How To Lose The Cy Young Award In One Pitch

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @habitualgl0ckdumper149
    @habitualgl0ckdumper149 Год назад +658

    As an O’s fan, he didn’t have a chance for the Cy Young no matter what. If Zack Britton went a whole season without blowing a save and posting a .054 ERA and doesn’t win it, no way Felix was going to 😔

    • @negativeiqpoints396
      @negativeiqpoints396 Год назад +22

      yup. It always goes to the starters

    • @Susbus69
      @Susbus69 Год назад +30

      That’s how it should go they have the Mo and Hoffman award

    • @IS40_31
      @IS40_31 Год назад +10

      @@negativeiqpoints396not always. Since 1972, 9 relievers have won it

    • @bboyrobotic6696
      @bboyrobotic6696 Год назад

      @@negativeiqpoints396Eric Gagne is laughing at you right now lol must not be old enough to remember him and his epic battle between him and Barry bonds in 2004 when he was the CY young and Barry was the MVP and they faced each other with Barry smacking a bomb off him but they had a agreement on how things would go when they faced each other but Eric still won Cy young with a amazing 84 save season. The phrase “Game over” is what the dodgers and announcers would say when he come I got he game. And I’m a Giants fan so it is possible.

    • @pizzaparity
      @pizzaparity Год назад +25

      ⁠@@bboyrobotic6696gagne didnt have an 84 save season lol

  • @jorgejohnson451
    @jorgejohnson451 Год назад +34

    4:04 That jump in his ERA should just tell you why a relief pitcher should never be considered for Cy Young. A low ERA looks great, but it doesn’t encompass anywhere near the innings a starter would throw.

    • @InsertUsernameBrandHere
      @InsertUsernameBrandHere Год назад +2

      I wouldn't say never. I think a good closer is well warranted for a Cy Young considering they blow the breaks off teams constantly. Felix is a good example.
      HOWEVER, middle relief guys I might agree with you because normally they lack the depth/endurance to go the distance to start, usually only reliable for once through the order at most.

    • @jorgejohnson451
      @jorgejohnson451 Год назад +2

      @@InsertUsernameBrandHere Mariano Rivera’s 2004-05 seasons were his best. 53 Saves, 43 Saves. ERA: 1.94, 1.38. Innings pitched: 78.2, 78.1. CY finish: 3rd and 2nd.
      You might be right, though. If starting pitchers continue to drop in performance, a modern day Rivera might take the prize.

  • @goodfamily5815
    @goodfamily5815 Год назад +77

    I was at this game. The thought of losing going into the 9th up 3 with Bautista never even crossed my mind. The whole stadium was in shock when it happened.

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад +2

      No you weren’t

    • @chrisk5226
      @chrisk5226 Год назад +12

      ​@@Tylerrrrrbweird hill to die on

    • @aaronsharkey6916
      @aaronsharkey6916 Год назад

      good

    • @goodfamily5815
      @goodfamily5815 Год назад

      @@Tylerrrrrb why would I lie?

    • @antihax_sniper8172
      @antihax_sniper8172 Год назад +1

      As a teenage Astros fan... I won’t forget that moment 'till the day I die. (Also as a sidenote, that was my friend’s first ever baseball game... she's been spoiled rotten lol)

  • @yourmanepic
    @yourmanepic Год назад +176

    And here’s a video idea: you could talk about how the Yankees went from one of the best teams in the mlb (99 wins,) to the worst team in the al east. And how the orioles went from a good team (83 wins,) to 85 wins with about a month of season left. And a bunch of orioles players stepped up their game, Both happened in the same season and it’s wild.

    • @LESRAM1981
      @LESRAM1981 Год назад +2

      ❤💪🏽

    • @loskevinsxd3111
      @loskevinsxd3111 Год назад +13

      The O's wasn't the worst in the season at start

    • @i-churchcafe9136
      @i-churchcafe9136 Год назад +3

      only if you mention that the HOUSTON ASTROS BROKE THE YANKEES!!!

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Год назад +1

      Mets and padres both were good teams Mets winning 101 games and only getting better. Yet to be even worse this year is wild.

    • @moderndaycaveman8516
      @moderndaycaveman8516 Год назад

      To be fair, i feel like the orioles have continually improved through 5 years and i see them only getting better

  • @peytonreed9237
    @peytonreed9237 Год назад +73

    The king returned when we needed him most 💯

    • @chrisripley226
      @chrisripley226 Год назад +1

      Kyle Tucker?

