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Check out the Stretched Ruckus game, every celebrity has one. With a Cult following and Honda's reliability I see them going to 90% retail value of brand new ones, even as far back as 2005! Don't forget the Honda PCX 160, it does like up to 85mph! And it DOES do wheelies, I can atest to that, Myself being a 300lb Gorilla. The scooter game is far different form the early 2000's, do some research.
As a long time rider, I find my 250cc Honda Reflex scooter as my workhorse bike. It does everything I need. I have done 300mi rides on it. Ridden daily in Chicago -15 degrees winters. It just goes.
@@wemane6361, pay attention to areas that could collect water or areas where snow is piled up. As it melts you get trails of water that can freeze into ice slicks.
I see shops love scooters because you spend your money there😂 shops should have dedicated scooter drive throughs too. Every car owner should have a scooter for those quick shop trips😂
Lived in Taiwan for 3 years. Had a Yamaha Nmax scooter. Loved it! Crazy thing is, nobody ever thought about driving with gear in Taiwan. It wasn't until I came back home when I decided to think about actually getting gear.
Funny, I finally got a Kymco 300 ABS a few months ago. Great addition to the fleet (scooter, small adv, mid adv, st, dresser). Lots of storage and great for riding around town-way better than a moto for town duty, imo. Great internal storage. Fun to ride and fast enough to worry about tickets. True about safety. My wife low sided and shattered her knee-in the class (I at least got her full moto gear on, so no skin or bone loss-should have gotten her ABS). The break was so unusual and bad that the ortho dr gathered all the interns in the hospital and made them come look because “you’ll never see this again.” Fortunately it didn’t require amputation, which was the main concern. Obviously, she wasn’t a good candidate for two wheels, but I didn’t pick up on that. You definitely can have a very f’d up day/summer on a “little” scooter.
That is true and sometimes when we become a little cocky and complacent a fucked up day can happen in the blink of an eye and it's true most times it happens close to home. I'm living proof cuz it happened to me in my own damn driveway no less although it's a gravel driveway. It was a nice warm summer day out and those brewski's were tasting mighty fine,🍻🐝 I wasn't drunk but I definitely had a good glow going anyway I hopped on the scoot to only take a quick buzz around the block to loan out a tool to a neighbor and as I headed to the end of the driveway (faster than I should have) because my neighbors next door have some bushes that partially block my view of the road and of course perfect timing here comes a car down the road as I come to the end of the driveway just before the street yet still on gravel & I slam the brakes on and down I went, didn't break anything on me or the bike but put some ugly road rash on that once pristine DuPont metallic blue paint, I felt like such a dumbass I parked it and didn't even get it out the following season, live and learn. Well now she's back out again. Scooters are the bomb, just picked up a Suzuki Burgman 650 to add to the fleet of miles and smiles & regarding my stupid spill I say if you can't laugh at yourself who the hell can you laugh at. 😉✌️
I bought a Chinese Honda reflex clone. I had Hella fun on scoot mcgoot. Rode it over taking the harley a few times. It's nice to just sit back and chill. It was super comfy and easy to ride. Me and scoot mcgoot did alot of cruising around town. I'd buy another one in a second. They're fun, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks. As far as I'm concerned they are the clown who is missing out on a good time.
I picked up a 1987 Elite 250 for my wife, $650. Due to health problems she wasn't able to ride it then. After passing my MSF I used it to practice. Now I'm having so much fun I'm looking at some maxi scooters 400-650cc that we can 2-up some serious road miles. Scooters are a blast.
