I'm a market gardener and the idea of everlasting onions replacing spring onions is very appealing! Would save a lot of sowing and transplanting each year, I look forward to getting in touch with incredible vegetables for some advice! Great video and inspiration as always Huw!
Easy to Google any of these If I was more clever I could send a link to Apios Americana which is North American native river commercialized in Japan starchy and tasty
Huw!!!!❤ You're with Mandy!!! They sell perennials including the asturian cabbage tree. I couldn't get it from her because I'm in the USA... I'll get seeds. Nice video.... In December last year I planted onions and didn't harvest one because I read that it would multiply like garlic. It's true! It has three bulbs in-ground now! It was my little onion experiment. Thank you again huw!!!❤
Oca is grown here in NZ, commercially since 1980's. Known as NZ yam. Seems to be seasonal. I am eating a low histamine diet which has lead me down this fascinating path of finding alternatives. I love to cook so this is exciting for me, not a hindrance. Love the knowledge you are bringing forth and the salad perennial discussion on your other channel is also full of possibilities.
OMGoodness, so disappointing 😂 I needed MORE. A TOUR! Pictures of items talked about. Much, much more. An article? A link? Thank you-- however you broke my ♡. Will binge your context, I NEED MORE!
I love the bird accompaniment in the background! Any chance you could give us the scientific names for the plants that you and Mandy are discussing? I looked up "ground nut" and found out that's what we Americans call a peanut, but I'm not sure that's what Mandy is growing. For us international viewers, it would be helpful to have a little more information. Thank you for introducing us to this lovely woman.
Forgive me if I've forgotten important context since watching this video, but it's possible they are referring to Apios americana, also known as Hopniss, and sometimes referred to as groundnut. It fits the perennial bill. Hope this helps.
I very much appreciate her reference to the "groundnut" being "a bit rampant" rather than calling them invasive. As she refers to them being grown commercially in Japan, I'm guessing she's talking here about Apios japonica/Apios fortunei. Is that correct? I have Apios americana establishing on our site but have not yet even attempted to harvest any of the tubers.
@@regenmediaofficial Great it's always a very enjoyable and informative series. I bought some of her perennial leek bulbils and Welsh onion seeds a few weeks ago . Now I can grow alliums from sets , seeds and perennials!
My approach would be to (permaculture like) create an ecosystem/group of plants in different layers (Apios Americana-groundnuts around orchards as ground cover below berry bushes under nut/fruit trees to minimize space) Or stick in annuals during the dormancy of a perennial.
Epic Gardening is doing that with his artichokes. I'm trying to figure out if there's anywhere I could stick a cold frame to keep artichokes alive through our winters though.
When using land for a Market Garden...my commodity is the square foot of production land ..not the product produced. What maximizes income per square foot? Perennials for the most part do not yield the yearly dollar value. I use perennials in excess land to supplement income with minimal labor input
True. Output diversity is something I learnt, especially with Ronas world tour. Annuals are more adaptable to climate and market variables. And more output potential throughout the year, compared to one big harvest
In market gardening, maximizing income per square foot with perennials can indeed be tricky, as they often have a longer maturation period compared to annual crops. However, some perennials are high-value crops that yield well once established. I am thinking probably, Saffron (Crocus sativus).It takes around 3 years to establish fully but can be harvested each fall once mature. Ginseng (Panax ginseng) thrives in shaded, forest-like settings. Wasabi (Wasabia japonica) High-value crop with significant price per pound (up to $160 or more wholesale).Lavender (Lavandula spp.) Rhubarb (Rheum rhabarbarum) Once established, rhubarb is a low-maintenance perennial that produces reliable yields each spring. It’s cold-hardy and suitable for northern climates. Asparagus (Asparagus officinalis) Asparagus can be produced for up to 15-20 years once established, with a reliable market demand each spring. It requires initial patience but offers a consistent income per square foot in the long term. Other less used ones I think could include Hops (Humulus lupulus?) About 1-2 pounds per plant, with prices reaching $10-15 per pound for popular varieties Horseradish (Armoracia rusticana) Dense root growth, with high value in fresh and processed forms. $4-8 per pound fresh, higher for value-added products. Aronia Berries (Aronia melanocarpa) $3-5 per pound fresh; value-added products (like juice and powders) can bring more.Elderberry (Sambucus nigra).Sea Buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides)15-20 pounds per bush annually, starting around the third year.Fresh berries are often priced around $8-10 per pound; oils and processed products can be worth much more. Hopes this helps you.
@davidhogan621 I totally agree and appreciate your response. It isn't easy making a market garden work. Well...be financially stable. Starting out...I didn't have either the space, time, resources to wait, nor the market available for most specialty perennials. That doesn't mean I haven't added some over time...but mostly for personal use. Again...thank you. I wish more people would read this thread.