    • @graves74
      @graves74 Год назад +1

      The king retired in 2021.

    • @ShootaForFun
      @ShootaForFun Год назад

      @@chrisripley226 glazing?

    • @vaudou_
      @vaudou_ Год назад +1

      ​@@ShootaForFunThat's literally his nickname. Stop misusing lingo.

    • @ThatGuySports1
      @ThatGuySports1 Год назад

      @@vaudou_what are you talking about😭

  • @BendyDH
    @BendyDH Год назад +26

    This is why I think we need the Reliever of the Year award to be treated like the Cy Young for relief pitchers. We have the Mariano Rivera/Trevor Hoffman Awards but nobody seems to care about it. Especially in this era where closers are much more the face of the pitching staff than even the starters at times and starters go all of 5 innings nowadays. Relievers could very well still win the Cy Young and walk away with both awards but that would just go to prove how absolutely lights out they were all season long. Let's give these guys like Bautista the recognition they deserve!

    • @crimsoneagle8755
      @crimsoneagle8755 Год назад +5

      It’s like the Norris Trophy in the NHL. There should be two different awards for offensive defensemen and defensive defensemen, as they serve totally different roles despite technically being the same position.

    • @BendyDH
      @BendyDH Год назад

      @@crimsoneagle8755 exactly, I look at Baseball Reference which is the main site used to view baseball player stats, and to the side it lists all MVPs, Cy Youngs, All Star appearances, Silver Sluggers, Gold Gloves, and Rookie of the Year awarde a player has won. It has zero mention of the Reliever award which was created in 2014, none of the winners have this award even listed on their page except for in the tiniest print that not a single person would notice unless they’re looking for it

    • @shreddindude
      @shreddindude Год назад +1

      I’ve always thought the Rolaids relief man of the year award was so cool

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      It’s not the awards fault that nobody cares about it… people just don’t care.. you can’t turn reliever if the year award into the cy young for relievers .. when it already Fucking is that … dumb āss

    • @lanceneidhardt4283
      @lanceneidhardt4283 Год назад

      They should have two and rename them the Starting Pitcher Cy Young Award and the Reliefe Pitcher Cy Young Award

  • @Cheatoz
    @Cheatoz Год назад +22

    I watched Tucker's AB live. After Tucker hitting off those foul balls and Bautista's count was in the high 20's that's when I knew the domination went from Bautista to Tucker and right after that was the seal of the deal. Awesome video!

    • @LittleDickJohnson
      @LittleDickJohnson Год назад

      Boo

    • @LeoKinhg
      @LeoKinhg Год назад

      Honestly, he should have pitched up in the zone for a swing and miss. Even with bases loaded.

    • @inflameslp311
      @inflameslp311 Год назад +2

      @@LeoKinhgTuck fouled off a bunch of pitches up in the zone so I’m sure Bautista thought he could sneak one low at 100, but unfortunately for him, that is Tuck’s wheelhouse. His swing is such a long sweeping swing that high is typically the best way to go, but Bautista threw so many up that he must have felt he had to do something different. Really just a great at bat by Tuck to battle till he got what he wanted.

  • @lclrogers9135
    @lclrogers9135 Год назад +12

    Kyle tucker breaks people man. Seeing him go against the angels and winning the game with a crazy right field catch definitely cements the point, you can never count the ‘stros out!

    • @mrstinkypants1122
      @mrstinkypants1122 Год назад +1

      2019

    • @tim8801
      @tim8801 Год назад +1

      Imma count them out this season. Losing to what’s supposed to be their little kid the Yankees when they could’ve took first place in the west looks like the franchise built on cheating is crashing down.

  • @bassdasdwadsasdasw
    @bassdasdwadsasdasw Год назад +6

    You could just tell he was out if it this game. His location was off, he wasn't feeling his splitter. It happens to him every once in a while and you always know it isn't going to end well. Sucks his season is basically over now

  • @timothymaynard8017
    @timothymaynard8017 Год назад +3

    He also had an inning on the last game of that series where he gave up a run on two hits and two walks to the Astros. The Orioles still won 5-4.

