This is happening to a 7.5" gauge railroad near me called the Annetta Valley and Western. There is a brand new school across the street from it and developers are hungry for the 9 acres of land. Fortunately, it will get moved to Springtown, TX further north of it's current location. It won't be the same but at least we get to save the track.
The Annetta Valley and Western is moving? That's too bad that the developers didn't want to be good neighbors. It could have been a good community anchor.
@MillBrookRailroad Yeah, developers want every single piece of land they can possibly get. At least there will still be an Annetta Valley and Western, just not in the same place it has been for all those years.
@@MillBrookRailroadAnyways, I'm glad to see that you were able to help preserve this historical 7-1/4" gauge railroad. Very neat strech of track. Great video as usual by the ways!
When developers & real estate people smell money, they are like sharks. These people eat their own young. I watched it where I lived. If you don''t sell the land, then they hire criminals to set the property structures on fire & force you to leave. I watched one halloween eve's night, 45 years ago, when they burned an old navy training airport whose owners & pilots would not sell the property. Real estate people associate with thuggery so they have a "ready" force to deal with anyone who does not go their way! Not an honest one to ever be found!
Wow, that is so cool! I am glad that you are saving the railroad. The last run will be an historic event that really needs documented as I know it will. Years ago I lived in Vermont but haven't been back since
Beautiful place! Most of us railfans have supportive families or we couldn’t do our crazy projects. Unfortunately, once we are gone, the family generally wants to move on. Such is the temporary nature of life. Glad you can save this, wish I was closer.
What often happens to these little railways is the family doesn't want it, they don't know who to call to sell it to, and so it goes out to the curb. My first steam engine was a rescue. It was a 2-1/2" gauge pacific with a copper boiler and Baker valve gear. The guy who built it was a ham radio friend of mine, and one day, he mailed me a letter, telling me that he had a steam engine I could have and if I didn't want it, it was going out to the curb. I immediately phoned him and arranged a pick-up. That's what got me into this hobby of ride-on trains back in 2005.
A beautiful spot and a famous railroad. My brother used to visit it with his kids back in the 80's. Glad you're able to save parts of it. Thanks for doing so.
Staring at your cell phone will never experience the same joy the builder had making this dream come true. Another incredible hobby slowly diminishing to non-existence.
My experience has shown that this hobby is not diminishing. There are more railways of this size being built than being torn up, and staring at your phone has been largely responsible. So, don't be discouraged. There's still hope for the younger generation.
I've found that this is one of the few subsets of model railroad hobby that are actually growing, as there seems to be more youth interest in something you can actually ride and operate like the full-size equipment than there is in the smaller scales. Kids like the interactivity and technically-minded young adults like being able to actually build something with a functional use. A model train is, at the end of the day, a visual approximation of a train. A miniature train IS a train, it can do work and carry passengers. Plus, the much larger layouts feel less like you're going around in circles.
I've definitely enjoyed seeing the steamers at this scale. Every one of them was built, managed, operated and maintained by someone who really has a love for the hobby.
There was this 7 1/4" gauge railroad somewhere in Michigan that closed down recently, I don't remember it's name but it had an awesome track plan, and I really wanted to get up there and buy one of their battery electric locomotives and a few freight cars to start my own little farm railroad, but they just divided up all the equipment between three of the members and wiped the land clean like there was nothing ever there, and what they didn't want ended up in a scrapyard or was burned. Really glad to see yall wanting to save this road keep it's memory alive rather than tossing it aside.
Sadly, that happens all too often. I've pulled up several railroads over the years. The first one was to get it out of the way of a new driveway. I've found new homes for a couple railroads over the years. Most of the time, I can just connect the seller with a buyer, but sometimes I get to take it home.
I think I used to pass by the OCR on my way to Freedom , NH to my great grandmothers . The RR I saw was off of RT 16 on a side road . Great that you can save it !!!
When I was a kid, I always wanted something like this in my backyard. Now that I am an adult in my early 40s..... I still want something like this in my backyard! Amazing!!
I would start with this book. discoverlivesteam.com/books/track_building.htm The Backyard Railroading group on Facebook is a good place to go for support. Just answer the gateway questions as best you can, and you'll get in.
Man kann richtig sehen, wieviel Mühe und Fleiß in der Anlage steckt. Sie haben ein sehr schönes und großes Grundstück. Macht weiter! Werde regelmäßig auf Euren Kanal gehen und nachsehen. Grüße aus Berlin / germany
This will give you plenty of track for the extension of the Millbrook. Hope you can save a lot of the rock too. Rent a dump trailer to move to the Millbrook.
Depending on the cost of stone, it's probably not worth it to try to save old stone like that. You'd also have to sift it and get all the crud out of it. If you had access to a 1/8th scale ballaster machine! (Hmm, there's a money-making idea!)
@SD40Fan_Jason Not much money in a machine like that unless you own it and provide services to club tracks. ...but you're probably right about the ballast. It's $16 per ton from the local quarry and an 83 mile drive from the OCR.
@MillBrookRailroad if a gooseneck dump trailer can haul 5 ton, how much is gas going to cost for the round trip? I doubt it does much more than break even vs having it delivered.
9:02. Is that on old Model A I spotted? My dad had one for years. Convertible with the "rumble seat". Your efforts to save the railroad are admirable! I bet that steamer has some good stories to tell. She's a beaut.
That may have been either a T or an A. It's part of a larger collection. The steamer is actually historically significant. Restoration has already started.
You certainly need to get that steam engine operating on the MBRR. That would be cool as heck to see a steam engine pulling your pellet trains up that grade! :)
won't be run in the winter time with steam.... Rain Cools the boiler down very fast i have seen it first hand while working with a full sized steam traction engine!
