Neither did thatcher and her beasts for doing similar to thousands of the working class so that some could become richer, she got a state funeral. Most of them are ex PM’s😂😂😂surely they will get the same.
for someone that had lost a mother in the second lockdown, the revelations that have come out this week have truly been shocking and and sickening , the attitude with the MP and PM is beyond despicable. This inquiry ultimately will do nothing for the victims that have died families and people recovering from long covid of the virus. Just lessons learnt for the government , which is rotten to the core.
It’s really unbelievable. I’m an A&E Sister nhs and what I’m hearing is utterly beyond comprehension. If I ran my dept like they ran the uk, I’d be out of a career. Words fail me.
I am afraid it is up to the people to ensure that this level of incompetence and eugenicist is never forgotten and to pressure the state to ensure it genuinely changes course and plans efficiently at the very least. I am truly sorry for your loss.
It's amazing how efficient and competent these Tories are when it comes to siphoning vast sums of public money into the pockets of their chums and donors.
it was all part of the tory government's plan to rid dead beats like oaps & the sick so they wouldn't have to pay out on benefits for the ageing scroungers!! it meant more money in the tories pockets & for their rich friends!!!
@@dragonflyBMXThere isn’t a Tory amongst them. Just a bunch of greedy lefty /liberal self serving school boys , without the merit or qualifications to even run a pigsty . And all the while masquerading as Tories.
@@dragonflyBMXIt was nothing to do with Tory greed. Be impartial. Don't let your politics colour your judgement and analysis. Had you watched earlier hearings, which you might not have done, there was a consensus, and certainly within Johnson, just let the old folk die, don't sacrifice the economy for the old folk that will die soon (because they are old).
@@davegaskell7680yeah but his first answer was a load of rubbish. We weren't the first country hit by covid. Dozens were hit first, and it was obvious what was going to happen, certainly by the time Italy was hit. Singapore was hit before the UK and did a better job protecting lives and the economy with the UK's own pandemic response plan that our stupid government didn't even use!
Who should be in court? Anyone who did what they thought at the time was genuinely for the best is completely blameless - regardless of 2020 hindsight. The only people who are deserving of criticism are those who prioritised THEIR OWN interests above the public good like Johnson and Cummings. I don't think that there was a single civil-servant or scientist who has any case to answer in that respect.
My father-in-law went into hospital with a heart attack. He was recovering, but following a patient being brought on the ward with the classic signs of covid, he developed symptoms, his recovery stopped, and he died. IN JANUARY 2020. It was here in 2019. Plenty had been ill with mild symptoms. Plenty had been travelling to foreign climates. It was spread before many realised.
My son came home from Australia in December 2019 to welcome his first nephew. Whilst here he had a flu with some different symptoms to the usual flu. I am sure that he had the Wuhan strain of Covid.
I was I'll in autumn 2019 with what I thought was flu, for 4 weeks I felt like I'd been run over by a bus, a friend who worked at a care home told me that some guys in hasnat suits came and promptly gathered her and her colleague up and did tests on them because one of them had a chest infection, because of a virus from China that same autumn...it was deffo here in 2019
Me and most of my mates got it in December, 2019, we all got over it with no issues, with one exception, one passed around March 2021, moral of the story (comment) never underestimate the power of natural immunity!
I was only acting on the medical advice at the time , even though I and we knew what was happening very rapidly in other parts of the world and nobody took the decision to shut the airports or begin massive testing . It is as if the people in charge were thinking that somehow people in the British isles were a cut above people in the rest of the world and the virus would act differently ! Unbelievable complacency and arrogance..
I was only acting on medical advice. Nuremburg trials I was only following orders. They were hanged as that was not an excuse Government ministers knew so that is not an excuse. Even someone as uneducated as myself said lock country off before it arrives.A scientist advised worldwide lockdown but was totally over ruled. Tell your lies and bullshit to families who lost loved ones Shame on you
My wife worked in a care home on the first lockdown, if a client went to hospital for a minor injury, they were sent back to the care home after treatment with no testing to see if they had covid. Six people died there prematurely
My wife also worked in a care home, they were receiving elderly people from hospital with care packages that emphasised, " isolation, end of life ". The government murdered 1000s of elderly people..
@@hyundaicanaliculli7549Not sure what you mean? There is plenty of evidence as such. Older people in care homes going into hospital and then back will be recorded. Though I saw it myself. People were coming off ships and just going home though the ships had Covid on them. One couldn't dock for ages because of it.
Even now their trying to hide what they knew and what they did but one thing is for sure the people know and we also know the tories have blood on their hands 🤬
Not just the Tories remember there was absolutely no opposition to anything they did, and even know anybody who questions anything is silenced by sacking them .the whole ruling class is in on the depopulation agenda, and it’s all going to plan
From what we've already heard, I suspect we know the answer to why such complacency was being displayed. People in care homes have no economic value - ie they don't make money, and therefore Johnson deemed them unimportant. Tory values right at the core.
It's a travesty and a disgrace that this isn't a criminal inquiry because its quite obvious the vast majority of these inept devious scumbags need to be doing jail time .
Once this is over there needs to be a public campaign for criminal investigations to take place. It is the only thing will have a genuine long lasting impact. This bloke was always in competent.
wormald squirms like a worm. Good work here from this lady in scrutinising this man, no showboating no ego just confronting him with the facts ,many of which he had stated in the mornings evidence
I was part of operating theatre staff at a London hospital. I remember the 20th of March 2020. We were having lunch break in a coffee room full of Operating theatre personnel, doctors, nurses and others, wearing scrubs but not wearing masks. There was a discussion on the virus, but nobody taking precautions. That was the day I realised what a mess it all was and stopped working at the end of that same week. It may have saved my life? I will never know but likely.
