Portable Power Station Buying Guide🔌 Watch This Before You Buy!
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- These portable power stations can replace a generator in many cases, but to buy the best one you need to understand their capacity and limitations. The Power Stations I recommend:
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What I am missing here, is the sound advice to over-dimension the capacity (size and weight permitting). You will get a LOT more cycles in using the top 50% of an over-dimensioned powerstation' capacity, than depleting a 'just enough" powerstation every time.
We have used the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
The important stat is amp hours and is not often stated.
Utah Jeff …. Here …. Pretty straight forward on power stations….I might comment that you probably need more than one unit … camping with these is a game changer …. I am in process of purchasing a larger unit with UPS and adjustable fast charging…. Maybe a parallel connection too …..with a 5 year warranty…..still searching!
Hint hint.. EcoFlow.
@@WilliamShakerTech not 100% on EcoFlow yet…. When you have an extremely fast charge you create a lot of heat…. Heat is the one thing that shortens battery cell life. Having already experienced that with another brand of power station…. And the “ no real service “ warranty I am going to ask a lot more probing questions before I purchase another power station.
I think an interesting topic for portable power stations would be how to use them to maximize their effectiveness and longevity. I'm going to be doing some extended trips living out of my 4Runner - mostly I will be tent camping but if I'm only going to be in a spot for a night or two I will probably sleep in the back of the vehicle so I don't have to set up and take down the tent. I have just purchased a Jackery 1000 Pro and an Iceco VL 45 refrigerator/freezer (it is one compartment and can be either a refrigerator or freezer depending on where you set the temperature; I'll use it a refrigerator) that I will have in the vehicle with me when I travel. I have a 2 month trip to Colorado, Utah and Arizona planned for later this year.
The Jackery 1000 Pro ($1100) has a couple of significant improvements versus the regular 1000, and they were the 2 most critical deficiencies in the previous Jackery 1000 that needed to be addressed in my opinion. The number of full charges the Pro is rated for has doubled from 500 to 1000, and it fully charges from 0 to 100% on a 110 AC outlet in 2 hours, down from 7 hours. I fully charged my Jackery 1000 Pro on a wall outlet in a little under 2 hours yesterday.
The question on how to use the Jackery to maximize its longevity is whether to leave it plugged into the 400 volt outlet in my 4Runner whenever the vehicle is running and have the refrigerator plugged into it, so the Jackery is staying fully charged much of the time because it recharges faster than the refrigerator draws energy from it. In that scenario I'd unplug the Jackery when I was done driving for the day and run the refrigerator off the Jackery's stored energy through the night, perhaps dropping from 100% charged to 75% or 50% charged the next time I drove and plugged it back in. But I started thinking about whether a lifespan of 1000 charges to 100% (it is supposed to charge to only 80% or so maximum for some time after that before eventually dying) means charges from 0 to 100%. Does a charge from 80% to 100% constitute a charge just like 0 to 100%? Some manufacturers of laptop computers and cell phones advise against using them while plugged in, or recharging them every night if not needed, because it shortens battery life.
Jackery's owner manual says nothing about this issue, but I found something on their website that says while the Jackery can be used for pass through charging, they advise against it because it shortens battery life. The University of Michigan studied the issue and their conclusion is that lithium-ion batteries are more stressed at 0% and 100% charge levels. They advise minimizing the time spent at 0% and 100% - avoid fully running out a charge and perhaps recharge it only to 80-90% - and if you charge it to 100% unplug it after it fully charges. Based on this I'm thinking I will test to see how long it takes the Iceco refrigerator filled with bottled water to run the Jackery down from 90% or so to 20%. If it's 3 days, that would suggest that I should let the refrigerator run off the unplugged Jackery for 3 days in the vehicle (adjusting for temperature differences which makes the refrigerator run more or less), then plug the Jackery in to power the refrigerator on a pass through basis (or if it's cool enough, maybe recharge the Jackery without having the refrigerator plugged in to the Jackery and letting the refrigerator internal temperature rise a few degrees, depending on how well it holds its temperature. Then when the Jackery charge is back up to 80-90%, unplug it from the outlet and let the refrigerator resume charging off it.
If the Jackery doesn't have to be plugged in all the time when the 4Runner is running, I can use the same vehicle AC outlet to charge camera batteries and my laptop computer while I'm driving. It will be a little more effort to manage keeping everything charged like than just to keep the Jackery plugged in and top off charges of everything else by plugging them into the Jackery while I'm driving - the Jackery 1000 Pro has 3 AC outlets, 2 regular USB and 2 USB-A outlets and since a cooled refrigerator won't draw a lot of energy I could probably charge multiple things off it at the same time.
What are your thoughts on this? It seems like a subject portable power station companies should address more clearly, unless their intention is for customers to keep their units plugged in excessively to shorten their lives and put the customers in the market for a new one faster. It might be an interesting video if you could explain the science and whether or not you agree with what I'm planning to do based on the UM recommendations and the comment by Jackery advising against pass through charging any more than you have to.
