Hell NO! I do not play head games to win. Arnold and Weider were simply sleazy and would do anything to sell Weider products, often bribing judges with fabulous dinners at 5 star restaurants, expense paid trips, etc.
Yes!!! If serge didn't stop working out leading upto that olympia, he would've had the body to beat Arnold, just don't know if he would've beat them cuz the judges still loved Arnold
I think its even mentioned in the behind the scenes footage of Pumping Iron. Even Louis Dad wasnt involved in Louis bodybuilding career but they added him to the filming to add more excitement lol
Yes and No......... actually it was somebody who was even more deserving......... his name was Sergio Olivia, and Weider knew this guy could easily dog walk Schwarzenegger, even the man himself admitted it years later, just before his final and most controversial Olympia in 1980..........
Yeah, he played the game and won... I doubt Lou would ever say he was disabled... He was the first hulk without CGI and still looks amazing to this day, and he got his hearing back... They are both amazing men who went the way they were ment to go
@MTyler8787 You are right, but, he opened the door for so many because he wanted so much everyone knows that the sport has done so much because of who he was and you can take it or leave it!!! He loves this country and what it has done for him, and by doing that, he has become an American Icon an portrayed America to be badass and strong because of it even though he wasn't born here... So I will take that over people who are born here and hate this country!!! May God bless us all ... One love, One race under him, the human race!!!
The more you learn about the Arnold, the more you know all his wins and victories came not through hard work in the gym alone, dude is a politician through and through!
...and Rnold with the Weiders were also fixing contests and manipulating competitors then. The IFBB and it's competitions are mostly marketing campaigns for their products.
Theres probably a couple arnold won he shouldnt have...... especially when he came back in like 1980 i believe. He was no where near enough to win that show.
Arnold had Born charisma. Like non other bodybuilders today. Arnold made bodybuilding sport great. If it wasn’t for him it was still a sport for freaks.
Arnold posed like a champion. The guy becomes a movie star in both Action and Comedy. He’s elected Governor of the most powerful land mass in the world, twice. Neither Serge or Lou had a chance. Sure he played mind games, but so did Larry Bird and Michael Jordon. All champions in every major sport have ice cold will power. They too get messed with more than anyone else.
Pumping iron was something that they had in the '70s known as a docudrama. It was a documentary with a fictitious story within it. Arnold was playing the heel, well. Lou ferrigno was playing the part of the baby face.
As I’ve said - Arnold’s trolling is unmatched for decades - he told Louie “I’m no nervous at all, not at all” while shaking and pretending to be actually nervous but all as a way to make fun of how nervous Lou was. I wanna watch pumping iron again..
Disabled!!! 😂 That was super loaded. These were equal playing fields and this wasn’t the first time they competed against each other. Big Lou was no victim.
Arnold himself called Pumping Iron a “Docu-drama” behind the scenes. Lou was the biggest bodybuilder to ever step on stage at the time, but winning the Olympia isn’t just being the biggest. The story Arnold told about not going to his own father’s funeral was a story Arnold heard from a bodybuilder that was asking Arnold for advice. Arnold was shocked by the story, so he told it in the movie to present himself as willing to make any sacrifice to win! Arnold also popped off about giving his best friend in the world Franco Columbo “the wrong advices….”. Total crap, Arnold and Franco remained best friends until the day Franco unfortunately passed. R.I.P. Arnold planned on retiring from Bodybuilding, but they came to Arnold with the idea for Pumping Iron and building up this big rivalry between Arnold and Lou. Arnold agreed to compete one more year to make Pumping Iron, which created a world wide hit and gyms opening up all over the U.S.! Thank goodness for bodybuilding that Arnold agreed and they made a great movie we all enjoy watching! 💪🙌
It’s not manipulation to anger a weak minded person. And I’m not saying Lou is a WEAK person, he just allowed Arnold to make him ANGRY (insert Hulk joke here) and instead of using the anger to fuel him to beat Arnold, he just stayed pissed. Arnold was no master manipulator
Lou while being a great bodybuilder was never a true threat to Arnold. Arnold had the entire IFBB on his side from the go, he was their favourite. As well as being a great bodybuilder in his own right, he was simply bigger than most other competitors for a start
Arnold was always the most marketable. Franco was small, Lou was hearing impaired and Mentzer just sabotaged himself. Platz and Zane came around only after Arnold was established as the goat. Understandable why the Weiders were always pushing Arnold.