Absolutely right. They just play along with the inquiry, as they know no one will be properly held to account, then it's back to business as usual, snouts back in the trough and trebles all round. Pass the sick bucket.
Absolutely disgraceful. I knew, from watching the news in other countries (S Korea, Italy, Spain and France) that this was a terrible idea. I remember being shocked and anxious that politicians and the media were not more concerned about this strategy at the time. So why was this man showing so little curiosity and concern when he is one of those in charge!
Of course he has a smug look on his face. This ‘inquiry’ is as farcical as the topic it’s investigating. It’ll be completed, they’ll announce ‘lessons have been learned’ and it’ll be business as usual.
They all smirk...they know it’s all words with no punishment. They can do what they like . There are companies employing these inept @$$holes despite knowing their track records ....
I remember the news. The woman took own mother from care home. On tv they showed her as an Evil. And, prosecute her. Returned the mother back. Disgrace.
Did they increase Midazolam plus give another drug that slows the heart rate down? did they have extra flu and any other vaccines? would be interesting to know if they did as some have said that is the case.
Yes what is the point of this if no one faces punishment they have literally decided who is to live or die disgraceful ,shocking ,and wrong in every aspect.
I wouldn't trust this man to look after a dog. Got a KCB just for becoming a permanent secretary i.e. "public service" or just doing his job. He gave poor answers & constantly had to be told to wait for questions & not ramble on to justify himself.
It’s always someone else’s fault. Pass the buck, sloping shoulders, only following orders/advice, excuses excuses. No one with an ounce of integrity, it’s pathetic.
A large local care home was told to free up beds (send vulnerable people home) immediately in order to make room for Covid positive patients from the local hospital. Needless to say, the home didn't have a say in it & once Covid positive patients arrived, it spread throughout the care home to those otherwise not infected beforehand. So many needless deaths, utterly heartbreaking for many people, loved ones & families.😢
I was horrified at the time too. But the hospitals were full.... there were no nursing staff to crew the nightingale hospitals.... where were these old people going to go? Stay in hospital and leave someone who needed a ventilator to die at home? As did happen all too often anyway? I don't say it was the right course of action - but was there an alternative?
Matt Hancock's introduction of midazolam in carehomes. Anyone who wants to perceive that as a conspiracy theory then they should look at the video still circulating between Hancock and luke evans talking about " a good death".
@@chunkybuster7203 just watching these hearings and they're laying some form of groundwork to see what went wrong but what intentionally went wrong is far more sinister than what they're talking about. We've seen how they've treated MP Anthony bridgen.
NICE told the medical profession to adopt this policy for those with covid & not to be concerned about the effect the medication would have on their breathing capability... How would a doctor go about not following an instruction from them?@@janegreen9340
Surely there is a case or, cases to be taken out against these people at least for gross negligence. For people that lost loved ones through negligence, don't ever give up the battle for justice. These people are an absolute disgrace, how dare they play god. It wasn't just the elderly we lost, many young people lost their lives through gross negligence. To see these people still in jobs or collecting vast sums through media appointments is shocking. For some perspective, I once lost a job for being truthful about a directors dishonesty. So many have blood on their hands and they don't give a toss. Bring these blaggards to justice.
Well for those that didn't know before ,We certainly know Now they didn't Care and Still don't Now .And the people in this County in there Millions have allowed and Still allowing them to get away with it Scott Free ,No Protesting in our Millions for those poor sods ,We leave that for others to do there Protesting in Our country .
My aunt, at age 84, went into hospital with a stomach ulcer. Up to lockdown, she and my uncle had been active and staying healthy apart from osteoarthritis which was being treated. My uncle wasn't allowed in to see my aunt in hospital except once to take her some grapes as she wasn't eating. She was sent home after she had recovered. A day nurse visited. She then was taken back into hospital as fell ill again. She had caught COVID. She recovered almost fully and was ready and packed to go home. Then the doctors said they wanted to do more tests. By the Monday my sister and uncle received a call to say my aunt was dying. We all went in to say our goodbyes but she was so heavily sedated ????? My uncle said it was the same hospital ward as before in Kings College Camberwell. It was the COVID ward.????? After 60 years without a night apart my uncle passed away six months later as he was so heart broken. These are people's families and they were allowed to die to free up pension payments and reduce the population which now sees illegal immigrants coming here and causing a new outbreak of tuberculosis and other pandemics we haven't had for years 😠
Why is no one asking about midazolam was given to the old folks in care homes and in hospital with breathing problems, as most of us know it's a end of life drug?????????
The reason was to hasten the deaths of many elderly people so as they save money to pay for pensions and 😢 that the pensioners worked all their lives and money taken from their wages for pensions. They even call pensions "benefits" as if they are being given money that they didn't work for
It is galling to hear the revelations about how care home residents and the elderly (and by extension, care staff) were considered to be worthless. At the start of lockdown i was assigned to a temporary team tasked with trying to get advice and support to care homes. Many of them were very worried, or were getting sick. Residents were getting sick and dying without their families around them. Meanwhile, all this politicising was happening, and judgements were being made about the lack of value of certain people's lives. Hearing about how Johnson wanted the eldery to accept their fate, and how Matt Hancock wanted to take decision making about prioritising patients away from clinicians, and now this - makes my blood boil. Add to that all the valuable contracts dished out like sweets to ministers' mates - well.... This is mothing short of criminal in my opinion.
In my experience the care home situation in Britain is often privatised. People who work there only get £64 a week if they are off sick and are not paid a salary if they are ill so people would rather work while sick than sacrifice their salaries for sick pay they can't pay the bills with. Also many people work in a number of different care homes, so it's hard to control the virus situation if it gets out if control. It's the whole setup that sucks.
