to change. such as a hospital at midnight, a school after dark, a bare bones mall, a nightime gas station, a nightime field/farm or an empty city. theres also the complete vacancy of life sets off your instincts that somethings wrong or like your trespassing in a predators domain like when a forest goes queit or your military example. in the backrooms these liminal spaces are inteded to be infinite like the original level so the empty hospital would go on and on with no end for example.
My opinion is this is riding the the same feel as the infinite Ikea, but with alot less.
Neverending, no real exit, and like spoken of topic, something stalking you.
Yet when you figure out how to survive the horror turns to survival instinct.
Yet the internet in all of it's glory can also be a source of ruin.
At first glance, I got kinda lucky seeing the video (by Mr. Backrooms) before anything else.
If the monster was just something that was walking around and would occasionally stare/watch you as you walk. I think it would make it better. Something chasing me would be scary but not as scary as someone watching me for a far and/or i see it as it runs around the corner
Yeah back in 2019 the backrooms were still unknown, years went by and it got more popular day by day, even I made some backrooms vids but mines are based off the 4 Chan post. These found footage backrooms vids have been around since the beginning, so these very popular Backroom creators aren't doing anything new, not saying there bad but in some way they all feel the same. Making vids of multiple backrooms level ls isn't really my main problem, what's worse is the wiki's! Lord there are TOO MANY.
Didn't know this many people had the same opinion about the backrooms as me, this video was amazing bro thank you for mentioning this
Honestly the best backrooms rant video I have seen. Has a newer fan of It (like didnt really know/cared of It back in 2019) I can tell you that the guy got spot on everything bad with It. Somethings were wrong and I still dont like how Kane pixels gets the blame cause he didnt start most of the Wiki stuff but yeah. Levels being just random real world places, stupid rules (there are multiple levels that you can escape by playing arcade games, tell me how does that work...), oversaturation and general lack of polish. I do think some stuff like entities ,even if they defeat the concept, can be kind of interesting and cool but yeah great video.
I agree with you regarding the frustration of a perfectly good self-contained horror concept being diluted into meaninglessness mediocrity.
Though I have to say that the "Kane Pixels" series of videos are surprisingly well produced.
Sometimes, doing less is actually doing more.
It really should be something like the monsters may be there, but may also just be isolation-induced hallucinations! Figures made of shadows that may just be an actual trick of the light and the person reacting as though it were real and so on.
I like the idea of levels and no entities
ok, got to the part where Kabhaal talks about what they would do if they were to add a monster, I think if I were to do it I would make it something that is under the carpet. So you can see this lump in the carpet moving towards you, but you don't know what's under there, and maybe the size of the lump in the carpet changes so you don't know if there are multiple things of different sizes, if there is one that can change size, or if there is something very big under there, but only a small portion is brushing up under the carpet, then you can have areas with tears or holes in the carpet to indicate that something may have happened involving whatever it is there.
The video was really entertaining and glad I was able to see it since I missed some parts on the livescream!
I remember, no I still am, weary of the basements. Especially if I have to turn off the lights.
In my old apartment, I would have this reoccurring dream that there was this beast down there. So I made a way to cope.
If the lights are ON, the floor is covered in a thin layer of electricity, that while safe for me, freezes the beastie in place. And it turns off when I turn off the light, in which case I slam the basement door and lock it securely!
There, easy!
I feel like the backrooms could have a monster if, and ONLY IF, it never gets the "protagonist"(for a lack of a better term). Like take the figure of the Bacteria right? Have it always be in the corner of the protagonist's eye. No matter how fast they look at it's direction or anything it's always gone. Then it becomes a point where the protagonist is essentially just screaming for whatever is there just kill them and get it over with. Even when they're laying on the ground starving and dying the entity continues to never leave the corner's of their eyes, never getting closer, never acting aggressive just standing there *watching*.
This is... informative. It put things back together. I like it.
But... what's happening in the screen? Who's "playing"?
