2 extra inches of Mac is a BIG difference! - 16 inch M1 MacBook Pro
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The 14 inch MacBook Pro has remade Apple’s iconic notebook, but the 16 inch may be what many professionals reach for. Are they getting a more powerful laptop, or simply a larger one?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Externals
1:25 The Display
3:15 Cooling and Benchmarks
5:59 Future Anthony
7:32 Gaming
8:52 Thermals
11:23 Synopsis 
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Girls: “2 inches doesn’t matter”
Anthony: “ boy, check out how much 2 inches can do!”
@@alarice411 why
@@1mag1n33dev It's a bot. I wish whoever managed the LTT channel would setup a blacklist filter for bot posts like these.
@@HarmonicDuality its really hard to block those bots, yt needs to do something
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Facts
I sometimes can't tell if Anthony is talking about M1 Max or M1 Macs lol Apple's naming scheme needs an improvment.
Orgasm! Technology
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@@tiestofalljays what?
Did you mean orgasm and organism?
Yeah, the "googleability" is pretty terrible. Even "Apple M1 Pro MacBook Pro" is not a good search term because the duplicate word gets ignored.
I agree, i really wish they stuck with the internal code names that were leaked before these released. It was initially M1, M1X (for M1 Pro), and likely M1Z (for M1 Max). Which would have been much more in line with how they were naming iPad Pro chips before.
Lmao considering its a review on the laptops, how can you think its an M1 Mac? not that hard
Damn Anthony has really become a top tier host, he's an absolute delight to watch!
yeah thats totally why he is the lowest rated host in terms of views
if you bots stopped praising him for one second and talk about the actual video that’d be nice
@@Freestyle80 woah we got a hater here 😛😛
@@Freestyle80 he's too nerdy, which is a pro in this case... he explains stuff too well for the average persons understanding of it, so they won't be able to follow along.
this of cause will have an influence on how many people find this kind of content entertaining(therefor clickable')
so therefor less folk clicky clicky
@@sixtenradl7141he is wrong
I’ve had my 16” M1 Pro for a month and its by far the best fastest computer I’ve ever used. For typical work, web browsing and streaming HD & 4K video I’ve yet to hear the fans spin up even once. At most it gets slightly warm to the touch, never uncomfortably hot. The battery life is incredible. The screen is by far the best I’ve ever seen in a laptop and the sound is by far the best I’ve heard. I’m really happy with it and I’m sure I’ll be using it for years to come.
I’ve never owned a MacBook in my life but I always watch these videos because Anthony is in the thumbnail 😏
Does your mother know you're GheyAF?
same
What a chad
Same. Have never owned a Mac of any kind and will never, but Anthony...so I watch.
I agree. I could be convinced to pick up a iPad, but not a Mac. but I gotta support Anthony.
I've had the MaxBook for a week now. I'm an iOS Engineer. It's the first machine I have ever owned that I know is overkill for my needs. It's beyond good.
There are laptops less than half the price of the Pro Max, which have more powerful GPUs and can actually game as well. *That's* Overkill.
Hope you got your mac at a deep discount.
@@Resanctify youre just mad because ur broke
@@Resanctify Ok but like do they run MacOS? No? Well shit m8 he aint gonna get his job done on those.
@@Resanctify can those same laptops even get half the battery life? Are they as portable? Do they have as good a screen? These are not for gaming. These are for getting work done. And if this tool makes you money then of course it's worth it.
MAXTECH is about to make a video on how unfair u are towards the MacBooks lol
the 16 inch is a belter and cant imagine going back to 14 now. screen and sound is so good.
it has been a joy. i got so used to my old 2014 mac book and its quirks of constant fan noise and constant recharging required.
Thank you for including the Blender tests and simply for keeping an eye on the Blender development, Andy!
3:27
ProTip: Press Alt while scaling an image to resize it from its center. Additionally, if you also press Shift while doing so, now you're scaling it proportionally! Neat, right?
photoshop resizes proportionally without holding shift for a few years now
@@cortzetroc Imagine a mac user reading this, what is photoshop?
@@cortzetroc mine doesn't, maybe it's a setting.
@@RiddleTime What are you on about? Photoshop is Apple first.
@@RiddleTime ahh yes photoshop is not available on macos
Is that a MacBook on your pants or you are just happy to see me? Best underrated line from Antony 😂
All of the above
No, it's a MAXXX.
Even after buying the 16inch I still continue to watch and enjoy these videos. I never thought I would continue watching them even after buying it
I’m in music production, and I’ve never had a 16in for my mobile computer. Must say it’s amazing having the extra screen space on the move! The only downfall I’ve noticed is car rides/planes are not nearly as suited as the 14in/air in tight spaces. Especially after I pull out an audio interfaces.
