Andre Cymone: Leaving Prince's Band and Going Solo
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Andre talks to St. Paul Peterson about his experience being in a band with Prince, and then ultimately leaving that band to start his own solo career.
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I give Andre more props producing Jody Watley's hits. Him in her videos was lit
Yeah Man, Andre is one of the most underrated there's ever been!! He got it all started, people just don't know this!
Yeah, most don't. But you and I do! He was the truth.
you're absolutely right, a lot of people don't know this cat wrote "DO ME BABY" and who know's what else.
@@ernestsmothers8355 And a lot of basslines plus got them all started in His band, where Prince was just a member!
Fr fr!!!!
Andre had his hits too!✨and He is Part of The Prince Legacy!
He and Dr Fink are my fav P musicians of the early years
Respect ! Andre for wanting to do your own thing!
Minneapolis was such a concentrated cauldron of phenomenal musicians in the 70's, it's quiet an amazing African American story of perseverance, excellence and success. I wish somebody would do a movie with all these characters.
My first Prince Concert was in 1981 and Andre Cymone was the bass player...So many times Prince would wander away from the mic and Andre would sing his parts-effortlessly...He is so low key and down to earth...He is the most underated talent to come out of that whole thing...When he left that band Prince lost something-Andre-Dez and Prince were hands down the best version of that band and when Dez left I lost all interest because I didn't like the direction after that...it's kind of sad all three of them never got back together...I can dream...But luckily for me I saw the whole thing up close and personal in Chicago at the best concert venue for what they were doing -THE PARK WEST...Sorry I was so very long winded.
I saw when Andre was the bass player and when he left I saw Prince again with Brown Mark.. Personally I thought Brown Mark played and stayed in the pocket a little better than Dre but don’t get me wrong Dre did his thang , especially when it came to being part of the BGV.’s
April of '80, opening for Rick James, the original front line with Gayle Chapman on keys...& I was there. Tickets were maybe $8.00. Where have all the good times gone?!?!?!
facts!
Bro, I've been saying this for years & I totally agree with u! Andre, Prince, & Dez; when they were together, that was in my opinion his best band! Not to take anything away from the Revolution or NPG; each band was different! It's just those 3 were raw funk n roll! NPG was more classy, a more mature sound! The Revolution was a mixture of both!
You are very fortunate to have been in the audience to witness greatness unfolding!!
I bought his first two albums 💜 the 1st one "Kelly's Eyes " is still a great song and Andre is an awesome producer
Underrated. still GORGEOUS!!!
loved him with Jody Watley!
*oh, and I'm listening to Kelly's eyes....
I remember I loved the song dance electric prince gave Andre that song it was an awesome song . I’ve been watching that video today that song is still amazing today love it . And Andre looked a lot like prince in that video . Prince was a good generous person
They all look(ed) so young, Prince, Morris Day, Andre Cymone... Healthy air in Mnpls?!
40 years ago..
Black don't crack.
Black don't crack and Minneapolis is cold
Check out the interview with Pepe Willi of 94 East fame. Andre wasn't playing the bass part right so Prince takes the bass from him and says, "no Andre, play the part like this." Before prince could finish the phrase, Andre was like, "ok, I see what you want." He takes the bass back from Prince and plays exactly what he wants to hear. Pepe is there with his jaw on the floor like, "ok, what's going on here?" lol.
"Baby, Don't Go!" 2023 and I'm still jamming to your music, Sir. Andre Cymone.🙏
I see people defending prince against someone who is basically a relative, Andre didn’t say anything that already known to the public, when the media and record companies disrespected prince I didn’t see any backlash from the so called fans learn your history before you disrespect the great Andre Cymone who helped push prince into the most diverse and talented musician ever
St Paul interviewing Andrea Cymone! Coolest
Can't believe how young he looks! He looks like he was born in the 80th not playing music at that time!
Andre was the man love his music
Andre cymone is a good bass player he just didn't get the credit he deserves ..but he did write some of prince biggest hits like DO ME BABY
Andre cymone the great 👍
What about Dance Electric? Prince just gave out songs left and right. Not taking anything away from Andre, but you just gotta know what time it is!
It was not andre energy
I still bump that today!
What about "Looking for a New Love?" That was a monster hit and much bigger than Dance Electric.