@@GRE2057 That is interesting, I can run my 1:32 scale model Mikado in the winter, Had it fired even on denatured alcohol at 15 deg. one time. and I run and fire a real 2 ft. gauge 0-4-0 in the winter and they both steam just fine. Maybe that traction engine doesn't have proper lagging on it? I burn coal in the engines I run, that might make a difference too. But back in the day, Farmers used those engines in winter didn't they? I don't know just assuming they would for plowing and other uses. Anyhow, I have also seen 7 1/2" gauge Northern's plowing snow on club layouts in winter here on RUclips. I am inclined to think there is something not right with the engine you saw that time, or the fuel it was burning? Very strange that rain would effect it much at all. It was pouring down rain here in Ohio on Sunday July 2nd, and I was firing the 0-4-0 and even with soaking wet coal, it was no issue keeping steam up. ruclips.net/video/y4o_urComAQ/видео.html&ab_channel=TheSteamChannel
The steam engine will run on the MLBK, but I don't think I'll put it through the abuse that the WP-1 will put it through. Maybe I'll run it on the WP-2 a time or two. It'll certainly be run on the CSX-1. That's not a very heavy train. I think it's safe to assume that I'll run it in the winter, but only after I build the track going into the basement shop.
@@MillBrookRailroad I am curious to see how much she will pull. We might be surprised. She is little, but might be mighty. I have to sprinkle sand sometimes on my rails with the heavy coal trains I run on my layout, and we pull a 6% grade on the narrow gauge I run on. when it is raining we have to use sand to get up that too. I am probably as excited as you are Aaron to see that baby run. :) Please do videos on the tube repair and other things you do to put her back in service. I never dreamed someday I would see Steam on the MBRR. So cool! :)
Well Mill Brook Railroad I’m very proud of you and I hope you will have a lot of fun with your new stuff and take them with pride and let’s keep the mill brook railroad expansion coming together and I can see you had fun on the speeder.
Living in LA, I am fortunate to have a club/museum nearby (LA Live Steamers) that is not susceptible to disbandment if the owner dies. I believe the club owns the property it sits on. Walt Disney was a founding member. They have a wonderful collection and attract many fine displays of equipment.
L.A. Live Steamers in Griffith Park was used by Steve Martin, and Bernadette Peter's in the movie, "The Jerk" when she was babysitting the little boy brat who stole the Little Engines 4-4-2, 3000, for a joy ride. Hi 👋 🤩in July 2023A.D!!
Hi Aaron, thanks for the heads up on the future of your videos and railroad. I am so excited!!I am going to enjoy the channel even more than ever now that the MLBK railroad has more types of trains and train cars. I have been a fan of the channel ever since I watched the first video. Cory Mears
I remember a neighbor telling me about a miniature railroad on a wooded lot in my neighborhood in the 1960s. I just remember the lot with no track by the 1970s by the time I got interested in these. Big modern house sitting there now.
These railways are ethereal, by their very nature. This one lasted much longer than most, but it was mainly because of the age of the owner. He was a teenager when he built it. The property was in the family, and he eventually ended up owning it right up to the time he died at age 83. That's a rare situation.
2:47 @@MillBrookRailroad Sherman's park Caroga lake NY ....So close but not fast enough..They scrapped it....Google Images of the park and you will see the coaster ..I rod that coaster back in the late 60s and it was a family hangout every weekend😭
Thanks for saving the Ossipee Railway. I made a modest donation on the Gofundme website. I lived in Nashua NH from 1980 until 2001. Now live in Tennessee not far from Mid South Steamers in Columbia TN . I had 2 strokes in 2021 and use a hemiwalker to get around now.
Is that rusty Phaeton body that was trackside for sale??? Thanks for saving this railway....always wanted my own. There is a company not far from me in Boons Mill VA that makes trains like this.....need to visit! Thanks
It hadn't been abandoned for long. The last maintenance was in July, 2022, when Dwight held a meet for the North East Live Steamers club, of which he and I were both members. He died around the 19th of December, 2022. Sadly, I never made it to any of the meets at his house due to work commitments.
I only knew him in passing from my brief work with the WW&F in 2007. I wish I'd known him better. I really couldn't bear the thought of his railway being split up and parts of it with an uncertain future. It will be preserved at a new location with a different track plan, but it will all be used and taken care of. I've already started restoring the steam engine. I hope Dwight would have approved.
track is easy to move. pending how it was made. most likely in 8 to 10 foot long sections. number of trips on a heavy duty pu truck trailer. long bed 1 ton. or use a 5 ton truck with a mid level trailer for that truck. might just cut the rail at the joiners due to rusty bolts/nuts. couple batt powered sawzalls. or gas powered chop saw. couple people there. (one for safety, one to do the work). couple others to stack the rail in a rail car to take to re-stack into the waiting truck. start at the far point of the loop. work to the loading area. then do the "other half. the other direction. the fun part will be the lifting the turn table. you will need a very strong crane. pending how well is was set in concrete. got a portable jack hammer? 3-4 good backs for digging? but great you are protecting the past for the future.
@@MillBrookRailroad I wonder if the new property owners could be convinced to not remove the railroad, but to keep it? They could even charge 5 to 10 dollars a ride and the neighborhood children (yes, adults also) would love it and the money could go to the upkeep of the property.
@armandoperez7967 The family is keeping the property, but they don't want the liability of the railroad. The really good news is that the guy who built the railroad was really active in the local community and also very active in railway preservation in New England, so there's a lot of good will surrounding this railroad. People in the community are sad to see it go, but happy that it's going to be preserved.
Gee bro almost enough track to make yours a double track on your property even with your planned extension. Do hope all goes well with lifting of this track and extra bits that go with it. Safe travels. Ken.
Fantastic! I really hope that the entire railroad can be saved! I wonder what a 7 and 1/4 inch scale Big Boy or 2-6-6-6 Allegheny would look like on this railroad?
Those engines would be way too big on this little railroad. There's too much sudden up and down for a big Mallet to stay on the tracks at the current home of the OCR. The MLBK would be even more unsuitable with our light rail on most of the railroad, limiting us to 250 lbs per axle. The failure point of our light rail is closer to 350 lbs per axle. Something those big mallets exceed. As for the railroad: it will be saved one way or another.
Saw this video and took a look. An incredible amount of work to build this railroad but I would think after riding it a few cycles, it would get boring. To each his own I guess.
This particular railroad does tend to get boring after a few times around, but it can't stay where it is. It'll be used to make the Mill Brook Railroad bigger. The MLBK has hills, S curves, sidings, and a beginning and end. No running in circles. The ends, when it is finished, will be separated by a forest and nearly 50 feet of elevation.
I understand why 7 1/2" came about but I wish they would've kept it 7 1/4 "". Now it's like HO, the right size trains running on the wrong size track. Cool video!