  • @BabyClap
    @BabyClap Год назад +23

    I’m an O’s fan so I gotta defend my boy real quick. Bad video title, you act as if the pitch was the reason for the grand slam yet speak nothing about it. Instead you mention the swing multiple times. This is baseball. Things happen that you can’t help. It’s never about one pitch. Season ain’t over yet, let’s see what happens

  • @certain352
    @certain352 Год назад +3

    An alternate video title would be, “How to prove game by game that you are going to unanimously win the Reliever of the Year award. 🥰

  • @slayermcrx7519
    @slayermcrx7519 Год назад

    kyle tucker had my heart racing that whole at bat. as soon as he hit the ball, i jumped up with my hands clenched in fists and cheered hysterically as the ball cleared the wall

  • @yourmanepic
    @yourmanepic Год назад +2

    I’ve been subbed to you since 4000 subs, keep up the good work!

  • @thepoisonouspotato3631
    @thepoisonouspotato3631 Год назад +26

    How can you not love King Tuck? He is a 2X All Star, a Gold Glover, and a World Series Champion

    • @mx4159
      @mx4159 Год назад +2

      And is also one of the most boring people on the planet
      Awesome ball players, but unless you’re a fan of the Astros it’s hard to be enthusiastic about him

    • @GoozeEggz
      @GoozeEggz Год назад +11

      @mx4159 sounds like youre just a hater

    • @mx4159
      @mx4159 Год назад +3

      @@GoozeEggz I love his game I just think he’s hella boring lol

    • @pumpkinocean354
      @pumpkinocean354 Год назад

      ​@@mx4159to be fare that fight was pretty entertaining

    • @thepoisonouspotato3631
      @thepoisonouspotato3631 Год назад +1

      @@mx4159 I understand, but you can’t deny that he is a beast

  • @smittycle9952
    @smittycle9952 Год назад +4

    The Cy young should be for starters. I thought that’s why they had the Rawlings Relief Man of the Year?

  • @smoceany9478
    @smoceany9478 Год назад +20

    unless a reliever has a 0.00 era i doubt theyll win another cy young

    • @fuktrumpanzeeskum
      @fuktrumpanzeeskum Год назад +5

      Yet those same people who freak out at the idea of a reliever having a shot at Cy Young award think that Ohtani should just be handed every award possible. That's so boring. I love baseball but i hate most baseball fans (especially anyone under 30 or so). Baseball has the dumbest, most anal retentive young fan base of any sport.

    • @tractorcannon8487
      @tractorcannon8487 Год назад

      Well Josh Hader has a .81 era is that good enough?

    • @frankbandera6591
      @frankbandera6591 Год назад

      ​@@tractorcannon8487Do you mean the guy with 50 games but 46.1 innings pitched. How about a reliever being able to manage to average 2 innings a game and maybe we could talk about it.

    • @TheRealGoldenGamer
      @TheRealGoldenGamer Год назад

      ​@unkledoda420 Agreed. And most baseball "fans" under 30 think that Mike Trout should've won 10 straight MVPs despite his team mostly being nowhere near playoff contention.

    • @smoceany9478
      @smoceany9478 Год назад

      @@TheRealGoldenGamer trout shouldnt win every mvp but i find it odd to judge a player off the skill of his teammates, if a pitcher on his team pitches a shutout he wasnt the reason, and hes not the reason if they give up 8 runs in 3 innings

  • @Baseballeveryday17
    @Baseballeveryday17 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this anazing content❤

  • @rangertalksdogsgames7996
    @rangertalksdogsgames7996 Год назад

    Man here gots such a smooth voice

  • @donkeykong1234
    @donkeykong1234 Год назад +2

    thought this would be a UCL video

  • @Ozfish75
    @Ozfish75 Год назад +8

    I don’t think this is true at all. It’s simply a blown save.

  • @lanceneidhardt4283
    @lanceneidhardt4283 Год назад +1

    In 4.2 career IP against the astros, Bautista has a 17.36 ERA with a .391/.500/.652 slashline against

  • @BGYMix
    @BGYMix Год назад +2

    McCann sort of ruined it by not catching the third strike on Tucker too

  • @CharmCityGamer
    @CharmCityGamer Год назад +6

    He still is damn near dominant yo.

    • @StupendousSport
      @StupendousSport  Год назад

      no question about it, dude is disgusting. Just goes to show how one bad outing can taint an otherwise pheunominal season.