@@timothyfitz1010 yes it was
Exactly! The Dance Electric was the only solo hit he ever had……and Prince gave it to him. I hope he is grateful.
When will the Jim Crow line in rock music be erased? Can you imagine if Andre Cymone and Rick James we’re able to do the Rock and Roll they wanted to do? Prince succeeded...but if you look up the music categories his albums are placed in iTunes.......yup “r&b Soul”. That’s like putting the Stones in “disco” because they made “Miss You”. Keep fighting Andre, keep doing YOUR thing!
Our Rock n' Roll culture was unique in America because solo artists could display the vocal and dancing skills, until the invasion of heavy metal. Rock 'n Roll was overlooked as other acts from different cultures saw the opportunity to controlled the masses with visual and digital mediums. It became more about the "look" than the music. They started wearing long hair and leather. Even Elvis was not too pleased about the invasion because he got censored a few times.
Andre inspired me to learn to play the bass guitar. Capri Theatre 1979.
It's funny you say that , my very first concert "The 1999" tour San Diego Sports Arena 1982 , Prince inspired me to play Guitar, It was Eddie Hazel of P-Funk make me put it down, he was that damn great.....
When Andre cymone came to Wisconsin while he was on tour, with The Gap band, he was fabulous and super sexy and the way he played that guitar, was wicked me and my cousin enjoyed that concert that concert didn't end until 1:00 a.m. 🤦🏽♀️
Andre, have to admit it's wonderful hearing you play Prince's songs and some your own, makes me feel like he's still here somehow.
Prince had the record deal. He may have been controlling but he helped a lot of ppl become famous and get attention. I'm sure they helped him with some songs but a lot of what is said is to inflate their egos. He gave them a platform. It was up to them to build from that. Most of them didnt.
I love andre and dez. Those guys were amazing and complimented prince so well.
Prince was the driving power, he made Minneapolis and its music famous all over the world. I love Morris Day, too, heard some new stuff, but that's by far not as good as the songs Prince wrote for him and the Time, Prince even performed and recorded most instruments on their records. Jessie Johnson seems to think he is a great musician and guitarist, well, he surely is, but Prince was better! I suppose one reason is the fact that Prince worked a hundred times harder for his success than the rest
@@najinelson6742 well said
Correct!💯
Fact; a sign of true Jedi greatness is influence and the amount of people you actually help/put in position to make their own way
These videos are very enlightening. Thank you!!
Great interview.
It sounds like Prince, Morris, Andre could have had a pretty nice band. If you add Dez from that area that's a ground breaking 4 piece. What happened to bands? There's no bands that stay together like the Beatles or Queen that go through conflict to reach creative high marks
The Beatles were only a band for 7 years.. the produced and released an extremely extensive portfolio in that short period of time.
Gahdamn he's still fine!
Hella fine!!
Heck yes he's still fine always, but sadly he's married 🤦🏽♀️
I'll let him know what you said
Too me all these guys were extremely talented had the own styles! Prince influenced the work ethic!!!
My favorite andre cymone album is survivin in the 80s
Me too! My favorite track from his whole discography is "M.O.T.F". Very few lyrics, but super atmospheric, ethereal, and futuristic all at once! 😁
Let's keep it Real. Its all about The ''IT'' Factor. The Problem in Prince world, these guys came up with a Short Dude yall knew in High School. In that state of Minneapolis, you are not thinking this Guy will One day be who he is. Andre got it going on. But it's not Magic. Andre is a Rock Star, but from a Local Band point of view. Without The Magic of Prince, we would have not heard from that whole scene. And without Prince, we would not be talking to Andre. Andre has a Lenny Kravitz Sexy. But the Buck Stops. He did good work with Jody Whatley, but then. Prince showed us the Rare side of Real Human Musical Magic. He showed us what Having a True Gift is All Bout. In real Life, ''The Musician'' the One who is God Gifted, gets no Respect. Look and Ravel and Mozart. Can you imagine them in their Time? They got no respect. Walking around with a Bad Smell, Farting all day, eating sandwiches with no Meat, but creating the Greatest Work EVER!! Andre the best thing you can do now is get ''Black Children in a warehouse'' and put instruments in their hands. Hip Hop Rap Thug Culture has captivated the unformed Mind, and has got their ''Lost Mind'' locked into Lyrics that enhanced their Broken mind to flow some stupid ass Government funded section 8 Shit that is verbally senseless! Screams of Passion are no more........Bring Back The Jam Sessions......Now Andre!