very simple if you want a comfy daily/commuter with lots of storage space and weather protection (yes it can totaly replace a car) get a GT Scooter like Honda Forza or Yamaha Tmax... they are fast enough, they are cheap to drive with minimum maintenance. No Chain to worry about all the time, simple sit on it and drive. You can go every where also in your every day clothes if you want.... you can commute to work on cheap every day, you can go shopping, you can do nearly everything. Downside, its not a Sportsbike to Race or Enduro to go Offroad or a Cruiser to show off.... if you want that specific then go and buy that specific bike.... i ride all kind of Motorcycles since 30years and i absolutely love Motorcycles, but honestly for the every day use i take my Honda Forza Scooter, cheap, easy, reliable, comfy, enough storage space if needed. A Motorcycle is more a Hobby/Freetime thing, A Scooter is like an trusty everyday Car. I replaced my Car with the Scooter and until now i don't regret it in any way
You STILL ain't got one man?.....I have a 98 honda superhawk I ride enough to keep in good running order and a 06 yamaha majesty 400 scooter for everything else man. Scooters aren't the beginning of motorcycling; they are the end........
I've been riding scooters as my primary method of transportation for about four years now. While they aren't very fun on the highway (open road with very fast moving traffic and no protection from wind strong enough to blow me into another lane if I'm not careful), I quite enjoy zipping around on them in the city. They are very agile and their off the line acceleration blows your average car completely out of the water (My Kymco Like 200i will do 0-30 mph in roughly 2 seconds on flat terrain, and 0-20 in one second!). I can't really say how fun they are compared to other motorbikes, as I've only ever ridden scooters, but I will say that if you enjoy cornering, you should definitely give them a chance. You should also consider them if you're looking for a a two wheeled vehicle that capable of carrying more than just you. :P
I bought my first ever scooter this year, a 2022 Yamaha BWS125 (Zuma), and I'm loving zipping around the city on it way more than I ever did any of my motorcycles. And yes, the cornering on a scooter is way more fun than on a motorcycle in around town. Looking forward to Yamaha, or Honda bringing a 155cc flat foot well scooter to Canada with 13" wheels instead of my 12's, and just a little bit more suspension travel...what I believe will be the sweet spot for me. Whoever thought that practical could be so much fun.
Oh I definitely see people popping wheelies on the T-Max over in Europe. They can lift those things! As far as scooters, I'd say the Honda 750 X-ADV looks like a ton of fun. Also the Honda Forza 750 and the good old T-Max from Yamaha of course.
Interesting you post this, just as I am wishing Yamaha brought their Tmax to Canada. I would like an 800cc + version ideally. Comfort, no buffeting, good handling, weather protection are all things I like more and more as I age. I think of it as a mini-goldwing and would love one to go with my other bikes.
I love scooters. I have had half a dozen and I've liked every one I ever had. You can generally tell the engine size by the speed of the scooter. 50cc scooters go 35-45 mph, 150cc scooters go 55-65 mph, and bigger scooters can get on the interstate. Where did the 80-132 miles per gallon statement come from? I've driven scooters for many years and I've never seen a stock scooter get more than ~105 miles per gallon. Bear in mind, the 105 miles per gallon came from a 50cc with 120 lb rider. In my experience, it seems that many people have an exaggerated belief in scooter fuel efficiency. Most scooters I've ridden get 80-90 miles per gallon cruising around and 60-70 miles per gallon on the highway (at 55-65 mph).
Even the low numbers are still insane. A scooter is the most fuel efficient you'll get outside a motorized bike. But thanks for the real world figures.
From 2010 to 2020 I used my buddy 50cc scooter as my main mode of transportation while I was going to community college, since I only lived 10 miles away from the campus. After graduating and getting a job at a hospital somewhat close to me (20 miles away), I knew I had to get something with a little more oomph. So I got the lance Cali classic 125cc scooter. Top speed on paper is 60 mph, but I never take it past 45mph. I don't think scooters are for "pansies". I get a lot of waves from other motorcyclists when I ride around.
I have and love a Piaggio BV400. Easily keeps up with highway traffic and maxes out at around 95 mph on the dash. People are always surprised at how fast it goes.
