ASUS Zephyrus M16 (2023) - The Small Details!
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2023
- Review of the 2023 ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 with an I9-13900H and a NVIDIA RTX 4070. Make sure to like and subscribe if you enjoyed the video!
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Dude you're amazing.. you actually pick up the skus to review that people are actually gonna buy/afford. Everyone just picks up the i9 4090 mini led ultra pro max... thanks a ton mate 👏
You're welcome!
True bro, very true. It's becuz Matthew cares for us the avg consumer unlike other useless fancy shows
I mean like, why would you choose the lowest/medium spec device if you really want to test the device's limits.
Testing/reviewing the highest spec model allows the reviewer to push the device to its limits while testing, to see if it or it doesn't hold up (for example: if an i9, RTX 4090 machine can easily handle thermals, the same can be said for it's lower spec counterparts since lower end GPUs and CPUs have lower power limits). It's really just the nest thing to do. 🤓
@@user-dd9pv9pv9p do you drive at 300mph? Your tyres have been tested for that but people whose cars are gonna use those tyres wouldn't do that limit. A testing at the limit is necessary to ensure safety but a tyre that performs well at 300 may not perform well at 30. Most people are gonna find the 30 metric useful rather than the 300 and a reviewer's primary focus should be narrating their experience to the people at 30 not 300 because the 300 is the more of a job of the manufacturer to ensure safety and highest standards. Yes someone will do 300 but its not everyone and I'm not saying a reviewer shouldn't test 300, they should for the minority but its the 30 that really matters.
@@beingcreative9503 Cars aren't laptops but I do like your argument.
Thanks for the review! After a month of forcing myself to use the ROG M16 2023, I've returned it back to the store due to the left USB Type-C port not working at all. It all started after BIOS & Windows updates. I've tried to re-flash BIOS, and uninstalled/re-installed drivers for the Root USB hub, but no luck. Hope that it will be fixed in the later update, but I'm back to using my trustworthy Macbook Pro 16.
Had to sub. So hard to find reviews for some of the models I’m looking at buying, and you cover everything I care about. Thank you.
Great work .. actually going for a model that most of the mass is gonna go for . Great work man . Is the chassis can handle 4070 so will 4060 .
An AMD model that is slightly slower but could hit 10h battery would be a great addition to the lineup.
Excellent review as always, you always quickly cover the things that actually matter. A shame that you didn't experience the Mini-LED screen though. I recently got the Scar 16 and the screen looks absolutely beautiful (although I do notice some black crushing in HDR).
I've experienced enough mini-led displays = ) But I feel like this specific model is in line with a majority of more people due to budget
I’ve spent the past couple of days looking at a ton of gaming laptops and everything I’ve seen so far basically screams this one is for me. There’s not too much going on but it’s not so lacking it’s bad, it’s running about the same price as other laptops with 4060s and 4050s I’ve seen with similar displays, and I’m pretty happy with this decision. Going to be picking mine up tomorrow hopefully 🤞
I want to see manufacturers switch to 16GB as base RAM capacity, and start offering 32GB options on most mid to high end laptops. If you get a high end CPU like an i7 or i9, you should be enabled to use it to its potential, and RAM capacity can be a serious bottleneck.
This one lets you upgrade your ram
I was going to buy this model with the 4070 but I’m concerned with the limited vram of 8gb. Is it that important if I plan to use this computer for 5 plus years and should I go for the 4080 model instead?
In which mode did you run the performance tests? Was it Performance or Turbo mode?
I'm thinking of upgrading from the 3070 Zephyrus g15 with the r9 5900hs to this laptop, do you think the performance upgrade is worth it? and are there any better alternatives?
Comparing the m16 and g16(QHD model) solely of the battery with actual use will the battery be as much differences in your opinion?
Might have missed it but how long is the battery life?
Hey Matthew, any suggestions on RAM replacements cards for this machine especifícally for gaming? Suggestions on WIFIcard as well please! Cheers ty!
Hello friends
Thank you for your detailed and concise review
I am in doubt between this laptop and Lenovo Legion Slim 7i 2023 which one to buy, what do you suggest?