Some haters has no idea how hard Arnold and joe wielder tried to promote the sport,they even went to jail to promote health and fitness.Arnold was the best of his era and most conditioned guy except for 1980 olympia.Without pumping iron,bodybuilding would have been far behind than what it has become now.let legends stay as legends and you don't have to dish out for some views.Most of the legends have died,be grateful that he is still alive.Damn,everything was better in 80's and 90's in terms of bodybuilding,football,music,movies,basketball,etc.Now we have come close near to WWlll.😔🙏🙏
Psychological warfare isnt cheating its utilizing a skill. Of course the IFBB backed Arnold. He was the goose laying their proverbial "golden eggs". Magazines, training courses, equipment, supplements..all the sales skyrocketed when Arnold came on the scene. As far as the contest and it's outcome, it was nothing personal against Lou, it was business. It may be unfair and downright dishonorable from a moral point of view, but so is the world of business. Marketing 101
Lou didn’t get manipulated: He wasn’t mature enough to stand up in physique or mental toughness. alThey call it Competition for a reason. If the Arnold of 1975 went up against Lou in his prime a few years later? That would have been close.
The more I learn about the history of Mr. Arnold, the more disappointed I am in him, and I understand that he was really quite the crooked one! Upsetting actually 😪😮
Bodybuilding is suppose to be about Symmetry, Definition, Proportion, Dry , Stryation, Not politics. So no Arnold was a snake & didn't deserve to win. Arnold wanted the fame so bad he didn't care about anyone's feelings, He's a selfish self centered narcissist. You see the truth has finally come out.
😂😂😂😂 its easy to win when the judges are your friends and he really was pos person belittling people like that he deserves shit and alot of people agree with that
... but often Arnold was NOT the best on stage. Many in the industry claim Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and several others were routinely robbed by the Weider / Schwarzenegger marketing machine. Many of the judges for the various events were longtime friends of Weider who also provided under the table perks including all expense paid vacations, fine dining at 5 star restaurants, women, etc. Overall, very sleazy - Mentzer realized this early in his career and retired shortly after finally winning Mr. O with a perfect score after having been denied in what should have been winning form.
@herberthensley3691 he didn't win that last Olympia I think he knows deep down mike mentzer won the 1980 Mr olympia mike was his better that day it's only because of his politics same way he helped franco beat tom platz when Tom again looked better than his friend who had gyno sergio and mike didn't lose to him and he knows it
@@williamnewsome5169Mike Mentzer had a perfect 300 score in the Mr Universe contest in 1978 he won his weight class in the 1979 Mr Olympia but lost to Frank Zane overall
It comes out years ago, this was scripted to the make the documentary Pumping iron. It came out that they wanted to run a story line with a good and bad guy. Arnold said he would play the bad guy.
Don't let them fool you. Arnold was putting on a performance for the cameras. Arnold knew that as impressive as Lou was, he wasn't ready to be real competition against him yet, but they needed a larger than life character to drive the documentary. The producers wanted Lou to be that villain, but Arnold could see that Lou was way too much of a gentle giant. As a result, Arnold decided the He would be the villain of his own story to sell the doc. Using his emerging fame and charisma, he manipulated the filmakers into making a product that would both inform and entertain.
People hating Arnold for this why would a guy playing fucking competition will say to his rival how to win against me he also wanted to win the competition
How can Arnold say that with such confidence, tricking a disabled person is horrible. I’ve disliked Arnold ever since I found out about 1979 Mr Olympia and his fixed win against Mike mentzer.
Lou always was and always will be the better man on and off stage. Arnold knew he couldn't win fair and square he won his titles through manipulation and politics.
Arnold was McGregor and Ali of Bodybuilding,he knew how to get into people's skin and play with their head the way he liked,definitely the Pyscopath's behavior but i guess if everyone is working hard then you have to find something to your advantage.
Buddy.. you do realize pumping iron was mostly false sensationalism. And in the world of body building there is a lot of politics, Arnold was the chosen favorite at the time. Lou did deserve his shot, but the subjectiveness of bodybuilding is its own beast. Don’t make it sound like Arnold went scheming for things. He razzed guys sure, but outside of that.. it wasn’t this massive rivalry.