    • @mx4159
      @mx4159 Год назад +1

      @@StupendousSportit hasn’t really tainted the season tho. If Bautista didn’t bounce back then sure you could say that moment tainted the season, but Bautista has gone back to form since Tucker’s GS. One bad outing in the middle of the season can be quickly forgotten

    • @jackkrick6936
      @jackkrick6936 Год назад

      ​@@StupendousSportyou a clown

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      @@StupendousSportspeaking of taint , ya mom licked mine

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      @@mx4159BAHAHHAHA rip Felix

  • @codyscott7608
    @codyscott7608 Год назад

    That june 24th game was great

  • @gothard5
    @gothard5 Год назад +2

    well, he left the game with an injury last night. Seems like he might have thrown his arm out. hope its nothing too severe.

  • @tractorcannon8487
    @tractorcannon8487 Год назад +2

    Who do you think will win the NL CY young. The options should be clear. Josh Hader or Blake Snell. Not even a padres fan but I mean cmon just look at their stats this season.

    • @ChargerBulldogs19
      @ChargerBulldogs19 Год назад

      Steele absolutely deserves consideration in the NL, it’s delusional to think otherwise. Just behind Snell in ERA, more Ws, higher WHIP, 1/3rd the walks, and a higher era+. Snell is having a phenomenal season. But Steele is right there and if he continues to pitch the cubs into contention for the Central, he could easily take it.

  • @Marylandterpenes
    @Marylandterpenes Год назад

    The kyle tucker grand slam hurt ,i was at that game

  • @Legault397
    @Legault397 Год назад +2

    And now the chance is completely gone with the UCL injury :(

  • @jayseaborg3895
    @jayseaborg3895 Год назад +2

    Sorry-this is just a silly take. A season of dominance isn't going to be sidetracked by one swing, and it isn't like Tucker isn't a budding superstar himself. The award is given for a whole season, not for one blown save. How about approaching this from the angle that the Orioles would not be where they are without having Bautista to close out games?

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      A ucl injury will sidetrack it tho

  • @certain352
    @certain352 Год назад +1

    How’s life as an Astros fan post-2017?

    • @lockecole3726
      @lockecole3726 Год назад +1

      Fantastic, barring '19. We don't talk about 2019.

  • @scottyfaay2064
    @scottyfaay2064 Год назад +2

    Baseball is a game that will humble any player.. its only a matter of time before you fail in baseball.. how you adjust to those failures is what defines you as a player.. baseball is a game that imitates real life in that regard

  • @votiskygabor
    @votiskygabor Год назад +4

    Zack Britton should have won the cy young

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk Год назад

      No, he shouldn’t of. Verlander should of

  • @bryanmccance875
    @bryanmccance875 Год назад

    Well this aged about as good as room temperature milk.

  • @Apis6969
    @Apis6969 Год назад +1

    AUSTIN BARNES THE GOAT😎😎😎😎 (he’s gotten 1 hit out of 700,000,000 plate appearance but still ma boi)

  • @ceryno3571
    @ceryno3571 Год назад

    It still baffles me that Britton never won that year. He was the best pitcher in the American League that year, and it wasn’t remotely close.

  • @ivermectin1974
    @ivermectin1974 Год назад +1

    And now he’s out for a while. Most likely the year with a ucl injury. Tommy John surgery soon.

  • @i-churchcafe9136
    @i-churchcafe9136 Год назад

    KING TUCK!!!!

  • @scoutsden7193
    @scoutsden7193 Год назад

    I think I saw a 100 mph breaking ball.

  • @bowlchamps37
    @bowlchamps37 Год назад

    So can we that "if voters vote against him because of this one pitch", then the voting itself is useless anyway?

  • @CentralSweeper
    @CentralSweeper Год назад

    Bautista wasn’t winning. He’s a reliever

  • @austin31bennett
    @austin31bennett Год назад

    I knew he was a monster of a man but 6'8"???? Jeez! I want what he ate 😂

  • @snappyone
    @snappyone Год назад

    He reminds me of Armando Benitez

  • @eduardopena5893
    @eduardopena5893 Год назад

    And now he's going on the IL with a UCL injury that will most likely require surgery.

  • @420zzz
    @420zzz Год назад

    He's a beast and has had an amazing season, but he was nowhere near winning the Cy Young.

  • @thexumaker
    @thexumaker Год назад

    nah if Britton and Treinen got no where close Bautista's name should not be anywhere near the cy young discussion lol

  • @brilliantran9808
    @brilliantran9808 Год назад

    Tucker just tucked Bautista's Cy Young away.