@@MillBrookRailroadI'm a bit out of my element here, being into 3-rail O-gauge, but it seems like a quarter-inch difference in gauge would be within a margin of error for the trackwork of trains of this size. How did a difference that small become an issue?
I haven't pulled up the rails yet, but when I do move it, you'll be able to visit it at the Mill Brook Railroad in Windsor, VT. Open by appointment year round. www.millbrookrailroad.com
Aaron how is the progress going? you have to take the track, what about the ballast? if it is close by, it will not be too bad to transport all of the cars and track. will you get a hi cube truck to move the track? it looks like it has a long loops of track. great video, nice set up to be saved! good luck, keep us posted.
I have moved most of the rolling stock to temporary storage in the indoor yard at the Shady Pines Railroad. One more trip will get the rest of the rolling stock closer to home. Then, I'll plan one last meet at the track where we'll run for half a day, then pull up the track when we're done. The turntable, steaming bays and engine house will take more time. I also need to prepare the new space on the MLBK for the engine facility. That's why I'm doing a fundraiser on Go Fund Me and on PayPal and Patreon. This is going to take a lot to move and preserve. I've already started with the steam engine. Look for videos of that soon.
The locomotive was bought by Dwight in June 1962. 662. The boiler was built in England but Al Rothamel did the rest in Marblehead. They weren’t unique, Carl designed them to be easy to build there are a couple still kicking today. I looked it for Dwight when he punched a hole in the tube. Boiler will need some work before it will hold pressure in it.
@@MillBrookRailroad Buckey is a nice guy but clueless. He was trying to replace it. He had not run it for a while and decided once he retired he was going to get it going again. He was trying to clean it but the copper had degraded enough in that tube(and maybe the rest of the boiler) that he was able to get a bore brush stuck in there and puncture the tube side.
Drive by the OCR frequently. Glad it will be saved. What is the rail road in Brookfield, NH on rt 109? Not too far from OCR. Might be another potential save!
Locomotives like that little blue gas mechanical are a good entry point to the hobby. They are usually in poor condition, but with some work and a few parts, they are a good deal for not a lot of money.
We have 1 of these mini railways her in the uk and it cost around between £2 to £3.00 gbp to go on it and it goes round a track a few times its at a place called moss bank park its a cool thing
The UK has many little railways like this that inspire the imagination and instigate people to build more little railways. The most fitting thing here is that the former owner of this railway was very active in railway preservation up to the day he died, and now his railway will be preserved, albeit at a different location. Now for the task of moving an entire railway! Watch this space.
I noticed the clip of the lady seemingly talking to the engine has me wondering what that was about seems there might be alot of emotional attachment to the engine
Will you be saving one of those tractors too? Tractors come in handy when building and maintaining a railroad. Are you salvaging the roundhouse, lifts, and all track too?
Not the tractor, but everything connected to the railroad. The track, the turntable, the steaming bays, the roundhouse, the tools, the coal stock -everything.
Good Job and sad reminder that when we pass our collections and hobbies, we painstakingly built will often be just disposed of by our families or worse someone designated to handle clearing out your estate . That has no care and/or concern for legacy, the value, nor all the time you spent put into building something magnificent. It is real shame they didn't want to keep it, a generation or so below those adults, probably wanted it saved but were denied due to that one generation that gets control and is in charge of the estate. Been through with my greedy grand parents that wouldn't hold paper Christmas decorations I wanted to keep in the family for just 2 weeks/weekends (my next parental visitation, divorced parents) for when I could see them & give them the 50 cents for them. It was in the mid 1980's and my cheap ass parents only gave me A quarter of dollar aka 25 cents per week , "" to teach me value of money"". I had spent the $6.50 (I remember this amount vividly because I had saved it for months to get it that high, and this was important enough to spend it on) I had saved up to that point, but just didn't have enough to get more of the family's heirloom(to me real world value less than few dollars, yes they overcharged me) Christmas decorations from my great grandparent. All I needed and pleaded for was 2 weeks of allowance and 2 weeks to visitation to just please hold the box, my divorced parent there wouldn't come off 50 cents because he paid child support.... he just wasn't the type of person that should a father.... My word was good, I wasn't asking to be given that (in hindsight they should have) and then pay, I asked them to hold it I would pay them, when I got to see them next. My heartless greedy gold digging grandparents (the daughter and son of each great grand parents estates) refused to do that for their own grand child, who was trying to keep stuff in the family. While They fire sale both of the great grand parents estates on that side, grand kids and great grand kids got nothing, and the family farm /Homestead lands (where the great grand kids were told we would be able to build houses on if we wanted to, as it had been family land for generations was gone *poof*) not much about 50 acres of then over grown farm land... At the time the though of also living on land in walking distance to each other seemed like the greatest thing ever. Those gold digger instead got to get a RV motor home to waste money on. Destroying multiple generations of wealth that was had been saved and passed down, by every generation until them. So that the next ones would have more than the ones before. That they then blew through it all on stupid self absorbed crap. That left nothing of value, their own kids didn't even watch their picture albums of them vacationing around the country blowing through the money. Worst thing about that 50 cent box of paper decorations, they looked home made so I figured they were made by family I didn't get to meet for dying before I was born.... they just threw those Christmas decorations in the trash because no one bought them at their estate yard/fire sale of belonging. So if you have something you care about make sure you give to the people before you die, make sure it is in your will specifically what you want done with it. Do not trust your kids, you spouse to care about your hobby and prized possessions. Because it is shame what is happening to all this hard work and railroad. Thank the all the gods "old and new", that you were there to save the pieces and are bringing them into your railroad. My the original Owner have their Fallen Flag Preserved on your lines.
I assure you, that this is probably not the case here. The family lives in Alaska and cannot properly care for the railroad. The decent thing to do is sell it to someone who can care for it.