Great video on this laptop. Do you know what the specs are on SSD drives in either slot. I want to change main OS ssd to a 2 tb and maybe a 2tb or more on optional ssd slot. Can not find this info on Asus site . Thanks
Hey, thanks Matthew. Your videos are really amazing. I just now bought m16 2022 model (M16 16"165Hz Gaming Laptop-Intel Core i9-16GB DDR5 Memory-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti-1TB) for 990$ . Really enjoying it .
In my country there is a very similar laptop but has ddr4 memory instaed of ddr5, is it a big change or will they perform the same
Hey there amazing vid. Just wondering but will you review the 2023 rog flow x16?
Excellent laptop I need an opinion, what do you think between the ASUS M16, the LENOVO LEGION SLIM and the new HP OMEN which would be your preference as a good laptop
Not sure if the stacked second SSD on top of the wireless card is a good idea, two heat generating components stacked may not help with heat dissipation. But it could be just me overthinking.
Whats the difference between the m16 with the I9-12900 rtx 3070ti and i originally had 16gb ram but now its 40GB
I got the same one, compact, black all over with no lights, looks very elegant, buy a sleev protector so it dont scratch, i am being a asus user for 10 years that's my old laptop is and still working but i want it something new.
I bought one of these about a year ago and my S and D keys are both busted. Really hard to find a place to replace them and I'm waiting for aliexpress to see if I'll be able to replace them. Keys break really easily if you game.
great video, helped me decide to pull the trigger on this. Got a new job and am traveling a lot, picked this up at Best Buy for $1500 (4070 + IPS screen version). Getting the AX210 wifi card, throwing a 2TB m.2 in there and adding another 16gb DDR5 stick. Great laptop so far !
Glad I could help and more importantly let me know how you like it when you get it in!
Not sure if single vs dual channel makes as big a difference for 13th gen vs previous, but the single stick of ram could partly explain the less-than-expected performance jump as well as the quieter fans.
a single stick of DDR5 ram is doesn’t suffer as much of a performance drop compared to DDR4
A single stick ddr5 gives an equivalent performance compared to a dual channel ddr4, as a single stick ddr5 Ram has a dual channel layout that supports two channels per DIMM slot. That is a single ddr5 slot contains 2 channels , or you can say that there are 2 channels per stick. So 2 ddr5 sticks doesn't make any difference and is the same as 4 ddr4 rams.
The right thinking @gliffordbacch4621. I added another stick to my 2023 M16 and saw a near 3000 point increase just on the Timespy CPU score. It allows the 13900H to really stretch its legs. Effectively running in “Quad-Channel”. It’s amazing!
I just got the Alienware M16 i9 4080 240hz. I am considering switching to this one. Please advise if this one is better or Alienware m16 :(
Great review as always, Matt!
Thanks for the review Matt! Always a trust worthy source when it comes to this stuff.
This is the exact laptop I own and use has my daily driver. With NVidia Optimus turned on, I notice a massive performance boost when compared to ASUS Armoury Crate.
CODMW2, with minimal game tweaking, I get around 110-120FPS. Same with Halo.
Great laptop, I owned the 3070ti variation and agree, it's not a MASSIVE leap.
I have it too! Every AAA game I have runs smooth like butter at ultra or near ultra except I can't seem to tweak cyberpunk or Witcher 3 in such a way where it looks better than my PS5 or Xbox series X. Any suggestions?
Are you using Optimus or armoury crate? Are you using an external monitor?
I've opened Armory crate maybe once but to my recollection I never actually modify anything. However when I click on a game I'll get a notification at the bottom right that says it's been switched to Optimist. I think you said that one was the better of the two, right?
@@ShawnShaman if you have any tips on spec settings to set for Witcher 3 to get it looking better than consoles that would be great. With Ray tracing. I feel like when I turn on fsr 2 or whatever, the framerate is good but everything was pretty terrible
what is the game tweaking you do in mw2 to boost fps? Im an xbox playes and either way will experience much more fps
The laptop presented vs Mac Pro book 16 1TB - MPRO 2 chip. Which one would be better?
I am confused. On the spec sheet it says it has mini led display on the 4070 model as well. But in the review here its mentioned as an LCD screen.
Anyone know why this has 6h of battery life vs 10h with the G16? They seem to have the same CPU and display?
I am currently on Inspiron 5577 with geforce gtx 1050 M which is 6 years old and this laptop caught my eyes; even though I am looking for a new laptop, I want one with a good gpu and I have a budget of around 1700$ usd. if you have any other laptops to suggest as well please feel free to share.