  • @gothard5
    @gothard5 Год назад

    Also, as a Reds fan, that is not how you pronounce Eugenio. it’s A-yo-enio and not E-yo-enio Suarez.

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      Do reds fans have a different pronunciation or am I missing something ? Why even tell us you’re a reds fan

  • @ShawnnyPerkins
    @ShawnnyPerkins Год назад +3

    THERE IS ONLY ONE KING FELIX 👑.
    Respect the one was 👑, who pitched a Perfect game.

  • @alienworm1999
    @alienworm1999 Год назад

    look I ride Bautista meat as much as the next guy but genuinely believing he was ever in consideration for a Cy Young is absurd

  • @Ecohoneybear
    @Ecohoneybear Год назад +2

    He loaded the bases on 4 batters and threw 9 pitches to a single batter that wore him down causing him to throw a cookie down the middle to get jacked. Forgive me, but all that took a lot more than one pitch. This would would be like saying “the straw that broke the camels back,” while ignoring all the rest of the weight the camel was carrying.

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      The straw that broke the camels back literally implies there’s a huge amount of weight on the camels back sped

    • @frankbandera6591
      @frankbandera6591 Год назад

      And that's why he can't be a Cy Young contender because he can't go the distance. The guy can barely last an inning

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      @@frankbandera6591 or this whole season, am I right ?

  • @w8stral
    @w8stral Год назад

    oof, this did not age well, or you could say this aged too well. On the IL now..

  • @akiyajapan
    @akiyajapan Год назад

    Wasn't so much the pitch as it was the batter.

  • @D.heARTist
    @D.heARTist Год назад

    Man the circumstances should be a factor. The kid closed his eyes n swung! Foh.

  • @ShawnnyPerkins
    @ShawnnyPerkins Год назад

    Gagne IN THE HEART OF THE STEROID ERA...who also did steroids.

  • @AlbertoPena-fu1cg
    @AlbertoPena-fu1cg Год назад

    Armando all over again 😅

  • @5k_gamingofficial289
    @5k_gamingofficial289 Год назад

    Best way to lose the cy young award is to throw out your arm...

  • @chuckyboy1217
    @chuckyboy1217 Год назад +1

    What sucks is that Gerrit Cole will win it, despite his team having their worst season since the early 90s, and Bautista will miss out, even if he helps the Orioles win the East by 1 or 2 games over TB. Even if it isn’t Bautista, it shouldn’t be Cole. He gets massacred by the Red Sox every time he pitches against them. The awards outside of a historic season should go to the player who helped their team win the most, not an out of contention team

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      nice take, delete the comment cause he’s out for the season. Oh and yeah they should change the cy young award to look exclusively at outings vs Red Sox, those are most important

    • @chuckyboy1217
      @chuckyboy1217 Год назад

      @@Tylerrrrrb cope Yankee fan

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      @@chuckyboy1217 what...? Lmfao...1. How is that coping... 2. That's literally what you said, i just pointed out how ridiculous it was to read. 3. Im an O's fan

    • @chuckyboy1217
      @chuckyboy1217 Год назад

      @@Tylerrrrrb let it go buddy

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      @@chuckyboy1217 like Felix is letting go of his “cy young” season?

  • @Gidgy_Widgy
    @Gidgy_Widgy Год назад

    He's not even the best closer in the mlb? What are you talking about by young?

  • @mavjagmaverick1527
    @mavjagmaverick1527 Год назад +1

    This dude barely throws any strikes and gets batters to swing at bad pitches. If batters knew how to lay off he'd walk 10 batters a game.

    • @NoelSchively
      @NoelSchively Год назад

      Well, you're wrong.
      His success is because he has 100+ mph speed and then a sinker that drops off the table at 95. And he is so big that he's not throwing from 60'6" but closer to 50'.
      Batters can't tell the difference, so they have to gear up to hit the 102mph heater down the center, and instead it's 95. They've already started to swing and 1) the pitch is that much slower and 2) it just drops.
      Look for the sinker, and he'll hit you with the fastball in the zone.
      I've seen him get a guy by pumping 3 fastballs across the plate, getting faster each time, and I've seen him throw 3 sinkers that dart out of the heart of the plate and have gotten swings, and some that dart down and still stay in the zone.
      A good deal of this is pitch selection - largely Rutschman.
      Every once in awhile, the batter guesses right and makes solid contact.