I got jumpscared at the end, I don't know if it's intentional or not lol
i dont mind adding a few creatures especially the more subtle creatures or people like a few survivors or tiny camps of maybe 5 people cause the idea of wandering alone can grow stale and having a reason not to just rewatch stuff on your phone at a outlet you find would be a good one. the various levels can be neat and adds more to the backrooms than just an endless maze of yellow halls as it keeps it fresh and being able to escape gives a reason for someone to make a story other than the protag getting lost and dying of lack of food or suicide. having some rules for certian levels can addd to the creepinessif its something like dont go out into the dark area or avoid the daytime in the empty village level but some are ridicoulos stuff like Align the 12 Stones of Power on the sacred altar then activate the medallion at the moment of total eclipse.
However with things like multiple factions that now have mining operations and carevans as well as edgy ocs inserted in, its too much even for me. what drew me in was the journey through madness, trying to survive twisted surrondings desperatly hoping to see another person or the 1 person you found wont just diseappear or get dragged away by a creature not scp 2 electric boogaloo.
I don't agree some of your points but I respect it.
Here's my two cents. The original story was a great creepy tale, but if the community had kept that up, there would have been really nothing to build off. Now I'm not crazy about getting an origin or anything, but as a long time fan of the SCP foundation, I can accept multiple different canons of the backrooms. In the current age I can tell there are 3 main version, the original, the wiki, and the kane pixels version. Each has ups and down. Original has that best condensed, "What you can't see" kinda horror. The wiki has more eliaberate and strange form of horror made as a collaboration of multiple different writers that we should be encouraging rather than discouraging. The kane pixels version feels like an inbetween point between the two, but more focused on a central story.
With Kane, it’s in the right hands but former backrooms was good to. But you see cringe e girls destroy the community and make it a living hell. 💀💀💀💀
This is why you gatekeep and make sure not everything is canon. or you will have hacks like kane pixels walk in use everything is cannon stuff so they can take over and change stuff.
I know it's been a year but I'll say this that Heavenly seemed to miss understand, probably cause of his anger blinding him a bit, you still get hungry and thirsty juts there is stuff in the back rooms, like almond water to drink and food just findable around the place but I'm preety sure in lvl 0 (he original backrooms) doesn't have that stuff so if you can't find your way to another level, ya doomed. Also, don't use the backrooms fanwiki, that's where the more ... memey stuff is, there is a much better backrooms website that's more well regulated. Thankfully the bezzo's are some of the ones not in the official site as it's called. Also, never use tiktok as an example for when referencing something NEVER
Honestly I am kind of glad I never followed the backrooms concept until now. Tiktok is the worst thing to ever happen to creepypastas. Overexplaining every fucking thing
It sucks so much, especially when they add in absolutely clashing ideas.
The trigger warnings also piss me off. It's a fucking creepypasta. It's SUPPOSED to scare the shit out of you.
i feel like tiktok is the scapegoat of everything nowadays
The only way one could argue for the other levels, in my opinion, is that maybe the government in all their finite wisdom found a way to harness a way into the back rooms. Maybe like star gate their way in and soon as they started exploring they’d try to make housing or shops into it but failed as whatever was in there didn’t like it.
But then again I’d keep it to only one expanding level where you just stumble into an area where you find the failed housing or failed stores that where attempted to build around the backroom’s geometry and giving off a ‘ruins’ type of vibe.
We have a generation of people who have played FNAF and think "Oooo something creepy is going to jump out and scare us." and attribute a sudden surprise as horror. They don't know what real horror is, they want a quick scare. They could not understand what a slow burn horror is. Its like the quick slasher movie craze but with incredibly low standards.
I am here for Kahbaal's silly lil dum dum clown laugh, I love it so much lmao
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't find empty buildings scary.
Just saw the Sagan Hawkes video on the first 100 levels and...I stopped paying attention to the Backrooms around a month after Kane Pixels uploaded his interpretation, I honestly didn't know it got this horrible in such a short amount of time. With no regulation on what the original story was, all semblance of horror was instantly ripped out.
I felt like the Confused Mr. Krabs meme when some of the details of the backrooms were mentioned. From what I remember the squelching hallways that we watched throughout the video was originally Level 1(the only one), then became Level 0(basically the tutorial zone to the insanity). Now it's Level 2 and Levels 0-1 don't exist? The fandom for the backrooms has definitely gone out of control.