Wow that's heavy deep and true
comments like this makes me wish youtube would have a bookmarking feature.
FACTSSS
Farting all day and eating sandwiches without no meat ...now that part right there
Time told the story A.C. is still breathing!!!!
Heureux de te retrouver cher André Cymone. Salut
Andre's ONLY hit was Dance Electric and Prince wrote that. Let's keep it real.
No kelly's eyes was another and and what about some of those hits he wrote for Jody watley
@@purpleflowers149, Kelly's Eyes was not a big hit. It was so so. He HELPED Jody Watley. Those songs were her expression of HER vision SHE had and he helped with the music. Jesse Johnson had better success than he did.
@@mikejordan7239 Kelly's eyes was a big hit they played it everyday on the radio when I was coming up and I was told that he helped wrote some of those songs that she's dancing to why do you think he is in some of those videos, he may have been married to her but he was about his money too, as for Jesse Johnson he was more successful than Andre and he also had a couple of hits but both are now trying to make the best of it
@@purpleflowers149, they may have played it where you live but they didn't play it at all where I live. Dayton Ohio is the Land of FUNGK. You remember the Ohio Players, Slave, Zapp, Lakeside, Sun, Faze O, Heatwave. It was never played here. Matter of fact the song only peaked at number 72 on the Billboard charts. That's far from a big hit. Only top 10 song he had was Dance Electric. Not hating on him just stating facts
I also liked Kelly eyes and 4 sure dance electric
Andre didn’t get caught up in the mix of the debauchery and is still alive
In his 1980s interview on American Bandstand, he's wearing a cross around his neck. In this 2020 interview, he's wearing an Ankh symbol around his neck.
So?
I FINALLY found Livin in the New Wave album on LP last year cuz I spent 4 YEARS searching ALL OVER the country for that record and it will definitely be worth something someday.
I have that album to I bought it when I heard that they released it
uh....did you try the bay? ...there's like 15 of them there....
Andre!!
Andre seems real to me. He could definitely put Prince on blast but he doesn't out of love. Those two boys loved each other. Their connection is timeless. Prince spoke about his love for Andre. That said, yes Andre knew Prince very well 50 years ago for maybe 15 or 20 of those years but like us all we evolve as people. When I think back to the girl I was she's almost unrecognisable. No one can claim to really know me, only parts of me. We often look inwards to see how that person impacted on our lives + & - and rarely tend to walk a mile in their shoes. Was Prince supposed to give ALL those people his hard earned money for the rest of his life? Pay them fairly for the job they do yes, credit them properly yes, but continue to support them financially? Prince was not a millionaire when Andre left and ploughed his money back into his art I guess for new equipment recording space etc whilst looking after mom dad and family financially. Plus I'm sure his management dealt with financial matters as maybe it didn't interest him back then. If it was us, think about it what would we do at age 24? Walk a mile in their shoes. I think Andre understood that hence leaving and going to take care of his own business. Big respect to Andre. I have his last album 1969 and Black Man in America touched my whole being and is so so relevant today. Andre has more to come 👌
The same thing that Prince said the record label did to him, he did to other artists.
Prince gave Andre his first hit .That song was called "The dance electric". Prince wrote ,produced and recorded it himself but he gave it to Andre to help him out.
How could he put Prince on blast?
@@spicyhot2552 hahaha... "gave it to Andre to help him out"... no that's nonsense. Prince did it for his own money and ego. He gets royalties from Dance Electric. The songwriter makes all the money. Andre did Prince a favor by putting Dance Electric on his album.
@theesquireofsports212 bro you're a year late lol
That early band Prince had was the best, With Andre, Dez, Bobby Z, Matt Fink….
My favorite lineup as well.
Same here
he seems to be concealing his real feelings here. Prince is gone now, he doesn't have to hide anything anymore.
Yeah Andre was underrated but he should’ve stayed! Ego messed him up. All he had to do was stick around a lil bit and learn from it
And have Prince steal from him over and over?
@@otakurocklee you are a prince hater. If Andre has all of this talent how come he was not as famous as prince.. Andre is braggert who to has to brag on himself. He did have prince musical abilities.you are very foolish person.