Thatcher outsourced residential and nursing home care to the private sector being their chums and donors. It was a license to print money for a long time, a person on “dragons den” made his first millions from residential care and then moved on.
If my mother had died in a care because of the utter failure of people like Mr Worm-ald, I'd be even more bewildered by his performance in this inquiry. He stands there saying we did everything right at the time. Scientific advise. So it's the scientists fault, I wonder who he's referring to? It's beggars belief. Do they really not know what decency, integrity and shame is or is that a stupid question. He's one of the top paid civil servants in the country. Incredible.
What would YOU have done differently in a world without PPE vaccines or a clear understanding of the virus? I am not saying that your loss is trivial - but screaming at the storm and blaming people for her death is only valid if there was something that was practical, understood to be effective and achievable wasn't done. So what specific action(s) weren't done?
@@occamraiser if they had followed the recommendations of exercise Cygnus, they would have built up a stockpile of PPE and could have acted with caution about risk of infection instead of experimenting with ppl's lives
He will have had plenty of opportunties during his long civil service career to hone his ability to distort the truth whilst appearing genuine. Unfortunately for him he doesnt have a poker face and the contempt he feels for this enquiry is evident
a criminal case should be produced for misconduct in a public office, of which the definition is "serious wilful abuse or neglect of the power or responsibilities of the public office held" with over 200,000 dead from covid either directly or indirectly, that speaks for itself with regards to the ability of these politicians to hold such an office. if the testimonies that have been given don't show what a shamble these politicians were as they made discissions that cause untold deaths and harm to this country and claim that they acted responsible in that office, then clearly they have no idea what responsibility actually means, let alone be able to carry out a responsible role in the first place.
of course they didn't care about old people dying. The Government was fully focused on handing public money to their freinds! The pandemic was the best cover they'd ever had for this process.
I had occasion to spend a few days in hospital during December 2019 for an entirely unrelated issue. While visiting me regularly in the hospital my wife picked up and subsequently passed on to me a virus the symptoms of which closely parallelled our later similar infections during which we both tested positive for Covid 19. That was nearly 3 months prior to the lockdown.
It was going around in November and after Xmas. People were ill or dying then. I am sure Govt would have been informed. They did nothing hoping it would just go away.
@@davegaskell7680 By the way the Govt bang on about furlough but forget a lot of people and many older people had to continue working in shops,transport and jobs providing essential services still. How would people get to eat otherwise? Same with ambulance drivers etc. Right in the middle of it all. Don't hear about them though do you?
As they were not testing people coming in to UK plus anyone likely to have come into contact in February and only testing those with symptoms even though it was known not every one showed symptoms they had no idea how many were infected at that time.
This happens in 2018 . But the world government keeps quite. In Siberia ' laboratory was a fire. So , the virus will spreads. Then, in 2019 was a chemical attacks on people. In different countries were different people 's reaction on the chemicals. They spreaded by aircrafts.
Because Johnson decided they were expendable. And I for one want him to be brought to trial for the harm he did when he knew better.....like changing risk level categories for his personal convenience....CRIMINAL
Simple. Pfizer wanted the disease here. It's what they planned for and the controlled treasonous UK glove puppet Government complied. Let the trials begin!!
It was cruel by not letting relatives in to see their parents. PPE could have been worn and maybe set in a private room. It wasn't just the UK government at fault but SNP in Scotland and Labour in Wales. Way to go by trashing our economy and freedom
So old people in care homes Could die. Johnson ordered this, tell them to accept there fate and let young live in the economy, pile the bodies high Johnson said. He should be in prison for manslaughter manslaughter"
@@dragonfly6908 he said it,it's been confirmed, he didn't care or know what he was saying or anythink about health issues disease,nhs, people, he used to just speechmake and walk away, all he knew was wealth ,power,greed and control,just like truss, Hancock lied,just like Johnson,lied in front of public on tv, every question he replied " what a good question" he followed everything the scientist said and put it onto his nightly speech,his own wife told him to put regional areas regarding lockdown, health issues never effected his " plans" people say he brought in the vaccines. The lady in Oxford done that not Johnson , he then fained death in ICU to tonhoodwink the public to make it look like a really bad disease killing people, to make people follow rules,also he clapped nhs, manipulated the public to also clap em, he then walked away to arrange a party for his staff to get drunk and disorderly, because being in charge ( pm) it don't effect him or them, whilst people were dying and loved ones were staying home because a lier and narcisstic mentally ill man told em too. Cheers.
@@dragonfly6908 I'm afraid you are taking the word of a liar seriously, Johnson is an oaf and a serial liar. Cummings has stated on record that Johnson said it, others have said he said it. He's a liar. It will come out in this inquest.
The nightingale hospitals which were built and never used (another waste of taxpayers money) should have housed the elderly when they left hospital with covid and not put into/returned to nursing homes to infect others. Just proves how much it was a cull of the elderly. How these people sleep at night, I’ll never comprehend, but I’m sure they do. Shameful 😠
Another example of the poor decision making from these people. This is what you get from a bunch of ideologues with no experience of engaging with the real world.
There was no-one to operate the nightingale hospitals. They would have been crewed by complete amateurs and a few retired nurses if the beds were needed. They were a wise investment and a hedge against a failure to suppress the flood of cases in hospitals. Don't whinge about the cost, we needed to make provision for a disaster, and rightly so.
Early treatment involving Midazolam apparently helped the numbers for the govt to up the hype in time for the "fully informed consentual application" of the solution !