I sold to a high end restaurant for years and they wanted novelty and unique flavors way more than volume. It took me awhile to understand this. They served 20 course meals and just one small leaf per customer was quite normal.
no, have a search (AKA potato onions) they're kinda like round bulb shallots in growing habbit, but with a stronger taste, there's quite a wide genetic variation in size and propesity to seed, they don't store well generally, I think this is why they went out of favour, if you go from seed you're more likely to get onions that will go to seed, but then you can localise and select for non seeding progeny/size etc. I think there's a lot of scope for selective breeding, even crossing with regular onion varieties.
I would recommend the Egyptian Walking Onion to anybody trying to grow onions as well. If you like the greens you have them all year as they can be perennial
@@ptah23 Yes, it's important to use scientific names rather than common ones, to minimize confusion. For example, Apios americana is "American Ground nut, potato bean, hopniss, Indian potato, hodoimo, America-hodoimo, cinnamon vine, or groundnut".
Fell out of use because of the capitalist system of market exchange, see above comments from market gardeners growing ‘products’ for market based on a square foot production. The more people that start growing their own food the more we can get these vegetables back on the plate.
The cacophonous bird song tells me all I need to know about how rich this environment for growing veg is. I love it ❤
I'm a market gardener and the idea of everlasting onions replacing spring onions is very appealing! Would save a lot of sowing and transplanting each year, I look forward to getting in touch with incredible vegetables for some advice! Great video and inspiration as always Huw!
Pictures of the items would help, also some listing of plants to 'steal' from. Loved the birds and the conversation.
I agree. To me its like talking about the moon if I am unable to relate to the visuals
Easy to Google any of these
If I was more clever I could send a link to Apios Americana which is North American native river commercialized in Japan starchy and tasty
Huw!!!!❤ You're with Mandy!!! They sell perennials including the asturian cabbage tree. I couldn't get it from her because I'm in the USA... I'll get seeds.
Nice video.... In December last year I planted onions and didn't harvest one because I read that it would multiply like garlic. It's true! It has three bulbs in-ground now! It was my little onion experiment.
Thank you again huw!!!❤
Oca is grown here in NZ, commercially since 1980's. Known as NZ yam. Seems to be seasonal.
I am eating a low histamine diet which has lead me down this fascinating path of finding alternatives. I love to cook so this is exciting for me, not a hindrance.
Love the knowledge you are bringing forth and the salad perennial discussion on your other channel is also full of possibilities.
OMGoodness, so disappointing 😂 I needed MORE. A TOUR! Pictures of items talked about. Much, much more. An article? A link?
Thank you-- however you broke my ♡.
Will binge your context, I NEED MORE!
I love the birdsong!
Brain stimulating ideas. Thanks for the introduction ( RE-INTRODUCTION .) to the sustainable of perennial vegetable
You are most welcome!!
Food for thought. Who actually decided on the 20-odd fruits and vegetables in our national diet when there is much variety out there?
I love Incredible Vegetables! Thank you.
I am slowly building up my collection of perennial vegetables and the hop iss/ ground nuts are delicious.
I would have enjoyed it more if you could have shown the items you were talking about. 😊
I love the bird accompaniment in the background! Any chance you could give us the scientific names for the plants that you and Mandy are discussing? I looked up "ground nut" and found out that's what we Americans call a peanut, but I'm not sure that's what Mandy is growing. For us international viewers, it would be helpful to have a little more information. Thank you for introducing us to this lovely woman.
Forgive me if I've forgotten important context since watching this video, but it's possible they are referring to Apios americana, also known as Hopniss, and sometimes referred to as groundnut. It fits the perennial bill. Hope this helps.
I very much appreciate her reference to the "groundnut" being "a bit rampant" rather than calling them invasive. As she refers to them being grown commercially in Japan, I'm guessing she's talking here about Apios japonica/Apios fortunei. Is that correct? I have Apios americana establishing on our site but have not yet even attempted to harvest any of the tubers.
The natural question is why did a vegetable like everlasting onions fall out of favor?
great episode.. beards looking good ,keep it thicker fuller.
Those birds were making sure they stole the show 😅😅
We have a ton of groundnut here. Apios americana. Is this the ground nut you refer to here in the video? It's native here in Ontario, Canada.
Sunchokes are a North American tuber that could be cultivated.
That are cultivated ;) Multiple varieties have been developed.
Sunchokes are delicious baked with olive and rosemary.
is there a tour of her placce?
Will be on the Huw Richards channel early next year :)
@@regenmediaofficial thanks, I'll look forward to it!
@@regenmediaofficial Great it's always a very enjoyable and informative series. I bought some of her perennial leek bulbils and Welsh onion seeds a few weeks ago . Now I can grow alliums from sets , seeds and perennials!
Super cool content!