Andre cymone is a genius
Stop lying to yourself. If Andre was a musical genius how come he did not become a super star or a mega star after going solo. Stop.the foolish.
@@ruthavery8245 he did not want it. Like devante is a star but he didn't want it .
@@ruthavery8245 Andre was probably invited to one of those secret Hollywood meetings and decided to go independent.
Let's not forget that he's wrote some cuts for Prince, Jody Watley and Jermaine Stewart.
@AMERICAN GOLD KING stop lying to yourself.
No he is not. He does not have the full package and his best song is Dance Electric.
Glad he was able to continue for awhile with Jody, but I do wonder if he left too soon. Nevrr was able to prove/disprove if Andre's biggest hit dance electric was assisted by Prince? Had Andre & Dez remained for the 1999 tour that would've been the booyaa!! But without them, The Time owned that tour. Andre & Dez were showmen!
Thanks for this. Answers some questions I had for a long time.
I looked this man up because I was so obsessed with Jody watley and learned they were married but had no idea he knew Prince. His music is great. I think he's the real talent. They gave his stuff to prince just my humble opinion.
Yeah, Prince was a mere proper who got everything from him and only made it big because people are stupid enough to think he was actually the one to create everything
@@chasep1310 stop lying to yourself. Do really think he would have allowed prince to rip him off financial. I have seen Andre on the internet performing some of prince songs and he is dull. If Andre could write music so well how come he is not as famous as prince or more famous. You are a prince hater.
It was a stroke sarcasm. Not buying his or all these others that never made it close to the heights they profess they could/should have the ones that did recognise his greatness.
🤣 A Prince hater is something I am very far from believe me. I think the man was a musical/extreme genius that was not only blessed but worked hard to home his abilities/talents/craft. I have no doubt that a lot of people connected to him believe they had what he had because he made it look so easy/natural sometimes.
The only thing I question Prince about a person that likes learning more and more about his genius is his ability to rap and his hesitation to embrace hip-hop as the amount of songs that could have been sampled or collaborated on would have been amazing as well as timeless.
FYO: my favourite colour is Purple and their is only one person responsible for that. 😂🤣😂🤣 blessing to you for your loyal support to him; hope he is smiling for it.
@@chasep1310 you have a bless new year.
@@ruthavery8245 Uhmm Let's Work and Do Me Baby were grooves created by Andre and him not getting credit for them was one of the reasons he left
I believe him on credits for songs! Prince never sounded the same after the Revolution! His 90’s late music years were to his death never produced the hits ever again! Maybe he surrounded himself with people not on his level!
None of Prince's albums sound alike and Purple Rain is waay after Andre ... Sign of the Times is some of the most absolute genius music ever produced evey artist has pieces of work more appreciated than some of their true masterpieces.
@@latoshabradley6575 And After Sign of the Times? I have ALL his albums before he died! Very little of his NPG stuff was on the radio.
@@mkeyw2226 I think a big part of what happened is Prince became famoys enough and well established enough that he didn't have to write and make music specifically for airplay anymore ... he could make true art ... But even still off the top of my head I remember hearing Batdance, Scandalous, Diamonds and Pearls, My Name is Prince, Sexy MF, Insatiable, The Most Beautiful Girl, Pink Cashmere, let's not even get into the 3121 album's success with the grammy nominated hit "Black Sweat" ... and these are just the songs that got air play ... cuz if you ask me that "Art Official Age" albulm released in 2014 is outrageously fabulous ... This is a seriously crazy thing to debate when Google will tell you all you need to know ... but I think the truly telling indicator of Prince' proflic body of work being his alone, is the fact the no one he's ever worked with has ever denied his capcity for that level of greatness.
@@latoshabradley6575 Art Official Age debuted at number five on the Billboard 200 and sold 51,000 copies in its first week. In its second week of sales, the album dropped to number 22 on the chart, selling 15,000 copies, bringing the total to 66,000 copies.
@@mkeyw2226 You said that to say .... ? Not sure I understand what you meant to make known?
It was sad to see Andre leave, then Dez.. I wish they would have had an overbearing personality like Prince, cuz had his friend Andre kept them together, then I feel like Opportunistic Yes men & women wouldn't have been able to get to Prince. He needed a friend badly, breaks my heart.