How did I guess that the "we followed the science" was going to be the stock answer of this Inquiry? And yet these are the very same people who say they need huge salaries blah blah blah because they're taking all the responsibility.
This man should be in jail for manslaughter. It makes me feel sick, incompetence doesn’t begin to explain my feelings. How do these idiots get the jobs.
So Matt Hancock wanted to be in charge basically, above the health authorities to say who lived and who died ??? My jaw nearly fell off my face ! Who the f does he think he is ? GOD ?? There needs to be consequences for the way all of this was handled ! Disgraceful! 😠
That could have been good advice if the government, it's "experts", and agencies had allowed early treatment medications to be used in the general population!!
...... If this enquiry ain't gonna put the EVIL behind bars that was part of the Scam then what is the point of it, hopefully not to prove a point and tell all those that suffered, basically the whole NATION,..OH SORRY we made a mistake, if so that ain't good enough....
They should all have their lord status taken away from them, imo the House of Lords should be shut down it’s out dated and I can’t see why we have them, most don’t go or if they do they fall asleep, a useless money drain system
Liars. Liars. Liars. All lying. I was watching RUclips videos and reports in JANUARY and I knew it was going to be bad. They MUST have had access to better information and they didn’t act on it. Now they are lying about it. JAIL THEM ALL FOR CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE.
I worked in a care home during the pandemic. We lost a third of our 39 residents. My job was to clear their rooms of belongings in bags and sanitize the rooms. Still haunts me to this day.
Majority of the country new things were bad when they allowed thousands of people going to Cheltenham racing , and at the same time thousands where dying around the world 😢 the whole lot of them are a disgrace and should go to prison !
Yes, you are right, you didn't lose anyone during covid, and you just want every one to move along, nothing to see here, get some weed in get footie on. That's why you fail to see the point, you can't see past the end of your nose can you?
It would seem this particular idiot was working on the concept of British exceptionalism. It was evident that the spread in the U.K. would mirror that of other similar countries to anyone paying attention.
Every single person in government inc civil servants need to be interrogated and those found wanting must be prosecuted, and where subsequently found guilty should expect lengthy custodial sentences. it won't happen of course.
I would go further… make MPs like jury service.. if you are over 18 and dont have a criminal record and are a British citizen, you are called for MP service on a fixed salary, no second jobs allowed. When your term is up ypu leave and go back to your previus job.
@@petyrkowalski9887 Wrong . Jury service you simply have to be registered on the electoral register. And are selected by The Courts at random in your area. Further details are supplied by your local Courts. Your not so that means that you don’t fit the criteria. Or you wouldn’t be asking?
No humility, no contrition, just mealy mouthed excuses. Sickening.
Neither did thatcher and her beasts for doing similar to thousands of the working class so that some could become richer, she got a state funeral. Most of them are ex PM’s😂😂😂surely they will get the same.
for someone that had lost a mother in the second lockdown, the revelations that have come out this week have truly been shocking and and sickening , the attitude with the MP and PM is beyond despicable. This inquiry ultimately will do nothing for the victims that have died families and people recovering from long covid of the virus. Just lessons learnt for the government , which is rotten to the core.
It’s really unbelievable. I’m an A&E Sister nhs and what I’m hearing is utterly beyond comprehension. If I ran my dept like they ran the uk, I’d be out of a career. Words fail me.
it time to call a election now get them out
I am afraid it is up to the people to ensure that this level of incompetence and eugenicist is never forgotten and to pressure the state to ensure it genuinely changes course and plans efficiently at the very least. I am truly sorry for your loss.
People are still catching COVID despite vaccinations. A few days ago there were 17 people in Rotherham Hospital with COVID.
@@dianeglanvilleAnd Reform UK in.
It's amazing how efficient and competent these Tories are when it comes to siphoning vast sums of public money into the pockets of their chums and donors.
To there friends then straight back to them
Well said. They're very efficient when it comes to corporate theft.
Many, many years practicing that particular skill!
That's all they are interested in.
The witness in the video is the senior civil servant in the DHSC. He is not a politician.
What they did regarding the old peoples homes was criminal and these people should be criminally prosecuted
So many loved ones lost to tory greed and negligence.
it was all part of the tory government's plan to rid dead beats like oaps & the sick so they wouldn't have to pay out on benefits for the ageing scroungers!! it meant more money in the tories pockets & for their rich friends!!!
@@dragonflyBMXThere isn’t a Tory amongst them. Just a bunch of greedy lefty /liberal self serving school boys , without the merit or qualifications to even run a pigsty . And all the while masquerading as Tories.
C thatcher got a state funeral for doing that to thousands of the working class
@@dragonflyBMXIt was nothing to do with Tory greed. Be impartial. Don't let your politics colour your judgement and analysis.
Had you watched earlier hearings, which you might not have done, there was a consensus, and certainly within Johnson, just let the old folk die, don't sacrifice the economy for the old folk that will die soon (because they are old).
Criminal self-serving negligence
"Criminal self-serving negligence." Exactly. I couldn't put it better.
Exactly… whilst drunk at the levers of power.
I wonder if he believes what he is saying? He's even more slippery than Dominic Cummings.
Pretty difficult to out-slime Cummings. Remember the Durham Eye-Test..... Cummings is a documented liar.
This woman is excellent in her line of questioning.
In her first question, maybe. Her further questions had already been answered by his first answer.
@@davegaskell7680yeah but his first answer was a load of rubbish. We weren't the first country hit by covid. Dozens were hit first, and it was obvious what was going to happen, certainly by the time Italy was hit.
Singapore was hit before the UK and did a better job protecting lives and the economy with the UK's own pandemic response plan that our stupid government didn't even use!
They were guilty of gross negligence.
They should be in court.