I’m heavy into music production and will take it to friends house/studio but I don’t whip out my laptop on planes or in the car lol. Knowing this should I get the 16 or 14? At first I wanted the 16 but then changed my mind because I thought it’d be too big but now I’m considering the 16 again 🤔
The way Anthony speaks, pauses at the right places...really enjoy watching vids where he is the host. Keep it up!
Anthony is such a legend, doing that intro with a straight face, he's the G.O.A.T of LTT
More Anthony less linus
He's trash.. Flop video
@@KingKong-xp6so you’re a flop
Enjoy him while he lasts. Dudes that large tend to croak at a young age.
why the hate man?
I like the visual comparison sitting next to the old 15.4" cMBP. I'm still rocking my mid 2012 15.4" cMBP and thinking about upgrading, or waiting one more year for them to iron out any new issues that come to light in the new design. I don't currently do much intensive stuff on it, but being stuck on Catalina is kind of a bummer as that's now 2 generations behind.
You could install a modified newer version of MacOS for your system, i believe its pretty simple, but its still the "effort" to do it.
There won’t be new MacBook Pros next year ;)
@@guidosc3470 What makes a you say that?
@@HVDynamo They will just update the SOC in the Macbooks next year Apple doesn't change the form factor aka body of the machine until at least 4 years have past. The Air will probably see an update but the Macbook Pros will have this style for at least 4 more years with only internal upgrades.
When you upgrade, take a shot on installing Linux on your old mbp. It's a fun hobby project and you get an operating system with modern security updates
Really interesting insights into Apple's choice of thermal throttling over fan speed/noise. Were I to choose to upgrade to an M1-based MacBook Pro at this point (I'm still quite happy with my max. spec 2016 15.4" MBP given my relatively light workload), I'd certainly look for an app that would enable a custom fan speed profile vs SOC temps.
A much more balanced review thank you Anthony! I have a 16" M1 Pro and thoroughly enjoying it. It handles everything I throw at it from a Logic and Final Cut aspect. This year was the first time I have purchased a Mac since the late 90s and I'm loving it. Building PCs since the late 80s I have a gaming PC for games but using this more and more, to the point now for just about everything else. Dreamed of UNIX with a Mac front end in the 90s, MAE was just too slow on my Ultra 10 and the stability of Slackware back in then meant Linux was always on the "extra" PC rather than the primary and the NeXT (which I still have) was very slow by that time period. My M1 Pro hasn't crashed once and I got it the day of release... if nothing else scripting for fun on the same PC I can do actual work on, having a real terminal for sys administration and also being able to play WoW and FFXIV on it makes it a win for me personally. To each his own, I still have 2 high end Windows laptops from work which are top of the line but battery life, screen, sound, keyboard etc... there just isn't a comparison.
Mean brother! Which version of the 16 do you have?
What specs did you get ?
There's no tougher performance test for macs than running a ms teams videoconference, really wondering if it works better on these devices
Na your companies bandwith will limit it no matter what you do :P
It's alright actually, it still blasts through the battery but it's not heating up unreasonably.
I (have to) run teams. 14" M1 Pro doesn't care. It just runs fine in the background, or conferencing, no fan, no fuss. Unlike my prior Intel Macbooks which was a bunch of fan noise and aggravation.
@@JethroRose Cool. That's exactly my experience with the intel macs. At least it keeps my desk mostly clean of dust near the mac.
my macbook air m1 8gb ram 2020, runs ms teams everyday with no prob, it gets a lil bit warm but not hot.
As a 3D artist, I find the M1 chip super compelling, especially as blender 3.1 is on the horizon. I would love to see more builds and videos focused on creative use!
Still Need more native software rather than the translate version
I'm waiting on my M1 Max order to come in, but even rendering on my sister's M1 Air was impressive. Obviously it doesn't hold a candle to these pro models, but it still out performed my spec'd out Intel MBP. Actually was what convinced me to order mine. I very much hope that software support is made a priority. I wonder if Apple would ever incentivize it. I know that Microsoft actually will implement backwards compatibility and performance boosts on Xbox games, rather than making the devs do it themselves. I wonder if we could ever see Apple doing something similar, considering Mac's still are "niche"
Depends on what kind of 3d artist you are. If you have pretty simple scenes, and all your software is supported, it will be ok, but pretty expensive. macOS is not the best plattform for 3d in general. Better go for windows. The only thing i really can recommend on macOS is Adobe/Substance Painter(except the slow baking). Rendering on M1max is still super slow compared to nvidia devices. Modern renderers are good at handling mipmaps and out of core textures and geometry. The biggest problem vram-wise are complex volumes. Thats were m1 max probably will shine.