If Lou ferrigno wanted to be Mr. Olympia, he could have, in 76 or 77, however he got the roll of the incredible hulk on the TV show, and I'm sure that paid a lot more money.
Would YOU do the same to win❓😏
Hell NO! I do not play head games to win. Arnold and Weider were simply sleazy and would do anything to sell Weider products, often bribing judges with fabulous dinners at 5 star restaurants, expense paid trips, etc.
Well If you really really wanted to win I guess
No absolutely not taking advantage of a mentally disabled person is just wrong
Depends how much the prize money is
@@Everyday_hooliganshearing impaired, I don’t by think he was mentally impaired
Louis was never a threat. They built the rivalry for the movie. Serge was his real competition
Finally some who knows that this was just a cover for hiding the way they framed serge
Yes!!! If serge didn't stop working out leading upto that olympia, he would've had the body to beat Arnold, just don't know if he would've beat them cuz the judges still loved Arnold
I think its even mentioned in the behind the scenes footage of Pumping Iron. Even Louis Dad wasnt involved in Louis bodybuilding career but they added him to the filming to add more excitement lol
Yes and No......... actually it was somebody who was even more deserving......... his name was Sergio Olivia, and Weider knew this guy could easily dog walk Schwarzenegger, even the man himself admitted it years later, just before his final and most controversial Olympia in 1980..........
ARNOLD!!
In other news, Danny DeVito uses psychology warfare on Arnold to convince him they are twins.
Fast Company lol
......get lost together!
😂😂
Politics man they olympiaden would b mike mentzer fk arnie
Well Said my friend when I was a kid Arnold seemed so innocent in that Movie
“I will loose Arnold your the best” sounds like one of tates bots😭😂🤣😂
Lmao true
Still talking about Tate in 2024 is crazy he basically made you his btch
He wasn’t that deaf. He listened to everything Arnold brainwashed him into. 🤷🏻
When Arnold gave him the wrong advices
He lost 80% of his hearing, plus he did use a hearing aid. Plus he learned how to read lips.
He was never brainwashed by Arnold although he was cheated by him and the judges
He was a lip reader 🤪🤪
@@Lousy-Looter100% wrong 🤪🤪
Yeah, he played the game and won... I doubt Lou would ever say he was disabled... He was the first hulk without CGI and still looks amazing to this day, and he got his hearing back... They are both amazing men who went the way they were ment to go
And ig that means Arnold went towards being a Prick 😅
Arnold was a winner by medals and a loser by heart
@MTyler8787 You are right, but, he opened the door for so many because he wanted so much everyone knows that the sport has done so much because of who he was and you can take it or leave it!!! He loves this country and what it has done for him, and by doing that, he has become an American Icon an portrayed America to be badass and strong because of it even though he wasn't born here... So I will take that over people who are born here and hate this country!!! May God bless us all ... One love, One race under him, the human race!!!
@@michaelormond8511 alright pal I’ll give it to ya. He is an american icon even if I don’t like him. I appreciate your input
how did he get his hearing back?
“Disabled” 😂
Yes Arnold is scum!
Hearing loss is a disability 💀cmon sleep joe stalin
Yeah but not the type of disability that really afffects something like body building. It's just there to frame him in a bad light @@LuciusROBLOXX
@@LuciusROBLOXXno its not tard
Like your dad
The IFBB was always backing up Arnold even in his worst physique and that’s why Mike mentzer quit. There was no way to win
he placed 5th. mentzer was also backed by Weider. Mentzer was just a weak mind guy who thought he should win his 1st Olympia. No one does that.
Nope. Rigged olympia. Especially that one when Franco won when he could barely train legs due to an accident. Arnold was a snake back then
@@epicamuseMentzer never said he should have won.
When you find who was Arnold father💀
The more you learn about the Arnold, the more you know all his wins and victories came not through hard work in the gym alone, dude is a politician through and through!
Bingo ! Bingo! Bingo!!
Thats how winners and successful people are made, hes the best example of started from the bottom and conquered the world.
And he will still die at a regular age like everyone else. Can't talk his way out of death.
@@JbisalwayswrongandfailsallthetOkay hows that relevant though?
Didn't hurt Joe Wieder loved Arnold
Master Manipulator Arc - A. Schwarzenegger
what an Alpha, elite body and spirit
That's his life
@@straytonox1492 what a fake trash human
Arnold was training and competing professionally many years before lou started to lift weights and competing
...and Rnold with the Weiders were also fixing contests and manipulating competitors then. The IFBB and it's competitions are mostly marketing campaigns for their products.