I recently bought a 300cc Yamaha xmax motor scooter, i've had motorcycles before and while they are great fun they have some shortcomings if you want to use it as your primary mode of transportation. A scooter has lower maintanance (longer intervals, no chain), they are more practical, more fuel efficient and get better wind protection. I also don't care for shifting gears, both in a car as on two wheels so having an automatic transmission is a welcome addition. Especially in slow riding traffic and when filtering in traffic jams having an automatic is a big advantage. The whole 'you're not a real motorcyclist on a motorscooter' thing is just dumb really, who cares what someone rides, as long as its on two wheels!
Great video my man! so very true what you say, guys get caught up in all the matcho bullshit with bikes but like you said, most people do not care what you ride. To me it seems scooters are definately a tool to do a job and bikes are a little more fun.
Scooters aren't safer...true, but the people who tend to ride them don't ride like f'ckn idiot speed demons, nor do they wheelie through alleyways where people and vehicles routinely pop out of blind spots.. So, there's that.
I've ridden dirt bikes, street cruisers, ATVs, and currently own a Honda Silverwing 600cc. I defy anyone who thinks,. what is marketed as a Scooter is anything other than a motorcycle. Here in Ontario, they are classified as a step through motorcycle and with 600cc, 50HP and a top speed of 100 MPH,. and weighing in at 500 pounds it's every inch a highway bike. Will I go back to a manual motorcycle, perhaps, but at 60 years old, I find I like a bit less work to ride a lot more enjoyable.
I had a fly 150 piagio for about 3 years, then I bought a SV 650 Suzuki for about same time . Today I don’t have any bikes but I’m thinking about another one, if you ask me what bike was the best on the fwy ? The 650 yes all the way ! But best fun , best commuting, best comfort, best utility, best memories was definitely my scooter.
I recently sold my YZF600 because of back issues, I bought a Kawasaki J300 as it was easy to get on and off. I never thought I would ride a scooter but I love it, it's more than fast enough for the streets and since you ask about practicability, it has a ton of storage space under the seat, I also have a large top box and two pairs of roll up canvas saddle bags, I can get at least two weeks worth of groceries in one go. Seat padding is very comfortable, I can easily ride a few hundred miles in one go and it will sit at the maximum speed limit (70mph) all day and it does 59mpg, I believe it's a lot more from experience but that's what Kawasaki claim. Even if my back gets better and I can get my leg over a 'proper' motorbike, I wouldn't, I'm keeping this, it has everything I want.
After my wife and I took the MSF Course we went out and bought ourselves Vespa’s. It’s been so much fun and has allowed us to learn at a more gradual pace. She has a 150cc Vespa while I have a Vespa GTS 300cc. For our style of city riding, they are both perfect and I can see ourselves riding these for a long time. I always recommend the scooter life to my family and friends. I have also found that the Vespa community is very supportive and friendly. Most cities have a Vespa group where you can connect with riders. Either way, go out there and enjoy the open road and always be safe.
Kymco and SYM are both Taiwanese companies and make the most reliable scooters in the world. In fact, as an example, both companies also make engines and sometimes entire bikes and small cars/trucks for other companies, such as Honda, Toyota, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Hyundai, etc. I forget which model it is, but one of the big BMW bikes is (or at least was) entirely made by Kymco, which also makes engines and other stuff for them.
I got my motorcycle licenece this year and bought a Yamaha Xmax 300 and already have over 4000 miles on it. It's my new daily driver! It gets 70+ MPG and I've gotten it to 90mph before. Its more than enough, plus the extra storage with a top case means I can bring a friend and get groceries!
I started watching your content for the WR250R. I bought one and loved it. I bought 2 scooters in the last 2 weeks. The helix 250 and the burgman 400 are both really fun.
I got a Dual sport, a cruiser, and a scooter. Each have their place but the scooter is more practical for running errands, shopping etc…. I use in in town only because it’s only 50cc. I can see a day when I may have only a higher capacity scooter and no bikes.
For me i'm getting three things 1 : scooter 2 : hard tail mountain bike or Hybrid bicycle . 3 : KLX300 dual sport I probably won't ride the dual sport much.