My understanding of the definition of Liminal Space is "an area that you aren't meant to focus on or spend too much time in, because the whole point behind it is to connect you from Point A to Point B." You don't normally think about the long empty hallway lit by fluorescent bulbs, because it's usually filled with students walking to their next class, and you are one of them. What makes liminal space photos so great is that they take that hallway, strip it of any recognizable landmarks or livelihood, and you're left with a transitional space that connects to nowhere. You HAVE to focus on the hallway because there is nothing else in the image. And then you notice how lifeless and artificial the hallway is, and how odd the architecture appears to be, and oh gods why is there nobody here, where is everybody?
Here's my crazy thought though - I don't think a liminal space strictly needs to be a connection between to points in space. It could also refer to an area stuck between two points *in time*. Let me provide an example to explain: Some time ago, my parents had our basement remodelled. When the construction was done, I set up my computer in the corner of the room, and I realized how... empty and unusual the place was. Certain sections of the basement had a higher or lower ceiling, there was a half-wall that divided the area (we were planning to put a couch in that area so you wouldn't have been able to walk through regardless), the support beams covered in plaster made the wall look like it had cube-ish extrusions for no discernible reason, I couldn't see anything outside the windows except for grey sky and whoever was walking through the front yard... it was unsettling, especially when I was alone, and I could hear my voice echo. Eventually, we set up a home exercise gym down there, plus a shelf where we stored all of our movies, and all of the sudden the area felt more comfortable to be in.
And before anyone says, "oh, you just don't like unfinished rooms," you are wrong. I have stood in the middle of a different in-progress basement where I could see the insulation and the flooring was still concrete, and I felt far more at-home than I did in the freshly-remodelled basement. I think it has something to do with the transparency of the situation. If you can see the insulation and the power tools lying about, you can infer, "This room has nothing to hide. It is clearly unfinished, I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's done." Once everything's covered up and the tools are gone, however, suddenly you feel alone, and the room no longer feels as unashamed about itself as it once did. It _looks_ empty, but until you set up the couch and the TV and the coffee table, it feels _wrong_ somehow.
With the rise in popularity over the Backrooms, Liminal space was launched into internet pop culture. But in the process, people who were exposed to the concept for the first time misinterpreted what liminal space is, using the term to refer to almost any photos of unusual and/or abandoned architecture. And yes, abandoned/decaying water parks and movie theatres are still cool and unsettling to look at, but it doesn't have quite the same vibe.
Alongside that, people missed the point of the Backrooms, and started coming up with monsters and lore that inadvertently made the entire concept less scary. Here's what I think the problem is - Existential horror is a niche kind of horror that kids and teenagers usually aren't exposed to until they're older. Because of this, they don't have any frame of reference to understand why the Backrooms work, and that it doesn't need a monster. That, and also the internet is a cesspool of people that are starved for attention but don't know how to make good content.
Heh, this rant kind of reminds me of a quote I once heard, I think it partially explains the wonder of existential horror:
_“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”_ - Arthur C. Clarke.
Anyways, thanks for reading my wall of text. Here's a cookie.🍪 Have a good day. :)
14:40 I have to disagree with Heavenly there.
First of all, his definition of a non-euclidean space is incorrect, non-euclidean means it does not follow the geometric principles of euclid, which the backrooms to my knowledge actually do (mostly I think).
Secondly, the entire catalyst for the backrooms is a picture of a real, existing liminal space; An empty hotel/office space is just as much from our own world as an empty mall or parking garage.
Personally I dislike the idea of cleanly segmented, categorizable "levels", but I like the Idea of the enviroment gradually transitioning into different kinds of derelict interior architecture, akin to different biomes, as this limited form of varitey gives a better scope of the incomprehensible vastness of the space.
BASED. The backrooms were the best when they were just a creepy photo.
Honestly, if you wanna make levels of the backrooms, I feel like they should be of like... The same concept as the original.