Who should be in court? Anyone who did what they thought at the time was genuinely for the best is completely blameless - regardless of 2020 hindsight. The only people who are deserving of criticism are those who prioritised THEIR OWN interests above the public good like Johnson and Cummings. I don't think that there was a single civil-servant or scientist who has any case to answer in that respect.
My father-in-law went into hospital with a heart attack. He was recovering, but following a patient being brought on the ward with the classic signs of covid, he developed symptoms, his recovery stopped, and he died. IN JANUARY 2020. It was here in 2019. Plenty had been ill with mild symptoms. Plenty had been travelling to foreign climates. It was spread before many realised.
My son came home from Australia in December 2019 to welcome his first nephew. Whilst here he had a flu with some different symptoms to the usual flu. I am sure that he had the Wuhan strain of Covid.
I was I'll in autumn 2019 with what I thought was flu, for 4 weeks I felt like I'd been run over by a bus, a friend who worked at a care home told me that some guys in hasnat suits came and promptly gathered her and her colleague up and did tests on them because one of them had a chest infection, because of a virus from China that same autumn...it was deffo here in 2019
Me and most of my mates got it in December, 2019, we all got over it with no issues, with one exception, one passed around March 2021, moral of the story (comment) never underestimate the power of natural immunity!
Pretty sure my mum caught it in hospital and died Jan 2020. Went in for something very minor ...
I was only acting on the medical advice at the time , even though I and we knew what was happening very rapidly in other parts of the world and nobody took the decision to shut the airports or begin massive testing . It is as if the people in charge were thinking that somehow people in the British isles were a cut above people in the rest of the world and the virus would act differently ! Unbelievable complacency and arrogance..
I was only acting on medical advice.
Nuremburg trials I was only following orders. They were hanged as that was not an excuse
Government ministers knew so that is not an excuse.
Even someone as uneducated as myself said lock country off before it arrives.A scientist advised worldwide lockdown but was totally over ruled.
Tell your lies and bullshit to families who lost loved ones
Shame on you
That was aimed at government not yourself.
Same as Brexshit. English exceptionalism will get us through.
Well, of course, if you are an Eton elite, you ARE a cut above us plebs.
@@JohnDavies-cn3roITS A MASTERS IN KUNTERY FOR ALL THE YOUNG RUPERTS ...
He’s like a character Dickens might have invented. These people should be facing prosecution for negligence.
My wife worked in a care home on the first lockdown, if a client went to hospital for a minor injury, they were sent back to the care home after treatment with no testing to see if they had covid. Six people died there prematurely
Terrible. This makes me so angry .
My wife also worked in a care home, they were receiving elderly people from hospital with care packages that emphasised, " isolation, end of life ". The government murdered 1000s of elderly people..
My niece worked in a care home during the pandemic. The elderly went to hospital unwell, were sent back and died. They all knew what was happening!
Why not ask the people who worked in carehomes themselves instead of these so called experts of the science so falsely called
@@hyundaicanaliculli7549Not sure what you mean? There is plenty of evidence as such. Older people in care homes going into hospital and then back will be recorded. Though I saw it myself.
People were coming off ships and just going home though the ships had Covid on them. One couldn't dock for ages because of it.
Even now their trying to hide what they knew and what they did but one thing is for sure the people know and we also know the tories have blood on their hands 🤬
You talk as if they had options and chose not to take them so that extra people would die.....grow up
@@occamraiserThey had options and chose not to take them. Is that right or not?
Not just the Tories remember there was absolutely no opposition to anything they did, and even know anybody who questions anything is silenced by sacking them .the whole ruling class is in on the depopulation agenda, and it’s all going to plan
From what we've already heard, I suspect we know the answer to why such complacency was being displayed. People in care homes have no economic value - ie they don't make money, and therefore Johnson deemed them unimportant. Tory values right at the core.
It's a travesty and a disgrace that this isn't a criminal inquiry because its quite obvious the vast majority of these inept devious scumbags need to be doing jail time .
CRIMINAL of course
Once this is over there needs to be a public campaign for criminal investigations to take place. It is the only thing will have a genuine long lasting impact. This bloke was always in competent.
wormald squirms like a worm. Good work here from this lady in scrutinising this man, no showboating no ego just confronting him with the facts ,many of which he had stated in the mornings evidence
I was part of operating theatre staff at a London hospital. I remember the 20th of March 2020. We were having lunch break in a coffee room full of Operating theatre personnel, doctors, nurses and others, wearing scrubs but not wearing masks. There was a discussion on the virus, but nobody taking precautions. That was the day I realised what a mess it all was and stopped working at the end of that same week. It may have saved my life? I will never know but likely.
He knows they messed up , the man’s trying so desperately to blame shift
He knows the system will protect and reward him because it’s as rotten as him.
Absolutely right. They just play along with the inquiry, as they know no one will be properly held to account, then it's back to business as usual, snouts back in the trough and trebles all round. Pass the sick bucket.
You can spot a psychopath by the expression on their face while they defend their misdeeds
Nice to see he's still got a smile on his face whilst talking about the avoidable deaths of thousands of vulnerable people.
No evidence means this enquiry should go to the international criminal court
Common law court with a Jury!
Absolutely disgraceful. I knew, from watching the news in other countries (S Korea, Italy, Spain and France) that this was a terrible idea. I remember being shocked and anxious that politicians and the media were not more concerned about this strategy at the time. So why was this man showing so little curiosity and concern when he is one of those in charge!
A case of 'I'm alright Jack'
And who's strategy was it? I don't believe that the person being interviewed created and implemented it without the buck stopping at the Top Desk.
He was bought and paid for
Genuine question…Will there be a section in this inquiry into the siphoning of public purse, for PPE etc?