But if Lou had carried on, he would have won many Olympia titles, there really wasnt anyone left who would have come close to him. Apart from serge.
What are your chances today?
"Im gonna lose Arnold"
Thank you
That was wild😂😂😂😂😂
arnie was a sneaky bastard.
Jealousy is a horrible thing 😂
Theres probably a couple arnold won he shouldnt have...... especially when he came back in like 1980 i believe. He was no where near enough to win that show.
Not a couple. Just one, the 1980 Olympia when he came back.
@@hernantuquero5969Arnold's 1971 win is also unfair because there was no one there to oppose him.
Bro they don’t care, people love Arnold because he’s Arnold…. And those judges got paid also. No way he was better in latter years.
You know that was done for the movie pumping iron, right? They were and still are friends.
Arnold is a honest and hardworking man and is the King of bodybuilding
That's why Arnold became a politician
Arnold had Born charisma. Like non other bodybuilders today. Arnold made bodybuilding sport great. If it wasn’t for him it was still a sport for freaks.
" BIG Louie " as Arnold would derisively say!😂😂😂
It always seemed like Lou ferrigno got screwed over by weider and his pet Arnold
It's a crime he has no Sandow.
Arnold is King 👑
Arnold posed like a champion. The guy becomes a movie star in both Action and Comedy. He’s elected Governor of the most powerful land mass in the world, twice. Neither Serge or Lou had a chance. Sure he played mind games, but so did Larry Bird and Michael Jordon. All champions in every major sport have ice cold will power. They too get messed with more than anyone else.
"I will loose Arnold you're the best" Is kind of line u usually say to homelander...
Ferrigno might have hearing loss but he was not disabled which is why Arnold respected him as a competitor
Pumping iron was something that they had in the '70s known as a docudrama. It was a documentary with a fictitious story within it. Arnold was playing the heel, well. Lou ferrigno was playing the part of the baby face.
Arnold didnt like his father, but he probably ended up just like him.
As I’ve said - Arnold’s trolling is unmatched for decades - he told Louie “I’m no nervous at all, not at all” while shaking and pretending to be actually nervous but all as a way to make fun of how nervous Lou was. I wanna watch pumping iron again..
Disabled!!! 😂 That was super loaded. These were equal playing fields and this wasn’t the first time they competed against each other. Big Lou was no victim.
I mean to be fair, Arnold just out classed and out posed Lou on stage and won fair and square. He's the GOAT for a reason.
Arnold messed up so many legends, Tom, Mike, and Lou
Who cares 😂
@@andymate25 took the life of mentzer
@@PGYT_OFFICIAL He took it himself
Oh no arnold took advantage of a disabled man a disabled Hulk
Arnold himself called Pumping Iron a “Docu-drama” behind the scenes. Lou was the biggest bodybuilder to ever step on stage at the time, but winning the Olympia isn’t just being the biggest. The story Arnold told about not going to his own father’s funeral was a story Arnold heard from a bodybuilder that was asking Arnold for advice. Arnold was shocked by the story, so he told it in the movie to present himself as willing to make any sacrifice to win! Arnold also popped off about giving his best friend in the world Franco Columbo “the wrong advices….”. Total crap, Arnold and Franco remained best friends until the day Franco unfortunately passed. R.I.P. Arnold planned on retiring from Bodybuilding, but they came to Arnold with the idea for Pumping Iron and building up this big rivalry between Arnold and Lou. Arnold agreed to compete one more year to make Pumping Iron, which created a world wide hit and gyms opening up all over the U.S.! Thank goodness for bodybuilding that Arnold agreed and they made a great movie we all enjoy watching! 💪🙌
Arnold still looked the best regardless
I always thought Lou had over developed traps tbh. Looks weird up by his neck and not so aesthetic.
But clearly shows right there that the Mr universe are fixed😮
You mean Mr. Olympia.
@@hernantuquero5969no they don’t know what they are talking about, they meant Mr. Universe
Universe,Olympia, America...you name it they're all fixed
That's nothing James Cameron convinced him he was a robot. He still believes it to this day.
Lou Ferrigno was stronger then Arnold Schwarzenegger. In his prime he could bench press 560lbs and squat 640lbs. The guy was a monster.