Like, the suburbs one feels like it fits in with the original concept of being in a non-euclidean suburban neighborhood that twists and turns and splits and goes on forever and it all looks the same with the fear being trapped in this place that's familiar and fake at the same time. The same thing with a non-euclidean endless mall and a non-euclidean endless school and a non-euclidean endless hospital. No monsters or jumpscares. Just these places that look familiar but goes on forever and doesn't make sense with no sign of life.
If you wanna add something to enhance the horror, I'd say do what Kabhaal suggested and just put a visual phenomena that amps up the paranoia by having it show up in the corner of your eye. A random passing shadow in the backrooms. A light randomly flickering on in one of the windows of the suburbs. A single janitor cart that keeps showing up in random areas in the mall. Etc.
Just in response yes I definitely have walked down empty hallways in school, hospitals, hotels and YES I was uneasy the WHOLE time.
I think Kane pixels have kinda been one of the reasons case so many videos on the back rooms and the about the Kane pixel lore not the official lore
There is no official lore.
@@AverageUsernames true
We know pixels has says it's his take on em. People taking his ver as the original or starting point are wrong no? There should be quality control like scp foundation
I don't mean any hate, I have massive respect for the guys, but I'll be honest, The Backrooms was nice, simple, and great right up until the point that Markiplier and JackSepticEye fucking touched it! Every time they touch a decent one-off horror concept it blows the fuck up until it fucking collapses in on itself. Their fanbases are incapable of not ruining everything they interact with. It happened to Slender, to FNAF (although this one was helped along by a creator who had visions far grander than the property he created), then to Sirenhead, and now The Backrooms, once the hype dies down a bit, those two are gonna find another idea best left as a one-off and it's gonna swell like an infected cyst.
Infinite levels of strange and almost real spaces is fine, having almost real things live in those spaces is also fine, being corrupted by those spaces is fine.
Those things don't explain the backrooms, they add to it. I definitely prefer the first ten levels but even then some of the levels are kinda meh. But here's the main reason I want to mention.
What happened was a new formula was discovered, and people wanted to be the 05 counsel of the backrooms. There was a gold rush to be the premier lore keepers of the backrooms and it bloated the setting into something that COULD support an 05 counsel equivalent, the backroom groups like MEG. Where now there's an order to what was supposed to be a disorderly place. Where SCP brings horror in trying to explain the unexplainable, the backrooms should've stayed as the place where YOU are the alien. But it didn't.
That in my opinion is where the backrooms went wrong, not the increasing levels, not the monsters, the spirit of what the backrooms are supposed to be is sullied by the lore keepers who wanted to write SCP but were denied for one reason or another.
But I think that's where we can still fix the backrooms, SCP was always what it was, a set of monsters written in a wiki in a structured manner curated by a select few people. The backrooms aren't, we don't actually need to listen to the lore keepers, since this is the modern day folklore. Beowolf can kill the witch in the lake or her house depending on who you ask, and I think we should treat these lores the same.
Backroom is my nightmare, the thought of being in humongous closed space with no possible exit...urgh. I'd rather face Resident Evil universe if I get Isekai.😫
I'm gonna be real here, I honestly never understood the whole "(Insert thing you like) is popular now and people aren't enjoying it the specific way I do! They RUINED it!!!" argument. Nobody has "ruined" the backrooms, not Kane, not Matpat, and not anyone else. Seriously, all they've done is make things for a concept that they like and apparently that makes them a bunch of worthless tourists that aren't allowed to enjoy the backrooms? I just don't get it.
It's unregulated, and it doesn't belong to any one person or group. What this means is that the idea will be exploited for money and fame. Imagine if Dantes Inferno was written by the entire population of Florence. It would be unrecognizable, and very unlikely to stand the rest of time. Because the more voices you put into a creative concept, the more diminishing returns there are. This is why movies with more than two writers are usually terrible. Too many conflicting ideas, and the ideas that stay are the ones that will garner the most attention.
So the backrooms themselves: the entities overtook the original concept of isolation and dread. This makes sense if you're making videos because who wants to see nothing but empty yellow rooms? More people are drawn to physical horror than psychological.
But if no one contributed to the backrooms I think that that 4chan post would have stood the test of time. Now it's a trend that will die and be forgotten about.