@@MillBrookRailroad Better sold than scrapped, but due to my life experiences and watching many people die and then how their families acted, with vulture behavior of heirs, I've seen the worst more than the better. So I worry about the family you might not have seen or heard from. Too little and young to be included, even deliberately kept away. Your friend was lucky to get it all for so cheap. You are a very honorable person for buying the rest to then keep The Ossipee Central Railroad in service making what repairs are needed that will keeping the name alive. Maybe a place for their spirit to come visit and enjoy watching that OCR stock keep on rolling. I wonder if that 22177 on the Tanker was the date it was built , as either Jan 22 1977 or February 21 1977 for matting. As I would guess they chose the number for a certain reason. Might be something interesting to find out from the sellers. I hope you have influx of fresh younger generations to make sure things stay running on the Mill Brook Railroad for the longer term. The land will always be issue for under threat , as they just aren't making any more. With any land near anything is wanted by developers, so they care bulldoze it for their projects, with no concern of the history. Any government will leverage their power to get that land they want to expand on, no matter what history is there. Even the Personal Railroads in smaller towns seem to suffer that same threat. Which leaves people like us in battle through time, against momentary and short sighted greed people, with hopes that a future generation will understand they are also only the caretakers of items for the next future generations, who are also only the care takers for the next future generations. Which those people will be also only the ...... I hope are able to get more materials and old photos of Ossipee Central Railroad from them as they find them, clearing things out. Would be great to have a small display of people and the flags of the past, as you rescue more & more into the Mill Brook. Showing "merger" history if you will.
So are you talking about dismantling the tracks in panels and saving whole sections of track, or just scrapping out the rails and putting on brand new ties? How bad are the ties now? I'd think with a 28-ft gooseneck flatbed, you could probably haul all the rails in one trip. But if you did panels, you're probably talking 5 or 6 trips, yeah?
@@MillBrookRailroad northeast PA. I had a demolition and salvage company and used to scrap coal breakers and mines. He wasn’t too far from me, maybe southern tier NY or right around the Scranton area.
This is happening to a 7.5" gauge railroad near me called the Annetta Valley and Western. There is a brand new school across the street from it and developers are hungry for the 9 acres of land. Fortunately, it will get moved to Springtown, TX further north of it's current location. It won't be the same but at least we get to save the track.
The Annetta Valley and Western is moving? That's too bad that the developers didn't want to be good neighbors. It could have been a good community anchor.
@MillBrookRailroad Yeah, developers want every single piece of land they can possibly get. At least there will still be an Annetta Valley and Western, just not in the same place it has been for all those years.
@@trainchasergaming3533 Wow.
@@MillBrookRailroadAnyways, I'm glad to see that you were able to help preserve this historical 7-1/4" gauge railroad. Very neat strech of track. Great video as usual by the ways!
When developers & real estate people smell money, they are like sharks. These people eat their own young. I watched it where I lived. If you don''t sell the land, then they hire criminals to set the property structures on fire & force you to leave. I watched one halloween eve's night, 45 years ago, when they burned an old navy training airport whose owners & pilots would not sell the property. Real estate people associate with thuggery so they have a "ready" force to deal with anyone who does not go their way! Not an honest one to ever be found!
Wow, that is so cool! I am glad that you are saving the railroad. The last run will be an historic event that really needs documented as I know it will. Years ago I lived in Vermont but haven't been back since
How would you like to do a collaborative video? www.millbrookrailroad.com
Beautiful place! Most of us railfans have supportive families or we couldn’t do our crazy projects. Unfortunately, once we are gone, the family generally wants to move on. Such is the temporary nature of life. Glad you can save this, wish I was closer.
What often happens to these little railways is the family doesn't want it, they don't know who to call to sell it to, and so it goes out to the curb.
My first steam engine was a rescue. It was a 2-1/2" gauge pacific with a copper boiler and Baker valve gear. The guy who built it was a ham radio friend of mine, and one day, he mailed me a letter, telling me that he had a steam engine I could have and if I didn't want it, it was going out to the curb. I immediately phoned him and arranged a pick-up. That's what got me into this hobby of ride-on trains back in 2005.
A beautiful spot and a famous railroad. My brother used to visit it with his kids back in the 80's. Glad you're able to save parts of it. Thanks for doing so.
I'm going to save all the parts I can.
Staring at your cell phone will never experience the same joy the builder had making this dream come true. Another incredible hobby slowly diminishing to non-existence.
My experience has shown that this hobby is not diminishing. There are more railways of this size being built than being torn up, and staring at your phone has been largely responsible.
So, don't be discouraged. There's still hope for the younger generation.
I've found that this is one of the few subsets of model railroad hobby that are actually growing, as there seems to be more youth interest in something you can actually ride and operate like the full-size equipment than there is in the smaller scales. Kids like the interactivity and technically-minded young adults like being able to actually build something with a functional use.
A model train is, at the end of the day, a visual approximation of a train. A miniature train IS a train, it can do work and carry passengers. Plus, the much larger layouts feel less like you're going around in circles.
This is very cool, glad to see an old steamer on the Railroad. I'm very excited to see where all of this goes.
I've definitely enjoyed seeing the steamers at this scale. Every one of them was built, managed, operated and maintained by someone who really has a love for the hobby.
Thanks! It is an exciting time.
There was this 7 1/4" gauge railroad somewhere in Michigan that closed down recently, I don't remember it's name but it had an awesome track plan, and I really wanted to get up there and buy one of their battery electric locomotives and a few freight cars to start my own little farm railroad, but they just divided up all the equipment between three of the members and wiped the land clean like there was nothing ever there, and what they didn't want ended up in a scrapyard or was burned. Really glad to see yall wanting to save this road keep it's memory alive rather than tossing it aside.
Sadly, that happens all too often. I've pulled up several railroads over the years. The first one was to get it out of the way of a new driveway.
I've found new homes for a couple railroads over the years. Most of the time, I can just connect the seller with a buyer, but sometimes I get to take it home.
I think I used to pass by the OCR on my way to Freedom , NH to my great grandmothers . The RR I saw was off of RT 16 on a side road . Great that you can save it !!!
you are so lucky to have all that fun. enjoy. if i was near, i would be there helping you guys. great job. thanks for posting
I appreciate the thought. If you're ever in Vermont, look up Mill Brook Railroad. Open by appointment.
I am glad you can save it and give it new life, estate sales always make me sad
It is merely the end of a chapter, not the end of the book.
When I was a kid, I always wanted something like this in my backyard. Now that I am an adult in my early 40s..... I still want something like this in my backyard! Amazing!!