@@ChaosOver apple assigned some of their own engineers to work with the blender foundation. I agree the Max currently isn’t as good as nvdia cards, but it’s clear apple want to make their machines more capable for heavy 3D projects in the future.
@@branpod It is more about the metaverse. ;)
Still need an update from the last video addressing the questions raised by the Max Tech channel on the very sketchy benchmark and testing inconsistencies.
Great Video. I am still confident with my decision to go with the 14 Inch. I just adore the form Factor.
Loving my M1 Pro. Being able to work at the coffee shop or at a friends place all day in a single charge with zero throttling has already justified the cost for me. I’ve had it since launch and still haven’t heard the fans spin up yet, even with Unity previews running. My old gaming laptop sounded like a jet, ran slow, and lasted for maybe 40 minutes on battery.
Its amazing, the battery lasts forever.
Which model did you get?
@@BTMovieSecondChannel base model 16"
@@PopStrikers Nice! I got the M1 Pro 16" with 1 TB. Also really loving it. Sometimes I envy the portability of the 14", but I know working on the 16" screen is much more comfortable at solitary places.
@@BTMovieSecondChannel I actually originally ordered the base model 14", but returned it for the 16. The screen and battery are definitely worth the extra bit of heft.
I was anticipating this video!
Love to LTT for their hard work!
I had a 2014 15” mbp and I decided on a 14”. I love how much more portable it feels. 3.5 vs 4.7 lbs is a big difference. And it’s docked to monitors when I don’t need the portability
I had a 2016 15" and went with the 14" for the same reason. It's the perfect size, and I dock it when I'm working at my desk. The games I play work fine enough on the 14" and my primary use (video editing, music creation, and development) work perfectly
I used to own a 17" MBP and the thing was like lugging around a dinner tray. I loved that laptop, but if one is going to have a laptop - get a small one. It's meant to be portable, after all. Can always plug it into an external display.
I just bought a 16" MBP and man, it's a really, really nice machine.
the intro was beautiful😭. The LTT writers are so underrated. Big ups to Anthony as well for being a wonderful host
@@alarice411 begone bot
awesome info, I went 14" for the form factor with a 1TB pro, glad to know it isn't throttling. 16" just too big for my use case, looks like I bought the sweet spot for this size :)
what CPU and RAM?
“But the entire M1 Pro and Max line up has a unique combination of performance, efficiency and endurance, rolled into a form factor that's pleasing to use, with fewer compromises that what we're used to. You're also getting a display that's unmatched in the PC world, speakers that are legitimely some of the best in the industry and a tightly integrated ecosystem that speaks to many. […] Apple is moving in the right direction, and this is a major step towards what could be a brighter future for the industry. After all, wherever Apple goes, the PC surely follows.”
I wholeheartedly agree with what Anthony is saying. If I wasn't so attached to the Linux ecosystem and the x86 architecture, I think I would already have bought a new MacBook Pro, despite being anti-Apple since a long time. I am looking forward to laptops with a day long battery (high hopes for the new Intel BIG.little architecture), a screen and speakers as good as the MacBook ones and the shift back to sensible IO, thickness and keyboard travel key.
By the way, now that you mention Linux, are there any moves towards making it run natively on Apple Silicon (even with Apple’s predictable and preemptive moves in attempting to prevent just that)?
@@Mainyehc You can check Asahi Linux, weirdly Apple does not do everything to prevent a Linux port, and it seems to work relatively well (stille a lot of work to be done of course)
Linux ecosystem, what do you mean by that? Also, it's really hard for me to think of a reason to be attached to x86.
@@tnmygrwl all the software support and ease of customising that comes with linux suite of tools
Yep only reason I didn't get an m1 mac mini for a desktop replacement was the small amount of ram and macos ecosystem.
Beyond that m1 chips currently represent the best mobile chips in the market for broad usecases - gaming sadly is not great
The 16" and 14" might benchmark the same, but the 16" will run for 1-2 hours longer with it's larger battery. It's mostly screen size but the battery life is big too I think.