At least what happened to the backrooms did not happen to SCP where fanfic writers kicked out the original ones and oversaturated it with unnecessary content. The fact that this can happen not only online but in the world of publishing should terrify writers. Though this practice has been around for a while. SCP and the Backrooms are internet examples of this.
Sorry for the long post, I didn't know which angle to tackle your question from.
I guess what I'm trying to say is why make these rant videos where all they do is just dump all over people who enjoy the backrooms with levels, entities, and whatever else or get into these big keyboard fights where they just hurl insults, ignore anything they have to say, and then go on about how the original 4chan post was the best thing since Symphogear. Why not just do the mature thing and agree to disagree and let them enjoy it with entities and levels while you enjoy it with isolation and dread.
Sorry if my other post sounds like I'm venting, I just like the backrooms with all the things in it and I just want to enjoy it and share the things I enjoy about it.
Why give Kane so much shit. Seems unwarranted. His videos while differing from the original lore is still good, the story is genuinely intriguing. And it has its own wins that differ from the original. The hundreds of level thing is dumb but kanes doing good work. And anyway he can make whatever the hell he likes no one owns the Backrooms
He can be criticized, like all bad writing should, and just because you can dosent mean you should, that's why the lore is a cesspit.
Nobody is above criticism, nobody is nor should be considered immune to critical analysis regardless of intentions
The "fandom" is dogshit. And it's writing atrocious, even it's best would be mediocre and that's being generous.
Now Cope
@@alexmag342 I never said they can’t ba critiqued. It just seems these two are just needlessly insulting him and giving no actual reason for why it’s bad. Just because it differs slightly to what the original backrooms was. Seems pretty petty.
To me, Kane Pixels is the best.
It's not overly convoluted like the way the other backrooms lore has become, with the multiple BS levels, entities, and rules. But, it still has that dread of something chasing you, that the original sorely lacked. Reminds me of Doom level with no enemies. Sure the background is creepy, but whats the fear? Lonliness? Just doesn't do it for me
@@alexmag342 "now cope" you're an actual child, grow up.
okay i was not expecting to see heavenly here i think i have been flashbanged from watching russianbadger
The internet: BUT WHAT IF it had monster???
There are My Little Pony fanfics in the Wierd Fiction genera (what SCP is) which are more coherent, logical, and scarry than the modern Backrooms. And I'm not talking about any of the good fanfics. I mean the ones written by little kids who want to tell their own pony story.
i personally like modern backrooms but thats just my opinion
14:44 and that's why levels like 1,2,3 or the poolrooms work and why ones that just are infinite houses with magic stuff do not
btw the 2nd case Is most of the wikis
Ruined is a strong way of putting it
When Heavenly quotes FNAF:Pizza simulator
There's a whole bunch of Backrooms content farming going on, and if you saw those first or know about them beforehand, I bet you would also be wary of KP videos. I'm pretty sure even KP had made his videos separate from the original canon to avoid the problems what Heavenly described.
while arguably more expensive short term, stabilizing a rift in reality via expanding micro-black holes would be more sustainable and less of a fuel drain on the economy than tossing things into the sun
Yeah Heavenly, we totally haven't seen hotel maintenance halls before, totally "outside of this reality." I get what he's trying to say, but to try to argue it from a place of non-familiarity is not the right way to do it, since the first story is based on something known & extrapolating it out infinitely
darn it, actually got jump scared at the end, i'm getting rusty,
I kinda wonder what Heavenly thinks of SCP
Reminds me of the Holders series that went defunct way back.
The monsters and various areas kinda killed it, mainly the monsters honestly and it became bland
The original concept is honestly like 10x better because of how simple it is with no extra crap. Hell I remember watching a gameplay of, I think, a puppet combo game where your character meets other people and eventually goes insane because of the area and I thought that was cool af
It's all Mario 64 no A Button Challenge players that created the technology to travel between dimensions.