I think manufacturers know their products and the manual should be followed. However, most of the time, their figures are on the more conservative side because of warranty, claims etc.
Thku for the excellent video, I am about to buy a portable power supply.
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Anderson power poles, rapidly becoming the 12v standard, would be very useful.
I admit that I'm a power station addict - I have over 30 ranging from a couple small 100wh to 6 2000wh units. I have the EBL 1000wh unit. It's a decent unit at the right price, but my biggest complaint is the high rate of self-discharge. Every other unit I have is on a rotating schedule to be topped off every 8 months - they are still at 90% or better when I check them. The EBL 1000 is on a 3 month rotation and even then it is around 60%, at 6 months it is dead.
Battery chemistry makes a big difference.
@@WilliamShakerTech Yes it does, but my units are about half Lithium Ion and half Lipo4. I also have 6 self made power stations in the 500wh to 1000wh range made with Lithium Ion 18650s. For some reason the EBL 1000 has the worst self-discharge of all my Lithium Ion units whether self made or already finished units. It makes me wonder if EBL is using a lower quality battery. Then again, maybe my unit is just a fluke. I've considered taking it apart just to see and reusing the other parts in another battery. I probably would have already done it except for the fact that other than the self-discharge it works great.
My EBL is not having this issue. Perhaps you have a faulty unit. Btw.. why so many?
@@WilliamShakerTech It's something I slowly got into over the last decade. First project was 400 wts of solar panels and 220 ah lead acid battery back. That grew to 3000 wts of mounted solar and 1760 ah lead acid battery bank. Then I got into adding Lithium Ion power banks and portable solar panels along with building my own power banks with 18650s. As Lipo4 prices came down and I got into those and started adding even more power stations and solar panels. Today I have right at 3500 wts of mounted rigid solar, over 2500 wts. of portable solar, close to 40 total power stations (between the ones I made myself and complete units that I bought) and roughly 2000 ah of lead acid batteries that refuse to die (if they do ever die I will replace those with Lipo4).
My starter setup of the 400 wts of solar and 220 ah batteries are still running the lights in the garage. My wife USED to think I was getting carried away until we went thru a few power outages and we were able to run the house normally - except for the electric range/stove which is a power hog. Once I explained to her that I can keep the house running normally regardless of how long the power stays out she actually asked me what I thought of building a new building in the back and going completely off grid. I'm currently playing around with designs for a 20' x 30' building for the backyard and a big enough solar/battery system to do just that. Who knows - that may be my next project.
In testing different portable power stations, we found that some portable power stations have communication functions, which means that the battery may regularly communicate internally, and this will consume the battery's power, although it is not turned on to use, long-term consumption may cause the portable power station to completely run out of power until it can not be used. We are currently testing a portable power station and trying to reduce the power consumption problem by adding additional operations to allow users to choose when they are not using power, which might be a good finding. If you're interested, you're welcome to talk.
Sorry. i'm a bit late to the thread. Do you know if the batteries can be replaced once they have reached their lifespan?
In South Africa we have daily power outages, so it wont be long before the battery is done.
Also, any idea what size I would need to power a household fridge/freezer?
Thanks for the great video. Really helpful when considering these units.
Just because it has a USB Type C connector doesn't mean it is necessarily better than the USB 2.0 ports that some of these ship with. Type C is just a connector.
What would you recommend for blackouts? I'm interested in a unit that would keep wi-fi and possibly a TV going for a few hours easily
The one reviewed can easily handle that.
Thank you@@WilliamShakerTech
Would you take the one reviewed over the Ecoflow river 2?@@WilliamShakerTech
@@jserracin44 I'd choose EcoFlow obviously. It's the superior product.
@@WilliamShakerTech Thanks again
Thank u. It really helps 🎉
Helpful video and info !! . How important is the value of Ah ?? i have seen that in the LiFePO4 Batteries specs - I need a power station for my speaker (200W maximum) to last at least 3hrs -- would a 300W power station be sufficient ? -- Since the power station already includes the inverter I suppose i dont need to consider the value of Ah or ??. Power station also includes the charger -- If i consider batteries + inverter + charger may be i come to the same price - and with batteries i would need to consider that for 200W*3hrs =600W and even more due to some lost (lets say total 800W) . with 12V, I would need 800W/12V= 66Ah -- please advice.
Get yourself a 1000Wh device.
What size would I need to run pap machine and a fan for at least 12 straight hours?
Can I use any power bank AC 110v outlet for 17 inch tv in the car on the go connect to iPhone to watch RUclips for my kids? Thanks.
Yes
Can this work to run my desktop for about 5 hours during a power outage?
The EBL device? It depends on what is hooked up.
Do I use both when charging with electricity, or I use both when I'm charging with a solar panel?
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Thanks god bless
All I need is a unit to charge my E bike what would you recommend.
Watch tomorrows video. Although for camping, it’s similar power requirements.
Can you use them to run a laptop while they are charging from solar?
Yes
If you can't power a refrigerator for several hours it is worthless....
With a 500wh device, you can power a portable fridge for about 14-15 hours (assuming a 35w draw).