i've been collecting these for about a year now., i have bout 100 batteries. i have lots of 550mAh, A ton of 650mAh and loads of 1500 mAh, i've made my own 18v battery using 3x1500mAh making 4500mAh per cell. then x5, i use it on my old 80s boombox, it takes 10 dcell batteries, but i checked the voltage from the transformer to the main board and it read 20v, so 18v doesn't harm it, for charging the batteries i did use a laptop charger and it worked but i've since realised it can harm the cells so i've linked 5 usb boards to each cell to be safe and to make sure they live a happy prolonged life :-) i hate that people are throwing them away, i know i've collected a lot, but that must be tiny fraction of the ones that are not saved.
It is hard to walk past them, when they are laying in the street, especially when you can equate them to £1 coins 😁🥇🪙I probably have more than I will ever use, and I still pick them up when I see them, although I do ignore the ones that have been squashed flat 🤣
@@thatyoutubeguy7583 The Little Charger Boards i use are TP4056, they are kind of like a BMS-ish, i mean when they get low i just plug the usb cable in, a red led lights up, and when they are charged it changes to blue, and as for actually using them raw without a BMS, its not that bad, they don't get hot while in use because the boombox isn't very greedy, batteries will mainly get hot when they are driven hard, if they were used with something like a drill, that might get them toasty, but my boombox was made in around 1983, the batteries that were out then were very low mAh, so these home made ones run it easily. as for finding them, i don't see them anymore, i see maybe 1 a fortnight, i think supermarkets and shops have started placing bins there for people to dispose of them properly.
My boombox uses 12V (actually has a D cell battery compartment) and I just made 3S battery with ballancing BMS ... For charging, I actually use the rectified voltage from the transformer built inside the boombox.. ..works like a charm for 5 years already .
Very informative and good usage of what other people throw away. I’ve been collecting these cells for a while now and haven’t decided what I’m going to do with them yet.
When connecting lithium-ion cells in parallel, it's crucial to check their internal resistance beforehand. Cells with mismatched internal resistances can discharge unevenly, requiring more frequent balancing and potentially leading to reduced cell health over time. This imbalance can increase the risk of common li-ion cell issues, such as overheating and degradation. While issues can still arise after assembly, ensuring that cells are well-matched from the start can help minimize potential problems. By taking this precaution, you can help extend the lifespan of your cells and reduce the risk of complications down the line.
All good advice. Incidently I did this video back in 2022 - hence the date in the title. I have had zero problems, and I have far more of these vape batteries than I will ever use. Having saved them, I will probably end up having to dispose of them anyway.
Been collecting them for a few weeks. Have over a hundred, but that's mainly because i found a bag the other day with about 95 of them in it. Mainly 550mAh, but some 850mAh and one 1500mAh. A couple even with a USB port
Lol ❤ i been doin same for few years 😂😂 making alsorts Use the vape body and a drone motor to make a cutting tool with Dremel disc 😁 😂 and good for green lasers too 😊😂❤ Just use 1 charger pcb and make connection to all the projects 😅😊
Over-discharged cells with less than 2 volts will often not take current from a charging module, since the charger detects that no current is being taken, so they shut down, and go into standby. However, in parallel with a healthy charging cell, they often start to polarize and then take a current and will charge fully.
they are free batteries so any use is a plus.. maybe set up a small solar and or wind charging unit and use them like power banks for lights and such.. the led light Im using right now is running on a 10000mah power bank I charge in BB.. the fan I used the other night was also on a power bank I charged off my large power bank which was charged using solar
Yes, you would need to parallel them up to get a reasonable capacity, but it could be done, as you say, they are free, so I could put dozens of them together 😆
@@GrandadsOtherChannel yeah, I am aware of the risks of having li-ions around 🙏🙏 thinking about building a metal case with mineral wool insulation - in case of fire, so that it can contain it somehow safely.. but I hope there will not be a test situation happening ever 😅😅
Yes, it would be good to make use of the other components. One suggestion was to use the heater element and vapouriser for a model train steam or model car exhaust. I do remember seeing a video on the car exhaust idea. Bigclivedotcom looked at the electronics with his usual reverse engineer detail.
Im confused if he connected the batteries in parallel how did the voltage increase. I thought voltage only increased when wiring in a series but it went from 1.5v to 3.2 . Did I Miss something? Someone please help me understand.
Vape batteries are Lithium Polymer with a standing voltage of around 3.7 volts. They are 4.3 volts fully charged and if they drop below 3 volts they are often NOT recoverable. That charger module will charge them at a rate of 4.2 volts and it includes a protection circuit to prevent them being discharged below about 3.2 volts.