One thing to note with Dolphin is that it actually supports Vulkan on MacOs, translating it to Metal through MoltenVK, so performance higher than what the benchmarks suggest should be possible, particularly in games where OpenGL misbehaves due to Apple's lack of support for newer OpenGL versions. (disclaimer: I haven't actually tested Dolphin on an apple silicon mac, but on my intel macs it runs massively better when using Vulkan, I would be very surprised if this behavior didn't carry over)
they knew that exactly, notice how WoW or Baldur's Gate 3 and not in there and how the pc laptop is plugged in
Anthony is really coming into his own with these videos, I really enjoy his content! Keep it up brother ❤️
THAT WAS BY FAR TGE BEST INTRO EVERY THX LINUS TEAM
This 16in mbp is exactly what I needed. Pairs well with a gaming PC
this is what i do, high end gaming machine at home, and my macbook pro for mobile/work use
although my 12inch ipad is slowly taking over and that now
same by me, i7with 2080RTX +16"MBPM1Max for work on the couch
Don’t gotta tell me that 2 inches makes the difference :’D
I hate furries
@@dailybantam dont we all
Thanks, I had the same thoughts regarding the cooler and bought the 16" previously. Now waiting for M1 MBP or MBA to drop in prices once M2 is released, hopefully, by then the Linux GPU driver for the M1 will be released too.
Got a 16" M1 Pro 10core cpu/gpu with 1tb of storage for under $2500 with student discount and $150 back in apple gift card. Legit a masterpiece of a machine.
hiii LTT team. I am a big fan.
your videos are pretty entertaining and informative. thanks for sharing your knowledge. Have a great holiday season.
I originally wanted the 14” but I saw them side by side and had to order the 16” the screen is beautiful and if you get the student discount it’s the same price and the 14” would be without
@scripteaze Damn don't hate because you're stuck with your 2012 13 inch MacBook intel lol enjoy @13StJimmy :D
All of your videos are great. Thx very much to all of you
Actually genuinely helpful in my decision about which sized model to go for!
Most of the setback are software. We need to wait for native app (ARM) using Metal instead of OpenGL
Looks like it's mainly about software optimization right now. I do believe they will get there due to how strong the developer community is around apple products.
I'd be interested to see an additional benchmark using High Power mode, since it's supposed to make the fans run more by default
I chose the 16'' model, mainly because I prefer the larger screen/battery and weight/footprint for portability is not a concern for me.
Thanks. I would love to see you guys add an “on battery” category to your laptop comparisons. It would be interesting to see how the Zephyrus and the new M1 Mac laptops compare when running the benchmarks on battery power.
Little spoiler: every mid-high range laptop sucks on battery power.
@@landscape1570 Regardless, they're comparing laptops here. Performance on battery and battery life, matters.
@@landscape1570 Not the Macs, evidently.
been watching LTT for about 7 years now, and it shocked me how far they`ve come in such a short time.
As always loved the video.
7 years is not a short time
@@yuvrajnautiyal1463 From a guy recording in a garage to a highly respected and well known tech channel.
I believe 7 years is short for the kind of achievements they made.
Thank you! I've been on the fence not sure about getting the 16 or 14 inch models. This helps in that decision:)
Anthony is really killing it, this is a superb video
Anthony, thank you for the review. I just picked up a 14" and this machine it is close to laptop perfection. I am glad Jonny Ive's (Mr. make it thinner) left Apple and found something else to do. As you say the speakers and screen are amazing along with next level battery life. Even after streaming a TV show and playing Minecraft it barely dented the battery and the skin barely got warm. Gaming would cause any other laptop to get hot. Someone appropriately said, "Only Apple would create problems then charge you money to fix them."
I’m the victim of Jonny Ive’s MacBook Pro, during the summertime in Australia my 2018 MacBook Pro barely can run properly due to the overheat, I tried everything I could like disabled Turbo Boost, but still doesn’t stop it throttles to merely 800Mhz, it was devastating experience. Now I’m also keen to buy 14” MacBook Pro, may I ask have you found 16G RAM is adequate enough? I worry about this because I’ve been using 16G RAM of MacBook since 2012. It’s kinda difficult for me to buy another 16G of RAM after a decade.
I have a 16" MBP (Intel) and its just too big. I work from home, most of the time tis at the desk, but sometime i like to take it elsewhere in the house or to the office. I very much preferred the smaller one.
I have the 16inch version, but I wish they made the trackpad a little bit smaller. Sometimes I accidentally click when I shift my finger off of the space bar
awesome that you included the new blender alpha in the comparison.. I have a zephyrus g15 with 3070 and a 14in m1 max. I do all my blender work on my m1 machine now..its just so much nicer to use day to day. But if I have a long animation to render ill send it to the zephyrus because optix.
Curious how it's color accuracy fares among other similar machines marketed to content creation. Power is cool but if we're editing on a non accurate display it means nothing
Thanks to this video, I now definitely know I made the right choice going for the 14-inch MBP. However, I was dumb enough to grab the 14c GPU. I feel it a little bit when I play Minecraft where I feel it needs some oompf to get things going.