Is it just me or does he have smug-looking smirk on his face at almost all times?
Of course he has a smug look on his face. This ‘inquiry’ is as farcical as the topic it’s investigating. It’ll be completed, they’ll announce ‘lessons have been learned’ and it’ll be business as usual.
They all smirk...they know it’s all words with no punishment. They can do what they like . There are companies employing these inept @$$holes despite knowing their track records ....
I was just thinking the same, they know nothing will happen to them hence the smug look
I worked in care homes during the pandemic i can offer insight of how callous it was
I remember the news. The woman took own mother from care home. On tv they showed her as an Evil. And, prosecute her. Returned the mother back. Disgrace.
Did they increase Midazolam plus give another drug that slows the heart rate down? did they have extra flu and any other vaccines? would be interesting to know if they did as some have said that is the case.
Don't you just love his smirk.
I wonder why is he smiling....Isn't this supposed to be a serious matter?
Johnson said it all,they’re going to die anyway,absolutely sickening and still they’ll get away with it
Yes what is the point of this if no one faces punishment they have literally decided who is to live or die disgraceful ,shocking ,and wrong in every aspect.
I wouldn't trust this man to look after a dog. Got a KCB just for becoming a permanent secretary i.e. "public service" or just doing his job. He gave poor answers & constantly had to be told to wait for questions & not ramble on to justify himself.
THESE PEOPLE CONTROL OUR LIVES HOW HOW
Would you trust anything this man, who appears to be a retired music hall performer, told you?
THE COMPLACENCY WAS SO EXTREME IT WAS A DISGRACE !!!
It’s always someone else’s fault. Pass the buck, sloping shoulders, only following orders/advice, excuses excuses. No one with an ounce of integrity, it’s pathetic.
Let's call this what it is. Eugenics
A large local care home was told to free up beds (send vulnerable people home) immediately in order to make room for Covid positive patients from the local hospital. Needless to say, the home didn't have a say in it & once Covid positive patients arrived, it spread throughout the care home to those otherwise not infected beforehand.
So many needless deaths, utterly heartbreaking for many people, loved ones & families.😢
I was horrified at the time too. But the hospitals were full.... there were no nursing staff to crew the nightingale hospitals.... where were these old people going to go? Stay in hospital and leave someone who needed a ventilator to die at home? As did happen all too often anyway? I don't say it was the right course of action - but was there an alternative?
Yes that was utterly stupid.
Matt Hancock's introduction of midazolam in carehomes. Anyone who wants to perceive that as a conspiracy theory then they should look at the video still circulating between Hancock and luke evans talking about " a good death".
Jacqui Deevoy has done a brilliant documentary on this, she is on X!
@@chunkybuster7203 just watching these hearings and they're laying some form of groundwork to see what went wrong but what intentionally went wrong is far more sinister than what they're talking about. We've seen how they've treated MP Anthony bridgen.
The opioid/medazolam cocktail I believe is used in hospices for end of life care, why the medics went along with this is another enquiry in itself.
NICE told the medical profession to adopt this policy for those with covid & not to be concerned about the effect the medication would have on their breathing capability... How would a doctor go about not following an instruction from them?@@janegreen9340
His Arrogance is astonishing.
Looks and sounds surprisingly smug given the circumstances
I thought that.
Surely there is a case or, cases to be taken out against these people at least for gross negligence. For people that lost loved ones through negligence, don't ever give up the battle for justice. These people are an absolute disgrace, how dare they play god. It wasn't just the elderly we lost, many young people lost their lives through gross negligence. To see these people still in jobs or collecting vast sums through media appointments is shocking. For some perspective, I once lost a job for being truthful about a directors dishonesty. So many have blood on their hands and they don't give a toss. Bring these blaggards to justice.
Well for those that didn't know before ,We certainly know Now they didn't Care and Still don't Now .And the people in this County in there Millions have allowed and Still allowing them to get away with it Scott Free ,No Protesting in our Millions for those poor sods ,We leave that for others to do there Protesting in Our country .
My aunt, at age 84, went into hospital with a stomach ulcer. Up to lockdown, she and my uncle had been active and staying healthy apart from osteoarthritis which was being treated. My uncle wasn't allowed in to see my aunt in hospital except once to take her some grapes as she wasn't eating. She was sent home after she had recovered. A day nurse visited. She then was taken back into hospital as fell ill again. She had caught COVID. She recovered almost fully and was ready and packed to go home. Then the doctors said they wanted to do more tests. By the Monday my sister and uncle received a call to say my aunt was dying. We all went in to say our goodbyes but she was so heavily sedated ????? My uncle said it was the same hospital ward as before in Kings College Camberwell. It was the COVID ward.????? After 60 years without a night apart my uncle passed away six months later as he was so heart broken. These are people's families and they were allowed to die to free up pension payments and reduce the population which now sees illegal immigrants coming here and causing a new outbreak of tuberculosis and other pandemics we haven't had for years 😠
Why is no one asking about midazolam was given to the old folks in care homes and in hospital with breathing problems, as most of us know it's a end of life drug?????????
The reason was to hasten the deaths of many elderly people so as they save money to pay for pensions and 😢 that the pensioners worked all their lives and money taken from their wages for pensions. They even call pensions "benefits" as if they are being given money that they didn't work for
It is galling to hear the revelations about how care home residents and the elderly (and by extension, care staff) were considered to be worthless. At the start of lockdown i was assigned to a temporary team tasked with trying to get advice and support to care homes. Many of them were very worried, or were getting sick. Residents were getting sick and dying without their families around them. Meanwhile, all this politicising was happening, and judgements were being made about the lack of value of certain people's lives. Hearing about how Johnson wanted the eldery to accept their fate, and how Matt Hancock wanted to take decision making about prioritising patients away from clinicians, and now this - makes my blood boil. Add to that all the valuable contracts dished out like sweets to ministers' mates - well....