Yes, you are right, if you put two batteries in parallel the voltage is the average of them. So two 3.7 volt batteries in parallel will give you 3.7 volts, but double the capacity in Amps. So two 650mAh batteries in parallel will give you 1300mAh.
Hello, have you had in hand these new electronic cigarettes large capacity (Puff Tornado RandM 9000 puffs of 18ml for example), they have a system of LEDs RGB more imposing and I have the impression that there is a micro controller for lighting LEDs RGB and I would like to know if according to you it is possible to reprogram these LEDs with Arduino software, what do you think and how to do to reprogram them according to you?
it's sad people are chucking those out right on the street. Any place that sells them should have signs and collection points for the old ones, they'd still just chuck it out tho lol.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel vapes themselves maybe not so common but vape packaging makes up probably 40-50% of the litter i see now - ive just picked up some more 1500mah vapes, going to 3d print some inserts to stack 2 batteries in the tube and connect 2 tubes side by side with a charging board in the middle, should make a pretty rugged powerbank
Yes, there certainly are plenty of empty packages, although I did go out one day specifically to collect some packages because I wanted to check the information they contained and typically on that day, I struggled to find any. I ended up with only a couple of packs after a good walk. Vape Hunter 20230129 not all litter are vapes!! ruclips.net/video/oqij-7UWfTM/видео.html
@Alberto Speed normal electronics applies. Batteries in parallel the capacity is added, voltage divides. Batteries in series, capacity divides, voltage adds. So two 4v 500mAh Batteries in parallel gives 4v 1000mAh. Two 4v 500mAh batteries in series give 8v 500mAh.
You will find my videos always have extra information in the video description. I bought them from eBay. I suggest you could search for "TP4056 Lithium Battery Charger Module Charging Board" 10Pcs USB 5V 1A 18650 TP4056 Lithium Battery Charger Module Charging Board - cost me £5.48 a couple of years ago This is probably the best video I did on this subject of TP4056 modules, with plenty of information in the video description ruclips.net/video/j9-Efa1WqUc/видео.html You may find this video interesting - Small power bank from Vape batteries ruclips.net/video/rG7qLbuWvK8/видео.html
The trouble with asking for advice from "a guy on RUclips" is you never know if they are right or wrong. And the problem with answering people's queries is I never know what level of understanding you have. For example, do you intend to put the "2pcs" in series or parallel? What is their current rating? What type of batteries are they? How do you intend to power the circuit? That is why I suggest it is better to read the specification. The TP4056 is just the chip, so the specification will vary depending on what circuit board the chip is fitted to. Some boards include overcharge protection and over-discharge protection. Most boards default to a 1A charge rate. Some boards require a resistor to be changed to match the charging current required. Some boards have adjustable potentiometers. The list goes on 😁@@AliAhmed-ls2uo
@@GrandadsOtherChannel you are right but i know about tp 4056 module but i every time see people connect 2 lithium ion battery but i not have lithium ion battery i have vape batterys lithium lipo and i see your video you connect 2 lithium lipo batterys that why i say you but thank you so much and thank you for giving time 🩵😊
You are right, but can you measure the difference? As you can see, this works fine. If you were planning to use them in series rather than parallel, then you really do need to include balance leads for the individual cells. In parallel, they balance themselves. When we are just looking at small capacity cells like this all nominally the same value, we are not talking large currents, but if you are interested in charging much larger packs in parallel, you might like to read this article oscarliang.com/parallel-charging-multiple-lipo/
This batteries are very good. They are Free, curent îs good and The batery ca-n be keep very long without danger to loose capacity if IT îs not used. AT maximum charge IT has 4.2 V. The problem îs that you must not discharge under 3.0 V. The vapes have a smd LED în The black plastic part which ca-n be re used.
Just ask the questions and find out. I am no expert, you will find related links in my video description. My Vape Hunter playlist includes my videos on the subject, plus many of bigclivedotcom's videos as he has the electrical knowledge to back up what he does.