It's a real crime Lou has no Sandow
the villain in bodybuilding
U HAD THE POWER TO RELEASE/OR GRANT TOOKIE WILLIAMS WHAT EVER WAS AVAILABLE TO HIM!YALL WORKED OUT TOGETHER MAN🤴🏿🤴🏼
I agree, Lou Ferrigno was absolutely no threat to Arnold. Although Lou Ferrigno was huge. He had very little details in his muscles
Just because you're deaf in one ear doesnt mean you're disabled...
Idk what they mean... he kinda wants to win but also has a way of passing on the competitiveness
Bro Ronnie and Jay are so much better winners😅😅😅
Its called shit talking. . Getting in someones head . . Its part of all competitions
Arnold just had a way with words
Lou was always the better man on or off the stage... genuine gentleman
Lou said his dad kicked him out of the house that night when he lost that competition
The terminater - cone with me if you want to live
Arnold schwarzenegger - come with me if you want to fail
“I’m gonna lose Arnold, you’re the best” bruh you’re 6’5 and 260lbs, just beat his ass
Arnold out worked everyone in the gym....and then worked and went to school...so yeah haters gonna hate
I'm learning that terminator was pretty shady..
Lou will always be number one!
So Arnold isn't the hero we all thought he was. . . . . .he was the villain (ominous music plays)💀🤣🤣
Im guna lose arnold, your the best 😀. Thank you 🗿
Get your facts straight... Lou was 275 pounds..
Be no means was lou "disabled" he was deaf in a ear...but more gifted then all of us
If you are a mature grown adult, you know there's a trick around every corner just waiting for you to walk into its webb
That was added to the documentary Pumping Iron to give it some drama. Come on!
Let's also not forget that Lou's parents abandoned him for losing to Arnie
Im sorry if you think Louis (no disrespect an insane build) could build Arnie your crazy... Lou's arms where crazy but Arnie was the top of his game
It’s not manipulation to anger a weak minded person. And I’m not saying Lou is a WEAK person, he just allowed Arnold to make him ANGRY (insert Hulk joke here) and instead of using the anger to fuel him to beat Arnold, he just stayed pissed. Arnold was no master manipulator
Big Arnold💪🏻
I'm sure lou himself would be upset at this for calling him disabled. Also he'd tell you to your face that Arnold just plain won.
I never knew hulk could only hear out one ear
It’s same like all boxing people do too 😅
Psychological warfare is fair but being friends with the referees is where I draw the line
Lou while being a great bodybuilder was never a true threat to Arnold. Arnold had the entire IFBB on his side from the go, he was their favourite. As well as being a great bodybuilder in his own right, he was simply bigger than most other competitors for a start
“This massive”😂
Arnold was always the most marketable. Franco was small, Lou was hearing impaired and Mentzer just sabotaged himself. Platz and Zane came around only after Arnold was established as the goat. Understandable why the Weiders were always pushing Arnold.
Some haters has no idea how hard Arnold and joe wielder tried to promote the sport,they even went to jail to promote health and fitness.Arnold was the best of his era and most conditioned guy except for 1980 olympia.Without pumping iron,bodybuilding would have been far behind than what it has become now.let legends stay as legends and you don't have to dish out for some views.Most of the legends have died,be grateful that he is still alive.Damn,everything was better in 80's and 90's in terms of bodybuilding,football,music,movies,basketball,etc.Now we have come close near to WWlll.😔🙏🙏
Let's be completely honest here. Lou was never beating this Arnold
Bro thinks pumping iron was real 😂
Psychological warfare isnt cheating its utilizing a skill. Of course the IFBB backed Arnold. He was the goose laying their proverbial "golden eggs". Magazines, training courses, equipment, supplements..all the sales skyrocketed when Arnold came on the scene. As far as the contest and it's outcome, it was nothing personal against Lou, it was business. It may be unfair and downright dishonorable from a moral point of view, but so is the world of business. Marketing 101
Lou had a 10/10 physique. But that aint beating Arnold
Lou didn’t get manipulated: He wasn’t mature enough to stand up in physique or mental toughness. alThey call it Competition for a reason. If the Arnold of 1975 went up against Lou in his prime a few years later? That would have been close.