Play some more surging in the 80s that was funky
Yo, where's that Rebels aabum?
The estate should remaster it and release it. Amazing album
@@jamiistarr66 Never heard it.
Andre always plays it out without saying it directly that prince basicly stole from him...im not a stranger to that prince surtenly was inspired by things andre did and developed some of it to his own songs...but well just sit down and listen to what andre done on his own...its not bad but its not super impressive, but he was a hell of a basist for prince...in another time line i would have loved to hear what Grand central could have become...prince ego would have surtenly had another journey in a real band.
He should have made peace with Prince long enough to get a spot in Purple Rain like Dez. It would have helped his career even more than the hit song, Dance Electric, that Prince gave him years after Purple Rain.
Was so mad when Dre left! Got all Dre's Albums.
I’m sure they show how much gave to Prince
Nobody noticed when Dre left
@@lauraveney1412 there is a reason for that; his terrible albums that have gone back to listen to make that real clear. Kelly’s song was good though
Kelly’s Eyes and What are we doing here are decent? Might have been a good idea to have someone else sing the songs
@@lauraveney1412 think you maybe right as he really did not do them justice apart from that one; I must say it was good
Just read what April said in the comments.No matter what,Andre was good,yet he was not and is not great,so had he stayed with Prince,his career would have blossomed more than it has.I do not have respect for people who talk behind the back's of others.If things were weird between them,then it should have been resolved,then left alone.
Trying to be very objective, but isn’t “The dance electric” not the only song that did something for him? Just recently the Prince demo came out. Why would you do a Prince song if you have your own stuff? Don’t get the whole writhing thing ...
I’m not saying the Andre version is bad, on the contrary...
Andre had another big song prior to that called WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? Then when Prince wanted to reconnect he gave Andre THE DANCE ELECTRIC with Wendy and Lisa on background vocals. Everyone knew Prince wrote the song.
What I’m trying to say and being a co writer on several billboard and UK charts hits is that no one could tell me to let go my co-writing.
This is the part that I don’t get. Sorry. At that time Prince was not even a superstar...
Prince gave Wendy, Lisa, Matt etc. credit on computer bleu , why would he do that instead ?He was on the top of his game. Again, just trying to be objective.
@@tyromelive2851 Actually that happened to Greg Philligenes. He co-wrote Shake Your Body to the Ground with MJ. He thought he was going to get 10% and writer's credit. Just before the album was finished Mike changed his mind! He and Quincy Jones were pissed, and he could have sued. He ended up working with the Jackson Family for years, playing on Off The Wall and Thriller! All of this to say, it depends on the battle you want to fight.
@@xxphactor Michael Jackson paid Greg off so he wouldn't bring a lawsuit they didn't want to ruin Michael Jackson rep especially for his first solo album
People are so funny that's why the revolution was the longest running band he had.
Everyone had history with Prince and I believed he pushed all the people he worked with and made them famous.
And didn't publicly take credit or bragged he was always recruiting people under his Minneapolis umbrella. ☔
I wish them all the best but without Prince Rogers Nelson they hang up their stories.
That's just my opinion.
👊🏾
//: 250Gs is a loan that has to be paid back?
What has he done to show that to you
Andre admitted that Prince had the record deal, so it was never intended that Andre be treated as having a signed contract also. He says he wanted to go his own way, so look how that turned out compared to Prince. All these wanna be’s that started out with Prince and then dropped off to go it alone and are now still using the association with Prince to make them relevant. Prince was a genius and very few could or would ever reach his standard of excellence.
Andre was supposed to be Morris. But he wasn't the side man type. I wish he would have stayed in the Revolution. He was basically just like Prince. I wish he would have been the leader of The Time. But...
Funny hearing that Morris Day was a great drummer, yet I've never heard something that was impressive.
What do you call impressive ? .. Not all drummers necessarily have to have Dave Weckl, Dennis Chambers, Chris Coleman and Gavin Harrison type chops.
@@edennard1 Exactly Erik. If you listen to Irresistible Bitch, that's Morris playing and it WAS Impressive!!
Day's influence in drumming is the drummer for Tower of Power (Gilbadi I think?)...and that guy is pretty good to me!