Parallel charging is fine but the batteries voltage should be within 1/10th oa a volt before you connect them together so say between 3 4v - 3.5v ect because the lowest battery will drain power from the highest battery after they've been connected together you should be fine charging and discharging
You are right, but can you measure the difference? As you can see, this works fine. If you were planning to use them in series rather than parallel, then you really do need to include balance leads for the individual cells. In parallel, they balance themselves. When we are just looking at small capacity cells like this all nominally the same value, we are not talking large currents, but if you are interested in charging much larger packs in parallel, you might like to read this article oscarliang.com/parallel-charging-multiple-lipo/
@@GrandadsOtherChannel I meant no disrespect it is awesome to see people putting these things to use as I do finding so many on the street. I fly rc Drones and planes and do build a few battery packs I mainly meant my comment for any newbies trying the same and Oscar liang does make the same statement regarding voltage matching but yes of course with these little 500mah batteries it would most likely be OK but if one was drastically lower then the others you could at the very least damage the pack you are trying to make. So for anyone trying this I do believe a healthy lithium battery voltage is between 3v and 4.2v and I personally would discard a 2v battery as tested using a multimeter. Once again I apologise I enjoyed the video and am currently building a pack for a 5v led strip in the wardrobe I even have those same charging modules. Great video and I genuinely mean no disrespect
I am just sharing what I do, so other people can learn from my mistakes 😁 You will always find more information and useful links in my video descriptions.
i've been collecting these for about a year now., i have bout 100 batteries. i have lots of 550mAh, A ton of 650mAh and loads of 1500 mAh, i've made my own 18v battery using 3x1500mAh making 4500mAh per cell. then x5, i use it on my old 80s boombox, it takes 10 dcell batteries, but i checked the voltage from the transformer to the main board and it read 20v, so 18v doesn't harm it, for charging the batteries i did use a laptop charger and it worked but i've since realised it can harm the cells so i've linked 5 usb boards to each cell to be safe and to make sure they live a happy prolonged life :-) i hate that people are throwing them away, i know i've collected a lot, but that must be tiny fraction of the ones that are not saved.
It is hard to walk past them, when they are laying in the street, especially when you can equate them to £1 coins 😁🥇🪙I probably have more than I will ever use, and I still pick them up when I see them, although I do ignore the ones that have been squashed flat 🤣
Pray to god you used a bms or 💣🎇🔥. But I wished I found them. I never seem to find any
@@thatyoutubeguy7583 The Little Charger Boards i use are TP4056, they are kind of like a BMS-ish, i mean when they get low i just plug the usb cable in, a red led lights up, and when they are charged it changes to blue, and as for actually using them raw without a BMS, its not that bad, they don't get hot while in use because the boombox isn't very greedy, batteries will mainly get hot when they are driven hard, if they were used with something like a drill, that might get them toasty, but my boombox was made in around 1983, the batteries that were out then were very low mAh, so these home made ones run it easily. as for finding them, i don't see them anymore, i see maybe 1 a fortnight, i think supermarkets and shops have started placing bins there for people to dispose of them properly.
Sooo I'm not alone using salvaged li-ion cells in his 80's boombox 🤣 heey bro...haha
My boombox uses 12V (actually has a D cell battery compartment) and I just made 3S battery with ballancing BMS ... For charging, I actually use the rectified voltage from the transformer built inside the boombox.. ..works like a charm for 5 years already .
Very informative and good usage of what other people throw away. I’ve been collecting these cells for a while now and haven’t decided what I’m going to do with them yet.
In the video description, there are some related playlists of my videos.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel thanks I’ll take a look.
Same 😂
When connecting lithium-ion cells in parallel, it's crucial to check their internal resistance beforehand. Cells with mismatched internal resistances can discharge unevenly, requiring more frequent balancing and potentially leading to reduced cell health over time. This imbalance can increase the risk of common li-ion cell issues, such as overheating and degradation. While issues can still arise after assembly, ensuring that cells are well-matched from the start can help minimize potential problems. By taking this precaution, you can help extend the lifespan of your cells and reduce the risk of complications down the line.
All good advice. Incidently I did this video back in 2022 - hence the date in the title. I have had zero problems, and I have far more of these vape batteries than I will ever use. Having saved them, I will probably end up having to dispose of them anyway.
Been collecting them for a few weeks. Have over a hundred, but that's mainly because i found a bag the other day with about 95 of them in it. Mainly 550mAh, but some 850mAh and one 1500mAh. A couple even with a USB port
I suggest also seeing, "Can you reuse these batteries?" by Becky Stern. She has some great safety tips...
Lol ❤ i been doin same for few years 😂😂 making alsorts
Use the vape body and a drone motor to make a cutting tool with Dremel disc 😁 😂 and good for green lasers too 😊😂❤
Just use 1 charger pcb and make connection to all the projects 😅😊
Put a diode in line with the output from your pack to drop the voltage, 1n4001 and add a 1k pot from r3 to ground to adjust the charge.
Over-discharged cells with less than 2 volts will often not take current from a charging module, since the charger detects that no current is being taken, so they shut down, and go into standby. However, in parallel with a healthy charging cell, they often start to polarize and then take a current and will charge fully.