I just got this laptop brand new and it has a heating issue where it raises up to 94 degree ms Fahrenheit, is there a fix for this?
What is the difference between G15 and M16 ? Other than screen aspect ratio.
I returned my RB16 because it was insanely buggy and got this with the 4080 and its awesome! Very happy with it! Reinstalled it and is only using Ghelper now. Have about 9 hours battery life, (8-12w discharge) which is insane for this kind of power.
I drive dual ultrawide at 3440x1440 with and it works great. The mLED screen is kind of hit and miss though. Prefer 1 zone backlight in most cases.
One weird thing that happened was, after I replaced the SSD the computer refused to start until I put it on AC power. Strange.
How come you getting 9 hours of battery life. Which settings do you enable from the Asus Armory Crate and Windows? Thanks
@@mariozamora9684 I dont use armoury crate, only G helper. If you go Eco mode, silent, 60hz, battery saver and multizone it is possible to get that. Right now I am on 87% and Windows report 8h 4m.
Would this be a good laptop for programming
I've had very good luck with ASUS products over the years (motherboards, monitors, and computers). A few years ago I picked up an S15 VivoBook and have never had a problem with it, so I'd feel confident getting an M16.
That's awesome! Glad you had good experiences. I have had a flawless experience with their motherboards. Haven't had one fail on me for over 20 years of building computers.
@@MatthewMoniz that's nice to hear. recently got a tuf dash f15 2022( not a bad deal where i live and what i required) and a month into use keycaps came off and charger pin bent. These things though can be fixed under warranty but stuff like motherboards dying is scary. So I hope this laptop lasts me for at least a 4-5 years
I guess your experience is complete 180 for me.. got a rog laptop 3 years ago, mainly just for graphic design stuff and job. It gave up to me and their aftersales service ask me to replace the motherboard with 2/3 of its initial price when i bought it. Never gonna use asus again (for me)
@@agumon1605 I have had issues with their laptops but then again with every pc vendors laptops. It’s pretty a qc lottery no matter what gaming laptop you pick
I just picked up the 4080 version with mini LED and really like it overall. I am however getting issues where I'm booting into a black screen if power is plugged in upon startup. Once I get that sorted out I think I'll be very happy with it.
You know what now that you mention it I think that happened to me once as well with the M16 when I was reviewing it. Had to full power down and power back on. Ill see if I can replicate it again.
@@MatthewMoniz I've also noticed the screen quickly going blank for a fraction of a second periodically. I think it only happens in the Armor Crate software. It doesn't seem linked to anything I'm selecting when it happens.
@@johnwilson7680 that's normal if its switching between Discrete GPU and Integrated
@@MatthewMoniz It sounds like that's what is happening. I'm not sure why it's doing it because I haven't changed the settings and I keep it set to the "Ultimate" mode that I believe should be forcing use of the 4080 at all times. However I've heard Armor Crate is very buggy.
I have the same issue sometimes. I believe the black screen issue is a known Nvidia bug across all laptop manufacturers with 40 series chips right now, related to the Advanced Optimus switching.
Seems like if you were going to compare the two performance wise, would be good to just throw in an additional stick of ram for an apples to apples comparison. Aside from that, thanks for the great review.
Can someone please clear up the max speed the RAM can run at?
On Best Buy’s website, the QA section shows both 4800. MHz max and 5600 MHz max.
I would assume since it’s an i9 it could support 5600, but I can’t get a definitive answer. Please help so I can order the ram upgrade soon.
would you recommend me the zephyrus 14” with the ryzen 9 and 4060 or this one right there, I dont really mind about the screen size but the fan noise and the performance in general, I really need help deciding :(
What did you end up going with?
I just upgraded today. It was $450 off at Best Buy so it was kind of a no-brainer for me. I've been using a 2020 G14 since it launched and I really needed more screen real estate as I'm starting to work on bigger projects in my engineering classes, plus the extra performance will be a big time save. So far I really like it! The only thing I'm not thrilled about is the system responsiveness on battery. It feels great when plugged in but it really slows down once it's unplugged.