I would start with this book. discoverlivesteam.com/books/track_building.htm
The Backyard Railroading group on Facebook is a good place to go for support. Just answer the gateway questions as best you can, and you'll get in.
thanks for preserving a historic 7 1/2 rail way lots a memories was made while sitting there and new memories to be made and added
Thanks!
Thank you!
I’ve visited this railway ages ago and even driven the speeder/trailer, great to see it going to a good home
Thanks!
Good luck with this project. I hope you manage to raise the funds and get this railroad moved to its new location.
Man kann richtig sehen, wieviel Mühe und Fleiß in der Anlage steckt. Sie haben ein sehr schönes und großes Grundstück.
Macht weiter! Werde regelmäßig auf Euren Kanal gehen und nachsehen.
Grüße aus Berlin / germany
Danke!
Congrats on your acquisition. I know you will put it to good use! Thanks for sharing!
This will give you plenty of track for the extension of the Millbrook. Hope you can save a lot of the rock too. Rent a dump trailer to move to the Millbrook.
I hadn't thought of saving the stone, but I do have access to a dump truck.
Depending on the cost of stone, it's probably not worth it to try to save old stone like that. You'd also have to sift it and get all the crud out of it. If you had access to a 1/8th scale ballaster machine! (Hmm, there's a money-making idea!)
@SD40Fan_Jason Not much money in a machine like that unless you own it and provide services to club tracks.
...but you're probably right about the ballast. It's $16 per ton from the local quarry and an 83 mile drive from the OCR.
@@SD40Fan_Jason That's a great idea!Cory Mears
@MillBrookRailroad if a gooseneck dump trailer can haul 5 ton, how much is gas going to cost for the round trip?
I doubt it does much more than break even vs having it delivered.
9:02. Is that on old Model A I spotted? My dad had one for years. Convertible with the "rumble seat". Your efforts to save the railroad are admirable! I bet that steamer has some good stories to tell. She's a beaut.
That may have been either a T or an A. It's part of a larger collection.
The steamer is actually historically significant. Restoration has already started.
That's a model A, that's the Hot rodders dream machine.
You certainly need to get that steam engine operating on the MBRR. That would be cool as heck to see a steam engine pulling your pellet trains up that grade! :)
won't be run in the winter time with steam.... Rain Cools the boiler down very fast i have seen it first hand while working with a full sized steam traction engine!
@@GRE2057 That is interesting, I can run my 1:32 scale model Mikado in the winter, Had it fired even on denatured alcohol at 15 deg. one time. and I run and fire a real 2 ft. gauge 0-4-0 in the winter and they both steam just fine. Maybe that traction engine doesn't have proper lagging on it? I burn coal in the engines I run, that might make a difference too. But back in the day, Farmers used those engines in winter didn't they? I don't know just assuming they would for plowing and other uses. Anyhow, I have also seen 7 1/2" gauge Northern's plowing snow on club layouts in winter here on RUclips. I am inclined to think there is something not right with the engine you saw that time, or the fuel it was burning? Very strange that rain would effect it much at all. It was pouring down rain here in Ohio on Sunday July 2nd, and I was firing the 0-4-0 and even with soaking wet coal, it was no issue keeping steam up. ruclips.net/video/y4o_urComAQ/видео.html&ab_channel=TheSteamChannel
The steam engine will run on the MLBK, but I don't think I'll put it through the abuse that the WP-1 will put it through. Maybe I'll run it on the WP-2 a time or two. It'll certainly be run on the CSX-1. That's not a very heavy train.
I think it's safe to assume that I'll run it in the winter, but only after I build the track going into the basement shop.
@@MillBrookRailroad I am curious to see how much she will pull. We might be surprised. She is little, but might be mighty. I have to sprinkle sand sometimes on my rails with the heavy coal trains I run on my layout, and we pull a 6% grade on the narrow gauge I run on. when it is raining we have to use sand to get up that too. I am probably as excited as you are Aaron to see that baby run. :) Please do videos on the tube repair and other things you do to put her back in service. I never dreamed someday I would see Steam on the MBRR. So cool! :)
None of my locomotives cool with the rain as they have boiler jackets and by the looks so does this locomotive
Well Mill Brook Railroad I’m very proud of you and I hope you will have a lot of fun with your new stuff and take them with pride and let’s keep the mill brook railroad expansion coming together and I can see you had fun on the speeder.
Thank you very much!
@@MillBrookRailroad your welcome and enjoy your new trains and you can ask some of your friends to help you restore the 2-6-0 steam locomotive
I wish you the best with this undertaking. Glad to see these old trains being refurbished and saved from the scrap heap.
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
THANKS, THE NEXT TIME MY HUSBANND & MYSELF TAKE A MOTORCYCLE ROAD TRIP FROM Kingman, Az. WE'LL TRY TO STOP BY FOR A LOOK & SEE.
We have to relocate the railroad. It'll have a new home at the Mill Brook Railroad in Windsor, Vermont.
Living in LA, I am fortunate to have a club/museum nearby (LA Live Steamers) that is not susceptible to disbandment if the owner dies. I believe the club owns the property it sits on. Walt Disney was a founding member. They have a wonderful collection and attract many fine displays of equipment.
Sadly, I never went to Griffith Park when I worked in LA back in the 90's, so I never got to see it.
L.A. Live Steamers in Griffith Park was used by Steve Martin, and Bernadette Peter's in the movie, "The Jerk" when she was babysitting the little boy brat who stole the Little Engines 4-4-2, 3000, for a joy ride. Hi 👋 🤩in July 2023A.D!!
Glad that you saved the remains of that 71/4 inch rail road. Thanks.
In the end, I will have helped save all of it. Even the parts that would have normally been scrapped.
Glad you’re saving that railroad Aaron for the Mill brook railroad collection 👍🏻 Exciting times coming 🏴
Hi Aaron, thanks for the heads up on the future of your videos and railroad. I am so excited!!I am going to enjoy the channel even more than ever now that the MLBK railroad has more types of trains and train cars. I have been a fan of the channel ever since I watched the first video. Cory Mears
Thanks for watching!
You have made a wonderful purchase. How pleasant is the ride on this miniature railway!
It's fun that I get to share with anyone who asks for a train ride.
What a shame, moving those rails, thank you for making a video before that track is gone
If you do a series on getting the steam engine running, I'll definitely be here for it
@chrisgage1051 Me too!