So what does an everlasting onion look like and how can one procure it? Like here in NZ 🤔
I've got a Welsh onion that splits up. Is that the same as the everlasting onion?
Really glad I no longer have a hearing aid. The birds are super loud compared to your voices.
What were the names of those perennial root veg mentioned?
Apios americana and Oca
@@regenmediaofficial Thank you
Skirret (Sium sisarum) was also mentioned.
@@asbjorgvanderveer5050 Thanks.
And mashua
My approach would be to (permaculture like) create an ecosystem/group of plants in different layers (Apios Americana-groundnuts around orchards as ground cover below berry bushes under nut/fruit trees to minimize space)
Or stick in annuals during the dormancy of a perennial.
Epic Gardening is doing that with his artichokes. I'm trying to figure out if there's anywhere I could stick a cold frame to keep artichokes alive through our winters though.
Is that a perennial purple tree collard To Mandy’s right?
When using land for a Market Garden...my commodity is the square foot of production land ..not the product produced. What maximizes income per square foot? Perennials for the most part do not yield the yearly dollar value. I use perennials in excess land to supplement income with minimal labor input
True. Output diversity is something I learnt, especially with Ronas world tour. Annuals are more adaptable to climate and market variables. And more output potential throughout the year, compared to one big harvest
In market gardening, maximizing income per square foot with perennials can indeed be tricky, as they often have a longer maturation period compared to annual crops. However, some perennials are high-value crops that yield well once established.
I am thinking probably, Saffron (Crocus sativus).It takes around 3 years to establish fully but can be harvested each fall once mature.
Ginseng (Panax ginseng) thrives in shaded, forest-like settings.
Wasabi (Wasabia japonica) High-value crop with significant price per pound (up to $160 or more wholesale).Lavender (Lavandula spp.) Rhubarb (Rheum rhabarbarum) Once established, rhubarb is a low-maintenance perennial that produces reliable yields each spring. It’s cold-hardy and suitable for northern climates. Asparagus (Asparagus officinalis) Asparagus can be produced for up to 15-20 years once established, with a reliable market demand each spring. It requires initial patience but offers a consistent income per square foot in the long term. Other less used ones I think could include Hops (Humulus lupulus?) About 1-2 pounds per plant, with prices reaching $10-15 per pound for popular varieties
Horseradish (Armoracia rusticana) Dense root growth, with high value in fresh and processed forms. $4-8 per pound fresh, higher for value-added products.
Aronia Berries (Aronia melanocarpa) $3-5 per pound fresh; value-added products (like juice and powders) can bring more.Elderberry (Sambucus nigra).Sea Buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides)15-20 pounds per bush annually, starting around the third year.Fresh berries are often priced around $8-10 per pound; oils and processed products can be worth much more. Hopes this helps you.
@davidhogan621 I totally agree and appreciate your response. It isn't easy making a market garden work. Well...be financially stable. Starting out...I didn't have either the space, time, resources to wait, nor the market available for most specialty perennials. That doesn't mean I haven't added some over time...but mostly for personal use. Again...thank you. I wish more people would read this thread.
I sold to a high end restaurant for years and they wanted novelty and unique flavors way more than volume. It took me awhile to understand this. They served 20 course meals and just one small leaf per customer was quite normal.
Is Everlasting Onion the same as Welsh Onion?
no, have a search (AKA potato onions) they're kinda like round bulb shallots in growing habbit, but with a stronger taste, there's quite a wide genetic variation in size and propesity to seed, they don't store well generally, I think this is why they went out of favour, if you go from seed you're more likely to get onions that will go to seed, but then you can localise and select for non seeding progeny/size etc. I think there's a lot of scope for selective breeding, even crossing with regular onion varieties.
I would recommend the Egyptian Walking Onion to anybody trying to grow onions as well. If you like the greens you have them all year as they can be perennial
I really wish I if my area like a market garden man... biggest regret
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ground nut? isn't that peanuts
No,not at all the same.
@@shelleygoetchius231 i can only find information about peanuts when i search for groundnuts
@@shelleygoetchius231 which one of these does the video mean? people really should stick to latin names en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundnut
In the UK they are also called pig nuts, earth chestnuts and kipper nuts (conopodium majus) 😊
@@ptah23 Yes, it's important to use scientific names rather than common ones, to minimize confusion. For example, Apios americana is "American Ground nut, potato bean, hopniss, Indian potato, hodoimo, America-hodoimo, cinnamon vine, or groundnut".
The natural question is why did a vegetable like everlasting onions fall out of favor?
Fell out of use because of the capitalist system of market exchange, see above comments from market gardeners growing ‘products’ for market based on a square foot production. The more people that start growing their own food the more we can get these vegetables back on the plate.
Yes they lend themselves to harvesting by hand. That will be the key to success of perennial veg with small growers 🌱😎