How bad is the performance on battery, im planning to get this soon
@@theawesomeking5513 I've only had a couple days with it so I still don't have a final answer, but overall it's very good. I think I was expecting something that's just not possible on a Windows laptop in terms of responsiveness on battery. Also, I think there were a lot of background processes going on the first day or two as things were updating and syncing. Windows update had over 60 updates, not including everything from Microsoft Store, MyASUS, and Armoury Crate. If you switch to Performance mode, you get all of that performance back at the expense of fan noise and battery life. It's not an issue exclusive to this laptop, it's just the way things are if you want a high-performance Windows machine. I haven't run into an instance where I need more raw processing power, rather the responsiveness of clicking around isn't quite as snappy as it is plugged in. I think most of what I was feeling was the drop from 240Hz to 60Hz as a power saving measure. Even with that, it's still faster than my G14 even while in Silent mode. Overall, I HIGHLY recommend if you can get it on sale. I don't think you can find a more complete package in any other laptop.
I bought the 4090 version of this about a month ago and I love it overall.
Same here, I'm very happy.
I would’ve really considered if they made it less eco focused and used a powerful wattage on the gpu.
Thats the thing about 4000 series, more watts does not translate to significant performance, and the 150w tgp 4090 is more than enough in this chassis
Hows the battery life
How's the overall experience? Heard asus doesn't have the best drivers
Good review, 4080 may not be much faster but may be more future proof due to the higher VRAM.
Just bought this laptop and you are right I got it for 1599 from best buy. At that price it is a value, at retail 2200 is not something I would spend on this laptop. I am replacing a I7 laptop with a 3060 geforce, and this is a better laptop for 200 bucks more than I spent on the last laptop. It is quieter, when I need it to be it is louder and better performing than the last laptop when I am gaming. It is a good value at 1599.
What is better Asus Zephyrus M16 or MSI Stealth 15 i9 13900?
Would there be a cheaper i7 13th Gen/4060 model of this?? Couldn’t see one in Best Buy.
Great review
The upgraded Camera and microphone sound really really good for this kind of laptop!
I wanted to get an M16 with an anime matrix but I domt know If the model they are selling for me has it,or do all M16 have an anime matrix
Ahhh just realized that this laptop (from the factory) is running the 16gb of RAM in single channel. You should see an average of 22% to 38% better performance just by adding the 2nd stick of RAM in the empty slot. Now I understand why the benchmarks where not that impressive over the 12th gen and this will only perform better once that 2nd stick is installed. Thanks for the great video my man! Appreciate it as always
Are they going backward? Why did they remove the changing color on the lid that makes it unique to M16.
That just looks the older version of Zephyrus G14/G15
Thinking about taking back my G14 for the higher M16z I would also go from 4060 to 4060 and from a Ryzen 9 or i9
anybody know if the laptop 4060 variant is as bad as the desktop counter part? thanks.
Hello, can you make a full review of this laptop?
Picked up the M16 2023 about a week ago. I pulled out the one 16gb stick and installed two 32gb sticks and an additional 2 TB SSD. Was already a screamer but man! Love this machine so far.
Great video, thank you so much. My problem is I can't decide if I should go for this model or the 2022 that is nearly $500 less right now? For my use, I would not benefit from the newer CPU or graphics card. Hmmm....decisions...decisions....
Which one did you buyed?
I wish it came with an i7h processor for maybe $100 or so less since the i9 in this really performs like an i7. It seems only the hx processor got the real bump in performance in this latest gen from intel. Nonetheless, i've certainly seen worse laptops for $2k. This one isn't bad. On a sale, I think it would be a worthy choice. It's not for me, but I can see many people choosing this one.
Will you be doing the proart studiobook pro 16 oled 2023? I'm really thinking about getting one for both gaming and creating, but am not sure about its real performance and its size.
I recently bought ASUS ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED 2023, it came with a defective oled panel, the screen door effect is noticeable, it is as if the screen had a very fine mesh overlay , which looks tiny points, like a very thin screen door is very annoying and defective.
Man love your reviews. Also definitely agree with you that the previous years model is a better deal
Thank you so much
So I was looking at this unit and in Bestbuy it states the gpu uses about 100 W and 120 in Boost.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6 Graphics
All new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6 with ROG Boost at 100W (120W with Dynamic Boost 2.0) for an ultrafast GPU to fuel your games.