I've already filmed two episodes. They're in the edit process.
@@MillBrookRailroad Awesome! Can't wait
Good luck.
Sweeeet, congratulations on your new aquisition!
Thanks!!
9:03 that car really caught my eye, always wanted something like that
Good luck to ya, from one VT man to another!
Thanks!
The old 20s ford in the background is beautiful
The barns are full of them.
I remember a neighbor telling me about a miniature railroad on a wooded lot in my neighborhood in the 1960s. I just remember the lot with no track by the 1970s by the time I got interested in these. Big modern house sitting there now.
These railways are ethereal, by their very nature. This one lasted much longer than most, but it was mainly because of the age of the owner. He was a teenager when he built it. The property was in the family, and he eventually ended up owning it right up to the time he died at age 83. That's a rare situation.
This is very cool! And…….cute! I had no idea this scale of railway existed
Thanks for watching! This channel is all about rideable backyard railroads. Have a look around!
Very cool I love big railroads and model railroads this this railroad is right down my alley
Thanks! There are more little railways like this on this channel.
looks like a lot of fun. wish i could own one.
There are clubs around the country. You don't necessarily need to own a train to enjoy one.
Nice work, Hank!
I couldn't have done this without Hank's help.
That is a really cool small steam locomotive.
Thanks! It is a Scotty Mogul. There are updated drawings for it at ibls.org.
Awesome, looking forward to your new adventure.
With this acquisition, I believe it is time for a name change.
Welcome to... The Mill Brook Empire! (cue sinister orchestral music) 😎
Mill Brook Kansas City Southern
Or, MOX if you prefer.
Mill Brook Central?
@@MillBrookRailroad But with an empire, you could be Darth Gaugeous.
This is an absolute feat! Good on you!
Cool, old steam engines😎
I don't have the land nor money for it but it'd be SO cool to have a miniature railroad, especially steam.
Glad to see this railroad being preserved to the best of your ability!
Ngl, I'm kinda excited to see what you do with the Steam Engine.
Watch this space...
I almost bought a small roller coaster from a closed down park in the Adirondacks of NY...It sat for 20+ years in an overgrown field.
Storyland?
2:47 @@MillBrookRailroad Sherman's park Caroga lake NY ....So close but not fast enough..They scrapped it....Google Images of the park and you will see the coaster ..I rod that coaster back in the late 60s and it was a family hangout every weekend😭
Thanks for saving the Ossipee Railway. I made a modest donation on the Gofundme website. I lived in Nashua NH from 1980 until 2001. Now live in Tennessee not far from Mid South Steamers in Columbia TN . I had 2 strokes in 2021 and use a hemiwalker to get around now.
Thanks for the donation! Every little bit helps.
We have a huge 7.5 in pompano FL it inside a county park but privately run
The top of the tracks are rusted, so I guess this "was" an abandoned railroad, and now you guys are restoring it to its former glory.
That's not rust. It's patina (LOL). It only goes away with a LOT of traffic.
@@MillBrookRailroad thanks for telling me I didn't know that can happen.
That thing can HAUL!!! Never grow up 😊
Haha! Love your comment! I don't get speeding or reckless driving tickets anymore.
Is that rusty Phaeton body that was trackside for sale??? Thanks for saving this railway....always wanted my own. There is a company not far from me in Boons Mill VA that makes trains like this.....need to visit! Thanks
The car isn't for sale. It is part of a much larger collection of Ford T's and A's.
I am just surprised that for an abandoned track, it is in such a good shape and still ridable.
It hadn't been abandoned for long. The last maintenance was in July, 2022, when Dwight held a meet for the North East Live Steamers club, of which he and I were both members. He died around the 19th of December, 2022. Sadly, I never made it to any of the meets at his house due to work commitments.
Love this. Good luck with it
well done arron. hope it all goes well.
Thanks!
This was a good friend of mine. He told me he had it professionally surveyed to get the track laid out, and you see the result. Nice gentle curves.
I only knew him in passing from my brief work with the WW&F in 2007. I wish I'd known him better. I really couldn't bear the thought of his railway being split up and parts of it with an uncertain future. It will be preserved at a new location with a different track plan, but it will all be used and taken care of. I've already started restoring the steam engine.
I hope Dwight would have approved.
@@MillBrookRailroad I am sure it would have. I am glad you are able to keep it all together. I only visited it once, but was very impressed.
NASCAR road courses (eg. Road America in WI) go in clockwise direction too!
track is easy to move. pending how it was made. most likely in 8 to 10 foot long sections. number of trips on a heavy duty pu truck trailer. long bed 1 ton. or use a 5 ton truck with a mid level trailer for that truck. might just cut the rail at the joiners due to rusty bolts/nuts. couple batt powered sawzalls. or gas powered chop saw. couple people there. (one for safety, one to do the work). couple others to stack the rail in a rail car to take to re-stack into the waiting truck.
start at the far point of the loop. work to the loading area. then do the "other half. the other direction. the fun part will be the lifting the turn table. you will need a very strong crane. pending how well is was set in concrete. got a portable jack hammer? 3-4 good backs for digging?
but great you are protecting the past for the future.
I have some of that planned out already, but I'm still working on how to get the lift out of the ground there and into the ground here.
@@MillBrookRailroad If a crane is too much, try a tow truck or an "A" frame.
I’ve got other things to worry about is I need to start making my own 7.5 inch gauge railroad
There are some weeds, but overall, the track seems to be in good shape. That’s encouraging.
It was pretty well maintained over the years, and the owner died in March, so it has only been this spring and summer without maintenance.
@@MillBrookRailroad I wonder if the new property owners could be convinced to not remove the railroad, but to keep it? They could even charge 5 to 10 dollars a ride and the neighborhood children (yes, adults also) would love it and the money could go to the upkeep of the property.
@armandoperez7967 The family is keeping the property, but they don't want the liability of the railroad. The really good news is that the guy who built the railroad was really active in the local community and also very active in railway preservation in New England, so there's a lot of good will surrounding this railroad. People in the community are sad to see it go, but happy that it's going to be preserved.
@@MillBrookRailroad There is still much to be happy about!
Gee bro almost enough track to make yours a double track on your property even with your planned extension. Do hope all goes well with lifting of this track and extra bits that go with it. Safe travels. Ken.