Cool. That’s a good mix. Before pulling the trigger on a MTB, try out a good eMTB (Trek, Specialized, Giant, or Cannondale). That’s basically what I replaced my KTM XC and small 250 dual sport with so I could actually enjoy technical trail riding. I bet you would ride the KLX more than you think!
From the 3rd world country Taiwan. People in Taiwan will try to talk you out if you tell them you want to buy a motorcycle instead of a scooter. Not for the gas efficiency but for the fact that you can carry more stuff on a scooter. And they think scooter is much safer than a motorcycle. If the parents hear their child say "dad I want to ride a motorcycle" they will be pissed. "NO! you would only ride scooter! " The biker youtubers in Taiwan will make video such as "why you need to ride a motorcycle instead of a scooter". And most scooters in Taiwan are only 125cc. It is harder to buy motorcycles in Taiwan. Much more expensive and rare. And most people will give up the dream to ride a motorcycle when their dad forbid them to buy one. Scooters are fun but only when one have motorcycles. It will be depressive if the scooter is the only bike one can pick up.
One time I was riding my electric scooter on a pretty fast street and a pickup truck was fucking with me from behind. I pulled over to the side of the road so I wouldn't get ran over.....
Never had a scooter because I always thought they were slow and for people who were poor lol or didn't have a license . ( UK back in the 80s my brother had a 50cc which was slower than my push bike lol ). I'd consider getting an electric one if it had big enough wheels to cope with the pot holes around here and went a decent speed and range. My ebikes are great though and not sure if I need anything else apart from maybe a car for the winter would be nice sometimes but expensive.
i have a duke 390 that i use mostly in the city... i gained a lot of mobility compared to driving a car, but soon i noticed some things that i was missing that would be solved by a proper +300cc maxiscooter, which has lots of storage just under the seat (2 helmets + jacket/backpack+ waterproof vest+gloves+chain/locker) so i am seriously thinking about getting a yamaha xmax 300 and sell the duke, and whenever i miss again a proper motorcycle i go for a 700-900cc travel motorcycle or another solution would be going straight to get a tracer7 with storage and see how it behaves on the highway, and use that as a multipurpose bike for daily and travel/fun whenever i drive my duke 390 at highway speeds (120kmh) its really messy, i have to reduce some speed to be comfortable with the wind (down to 100-110kmh) and all the cars pass me, which is also super uncomfortable/dangerous (as if riding a bike wasnt) its a fun bike for twisties, amazing value... but honestly its too light and "naked" I think that buying a naked is the number one begginers mistake... we just see how powerful, technological, and how amazingly cool they look, and forget about practicality... because at the end of the day they are only good city bikes but with the big inconvenience of carrying your stuff with you all the time they can do everything, but they arent good at anything really
I use a BMW C650GT as my daily driver and it easily handles the freeways. Tops out at about 120, heated seat, heated grips and enough storage for two bags of groceries. Plus, I can fill it up and ride all week for less than $20. Down side is that it is not cheap and maintenance costs are outrageous
I feel you. I had a Svartpilen 401 2019 (basically the same bike as the Duke with different fairings) and made the switch to an Xmax 300. It is a great scooter and you can really push it on some nice corners, very sporty. It is almost perfect, otherwise I wouldn´t have put 50k km (30k miles) on it in 2 years. There are quite a few situations though where you wish for more power where you wouldn´t on the 401. On the 401 I could basically overtake anything on country roads without worries. With the Xmax you need to plan a lot, plus overtaking a car that is also accelerating is almost impossible. This is a big problem, especially here in Germany where people have fragile egos and don´t want to let a scooter go past them, so they accelerate mid overtake. Other than that, it´s been incredibly reliable and cheap. I drive like a hooligan sometimes, basically full throttle any chance I get and still have an average consumption of 3.2L/100km (about 73mpg). I´m considering the switch back to a bike for more power, emotions and even shifting but there are no bikes that wouldn´t be just another compromise in this price range.
