David Starkey: Was Henry VI that bad? David Starkey Lectures

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @davidstarkeytalks
    @davidstarkeytalks  2 года назад +10

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  • @dominiclane8538
    @dominiclane8538 2 года назад +52

    David Starkey is a legend

    • @dominiclane8538
      @dominiclane8538 2 года назад +3

      @@augustbliss what's yah mean.?

    • @northernlights8126
      @northernlights8126 2 года назад +4

      @Dominic Lane, he’s a Rock Star.

    • @joshuaowensjr8694
      @joshuaowensjr8694 Год назад

      David Starkey is a legend are you serious? He’s a homophobic racist piece of shit human being.

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 2 года назад +16

    It’s incredible how much I learn from every one of Dr. Starkey’s talks. Now I want to see Cambridge and Oxford more than ever.

    • @lorrainecrampton1632
      @lorrainecrampton1632 2 года назад +2

      They're both beautiful cities 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 9 месяцев назад +4

    Contrary to what is said very dismissively by Starkey here, it's widely believed that Henry VI actually suffered from schizophrenia. Indeed, he seized up for around a year and was completely unresponsive, which is consistent with catatonic schizophrenia. This appears to have been inherited from his mother, Catherine of Valois, who had similar mental health problems and died young. His great grandmother is also said to have had similar problems. Henry VI became detached from reality at various times. At one point, he believed he was made of glass and denied he had a wife or children. Henry's naternal grandfather, Charles VI of France also suffered from mental illness, often becoming agitated and violent.

  • @louisemerriman1079
    @louisemerriman1079 2 года назад +7

    Love David Starkey ! Absolute wealth of knowledge

  • @peneloped.wenman4388
    @peneloped.wenman4388 2 года назад +18

    .. what a Living Treasure you are, David Starkey ... a brilliant star in God's Heaven of Oratory ... clear brilliance so beloved we love to hear ... deep intuitive sociological perception of the truth of the matters of history are thus presented ... we all pause to be seated at the feet of the Master ... so it is now ... & so it will be in Kingdom to come ...there is something eternal here ... at once 'now' & in the Classics Hall of Fame ...

  • @Commandoj251
    @Commandoj251 2 года назад +16

    I feel bad for Henry VI, his dad died when he was young and lived in his dad’s shadow.

    • @oliverdesvaux
      @oliverdesvaux 2 года назад +3

      Isn’t that just normal life?! 😂

    • @smythharris2635
      @smythharris2635 2 года назад +6

      Not in this case, he wasn't Aziz from the corner shop😂

    • @neverforever4787
      @neverforever4787 2 года назад +1

      Not to mention his battle with what was likely schizophrenia.

  • @Pauline-wu4ej
    @Pauline-wu4ej 2 года назад +6

    Fascinating. Really enjoyed this talk.

  • @joebombero1
    @joebombero1 11 месяцев назад

    I love lectures like this. I had no idea England had universities prior to the 15th century. Here in the Philippines, the first graduating class of Santo Tomas University was 1611. I knew France had older institutions, but not England.

  • @celiaparker6166
    @celiaparker6166 2 года назад +6

    A little surprising that Henry VII took so long to continue work on King's College, given that he wanted Henry VI canonised. Or was he more focused on his own chapel at Westminster Abbey which may have been intended to house Henry's relics?

  • @louisgiokas2206
    @louisgiokas2206 2 года назад +6

    When I lived in Winchester we went to Hospital of St. Cross, and the parish of St. Faith's. The first time I was there, when the collection purse came along, I put in at 20-pound note. The old lady next me asked if was going to take change. I of course said no, since the Episcopal church is funded by the parishioners. Then the Master showed me around their water meadows, and I understood.

    • @IamDarthMuller
      @IamDarthMuller 2 года назад +2

      i don’t understand (not trolling)

    • @louisgiokas2206
      @louisgiokas2206 2 года назад +3

      @@IamDarthMuller What I was referring to was the fact that the church there, as in medieval times, relied on its land holdings for money. This of course was not the American experience. The Hospital of St. Cross was a retirement community of worthy men of limited means. It was founded by Henri of Blois, William the Conquers nephew. He was the Bishop of Winchester. The time was 1100 AD. The head of St. Cross was called the Master. He also ministered to the church there, which was called St. Faith's. To this day, they still rely on massive land holdings to fund their operations. They also hold a fete. This is a fundraising event to raise money for charitable operations. I often ran the coconut shy. Great fun. Hope that helps.