2:38 yeah it feels like the first time in over a decade that the smaller Pro models weren’t quite gimped compared to the large models.
1:10 that's true, hdmi is limited to 4k@60, but you can do 4k@144 with type c to display port adapter (just need to make sure you get a correct one which supports that)
The BBD (bigger better deal) is always the winner. Serious props to Anthony, respect for showing the Blender 3.1 alpha as well as the optimism points. Clearly from the graphs, the best price/performance deal is the 24-core M1 Max 16", it has more or is at the same performance level as the 32-core M1 Max 14" model. While $200 more than the 14" model (same specs), it's clearly worth it (for those that choose Apple, I had but conceded it's not for everyone).
or... you could spend $800 bucks on a PC, and still be better than a macbook at 90+% of tasks AND not have to be locked into apple's "walled garden"(of hell)? I've said this for decades, and it's just as true now as it's been forever: the only reason anyone should ever be using a mac is if their job is video editing, or audio editing/composition. There is straight up 0 reason to use mac over PC other than that, there never has been, and it very much looks like there never will be.
ARM or whatever reduced instruction set they're using for their processor is a step in the right direction, but they'd need to be outperforming an RTX 3090 for anyone who uses a PC(note: literally everyone and their mother uses a PC) to think about switching. can you imagine trying to run solidworks on a mac? how about autocad? how about any program ever? compatibility was trash before, but it's worse than it ever has been with their new processor. Mac's worst feature(you can't run windows programs) just got worse.
@@bobthebuilder609 And I fall into those two specific exceptions you stated. But I also am glad the competition exists. Without Apple, would Windows be more IBM OS/2 Warp? If a single OS/Computer vendor wins, innovation and the consumer looses big time.
@@BootStrapTurnerVideography windows rulz Apple droolz people will never get it. It’s ultimately a preference thing and competition is great. PC laptops are the best looking and best build quality they’ve ever been and it’s because they’re competing against the phenomenal build of a Mac. And everything I do at work and school can be done equally as well on a mac or a pc so I picked Mac laptops because I like how sturdy they are and I like the OS. Did I overpay? Yeah. That’s fine. Also the Apple tax isn’t even that high these days. They report a 38% profit on Macs these days. That’s lower than nvidias profits on their chips.
@@bobthebuilder609 the most clueless comment I have ever Read on ltt 😂 exactly the kind of person Anthony talks about in his video.
@@bobthebuilder609 I'm never touching windows again. Mac life ✌
Omg I’ve been waiting for this video ! Anthony is as always amazing.
I am in love with my 2017 Non-Touchbar 13" MacBook Pro. Bought it off a friend for $200 Canadian Dollars. It's the last upgradable MacBook Pro. It's a huge upgrade from my 2012 ThinkPad T430 lol. I hope to soon upgrade from my 128Gb SSD to at least a 512GB one. I'm always juggling large files and apps, especially Xcode which takes up 30GB after fresh install with nothing cached or any extras downloaded.
Awesome video, as always, Anthony!
If the iMac 32inch doesn’t have all the necessary ports like HDMI,SD card,USB ports and Ethernet on the power brick, while still being properly thermal cooled like the 16inch, we might as well just stick with the MacBook Pro while still using thunderbolt 4 dock
HDMI in an iMac???
@@Yzyenthusiast If the MacBook Pro M1 MAX has that many GPU cores to be fully utilized, why not the IMac Pro as well?
Gaming on Mac would have been further accelerated if they have embraced Vulkan. Hoping that Apple would reconsider this.
They literally have no reason not to. They can easily take away sales from Windows gaming laptops
@@-SP. they can steal sales from Windows Laptops but not really from Windows gaming Laptops
@@-SP. "easily" is a straight up lie. no one is switching from pc to mac for gaming anytime soon lul. Linux can't even get anyone to switch to it, and linux is free as hell.
@@bobthebuilder609 Because people don't want to deal with Linux, just look at Linus, even someone like him is having issues with it. These MacBooks have significantly better battery life than any Windows gaming laptop. That alone would be a good enough reason for many people to switch.
@@-SP. The whole concept of gaming on the Mac is still years behind, Doesn't matter how good they make a Mac it won't have anywhere near the support as windows.. And that is a solid reason why gamers won't move to a mac lol
Got 16inch 2 weeks ago - amazing work machine
Anthony has a really pleasant voice and delivery. Kudos, mi amigo
I wonder, are Linus and Luke going for a Mac switch after they are done with Linux? I'd be interested in their take on the Mac OS and how it stacks up to Linux and Windows.