This is mothing short of criminal in my opinion.
In my experience the care home situation in Britain is often privatised. People who work there only get £64 a week if they are off sick and are not paid a salary if they are ill so people would rather work while sick than sacrifice their salaries for sick pay they can't pay the bills with. Also many people work in a number of different care homes, so it's hard to control the virus situation if it gets out if control. It's the whole setup that sucks.
Thatcher outsourced residential and nursing home care to the private sector being their chums and donors. It was a license to print money for a long time, a person on “dragons den” made his first millions from residential care and then moved on.
why is he smiling? some 36000 people died in care homes does it think it’s funny?
the lot of them should be in prison
A politician's reply - evasive, unclear, untrue
If my mother had died in a care because of the utter failure of people like Mr Worm-ald, I'd be even more bewildered by his performance in this inquiry. He stands there saying we did everything right at the time. Scientific advise. So it's the scientists fault, I wonder who he's referring to? It's beggars belief. Do they really not know what decency, integrity and shame is or is that a stupid question. He's one of the top paid civil servants in the country. Incredible.
What would YOU have done differently in a world without PPE vaccines or a clear understanding of the virus? I am not saying that your loss is trivial - but screaming at the storm and blaming people for her death is only valid if there was something that was practical, understood to be effective and achievable wasn't done. So what specific action(s) weren't done?
@@occamraiser do you get paid for this?
@@occamraiser if they had followed the recommendations of exercise Cygnus, they would have built up a stockpile of PPE and could have acted with caution about risk of infection instead of experimenting with ppl's lives
He will have had plenty of opportunties during his long civil service career to hone his ability to distort the truth whilst appearing genuine. Unfortunately for him he doesnt have a poker face and the contempt he feels for this enquiry is evident
a criminal case should be produced for misconduct in a public office, of which the definition is "serious wilful abuse or neglect of the power or responsibilities of the public office held"
with over 200,000 dead from covid either directly or indirectly, that speaks for itself with regards to the ability of these politicians to hold such an office.
if the testimonies that have been given don't show what a shamble these politicians were as they made discissions that cause untold deaths and harm to this country
and claim that they acted responsible in that office, then clearly they have no idea what responsibility actually means, let alone be able to carry out a responsible role in the first place.
I was only following orders.
MIDAZOLAM: NICE NG 163 was the centralised "pandemic" protocol questions need answering
Well said
of course they didn't care about old people dying. The Government was fully focused on handing public money to their freinds! The pandemic was the best cover they'd ever had for this process.
I had occasion to spend a few days in hospital during December 2019 for an entirely unrelated issue. While visiting me regularly in the hospital my wife picked up and subsequently passed on to me a virus the symptoms of which closely parallelled our later similar infections during which we both tested positive for Covid 19. That was nearly 3 months prior to the lockdown.
It was going around in November and after Xmas. People were ill or dying then. I am sure Govt would have been informed. They did nothing hoping it would just go away.
@@janetmalcolm6191 When you say "I am sure" don't you really mean "I have no idea but my biassed assumption is".
@@davegaskell7680 By the way the Govt bang on about furlough but forget a lot of people and many older people had to continue working in shops,transport and jobs providing essential services still.
How would people get to eat otherwise? Same with ambulance drivers etc. Right in the middle of it all.
Don't hear about them though do you?
There's a lot of guilty Tories, will there be anyone sent to prison!???
As they were not testing people coming in to UK plus anyone likely to have come into contact in February and only testing those with symptoms even though it was known not every one showed symptoms they had no idea how many were infected at that time.
This happens in 2018 . But the world government keeps quite.
In Siberia ' laboratory was a fire. So , the virus will spreads.
Then, in 2019 was a chemical attacks on people. In different countries were different people 's reaction on the chemicals. They spreaded by aircrafts.
Because Johnson decided they were expendable. And I for one want him to be brought to trial for the harm he did when he knew better.....like changing risk level categories for his personal convenience....CRIMINAL
And still the flights from highly infected Northern Italy were waved in unabatedly. Why?
Simple. Pfizer wanted the disease here. It's what they planned for and the controlled treasonous UK glove puppet Government complied. Let the trials begin!!
It was cruel by not letting relatives in to see their parents. PPE could have been worn and maybe set in a private room. It wasn't just the UK government at fault but SNP in Scotland and Labour in Wales. Way to go by trashing our economy and freedom
Oh it wasn't me.
Did they use the word slaughter.
Disingenuous waffle
So old people in care homes Could die. Johnson ordered this, tell them to accept there fate and let young live in the economy, pile the bodies high Johnson said. He should be in prison for manslaughter manslaughter"
Only according to the media. Boris denied saying "pile the bodies high".
@@dragonfly6908 he said it,it's been confirmed, he didn't care or know what he was saying or anythink about health issues disease,nhs, people, he used to just speechmake and walk away, all he knew was wealth ,power,greed and control,just like truss, Hancock lied,just like Johnson,lied in front of public on tv, every question he replied " what a good question" he followed everything the scientist said and put it onto his nightly speech,his own wife told him to put regional areas regarding lockdown, health issues never effected his " plans" people say he brought in the vaccines. The lady in Oxford done that not Johnson , he then fained death in ICU to tonhoodwink the public to make it look like a really bad disease killing people, to make people follow rules,also he clapped nhs, manipulated the public to also clap em, he then walked away to arrange a party for his staff to get drunk and disorderly, because being in charge ( pm) it don't effect him or them, whilst people were dying and loved ones were staying home because a lier and narcisstic mentally ill man told em too. Cheers.