It will work well for doubling the size of the railroad.
Cool video 😊
Thanks 😁
Well as before it wouldn’t be a MBR video without a derailment 😊👋👍and I’ve believed I’ve seen the equipment at mid south
Mid South? Probably not. Different track gauge. Maybe it reminds you of something else?
@@MillBrookRailroadremember that 7 & 1/4 can use 7 & 1/2 track but not the other way 👍😊
Fantastic! I really hope that the entire railroad can be saved! I wonder what a 7 and 1/4 inch scale Big Boy or 2-6-6-6 Allegheny would look like on this railroad?
Those engines would be way too big on this little railroad. There's too much sudden up and down for a big Mallet to stay on the tracks at the current home of the OCR. The MLBK would be even more unsuitable with our light rail on most of the railroad, limiting us to 250 lbs per axle. The failure point of our light rail is closer to 350 lbs per axle. Something those big mallets exceed.
As for the railroad: it will be saved one way or another.
Saw this video and took a look. An incredible amount of work to build this railroad but I would think after riding it a few cycles, it would get boring. To each his own I guess.
This particular railroad does tend to get boring after a few times around, but it can't stay where it is. It'll be used to make the Mill Brook Railroad bigger. The MLBK has hills, S curves, sidings, and a beginning and end. No running in circles. The ends, when it is finished, will be separated by a forest and nearly 50 feet of elevation.
I understand why 7 1/2" came about but I wish they would've kept it 7 1/4 "". Now it's like HO, the right size trains running on the wrong size track. Cool video!
I agree. It would be a lot easier if the whole country were 7-1/4" gauge, like the rest of the world.
@@MillBrookRailroadI'm a bit out of my element here, being into 3-rail O-gauge, but it seems like a quarter-inch difference in gauge would be within a margin of error for the trackwork of trains of this size. How did a difference that small become an issue?
That's awesome
If I had the opportunity to. I would be down to help rebuild the railroad.
That's what is known in Ossipee as Chicks Crossing Rail Road. I haven't seen it run in a few years. Now it's gone.
I haven't pulled up the rails yet, but when I do move it, you'll be able to visit it at the Mill Brook Railroad in Windsor, VT. Open by appointment year round. www.millbrookrailroad.com
Hopefully the steam train work after you fix it 🎉
If it doesn't work, then it isn't fixed.
Aaron how is the progress going? you have to take the track, what about the ballast?
if it is close by, it will not be too bad to transport all of the cars and track. will you get a hi cube
truck to move the track? it looks like it has a long loops of track. great video, nice set up
to be saved! good luck, keep us posted.
I have moved most of the rolling stock to temporary storage in the indoor yard at the Shady Pines Railroad. One more trip will get the rest of the rolling stock closer to home. Then, I'll plan one last meet at the track where we'll run for half a day, then pull up the track when we're done.
The turntable, steaming bays and engine house will take more time.
I also need to prepare the new space on the MLBK for the engine facility. That's why I'm doing a fundraiser on Go Fund Me and on PayPal and Patreon. This is going to take a lot to move and preserve.
I've already started with the steam engine. Look for videos of that soon.
Cool beans....
Its beautiful 🥺
It'll be even more beautiful in its new location.
You said that the track was c channel. Can you do a close up of how the track was done.
I can in a future video.
Nice. Best a luck with it.
Thanks!
Nice!
Thanks!
@@MillBrookRailroad No problem!😁
The locomotive was bought by Dwight in June 1962. 662. The boiler was built in England but Al Rothamel did the rest in Marblehead. They weren’t unique, Carl designed them to be easy to build there are a couple still kicking today.
I looked it for Dwight when he punched a hole in the tube. Boiler will need some work before it will hold pressure in it.
Dwight's brother turned out not to be a reliable source of information.
The flue that is loose: was Dwight trying to remove it or repair it?
@@MillBrookRailroad Buckey is a nice guy but clueless. He was trying to replace it. He had not run it for a while and decided once he retired he was going to get it going again. He was trying to clean it but the copper had degraded enough in that tube(and maybe the rest of the boiler) that he was able to get a bore brush stuck in there and puncture the tube side.
Drive by the OCR frequently. Glad it will be saved. What is the rail road in Brookfield, NH on rt 109? Not too far from OCR. Might be another potential save!
I believe that's a 2-foot gauge railroad. I don't know much about it, though.
Man if I had money I'd like to have that blue gas mechanical as my first locomotive
Locomotives like that little blue gas mechanical are a good entry point to the hobby. They are usually in poor condition, but with some work and a few parts, they are a good deal for not a lot of money.
молодцы мужики у вас же столько километров железной дороги это так пиздато
Tell us more about that Tudor sedan.
It's part of a collection, and there was a not for sale sign on it at one point.
Are there any plans to have 662 reassembled and back in running order?
Absolutely! I've already started restoring it. Videos coming soon.
We have 1 of these mini railways her in the uk and it cost around between £2 to £3.00 gbp to go on it and it goes round a track a few times its at a place called moss bank park its a cool thing
The UK has many little railways like this that inspire the imagination and instigate people to build more little railways.
The most fitting thing here is that the former owner of this railway was very active in railway preservation up to the day he died, and now his railway will be preserved, albeit at a different location.
Now for the task of moving an entire railway! Watch this space.
Im so glad ur fixing and retstoing this mini railway i look foward to more of your videos on this mini railway its a cool thing.
I noticed the clip of the lady seemingly talking to the engine has me wondering what that was about seems there might be alot of emotional attachment to the engine
No emotional attachment. The taller one was my wife, and she was probably talking to me.
Heck yeah!
I know you wont want to run the steamer hard, but you'd be surprised at how much those things can pull.
I'll have to restore it first.
Народ развлекается как только может! People are having as much fun as they can!
У нас очень весело.
Will you be saving one of those tractors too? Tractors come in handy when building and maintaining a railroad. Are you salvaging the roundhouse, lifts, and all track too?
Not the tractor, but everything connected to the railroad. The track, the turntable, the steaming bays, the roundhouse, the tools, the coal stock -everything.