And thats why hes the goat
YOUR GODDAME RIGHT SON
The goat of snakes
exactly, not only big but very smart
@@gabrielecivale5020 womb womb
“Disabled” is a touch misleading. What shocker on RUclips 😂
The more I learn about the history of Mr. Arnold, the more disappointed I am in him, and I understand that he was really quite the crooked one!
Upsetting actually 😪😮
I've said this before and I'll say it again, you should idolize Arnold not because he was a good person but rather because he was good at winning
Bodybuilding is suppose to be about Symmetry, Definition, Proportion, Dry , Stryation, Not politics. So no Arnold was a snake & didn't deserve to win. Arnold wanted the fame so bad he didn't care about anyone's feelings, He's a selfish self centered narcissist. You see the truth has finally come out.
😂😂😂😂 its easy to win when the judges are your friends and he really was pos person belittling people like that he deserves shit and alot of people agree with that
... but often Arnold was NOT the best on stage. Many in the industry claim Mike Mentzer, Frank Zane and several others were routinely robbed by the Weider / Schwarzenegger marketing machine. Many of the judges for the various events were longtime friends of Weider who also provided under the table perks including all expense paid vacations, fine dining at 5 star restaurants, women, etc. Overall, very sleazy - Mentzer realized this early in his career and retired shortly after finally winning Mr. O with a perfect score after having been denied in what should have been winning form.
@herberthensley3691 he didn't win that last Olympia I think he knows deep down mike mentzer won the 1980 Mr olympia mike was his better that day it's only because of his politics same way he helped franco beat tom platz when Tom again looked better than his friend who had gyno sergio and mike didn't lose to him and he knows it
@@williamnewsome5169Mike Mentzer had a perfect 300 score in the Mr Universe contest in 1978 he won his weight class in the 1979 Mr Olympia but lost to Frank Zane overall
His dad also disowned him after he lost to Arnold.
Louis will always be the real Hulk
Contests aren’t what you think they are…many events the outcome is determined before the contest begins.
It comes out years ago, this was scripted to the make the documentary Pumping iron. It came out that they wanted to run a story line with a good and bad guy. Arnold said he would play the bad guy.
Arnold was Joe Wieder buddy that was his poster child for his magazine. That’s why he won so many times he cheated.
Don't let them fool you. Arnold was putting on a performance for the cameras. Arnold knew that as impressive as Lou was, he wasn't ready to be real competition against him yet, but they needed a larger than life character to drive the documentary. The producers wanted Lou to be that villain, but Arnold could see that Lou was way too much of a gentle giant. As a result, Arnold decided the He would be the villain of his own story to sell the doc. Using his emerging fame and charisma, he manipulated the filmakers into making a product that would both inform and entertain.
So many bodybuilders did this just they never made it too obvious or talked about
The real threat was Mike Mentzer
Politician for a reason..! 😂
LMAO even Lou admitted that he never had the chance. it was Nubret that they were scared of
People hating Arnold for this why would a guy playing fucking competition will say to his rival how to win against me he also wanted to win the competition
How can Arnold say that with such confidence, tricking a disabled person is horrible. I’ve disliked Arnold ever since I found out about 1979 Mr Olympia and his fixed win against Mike mentzer.
Lou never looked better than Arnold,
Arnold looked far better
Lou always was and always will be the better man on and off stage.
Arnold knew he couldn't win fair and square he won his titles through manipulation and politics.
Arnold was McGregor and Ali of Bodybuilding,he knew how to get into people's skin and play with their head the way he liked,definitely the Pyscopath's behavior but i guess if everyone is working hard then you have to find something to your advantage.
Such exaggerated video… They put on a show for the movie. Also, the psychological is also part of the competition.
What was the purpose of saying "this disabled body builder", it had absolutely f-all to do with the story.
Buddy.. you do realize pumping iron was mostly false sensationalism.
And in the world of body building there is a lot of politics, Arnold was the chosen favorite at the time. Lou did deserve his shot, but the subjectiveness of bodybuilding is its own beast. Don’t make it sound like Arnold went scheming for things. He razzed guys sure, but outside of that.. it wasn’t this massive rivalry.
This is incredibly old news, he says it all in Pumping Iron. Also, mind games in sports are as old as sports are. Boring
The more i read about Arnold I question why I idolized him.
If Lou ferrigno wanted to be Mr. Olympia, he could have, in 76 or 77, however he got the roll of the incredible hulk on the TV show, and I'm sure that paid a lot more money.