@@dragonfly6908 I'm afraid you are taking the word of a liar seriously, Johnson is an oaf and a serial liar. Cummings has stated on record that Johnson said it, others have said he said it. He's a liar. It will come out in this inquest.
It has come out all the contempt he had for the elderly. One sick individual if you ask me.
The nightingale hospitals which were built and never used (another waste of taxpayers money) should have housed the elderly when they left hospital with covid and not put into/returned to nursing homes to infect others. Just proves how much it was a cull of the elderly. How these people sleep at night, I’ll never comprehend, but I’m sure they do. Shameful 😠
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Another example of the poor decision making from these people.
This is what you get from a bunch of ideologues with no experience of engaging with the real world.
Angela: those Nightingale hospitals were a nonsense. The government knew there was no medical staff to run them.
There was no-one to operate the nightingale hospitals. They would have been crewed by complete amateurs and a few retired nurses if the beds were needed. They were a wise investment and a hedge against a failure to suppress the flood of cases in hospitals. Don't whinge about the cost, we needed to make provision for a disaster, and rightly so.
You all know after this enquiry what will happen = NOTHING
Why are all these people knighted? It’s totally mad
Because they followed the orders and to keep their mouths shut
Midazolam Matt should be charged with murder
Someone tried ages ago and it was thrown out of court!
@@0verloADHD we must keep hounding killer hancock pureblood uk granny
what a 🔔 end
Early treatment involving Midazolam apparently helped the numbers for the govt to up the hype in time for the "fully informed consentual application" of the solution !
If these were businessmen they would face corporate manslaughter charges, Johnson the Buffon should be jailed
How did I guess that the "we followed the science" was going to be the stock answer of this Inquiry? And yet these are the very same people who say they need huge salaries blah blah blah because they're taking all the responsibility.
And you wanted them to ignore the science? I don't understand your point! They SHOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY followed the science.
Did you catch the look of contempt by the lawyer?
This man should be in jail for manslaughter. It makes me feel sick, incompetence doesn’t begin to explain my feelings. How do these idiots get the jobs.
Is this guy for real-no wonder we have had one the highest death rates.
Why is he smiling?
So many people smile habitually ☹️
Would it be classed as corporate manslaughter?
in other words, im totally incompetent
A man who smiles when he's guilty! He'd be terrible at poker.
This will finish the Conservative party at the next election.
They were responsible.
This is typical of the Conservative Mindset Worldwide....Do Nothing...... until its way past too late. Cheers from Michael. Australia
So Matt Hancock wanted to be in charge basically, above the health authorities to say who lived and who died ??? My jaw nearly fell off my face ! Who the f does he think he is ? GOD ?? There needs to be consequences for the way all of this was handled ! Disgraceful! 😠
That could have been good advice if the government, it's "experts", and agencies had allowed early treatment medications to be used in the general population!!
...... If this enquiry ain't gonna put the EVIL behind bars that was part of the Scam then what is the point of it, hopefully not to prove a point and tell all those that suffered, basically the whole NATION,..OH SORRY we made a mistake, if so that ain't good enough....
Note all the sirs and lords … all clueless..
They should all have their lord status taken away from them, imo the House of Lords should be shut down it’s out dated and I can’t see why we have them, most don’t go or if they do they fall asleep, a useless money drain system
Worm!
Liars. Liars. Liars. All lying. I was watching RUclips videos and reports in JANUARY and I knew it was going to be bad. They MUST have had access to better information and they didn’t act on it. Now they are lying about it. JAIL THEM ALL FOR CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE.
I worked in a care home during the pandemic. We lost a third of our 39 residents. My job was to clear their rooms of belongings in bags and sanitize the rooms. Still haunts me to this day.
No need to give this bs any credence at any time ever.
Majority of the country new things were bad when they allowed thousands of people going to Cheltenham racing , and at the same time thousands where dying around the world 😢 the whole lot of them are a disgrace and should go to prison !
As predicted, this will be all about lockdown sooner, harder. They have learnt sfa. So expect exactly the same, but worse, in the future.
I fail to see any point in this enquiry nothing will be done to anyone involved so whats the point
This is to make it look like something is being done but as usual nothing will and all those poor people lost there life’s .💕
Yes, you are right, you didn't lose anyone during covid, and you just want every one to move along, nothing to see here, get some weed in get footie on. That's why you fail to see the point, you can't see past the end of your nose can you?
It would seem this particular idiot was working on the concept of British exceptionalism. It was evident that the spread in the U.K. would mirror that of other similar countries to anyone paying attention.
Give me strength!
"Squirm, wriggle, slither, squirm."
Was all I heard in this man's testimony.
Slimeball
Watched this today, this fella more slippery than an eel
Every single person in government inc civil servants need to be interrogated and those found wanting must be prosecuted, and where subsequently found guilty should expect lengthy custodial sentences. it won't happen of course.
Disgrace the way the elderly in homes were treated.
The solution is to make the job’s of MPs a licensed occupation with the proviso that they pay 90 percent tax on income earned during their tenure.
I would go further… make MPs like jury service.. if you are over 18 and dont have a criminal record and are a British citizen, you are called for MP service on a fixed salary, no second jobs allowed. When your term is up ypu leave and go back to your previus job.
@@petyrkowalski9887 Wrong . Jury service you simply have to be registered on the electoral register. And are selected by The Courts at random in your area.
Further details are supplied by your local Courts. Your not so that means that you don’t fit the criteria. Or you wouldn’t be asking?
@@petyrkowalski9887 So you are against democracy and people voting for people to represent them?