The one thing i absolutely hate about the backrooms which is probably a weirdly hyperfixated hate is ALMOND WATER WHY THE HELL IS THAT THE GO TO SOURCE OF WATER AND WHY DOES IT REGAIN SANITY I DONT UNDERSTAND
I'm not a big fan of this analysis. Heavenly gets important aspects of the Kane Pixels story and definitions wrong. It just comes off as very old man yells at cloud
I miss the older days of Mr. Ferrante and Mr. Backrooms.. what's happened for it to end up this way?
I think i watched Manlybadasshero play backrooms when it first came out, or if it was just a demo, i found the game back than to be a very cool concept
Tbh some of them are decently scary concepts, it may not be horror anymore but its still interesting in my opinion ( pool rooms i would say is scary )
I don't understand why this game freaks people out. I've done work in places like this ON THE REGULAR! You humans are scared of the oddest things I swear. I love Heavenlyfather's annoyance at this place! Place is ok as long as you can find the cafe (ran by a sweet old man and his wife) and just don't mess with the day porter 🍵🐲 (always told by boss to bill heavy since getting back to van can take a bit)
I mean, if you just clipped through reality and ended up here, for days, weeks, months, I'd think you'd lose your mind
@@econnak7909 NEVER SAID I DIDN'T LOSE MINE! 🤣
kids learned the word "partygoers" and never shut up afterwards
the backrooms is perfect for a blumhouse horror movie lol
No its it will probably never work thats the entire point of this video that the backrooms is a psychological horror building off of paranoia and not showing or telling you if theirs a monster or not making never truly safe loosing your mind for being isolation never speaking to anyone you might hear something such as foot steps but its never certain if thats real or the side effect of a broken paranoid mind thats the original backrooms an actual good concept
Not a spooky tall black skeleton man chasing you while playing a shitty ass soundtrack what would even be the ending to the movie to the original concept the backrooms is endless so the protagonist could never escape
I spotted an error in the description. It reads: "Kabhaal whats to know" when I think you meant "Kabhaal wants to know". Just wanted to point this out ^^
I am with the people that say, that the Backrooms were creepy enough back when it was just liminal spaces and one or two levels, but I still enjoy listening to and watching videos about different "levels" or "entities". They might have completely changed what the Backrooms were supposed to be, but hey, if you just listen to some of these and see the pure creativity of the people that came up with some of them, what's so bad about it? Yes, the Backrooms *were* better back then, but is is really that bad if people want to add something and link it up with someone else's thing? The way I see this, is that these additional levels and entities are purely fanfiction. "What if" scenarios and creepy stories that people tell about the Backrooms. Like tales and folklore. What I am asking is... please accept what people did with this community, even if you're not a big fan of it yourself. After all, this is just a fun story concept! A fun, made up story about a paranormal place beyound reality. And who can control what's right or wrong beyound reality, am I right?
Nvm, changed my mind.
I respect it now.
Also there two site one of them tries to keep more of the scary factor and the other is people throwing shit at a wall
When you think about its not that its an scp bootleg more like everyone decided to get comfortable. also get this alot of backrooms wikidot authors are scp authors not to mention that their is NO OFFICIAL CANON YA KNOW LIKE SCP WHICH ALSO OCCASIONALLY STEAL FROM ITSELF YOU CAN GO BACK NO ONE IS HOLDING YOU'RE SHOULDER
the sad part is this can go both ways
16:47 bold of him to assume backrooms fans have
Kabhaal, you remind me of an Orichalcos soldier! Did you once work for Dartz?😅
I mean, The End-game Creator of the Backrooms itself hates humanity as a whole and wishes to kill them but God/Creator sealed said Backrooms Creator from ever escaping.
I hate how revisionist history Heavenly is being here. He speaks as someone who just wanted to complain that something got popular, and so decided to blame Kane for everything “wrong” that started happening with the Backrooms as a concept-NO, Kane didn’t invent the concept of levels; NO, Kane is not the cause of the “game-ifying” of the Backrooms. All of that happened LONG before Kane came along. If anything, Kane brought the Backrooms back to a simpler time.
Stop lying because you’re mad that someone younger than you became arguably more successful than you.
Bruh they just turned backrooms to the next fnaf replacement wth
... Well at least heavenly hasn't seen the lewds, that's something at least...