I like the somewhat "Smaller" scooters like the 125-180cc GY6 ones. Quality is surprisingly good. I wish Kawasaki would make a smaller scooter like that in Green.
scooters are more dangerous in some ways yes but they are also safer in some ways. For example, a scooter is a lot harder to speed so if u get in a head on crash u will be less hurt than if u did it on a ducati v4r
Great subject, I bought a new 2022 Honda NAVI, first time out in the US.1807 msrp...It's a 110 cc and automatic transmission and gets approx 110 miles per gallon ..It is a great around the town or camp bike..I ride it whenever I can and it has saved me a ton in gas money..I still ride my Mighty Suzuki DRZ400s dual sport but this Honda is a great addition to my stable...
@@therealrealshocker Yeah, I've had it over a year now and it's a neat little bike...I ride it to work when the weather's good and most of my other railroaders love it.. 4 of my co workers have bought one...
Kymco is pronounced KIM-CO, yes Taiwanese's, not Chinese. Had a Kymco xciting 500 maxi scooter and toured the country on it for years. Put 80,000 miles on it. Longest day was 1,004 miles. Only break down was the stator between 40-50,000 miles.
Hey CC, hope you are well! My two brothers-in-law have scooters, 175cc, and they have a blast on them. I kinda sorta looked down on them, bcs. I have my 750cc Kawasaki streetfighter, but I want to try them, like really. It is completely different. And that's great! Stay safe
Please normalize scooters and small cc bikes in America. I don't care what kind of bike anyone rides like some ego riders. Visiting other countries I enjoy how easy it is to rent a moped or scooter and just get going and it's normal and respected.
@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587 smaller cc on the roads are not. Having come from places like Mexico and the Philippines they aren't. Here you're always pushed to go higher in CC. Less people would be intimidated I think if they were more Open to starting small. and plenty of people don't respect riders at all. Try This perspective; only a few states recognize lane splitting/filtering as a right. Most think we do it with the notion that we "own the road". In other places it's just a normal thing.
I started in a Honda ADV 150!! It was a super cool scooter! Just not the best for rural roads 45 mph or higher! It maxed at about 72 mph but it took a lot of time to get there!! Dope video!
The adv 150 is my 6th grade( 7 yrs ago) classmates first motorcycle. While my 12th grade classmates are planning to buy honda click/vario 125 after the get their license.
I have both, vfr800 and 150cc scooter/motorcycle. They both fit nicely in my assigned parking spot, both are older and relatively cheap to insure and run. The scooter keeps miles off my Honda and is nicer when it gets hot
A lot of those big scooters have a lot of space for stuff. Some of them you can even carry golf clubs under the seat. The really big ones take some practice at stops though, because there is a balance you have to maintain between the gas and the brakes.
CycleCruza has no scootah?? I've been riding all kinds of motorcycles for about 20 years. Right now I'm riding a Honda Forza 350. I bought it because I can use it everyday. It is way more practical than a regular motorcycle. I just notice I use it a lot more than my previous motorcycles. It just helps me with my life/work balance. I enjoy my daily commutes on a scootah!!
Thanks for that video bro. I have a 150 GY6, im 44, its what I can swing right now, not trying to go into debt on a 10k bike, I have fun on my chinese bike. I dont gaf what anybody thinks. Im old anyway, have a woman, she dosent want me riding 100 mph, Its a fun little toy, i can wrench on it sometimes, they break down alot, so i learn alot lol
This was an interesting video. As a European, scooters have always been popular here for multiple reasons. It’s funny to see them gaining popularity in the states, especially as Americans used to make fun of us for riding them. I remember seeing a lot of comments like “get a real bike” etc. now the gas prices seem to rising there, scooters have suddenly become a practical option lol. Funny how things change
I ride an africa twin and recently bought a 150cc Chinese scooter and its so much fun to bomb around town on that. My work commute is so much more enjoyable, I love the honda for long rides but nothing wrong with a scooter. I never noticed how insecure so many riders are until I pull up next to some Harley riders at a stop light I just laugh to myself that I'm just confident and riding my own ride. If my scooter did highway speeds I'd totally convert, thanks for the vid I think there's a lot of people that start out on scooters and its important for them to know you just ride what you want and how you want don't let some insecure fool try to bully you.