Good Job and sad reminder that when we pass our collections and hobbies, we painstakingly built will often be just disposed of by our families or worse someone designated to handle clearing out your estate . That has no care and/or concern for legacy, the value, nor all the time you spent put into building something magnificent. It is real shame they didn't want to keep it, a generation or so below those adults, probably wanted it saved but were denied due to that one generation that gets control and is in charge of the estate.
Been through with my greedy grand parents that wouldn't hold paper Christmas decorations I wanted to keep in the family for just 2 weeks/weekends (my next parental visitation, divorced parents) for when I could see them & give them the 50 cents for them. It was in the mid 1980's and my cheap ass parents only gave me A quarter of dollar aka 25 cents per week , "" to teach me value of money"". I had spent the $6.50 (I remember this amount vividly because I had saved it for months to get it that high, and this was important enough to spend it on) I had saved up to that point, but just didn't have enough to get more of the family's heirloom(to me real world value less than few dollars, yes they overcharged me) Christmas decorations from my great grandparent. All I needed and pleaded for was 2 weeks of allowance and 2 weeks to visitation to just please hold the box, my divorced parent there wouldn't come off 50 cents because he paid child support.... he just wasn't the type of person that should a father.... My word was good, I wasn't asking to be given that (in hindsight they should have) and then pay, I asked them to hold it I would pay them, when I got to see them next. My heartless greedy gold digging grandparents (the daughter and son of each great grand parents estates) refused to do that for their own grand child, who was trying to keep stuff in the family.
While They fire sale both of the great grand parents estates on that side, grand kids and great grand kids got nothing, and the family farm /Homestead lands (where the great grand kids were told we would be able to build houses on if we wanted to, as it had been family land for generations was gone *poof*) not much about 50 acres of then over grown farm land... At the time the though of also living on land in walking distance to each other seemed like the greatest thing ever. Those gold digger instead got to get a RV motor home to waste money on. Destroying multiple generations of wealth that was had been saved and passed down, by every generation until them. So that the next ones would have more than the ones before. That they then blew through it all on stupid self absorbed crap. That left nothing of value, their own kids didn't even watch their picture albums of them vacationing around the country blowing through the money. Worst thing about that 50 cent box of paper decorations, they looked home made so I figured they were made by family I didn't get to meet for dying before I was born.... they just threw those Christmas decorations in the trash because no one bought them at their estate yard/fire sale of belonging.
So if you have something you care about make sure you give to the people before you die, make sure it is in your will specifically what you want done with it. Do not trust your kids, you spouse to care about your hobby and prized possessions.
Because it is shame what is happening to all this hard work and railroad. Thank the all the gods "old and new", that you were there to save the pieces and are bringing them into your railroad.
My the original Owner have their Fallen Flag Preserved on your lines.
I assure you, that this is probably not the case here. The family lives in Alaska and cannot properly care for the railroad. The decent thing to do is sell it to someone who can care for it.
@@MillBrookRailroad Better sold than scrapped, but due to my life experiences and watching many people die and then how their families acted, with vulture behavior of heirs, I've seen the worst more than the better. So I worry about the family you might not have seen or heard from. Too little and young to be included, even deliberately kept away.
Your friend was lucky to get it all for so cheap. You are a very honorable person for buying the rest to then keep The Ossipee Central Railroad in service making what repairs are needed that will keeping the name alive. Maybe a place for their spirit to come visit and enjoy watching that OCR stock keep on rolling. I wonder if that 22177 on the Tanker was the date it was built , as either Jan 22 1977 or February 21 1977 for matting. As I would guess they chose the number for a certain reason. Might be something interesting to find out from the sellers.
I hope you have influx of fresh younger generations to make sure things stay running on the Mill Brook Railroad for the longer term. The land will always be issue for under threat , as they just aren't making any more. With any land near anything is wanted by developers, so they care bulldoze it for their projects, with no concern of the history. Any government will leverage their power to get that land they want to expand on, no matter what history is there. Even the Personal Railroads in smaller towns seem to suffer that same threat.
Which leaves people like us in battle through time, against momentary and short sighted greed people, with hopes that a future generation will understand they are also only the caretakers of items for the next future generations, who are also only the care takers for the next future generations. Which those people will be also only the ......
I hope are able to get more materials and old photos of Ossipee Central Railroad from them as they find them, clearing things out. Would be great to have a small display of people and the flags of the past, as you rescue more & more into the Mill Brook. Showing "merger" history if you will.
Feel free to movies it all of my house in East Texas. 4 acres and we can build a bridge across the pond
Sweeeeeet!👌
From the short amount of video, that's a nicely maintained railway... Pitty to remove it...
It'll be nicely maintained at its new home at the Mill Brook Railroad.
Is it going to snow there?
Do they own a snow plow?
Yes, it snows here, but like most railways of this size, it didn't typically run in the winter. The Mill Brook Railroad is a rare exception.
I was there for the last meet last summer. If i remember the Loco needs to be retubed.
It does need tube work.
@@MillBrookRailroad due to all the carbon it will be hard to silver solder new tubes good luck
@@davetaylor4744 That's what they make glass bead blasting media for.
Will the tracks be reused for some of the planned track at Mill Brook?
It will all be used on the MLBK track extension.
Had one near me but somebody burned down the main building and it had to close
That's awful!
That line needs a left turn or two. Maybe a tunnel.
In a few months, it'll all be 83 miles from there, ready to install at its new home.
So are you talking about dismantling the tracks in panels and saving whole sections of track, or just scrapping out the rails and putting on brand new ties? How bad are the ties now? I'd think with a 28-ft gooseneck flatbed, you could probably haul all the rails in one trip. But if you did panels, you're probably talking 5 or 6 trips, yeah?
I'm planning to pull up the track, separate the rails from the ties, and reuse as much as I can.
@@MillBrookRailroad Anyone use "engineered" plastic lumber for railroad ties? It doesn't rot but does sag more over time.
I gave a guy around 8000 feet of mine car track about 15 years ago for his miniature railroad. I wonder how he made out with it?
No idea. Where was he?
@@MillBrookRailroad northeast PA. I had a demolition and salvage company and used to scrap coal breakers and mines. He wasn’t too far from me, maybe southern tier NY or right around the Scranton area.
Pls say he keeps the steam locimotive it would fit right in
I am already in the process of restoring it.
Hihows your turn table lift work please
It works on hydraulic pressure.
Thanks