  • @tomservo75
    @tomservo75 Год назад +3

    I love this lecture but I think Starkey's a bit hard on Henry VI. Sure his reign resulted in a lot of problems, but it's not all his fault. Kinged at 9 months old, never knowing his father, never growing up in a court with a role model. Then add to that divisions at court amongst his nobles going back to his minority, and mental illness on top of that? I don't think many kings could succeed under those circumstances. One thing we will agree on, and I'm glad he mentioned, was Richard III being the worst. My vote for worst would be Henry VIII, and as an American I'm not too fond of George III myself. Think about it: George III and Henry VI - both insane. Both lost large land holdings of Britain. The similarities are there. The loss of the American colonies, if I were judging from a British point of view, would be much worse than a few counties in France. But that's just my Yankee opinion.

  • @eleanorsopwith9806
    @eleanorsopwith9806 2 года назад +6

    Cambridge University Press, Darwin's theory of evolution, the discovery of the electron, the splitting of the atom to name just a few wonders of learning, thanks to Cambridge University. Thank you Henry VI. Never knew much about him. Thank you David.

  • @aarondavis8943
    @aarondavis8943 Год назад +2

    Imagine a God that looks down and thinks "This man paid a whole lot of people to pray for him, so I'm going to elevate him from purgatory into heaven much faster".

  • @davidtownsend6092
    @davidtownsend6092 2 года назад +20

    I like Starkey alot but as he gets older he's go some pretty clear biases that he has alot of trouble seperating from history. Like a sports fan goin on about how Thier fav player and team are the best and everyone else is a pleb so nyah.

    • @CasperScott-qq6ip
      @CasperScott-qq6ip Год назад

      He is allowed his opinion. Free speech should apply across the board, not just when it's politically correct. I don't find his comments particularly upsetting. Those that lack an education seem to forget that at some point in history most nations and or ethnicity have had good points and bad points. IE nazi Germany had rabbid anti sematism but England had it in1290s

    • @22poopoo
      @22poopoo Год назад +1

      Yes and everything has become 'extra-ordinary'!

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@CasperScott-qq6ip​​ I'm not really sure that was especially relevant to the point that was made? There's a time and a place for everything. I'm not sure many people go to history lectures to hear someone rant like that. It makes him look histrionic and undermines his credibility. He sometimes gives the impression that he can't seem to see things except through the prism of his own predictions, and that we're all desperate to hear it.

  • @christopherarkell9862
    @christopherarkell9862 Год назад +2

    The flagellatory characteristics of Henry VII are not dissimilar to those of the Mayan Rulers who not only scarified themselves in extraordinary rituals but had humble priest-servants to point out the rulers’ precariousness.

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 5 месяцев назад +1

    Here is something strange. I saw a reconstruction of Henry viii and Richard iii. They look a like. Richard had the reddish hair. I am thnking that Henry's vii son looked like his wife's uncle. That must have freaked him out, since Henry vii killed Richard.

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 2 года назад +3

    I would really like to know where, and to whom, these lectures are given. I do appreciate that the lecture date is posted.

    • @michaelcorkery3853
      @michaelcorkery3853 2 года назад +3

      I think he is speaking to the Worshipful Company of Barbers at Barbers Surgeons Hall in the City of London.

  • @john-gealy4765
    @john-gealy4765 2 года назад +2

    Extremely interesting.. the acquired wealth of the Diocese later transfered into the secular municipal corporation via its probate jurisdiction, would be a discussion worth having.. if it does not make you a blackballed dissident.

  • @dannydoj
    @dannydoj 2 года назад +8

    A secular scholar, Starkey is limited in perception to the outer trappings of the belief in Purgatory. The Medieval period saw the development of something that already had an organic presence in Hebrew religion and early Catholicism.

    • @CasperScott-qq6ip
      @CasperScott-qq6ip Год назад

      Where is purgatory mentioned in Hebrew writings let alone the Bible

  • @Guitcad1
    @Guitcad1 Год назад

    That's a really odd-looking podium. When the camera is in close-up on him it looks like he's in a courtroom witness stand made for hand puppets.

  • @tzw001
    @tzw001 2 года назад +1

    Why can I like this only once?

  • @peterm488
    @peterm488 2 года назад +3

    It doesn’t say anywhere in the bible that girls can marry at 12. I believe that was Jewish tradition.