@@edennard1 Y'all might not understand true drummers. I doubt that Morris can do what Sheila E can do.
@@strauqq1 go check Morris Day playing drums live on RUclips...Morris is a phenomenal drummer...He plays on many Prince and The Time songs too...
I think it was love dog and survin in the 80s I thought your album was pretty good I heard Jamie Star would play something on the bass and then hand it to you and you would play it that's some bad ass shit
Warner Brothers, is a company that can ruin the relationship with your Mother not over money; but the process of create content.
So Who Wrote TROUBLE? Why is Prince in the Shadows in "Survivin in the 80s" Cover.
He is not in the shadows
@lauraveney1412 Yes He Is!! LOOK CLOSER HE'S WEARING THE WHEN DOVES CRY SUN GLASSES!
He got jealous of prince and just left.
André left because he felt he wasn't given enough credit for "Do Me, Baby", which he co-wrote with Prince. I also remember reading a comment from Quora about how André produced the song himself, although this wasn't confirmed. He felt left out in Prince's band, got into an argument with Prince, then left. Since the exit, he received 2 instances of shade: in "Lady Cab Driver" (Prince was jealous of André's height and attractiveness) and somewhere in The Time's "What Time is It?" album (Morris Day said that he disliked new wave). The good news, however, is that a few years later, Prince reached out to André to let him sing on "The Dance Electric", and André recalled in a recent interview that it was difficult losing his friend.
Andre headstrong, yet your on the list 4 millions
Andrea couldn't be Prince. If Andre is THAT GREAT. then he would be very well known , but he isn't. He is good , but he's not Prince. Andre got jealous.
Front man up
So what is in Andres' vault, I know he is talented, but from what I gather including what is in the vault, Prince wrote over 15k songs, and he played 27 instruments? He had 47 song that made the top 100, and, 19, that made the top 10, off 39 albums, where are Andres'?
Something ain't quite right about Andre..he didn't have success his first time out on columbia !! A major label!! So he goes to the president and screams at him to let him out of his deal??? WTF!! this dude ain't wired right. he should've been grateful for the chance , kept his nose to the grindstone like Prince did. I think he's way too conceded and IMO...he's no where near as good as Prince was . He sure does think he is though 😂
Andre is great but he can’t write the fabulous songs that Prince could.
Prince bossed him out
This dude has 1 minor hit, Prince wrote it called Dance Electric phony af STP was being nice.Why he skipping over his girl group The Girls a rip off Vanity 6 that went nowhere? Didn’t he produced a track on Even Champagnes King? Why he nonchalant’ then I wrote songs for Miss Jody not giving her credit? Selection revision history if he’s all that where his hits? Miss Jody got him paid he downplaying her like he does Prince
Dre is cool as a fan, & says "ya know" alot...lol
Can't stop talking about all the stuff he stole growing up.
This dude is full of it. Hated on Prince when he was alive jumped into tribute shows after Prince died 😒He says he was broke after his failed solo career. Enter Miss Jody he jumps to that shading her contributions when he was broke, Miss Jody brought him in to her deal, the songs she conceptioned and wrote he’s taking credit he only produced them with some other dude Dave Z. She has continued hits without this bitter trying to be holier than though Prince wanna be
// 250Gs you work for them
I would have did what I was told by the record company until I had a great bank account. Without selling my soul.
What does selling your soul mean
Either way once you sign that contract the record company owns you
Andre edited out a lot or he's just outright lying
All that talk of drummers and not one mention of John Morgan, his drummer who he carried over to play with Jody as well....John is better than Andre and Morris put together!
Oh I remember when Paul was in Prince's pet project The Family....Screams of Passion/Nothing Compares to you still kick to this day. It's funny how after Prince dies everyone wants to take credit for songwriting etc...and yet Prince was the only one who continued to produce amazing work for decades and none of these people had any real sustained success without Prince. Of course Andre produced Jody's first solo album, but Jody was a beloved established star in Shalamar. Where is all of his, Wendy, Applebbes or Paul's solo success. All yall have is Prince to talk about to get anyone to care....still getting careers off of Prince's legacy like vultures. lol
Ok I understand why Andre's career went the way that it did. Wasted talent...
He should had stayed... His music went over like a led ballon..
He's not very articulate. Or maybe forthcoming. Perhaps on purpose.