I just tell the charger that the cell is a NiMh or even Lead, and trickle charge them until they are over the threshold.
I was picking up trash today, and found one of these Vape pens in my yard. ONLY time I was HAPPY to pick up after people.
they are free batteries so any use is a plus.. maybe set up a small solar and or wind charging unit and use them like power banks for lights and such.. the led light Im using right now is running on a 10000mah power bank I charge in BB.. the fan I used the other night was also on a power bank I charged off my large power bank which was charged using solar
Yes, you would need to parallel them up to get a reasonable capacity, but it could be done, as you say, they are free, so I could put dozens of them together 😆
@@GrandadsOtherChannel good mornin
I've been ollecting these for couple of months.... Got over 1200 cells sorted by capacity in my drawer waiting to be used in some nice projects 😁😁 .
Just remember they are a fire hazard and throwing water on them does not put the fire out 👍🏻 The more you have, the bigger the fire.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel yeah, I am aware of the risks of having li-ions around 🙏🙏 thinking about building a metal case with mineral wool insulation - in case of fire, so that it can contain it somehow safely.. but I hope there will not be a test situation happening ever 😅😅
Trying to figure out ideas to use the draw switches for and the electronics besides the battery.
Yes, it would be good to make use of the other components. One suggestion was to use the heater element and vapouriser for a model train steam or model car exhaust. I do remember seeing a video on the car exhaust idea. Bigclivedotcom looked at the electronics with his usual reverse engineer detail.
Nice Tutorial. Going to use some for Xmas lights. THANKS👍👍
Just remember that the LiPo batteries can burst into flames if they are abused, over charged, damaged etc 👍🏻
Im confused if he connected the batteries in parallel how did the voltage increase. I thought voltage only increased when wiring in a series but it went from 1.5v to 3.2 . Did I Miss something? Someone please help me understand.
Vape batteries are Lithium Polymer with a standing voltage of around 3.7 volts. They are 4.3 volts fully charged and if they drop below 3 volts they are often NOT recoverable. That charger module will charge them at a rate of 4.2 volts and it includes a protection circuit to prevent them being discharged below about 3.2 volts.
Yes, you are right, if you put two batteries in parallel the voltage is the average of them. So two 3.7 volt batteries in parallel will give you 3.7 volts, but double the capacity in Amps. So two 650mAh batteries in parallel will give you 1300mAh.
Voltage difference in the 3 cells as they came from separate devices.
Once plugged onto each other they attempt to balance out.
@@CrackedGh0st yes, they will balance themselves. Is there a point to your comment?
Hello, have you had in hand these new electronic cigarettes large capacity (Puff Tornado RandM 9000 puffs of 18ml for example), they have a system of LEDs RGB more imposing and I have the impression that there is a micro controller for lighting LEDs RGB and I would like to know if according to you it is possible to reprogram these LEDs with Arduino software, what do you think and how to do to reprogram them according to you?
I don't think I have seen any like that so I can't make any suggestions, sorry.
@GrandadsOtherChannel it's no big deal, thanks for taking the time to reply😉
it's sad people are chucking those out right on the street. Any place that sells them should have signs and collection points for the old ones, they'd still just chuck it out tho lol.
Bearing in mind that they represent a tiny proportion of the junk in the street, there are more pressing issues with people's behaviour.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel thats the main reason I dislike urban areas, litter makes me very upset.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel vapes themselves maybe not so common but vape packaging makes up probably 40-50% of the litter i see now - ive just picked up some more 1500mah vapes, going to 3d print some inserts to stack 2 batteries in the tube and connect 2 tubes side by side with a charging board in the middle, should make a pretty rugged powerbank
Yes, there certainly are plenty of empty packages, although I did go out one day specifically to collect some packages because I wanted to check the information they contained and typically on that day, I struggled to find any. I ended up with only a couple of packs after a good walk. Vape Hunter 20230129 not all litter are vapes!! ruclips.net/video/oqij-7UWfTM/видео.html
What happens if they go stacked?
I am afraid I have no idea what you mean?
@@GrandadsOtherChannel Instead of them being parallel.
@Alberto Speed normal electronics applies. Batteries in parallel the capacity is added, voltage divides. Batteries in series, capacity divides, voltage adds. So two 4v 500mAh Batteries in parallel gives 4v 1000mAh. Two 4v 500mAh batteries in series give 8v 500mAh.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel ok, thank you.
Do you have a link where you bought the little blue motherboard looking thing?
You will find my videos always have extra information in the video description.