I remeber they had done it in a specific way a long time ago.
At least, Linus had
Well you just can’t game on a MacBook so a lot of what they did in the series wouldn’t work anyways. Only option would be to use GeForce Now but that’s not an option for competitive shooters for example (anno on the other hand should run just fine)
I did exactly that in 2007. OS X at the time and now macOS is the largest installed base of certified UNIX. It's a very comfortable environment for Linux fans, but with a vastly better multimedia experience. I still opt for Linux on server installations when my clients give me the opportunity.
@@TraneFrancks Nobody really cares about certified UNIX anymore though. It was somewhat of a big deal back in the early 2000s when Linux wasn't really there yet. But these days Linux is king so "certified UNIX" means nothing. I have to agree that back then, a Mac was the best middle ground between Linux-based development (if you're dealing with code that runs on servers at all). On Windows you had Cygwin and that just absolutely sucked.
However, things have changed. If you really care about writing code that runs on Linux hosts, but you don't want to run a Linux desktop: Windows is the place to be. With WSL2 you're actually running a full Linux kernel and everything that comes with it. You no longer have to hunt down Mac versions of packages or deal with slight incompatibilities. You just get the exact same version of the stuff you'd deploy on the actual server. It's literally identical. And with the great integration with Docker on Windows and VS Code, it's just an absolute pleasure to be able to develop in a true Linux environment by day, and just launch whatever game you want by night, on the same machine.
Not that a Mac isn't a good development platform. It's also a good choice. I'm just saying that Windows has overtaken Mac in compatibility for Linux-based developers. But there is more to a dev machine than that of course. The battery life and trackpad are still reasons why a Mac could still be the better option.
I would love to have seen some more info on compile and build times. Especially for Android apps as those tend to be the great equalizer.
I’ve been doing some developer focused deep dives into these machines on my channel and so far I’m seeing improvements overall. However, Android specifically still struggles due to compatibility and setup difficulties, especially confusion around what JDKs to use with apple silicon
In my workplace. We use Mac M1 14” for development. We use docker to build our images and push them to the cloud. Compared to my Lenovo legion with Ryzen 4800H. The legion outperform the M1 like 2 - 3x faster using windows environment. Same RAM capacity 16GB and it is much cheaper if you don’t mind the mobility.
Also we struggle with compatibility issues in M1 Mac. Rosetta is garbage if you emulate x86_64. Better to use WSL2 windows subsystem for Linux
@@splendidpolo Aren't there issues with docker or certain build tasks not being optimised for M1 yet?
@@someonespotatohmm9513 yes. Some of the extensions we use with Postgres doesn’t work in M1 chip. Issues related to QEMU emulation. Some of projects we have just fail to run or hang up without a trace or reason.
Your presentation is terrific.... Highly engaging and very clear. Thanks.
Congrats Anthony you're a great host and another excelent video👏
I’ve get to use the new 16” at my new internship. It’s heavy, but I don’t notice the notch with how much screen realestate I have. I keep my menu bar because of the notch, and it does help with checking the time and such. Love the size of the trackpad and I quickly adapted to the keyboard. I’m actually tempted to upgrade my personal 2014 MacBook Pro to another Mac given my experience. The only issue I have is if I still need x86 applications and can’t remote into my windows pc. For the past 3 years I had been looking seriously at leaving the Apple ecosystem, at least for my laptop. Now, we’ll see…
nais internship
dang what kind of internship do you have? gotta get me the same one lol
@@Yengkoi development intern at a younger high frequency trading firm, gl with your search
@@Arcticstar0 did you decide to leave the apple ecosystem with your laptop?
Video suggestion: 16" M1 Max on water (14, too) . M1 clearly is a capability vs heat output setup. Tear down that Mac, take off the fan heatsink, strap on a watercooler (or giant Noctua) and benchmark that thing sans bottom panel. Or to go simple, just water cool the heat pipe area. Or point an air conditioner at the heat pipes. It's wide open, would love to see if the Macs will run any faster.
but why? just wait for the new desktop M1 Pro/Max machines for that. These are laptops :D
@@JethroRose why? This is Linus Tech Tips, where brilliant engineers are hired to do questionable things (looking at you Alex).
@@JethroRose we don't do things because we should, we do them because we CAN. Like those guys making dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. I only saw the first half of the movie, but I'm sure it all worked out.
I could be wrong but didn't I see somewhere where apple dumped a bunch of money into implementing chassis intrusion detection systems so the laptop can't be run without the case being completely together?
um. or... manually crank up the fans to 100% .