Bought my beloved Genuine Buddy 125 / PGO PA-125 (Taiwanese brand) ( named her Joyce ( partial plate number J07E ) a month ago ( 2023) and I really satisfied with her. Glad I did not go for a "toy" 50cc scoot! Pulls surprisingly hard :) (first engine mod , a taller gear ) Can run a solid 55 to 69 mph without my needing to lean forward . Will she ever set tire on freeway/interstate .. nope. Will she rule on "surface roads" yep!
Maxiscooters is to large takes up to mutch space and are slow turning, to long wheelbase, i want driveabillity of a 50-125 scooter with power the of 350-500 maxiscooters
as long as you talked about scooter and you are thinking of buying an old T-max then you should consider buying a Honda silver wing 600cc it has 55 liter storage under seat and very powerful scooter as well it has 120 miles speedometer
Man the fact is the average bike is going to get 250 miles max per 4.5 gallon tank. Thats roughly 10 miles per dollar give or take. Worlds better than anyone driving a cage these days. The fact that you can still get away with 10 smiles per dollar is a steal. I don't think you'll get the same ratio on a scooter. But you will get more miles so it might break even. Now would I invest in a supermoto right now heck yes, cause as cycle cruza has taught us. That is where its at? The 450 won't need a rebuild for another 10 years cruza! Yeah baby.
Here in mainland Europe the new model is 15.000€. You can get a fully kitted out Tracer 9 for that kinda money, it´s ridiculous. And it also drinks fuel like a big bike but with only 48hp...
Well hot damn this goes to my recommended vids while a friend of mine offers to sell a scooter same as rossi’s but bigger displacement for dirt cheap.. to be fair I’ve been eying one for months as I’m getting older and I need less stress on my back.. I’ve had supermotos, bobbers and sport naked bikes that have good handlebar placement for my back but I need something that I don’t get tempted into speeding every time I get bored..
I have two scooters 48cc but you can't Yamaha 49 cc scooters anymore stopped making them and tmax you have to have a motorcycle endorsement in Indiana they don't have scooter license in Indiana
Jack Cecil made a lil Yamaha real fast all Malossi parts he did everything on it and it beat a Ferrari off the line for further then you would have thought check out those videos they’re a few yrs back but good videos on him building and dynoing the scooter it’s either Jack Cecil or HPLogic you’ll find it
Loved my 150cc Chinese made scooter. Would top out at 65 but going down hill and “tucking” could get to 72. At the time I would fill the take for 2-3 dollars and get from San Diego to Huntington Beach back down to San Clemente on a tank. Didn’t pay attention to what the actual mpg was but well over 80 mpg. Am currently thinking of getting a 250cc to ride to work when I don’t have the family with me.
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yamaha tmax or xmax will do wheelies just shutdown the traction control
Check out the Stretched Ruckus game, every celebrity has one. With a Cult following and Honda's reliability I see them going to 90% retail value of brand new ones, even as far back as 2005!
Don't forget the Honda PCX 160, it does like up to 85mph! And it DOES do wheelies, I can atest to that, Myself being a 300lb Gorilla. The scooter game is far different form the early 2000's, do some research.
Went to go check out your helmet and it says SITE IS NOT SECURE.💸
As a long time rider, I find my 250cc Honda Reflex scooter as my workhorse bike. It does everything I need. I have done 300mi rides on it. Ridden daily in Chicago -15 degrees winters. It just goes.
That was my first scooter
Do you have any advice for riding in a big city besides gear?
@@wemane6361, pay attention to areas that could collect water or areas where snow is piled up. As it melts you get trails of water that can freeze into ice slicks.