I bought them from eBay. I suggest you could search for "TP4056 Lithium Battery Charger Module Charging Board"
10Pcs USB 5V 1A 18650 TP4056 Lithium Battery Charger Module Charging Board - cost me £5.48 a couple of years ago
This is probably the best video I did on this subject of TP4056 modules, with plenty of information in the video description ruclips.net/video/j9-Efa1WqUc/видео.html
You may find this video interesting - Small power bank from Vape batteries ruclips.net/video/rG7qLbuWvK8/видео.html
Can tp4056 charge 2pcs battery its safe
I would suggest you read the specs for the tp4506 board, then work it out.
@@GrandadsOtherChannel thank you 😊
The trouble with asking for advice from "a guy on RUclips" is you never know if they are right or wrong. And the problem with answering people's queries is I never know what level of understanding you have. For example, do you intend to put the "2pcs" in series or parallel? What is their current rating? What type of batteries are they? How do you intend to power the circuit? That is why I suggest it is better to read the specification. The TP4056 is just the chip, so the specification will vary depending on what circuit board the chip is fitted to. Some boards include overcharge protection and over-discharge protection. Most boards default to a 1A charge rate. Some boards require a resistor to be changed to match the charging current required. Some boards have adjustable potentiometers. The list goes on 😁@@AliAhmed-ls2uo
@@GrandadsOtherChannel you are right but i know about tp 4056 module but i every time see people connect 2 lithium ion battery but i not have lithium ion battery i have vape batterys lithium lipo and i see your video you connect 2 lithium lipo batterys that why i say you but thank you so much and thank you for giving time 🩵😊
It is better to charge each cell individually before connecting them in paralel. Your charger is not able too see voltage in each cell.
You are right, but can you measure the difference? As you can see, this works fine. If you were planning to use them in series rather than parallel, then you really do need to include balance leads for the individual cells. In parallel, they balance themselves. When we are just looking at small capacity cells like this all nominally the same value, we are not talking large currents, but if you are interested in charging much larger packs in parallel, you might like to read this article oscarliang.com/parallel-charging-multiple-lipo/
This batteries are very good. They are Free, curent îs good and The batery ca-n be keep very long without danger to loose capacity if IT îs not used. AT maximum charge IT has 4.2 V. The problem îs that you must not discharge under 3.0 V. The vapes have a smd LED în The black plastic part which ca-n be re used.
Banned totally just about in Australia now $34 AUD when new , I have 3 , dont see them lying around much anymore just as well.
I see far fewer lying around, but I already have more in store than I will ever use.
I’m working on a project using old vaps whud love to ask u some questions I you whud help me with some information
Just ask the questions and find out. I am no expert, you will find related links in my video description. My Vape Hunter playlist includes my videos on the subject, plus many of bigclivedotcom's videos as he has the electrical knowledge to back up what he does.
Parallel charging is fine but the batteries voltage should be within 1/10th oa a volt before you connect them together so say between 3 4v - 3.5v ect because the lowest battery will drain power from the highest battery after they've been connected together you should be fine charging and discharging
You are right, but can you measure the difference? As you can see, this works fine. If you were planning to use them in series rather than parallel, then you really do need to include balance leads for the individual cells. In parallel, they balance themselves. When we are just looking at small capacity cells like this all nominally the same value, we are not talking large currents, but if you are interested in charging much larger packs in parallel, you might like to read this article oscarliang.com/parallel-charging-multiple-lipo/
@@GrandadsOtherChannel I meant no disrespect it is awesome to see people putting these things to use as I do finding so many on the street. I fly rc Drones and planes and do build a few battery packs I mainly meant my comment for any newbies trying the same and Oscar liang does make the same statement regarding voltage matching but yes of course with these little 500mah batteries it would most likely be OK but if one was drastically lower then the others you could at the very least damage the pack you are trying to make. So for anyone trying this I do believe a healthy lithium battery voltage is between 3v and 4.2v and I personally would discard a 2v battery as tested using a multimeter. Once again I apologise I enjoyed the video and am currently building a pack for a 5v led strip in the wardrobe I even have those same charging modules. Great video and I genuinely mean no disrespect
@@blakey271ableThanks for the extra detail 👍
No smoke, no explosions - no good. Thumbs down 😆😛
I do manage to get flames eventually, that video is on the 8th October on this channel 😆🔥🧨🚒🧯
Aaaargh!" Why do an information video about making a battery from several LiPo cells when you dont even know what youre doing yourself.
I am just sharing what I do, so other people can learn from my mistakes 😁 You will always find more information and useful links in my video descriptions.