Great video though I really hope you guys revisit these benchmarks, especially 3D graphics and gaming when there is a wide variety of native apple silicone software available. These machines have a lot more power on the table just waiting to be unlocked.
I think moving the taskbar to be at the top around the notch, and having it always be there even in full screen with the bigger model would be a great move
Please make a test unplugged and make a test with high performance mode enabled on the 16 inch model.
Unplugged performance is exactly the same on these laptops
@@Kelson01 i know, but the zephyrus would definitely have a much worse score
"You'd be surprised how much difference 2 inches can make" - Anthony 2021
lolololololol That was well played.
Very good video. Much more fair than one a couple weeks ago. Anthony, you are enjoyable to watch though and make a great video. Mac Users have learned to hate fan noise. Apple may have become a little carried away with limiting fan noise on some of these MacBook. But, overall a good showing.
Since I got my 24 core M1 Max 16 inch..the 10-20 min 4K videos I do have been an insult to its power...the fans have never started up even once since I got it...Max temp I got was like 62C on 1 core
Why not test WoW at 4K max settings? It is well optimized for Apple Silicon, so it can demonstrate how it would perform at its best vs a dedicated GPU
Not really the best game to benchmark with considering it is an MMO and performance can vary wildly depending on where you are. I believe Baulder's Gate 3 is native to Apple Silicon, however
Gotta love the Zephyrus M16 with just a middling 3060 humility check again 🤣👍
Thanks for the monthly Anthony dose; mate always brightens up my day :)
I like this presenter the most. He always has thoughtful commentary. My laptop is an old Mac, and unlike with desktops, where Apple basically abandoned power users, their portable products are still good, and that ecosystem does have real value (my gaming rig does not sink with my iPhone very well). I will probably not test apply silicon for a few years until affordable used products come along, but it looks like they are going the right way.
I am now most interested in RISC5. That should be interesting.
we could all do a lot with 2 extra inches 😔
3*😔
I walked into a Linus tech tips office and asked for multiple entendre…. So they gave it to me
Wise words closing the video. Kudos go (again) to Anthony...
Great review Anthony!
Saying that the new macs shine in only video editing is so far from the truth, I upgraded from the i9 16 inch to 16inch M1 Max and among other things being faster, my software compiles at least 2x faster and the fan never even turns on and the whole laptop is completely cool to the touch.
Yeah, I'm honestly baffled that LTT left out software compilation and ML benchmarks. Seems obvious?
I love these new macbooks. Good build quality, amazing screen and speakers, great battery and fast. Might not be the fastest for the price, but if speed was all you cared about, you'd be buying a desktop PC, anyway. Not a notebook.
So yeah, these are great products. Only thing that's missing for me is gaming, but I bet lighter titles can be emulated, anyway. I'm sure it can run things like Civ and other grand strategy games so that's already a big part of PC gaming that can't be done on a console... For anything more demanding than that, consoles or a desktop PC will do the job.
Yeah i think the thing with Apple computers is that price per spec doesn't really tell the whole story. Like Anthony kind of pointed out, yes you pay a premium, but what you get rather than the FASTEST CPU and GPU are a CPU/GPU that are fairly close to that, while being drastically more efficient, best in class screen, sound, and Apple ecosystem/software benefits. Not everyone prefers that obviously, and rightfully so, but i feel like calling it overpriced or "more expensive for what you get" is just not accurate because it ignores all the non-CPU/non-GPU intangibles. The only part of these Macs i'd say is really truly overpriced are those ABSURD SSD upgrade prices.
@@VMYeahVN It used to be a tough pill to swallow in the pre M1 era. If you think about it, with the shitty intel chips and amd gpu, they are directly competing with the windows machine counterpart, while being more expensive and having less performance most of the time, not to mention the butt load of problems with the stupid thin old chassis like the keyboard, heat and the display ribbon issue. The M1 is the most significant and here I say it, innovative thing apple has done for years. Along with the new chassis, they are truly a unique product in the premium thin-and-light market now, instead of just being "the same, but worse," like they used to. No one in the windows side can have this kind of efficiency while packing this kind of performance when needed (I think).
Oh yeah, as a dev/designer/photographer the 16" Max has completely changed my workflow overnight. It's faster than my gaming rig from 2014 without breaking a sweat. The real killer feature is that 30 minutes of charging can sustain me for most of my work day.
Can't wait to try the new Blender alpha on this thing.
Edit: and yeah I've been playing Cities: Skylines on this thing and it's great. So far I got a >30k population city without slowdowns.