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад +2

      @@NoelSchivelyyou’re wrong .. lmao I’m 95% sure he doesn’t throw a sinker.. yep “I’ve seen him throw 3 sinkers” yep.. dude threw 0 sinkers this year

    • @NoelSchively
      @NoelSchively Год назад

      You're right, it's a splitter not a sinker. Still comes in at 90mph and drops. It's enough action and a big enough change in velocity that a lot of batters flail against it. He can drop it in for a called strike and he can get batters to chase it as it falls out of the zone.
      At the same time, he can pump a 100+ down the heart of the plate, or low, or high. The difference between the two means hitters have a hard time figuring out how to approach it, and they often have to guess.
      The assertion that he "barely throws any strikes" and if hitters just laid off they'd walk is ludicrous. He does throw strikes - and some of those are because they are guessing fastball and start their swing, and then the ball drops out of the zone, making it look like they didn't lay off. I've also seen it where they were clearly guessing splitter and the ball goes center center and they never get the bat off their shoulder.

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад +2

      @@NoelSchively Yeah imagine writing an entire paragraph, starting off by telling someone else they're wrong, just to be wrong about the pitch, which is what holds your argument together. Your entire "analysis" of this player is wrong, nothing you say holds any merit. Take a seat, like Felix will be doing for the remainder of the season, and the beginning of next season.

    • @NoelSchively
      @NoelSchively Год назад

      Lonely under that bridge, huh, Tyler?

  • @DRAGON_PRODZ
    @DRAGON_PRODZ Год назад

    Sucks for bautista

  • @sportsfansports3353
    @sportsfansports3353 Год назад

    How to rip off iTalk Studios thumbnail style, one video at a time.

  • @josephpossanza5022
    @josephpossanza5022 Год назад

    Eckersly and Gagne the only to RP to ever win it.. very hard for a closer or RP to win the cy young. Especially when you look at all the starting pitchers this year who are in the race for it. Doubtful he would have even been considered in the top 5 for the award this year. Amazing closer but very hard to do.

  • @banyarling
    @banyarling Год назад

    Lame argument, even more so now that he's injured. Maybe even shameful.

  • @SavagesInMyTown
    @SavagesInMyTown Год назад

    he was never in the running for the cy young lmao watchu talkin about

  • @lochnessmonster5149
    @lochnessmonster5149 Год назад

    He was never going to win the Cy Young.

  • @williamstricko2594
    @williamstricko2594 Год назад

    Cleveland closer has 34 saves now but with their record,that number will be overlooked….

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад

      WOAH 34 SAVES WOWWW THATS ALL THAT MATTERS

  • @gradyjones7017
    @gradyjones7017 Год назад +1

    A reliever should never win a Cy young. If they were truly skilled enough to win it, they would be a starter

    • @gradyjones7017
      @gradyjones7017 Год назад

      @@asidck that’s the point. Coming in for (maybe) 1 inning is every other day with full stamina is nowhere near the level of skill it takes to throw possibly 90+ pitches every 5 days

    • @NoelSchively
      @NoelSchively Год назад

      But not everyone has the mental fortitude to come into a close game and assure the victory. And if they have a bad outing, forget about it and do it the next day.

    • @gradyjones7017
      @gradyjones7017 Год назад

      @@NoelSchively that is true, but I think getting many more innings is more valuable overall

    • @NoelSchively
      @NoelSchively Год назад

      I think making sure the opposing team doesn't get more runs than your team in a close game is most important.

    • @gradyjones7017
      @gradyjones7017 Год назад

      @@NoelSchively same thing for a starter, you think they don’t have to limit runs?

  • @Laevateinn98
    @Laevateinn98 Год назад

    if one pitch is enough to knock a relief pitcher out of the cy young conversation then relief pitchers should never even be considered for a cy young

  • @nomercyinc6783
    @nomercyinc6783 Год назад

    cy youngs arent decided by singular pitches. one pitch doesnt ruin anyones award chances. period

  • @prospectsETC
    @prospectsETC Год назад

    He was never going to win it anyway. The day of a RP winning Cy Young is over.

    • @onehand-yusuf7212
      @onehand-yusuf7212 Год назад +1

      Never say Never. Who would've thought we wouldve seen a reincarnated Babe Ruth