  • @danwhite3002
    @danwhite3002 2 года назад +4

    A fantastic talk apart from the Neanderthal joke about autism!

    • @cr8207
      @cr8207 2 года назад +1

      The digs at Islam were pretty cringe

    • @neverforever4787
      @neverforever4787 2 года назад +1

      I thought that was in bad taste as well, especially considering historians pretty much agree Henry VI suffered schizophrenia, just like his grandfather.

    • @ralphl7643
      @ralphl7643 2 года назад +2

      I took it as a dig at the recent fashion of finding autism everywhere.

    • @danwhite3002
      @danwhite3002 2 года назад +1

      @@ralphl7643 Yes it was very much the flippant remark of a Daily Mail reading dinosaur!

    • @kittysparkleeyes
      @kittysparkleeyes 6 месяцев назад +1

      I thought it was gross too.. Henry vi may well have had autism looking at his relationships and how he interacted with others, he probably had schizophrenia too. Mocking mental illness isnt cool even in a long dead king because many people continue to live with it.

  • @FiFi-wt9zj
    @FiFi-wt9zj 2 года назад +5

    Brilliant

  • @jonathanwheeler194
    @jonathanwheeler194 2 года назад +1

    Just awesome. Thank you!

  • @paulrimmer391
    @paulrimmer391 Месяц назад

    What a story! And we are left with England's greatest building.

  • @ktcooki276
    @ktcooki276 2 года назад +5

    Can't watch live because I don't have a tv license!!!🇬🇧

    • @welshhibby
      @welshhibby 2 года назад +4

      why dont you watch it anyway !

    • @williamwarnold6737
      @williamwarnold6737 2 года назад +6

      Can’t see the big BBC detector van, out on a Saturday evening. Go for it.
      Don’t answer the door.😀😀😀

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 2 года назад +6

      Not having a TV is liberating.

    • @RichMitch
      @RichMitch 2 года назад +4

      It's not live, it's a premiere

    • @DS9TREK
      @DS9TREK 2 года назад +3

      @@RichMitch that counts as live for the purpose of the TV licence. Live in the legislation is defined as watching a programme as it is broadcast.

  • @pishelles
    @pishelles Год назад

    Love the Starkey.

  • @nyckolaus
    @nyckolaus Год назад

    Excellent! Brilliant!

  • @Tramseskumbanan
    @Tramseskumbanan 2 года назад +3

    I didn’t know that Edward III was the first king of York? I thought he was a Plantagenet.

    • @stevewatson6839
      @stevewatson6839 2 года назад +3

      He mispoke; he obviously meant Edward IV.

    • @Tawny6702
      @Tawny6702 2 года назад

      The Yorkists and Lancastrians were both branches of the Plantagenets.

    • @Tramseskumbanan
      @Tramseskumbanan 2 года назад

      @@Tawny6702 That’s right, and the first Plantagenet king was Henry II.

  • @ralphl7643
    @ralphl7643 2 года назад +2

    So, if Henry VI hadn't performed posthumous miracles, King's College wouldn't have been finished? Not a very Protestant way of looking at it.

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 5 месяцев назад

    Our college was named after saints like St. Regis. So the college was to ask the saints to pray for the students. Our colleges were founded by Jesuit musdionaries. Even the local state school has an old catholic church which they use as a chapel. It has a patron. I live inwhat was once new Spain and now is the 🇺🇸. I dont think the eastern schools are like this. Schools like Havard and Yale are probably like the English school.

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 2 года назад +3

    What's with the lectern ? Looks more like a Gent's Toilet
    Cubicle ..!

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 2 года назад +1

    Awesome

  • @PJames-fh4gj
    @PJames-fh4gj 2 года назад +1

    It's always a delight to listen to Starkey's lectures but the one comment he made on Purgatory really shows he's not a religious scholar (not that he's claimed to be one). I'd just prefer to attribute it to his acerbic humour.

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 2 года назад +1

    my lord...

  • @jaixzz
    @jaixzz 2 месяца назад

    Henry VI was a scholar...

  • @mahatmamartinus
    @mahatmamartinus 2 года назад +3

    There is a Biblical basis for Purgatory (CCC1030-31) what are you talking about?

    • @sh-hg4eg
      @sh-hg4eg 2 года назад +5

      Not original scripture.

    • @peterm488
      @peterm488 2 года назад +4

      Not for Anglicans: see 39 Articles number 22 😁