I would love to see more LTT testing surrounding audio production, obviously in non Apple native programs. Most Mac channels reference Logic Pro only, where Pro Tools or others are the true professional reference and what most of us are (attempting) to run on these M1 Pro/Max computers. It’s great to know what Apple can do in their own Logic or Final Cut, but data on PT and Premier etc. really give insight into what professional users can expect if they purchase now. Thanks for all you do!
I agree, i would love to see how these laptops handle FL Studio as well. To your point, i have seen some videos show Premiere on these systems, it's better but still not great. Largely because Adobe is bad at optimization (which was already the case pre-M1 series chips) haha).
Great couple videos for the M1 pro and max series.
12:19 I'm quite disappointed of how much you skimmed over this groundbreaking battery endurance. It's a proper truly mobile and wireless workstation.
It's been covered in the original MacBook Pro review
A laptop cannot be called a laptop when it has to be plugged in all the time, it becomes a desktop. RTX 3080 laptops will drain their 80% battery in 30 minutes if unplugged and high performance mode.
Winner: Apple
no one gives a shit. a 3080 laptop will give amazing performance when needed unlike your apple. you dont always have to game on it.
@@abhidahiya4007 except for gaming there’s not much reason to get a 3080 laptop
Anthony talking to me like this is EXACTLY what I needed!
Would love to see how all these numbers look when all the macs and that pc are not charging when you run benchmarks.
I think you all should add the zephyrus had to be plugged in the benchmarks.
Apple is still the best performing laptop on battery in comparison to everyone else
I’m a fan of ltt but three videos in and it hasnt even been mentioned. I dont know what to make of that
This absolutely should be disclosed.
@@joeluaje5389 I forgot who's video it is, but they mentioned it and it's CRAZY how the MacBooks behave nearly exactly like how it would if plugged in
I wish my wife would do more with 6”
She'd do more with me 😂😂 jk jk jk my dude
I think this was the best video intro ever. Priceless and Legendary! 😂
It would be great to see how the new macs perform on ML tasks.
I was honestly shocked with the M1 Max's performance. Until anthony mentioned the M16 has a 3060
Didn't Apple claim that their GPU is faster than a 3080? Again a lie? If a 3060 notebook GPU outperforms it in most cases?
@@buffysummers2320 The M1 max does match the 100W 3080 in a razer blade.....When fully optimized, metal, native apple arm and taking full advantage of their unified memory architecture....the software industry has been built around Intel/Nvidia/AMD for 2 decades now....give it time, we are seeing continuous massive improvements from many different software as developers optimize....by the M3 Pro/Max it should be mostly worked out.
Also the M1 max gpu uses 40 to 45 watts max....Many gaming laptops, like the zephyrus m16 use literally double that, 80 to 90W for it's 3060.....and it can't maintain that power unplugged, while the MacBook performance doesn't change on battery.
If Apple wanted they could have shoved 64 gpu cores at 80 to 90 watts instead of 32 cores at 40 to 45 watts, it would match the most powerful laptops even without optimization, the problem is that the 64 core macbook will now start acting like windows laptops, hot, loud and moderately reduced performance on battery.
Im definitely excited for the future of Apple Silicon.
@@kninezbanks keep lying to yourself. lol
@@abhidahiya4007 he ain't lying. you need to plug that 3080 laptop in the wall for it to really beat the m1 max, which defeats the entire purpose of having a laptop. also metal optimizations are still work in progress, blender is in alpha for instance and doesn't even support gpu acceleration on apple silicon macs yet. once this transition is fully complete, apple is going to be miles ahead of the pc laptops, i mean they already are. i much rather use a laptop with 10 hours+ battery life than a laptop that needs to get charged every 3 hours. not to mention with apple silicon macs I get full performance whether on charger or not, not so with windows laptops.
Anthony, are you enabling performance mode on these machines? Or is there a reason it’s being avoided?
I was wondering as well
I presume they want to give an overview of how the average user will experience it. I would love a follow up video with maxed out fans tho
@@huib9400 the normal users probably are just power users😅 buying that Mac just for word and surfing is wrong. It’s a work machine
loved the video and the conclusions at the end!
Nice video but I would have loved to see comparisons showing performances between plugged and battery power only.
And with optimised software (not emulators using old graphical libraries, or games going through a translation layer)
I know there aren't ton of software fully optimised that also exist on both platforms but there are some...
- World of warcraft (Battery or Plugged)
- Blender alpha (the M1 optimised) (Battery or Plugged)
- Longevity under full load (with performances measures) => Seeing how each laptop hold with benchmarks on a loop, and what the bench number differences are between plugged and on Battery power.
This feels like half the story after a long long wait.