Here in the eu there is an m16 RTX 4070 variant that come with the mini LED display but it costs around 3.3K Euros lmao. Makes me wonder if it's just worth it to have an american friend get an IPS + 4070 for 2k USD or even a mini LED + 4080 for about 2.7k USD from bestbuy.
Australian RTX4070 list a mini led screen , I will be checking with Asus before I decide to buy one , I'm happy to pay extra for the screen ,$4200 aud at the moment
Removing the rg45 makes the profile of the laptop unified which is way cooler than having pumps and creases, the only design flow right now is the little outdent beneath the power cable, so yeah I will take a nicer profile than some ports that my my laptop ugly
How good would you say this laptop is for things like software development(and some gaming of course)? I’m heading to college next year and I want to be able to have something light, performant, and long lasting, and this laptop along with the zenbook pro 14 oled, and the zephyrus g14, have been on my radar
Did you ever figure out the answer? I'm curious for the same reasons.
@@reverenddick8562 Well, I kinda had to do the research on my own but realistically it really depends on your usage needs. If you plan on doing engineering in college then something with like some of the new ryzen laptop processors and maybe an RTX 4070 at best(you really do not need more than that) will get the job done pretty nicely.
@@keyboardwarrior4092 thanks.
Just got one for $1400 before tax! This is my first PC, and wanted a laptop since I travel a lot for work. I plan to do gaming, photo and video editings, and logo/ merchandising and of course schooling.
Wow bro send me the link of where you bought it from
What is a glass touchpad vs a haptic feedback one?
both use a glass surface but haptic uses a vibration motor that mimics a press or click from your finger while a non-haptic touchpad has a spring mechanism that actually moves.
Id like to buy the new one but sadly 4050 and 4060 versions don’t seem to be available yet / or in Europe. Only the high end expensive versions.
It's scoring lower than last year model because of single channel ram. As you put 2 stick there's a huge increase in performance.
I really need companies to make a Ryzen laptop that can be portable and has a bigger screen. For me, a 14" screen is too small but bigger laptops dont have ryzen or either dont come cheap, or are not as portable. I would peak out at 1.9-2kg for the weight, and $1600 for the price. Can't even find the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 pro 16" yet. Hope that comes out and with an option of more than 4050.
Is the palm rest still use soft-touch coating as last year model ?
Yes same coating
Excellent review...thanks for the details
You’re very welcome !
So only one type c port goes to the GPU??
Does the 4070 Model come with the AniMe Matrix lighting on the front?
It does not.
Hey Matt I just discovered your channel recently and it's been a joy to watch! Any recommendations for me? I'm looking for a 14" notebook that's slim, cool, quiet, future proof with an upgradable SSD/nvme/RAM.. some above average graphics for casual gaming.. and great battery life. Oh and not ugly. Am I asking for too much? 👍
I know it doesn't hit all the criteria you listed but your best bet will be the Blade 14 or G14.
@@MatthewMoniz thank you ! If I make the purchase I'll use your link 🤟
@@patricecomedyIf you haven’t pulled the trigger yet.. the G14 with 4060 goes on sale at Best Buy for $1,249 frequently. The 4070 G14 (also has a 1tb ssd) is $1,599 at this exact moment!
How does this compare to an xps 17?
Does the hot air blown on screen makes some problem?
They have used this design across the majority of their lineup for years and it has not become a known issue so you will be okay.
Is $1500 good price for this? If i hook it upto 4k tv, can it run games in 4k (minimum 60fps, high setting)?
With a good mix of medium to high settings I would say absolutely!
Please Please Please reply!!!!! Dell XPS 15 (2023) Or Asus ROG Zephyrus M16 (2023), same config in both (intel 13700, 4060/4070, 16G/512G). I am upgrading from 10 years old laptop.
M16!
Great Video. What about laptop, hope next year they will have Mini LED screens for 4060 versions, in 2023 every manufacturer discriminates budget customers
Just bought mine today. So far so good. Added a 16 gb ram and 1 tb ssd. I thought the bottom pad in the back with the engraved “for those that dare” were lights like the keyboard lol
Does this have back screen matrix display
@@becrazy586 mine does not have the matrix display.
Great review as always.
I have the 4080 with 32gb and mini led display. A great laptop.
85fps with the build in benchmark of Cyberpunk 2077, 1600p, RT balance, Dlss balance.
However, 3dmark not exceptional with 15700 in Time Spy and in Turbo mode the fans are simply too loud.
What do you expect from slim laptop? 4080/4090 in these laptops are just waste of money
@@mk3tsi well I was comparing with other laptops. I think it is enough to play any games and you can take your machine wherever you go. So I wouldn't say it is a waste of money.
Does this have matrix led display at the back
what's with companies implementing i/o and then taking it out the next year? wish this one had the lan port
Frame Gen isnt worth the upgrade?
Fantastic review. Based on your reviews, I just bought the 4080 version w/ mini LED panel.
How price?
Wich one do you recommend for a student: g16(4070) or m16(4070)?
M16
Between the M16 2023 and the Asus rog strix g16 2023 with 4060 and an i9-13980HX, which would be the better choice?
For gaming the 4070 will give you more fps
Can you do a comparison between the g14 and m16? I’ve been searching the internet for one but could not find a review that’s good enough. I’m looking to get one for school, would be great if you could make this video. Thanks!
Man I am in the same boat right now. Both on sale to .... $1500 vs $1149
@@adrXpdza fr but for m16 u get 4070 and more storage ig
i still haven’t decided but i’ll pick one before the sale ends
@@Rimuruwu I ended up going for the g14 for 1099 today. Viewed different reviews and went to see them in person. The price difference for the m16 4070 currently at $1500 didn’t catch my attention much considering they both have 8gb of VRAM and within videos I really didn’t see a big difference in fps. I also read that g14 is way better in power efficiency when not gaming. Also it is very light and compact Compared to the m16. fans are way louder on the m16. Idk if anyone else has any input for either laptop but 1099 I think this is a very good deal. So far I ran read dead 2 on ultra in native 2k without dlss and I get avg of 55fps with dlss on balanced 80ish. Ready or not on ultra with dlss 100fps avg. And the outlast trails around 100fps max. On 1080 it went up to almost the displays max at 160fps avg. Other then that the display is pretty nice compared to other laptops with 4060’s at this price point. The sound is also great if you change the Dolby settings to auto vs the standard mode it comes in. Also the laptop has been very fast and snappy and Ummmm lastly I upgraded it easily to a 2tb ssd (gonna have to reinstall drivers and windows or clone it to the new drive) and added an extra Corsair’s 16gb of ram to bring it up to 32gb. 2tb WD SN850x for $130. And the ram was a 16gb laptop vengeance 4800MHz stick for $45
That webcam is CRISP
I love this laptop! Runs Starfield perfectly! Better than the xbox series x. I added an additional 16Gb of ram to mine.
Desperately waiting for flow x16 2023 review. Please🙏
I have a 2022 g14 i like it but the small size causes loud fan noises and i would like a bigger screen so i might pick this up with a good sale
I have a G1 14 2021 and I really hope the 2022 model was so much better because the 2021 uses a proprietary charger and it also gets very very hot! I think mine has finally died but I’m not sure because I don’t have a charger to test it
Pls compare it to the new g16 love ur vids
First time saw someone recommending 4070 over the higher ones, and I am glad about it. Honestly 4070 is the card most people will want to have for their needs, it just performs to a plenty level and isn't deficient unless you are adamant at comparing it to the covetous 4080 & 90. Not only they are expensive but also overkill for an average gamer who is not fanatic about every single atom of performance. 4070 just meets the requirments to play scenic AAA games at QHD+ max settings(RT) at a fine fps of 60 with DLSS3 and Frame Gen that are a god send! Please❤like if you agree and spread the word to all those who have been reluctant to admit that they want a 4070 and they shall fear not just becuz some rich, nerdy youtubers pass a judgement on probably the most proper graphic card to have on a portable laptop!
Not everyone plays fortnite
When are they going to make the power bricks smaller
True portability should apply to the entire package
This or the new MSI Studio 16 13th Gen i7, 32GB, and 4070 GPU?
The camera is much better and you sound way better than last time.
Super useful thanks!
You're welcome!
“Not seeing a big bump in performance over 12th gen” if Asus laptops with intel are actually in stock at stores, then that alone is a HUGE improvement. I could not find 1 anywhere last November, except 1 or 2 places had them for full blown retail price during black Friday week when I was shopping. So got a Lenovo Slim 7i Pro X with 12700H for like half the prices as the Asus Intel laptops.