Niceee
You must be using heated gloves.
What I like with scooters are that no shifting is required, and they have a fair amount of storage space. Pretty practical for a run to the shops.
Scooters excel at that
I see shops love scooters because you spend your money there😂 shops should have dedicated scooter drive throughs too. Every car owner should have a scooter for those quick shop trips😂
I commute and shop on mine.
Italy runs on 150cc-300cc scooters. The national average is two scooters per household.
Have you seen Italy lacks actual roads for cars? It's unlike America
Lived in Taiwan for 3 years. Had a Yamaha Nmax scooter. Loved it! Crazy thing is, nobody ever thought about driving with gear in Taiwan. It wasn't until I came back home when I decided to think about actually getting gear.
Funny, I finally got a Kymco 300 ABS a few months ago. Great addition to the fleet (scooter, small adv, mid adv, st, dresser). Lots of storage and great for riding around town-way better than a moto for town duty, imo. Great internal storage. Fun to ride and fast enough to worry about tickets. True about safety. My wife low sided and shattered her knee-in the class (I at least got her full moto gear on, so no skin or bone loss-should have gotten her ABS). The break was so unusual and bad that the ortho dr gathered all the interns in the hospital and made them come look because “you’ll never see this again.” Fortunately it didn’t require amputation, which was the main concern. Obviously, she wasn’t a good candidate for two wheels, but I didn’t pick up on that. You definitely can have a very f’d up day/summer on a “little” scooter.
That is true and sometimes when we become a little cocky and complacent a fucked up day can happen in the blink of an eye and it's true most times it happens close to home. I'm living proof cuz it happened to me in my own damn driveway no less although it's a gravel driveway. It was a nice warm summer day out and those brewski's were tasting mighty fine,🍻🐝 I wasn't drunk but I definitely had a good glow going anyway I hopped on the scoot to only take a quick buzz around the block to loan out a tool to a neighbor and as I headed to the end of the driveway (faster than I should have) because my neighbors next door have some bushes that partially block my view of the road and of course perfect timing here comes a car down the road as I come to the end of the driveway just before the street yet still on gravel & I slam the brakes on and down I went, didn't break anything on me or the bike but put some ugly road rash on that once pristine DuPont metallic blue paint, I felt like such a dumbass I parked it and didn't even get it out the following season, live and learn. Well now she's back out again. Scooters are the bomb, just picked up a Suzuki Burgman 650 to add to the fleet of miles and smiles & regarding my stupid spill I say if you can't laugh at yourself who the hell can you laugh at. 😉✌️
Just got my first scooter. Heck at 90mpg u can laugh at me all u want. I will be the one laughing at the gas station! 😊
I bought a Chinese Honda reflex clone. I had Hella fun on scoot mcgoot. Rode it over taking the harley a few times. It's nice to just sit back and chill. It was super comfy and easy to ride. Me and scoot mcgoot did alot of cruising around town. I'd buy another one in a second. They're fun, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks. As far as I'm concerned they are the clown who is missing out on a good time.
We need to bring back CycleScootah 🤣
And Bugout Scootah haha
I picked up a 1987 Elite 250 for my wife, $650. Due to health problems she wasn't able to ride it then. After passing my MSF I used it to practice. Now I'm having so much fun I'm looking at some maxi scooters 400-650cc that we can 2-up some serious road miles. Scooters are a blast.
very simple if you want a comfy daily/commuter with lots of storage space and weather protection (yes it can totaly replace a car) get a GT Scooter like Honda Forza or Yamaha Tmax... they are fast enough, they are cheap to drive with minimum maintenance. No Chain to worry about all the time, simple sit on it and drive. You can go every where also in your every day clothes if you want.... you can commute to work on cheap every day, you can go shopping, you can do nearly everything. Downside, its not a Sportsbike to Race or Enduro to go Offroad or a Cruiser to show off.... if you want that specific then go and buy that specific bike.... i ride all kind of Motorcycles since 30years and i absolutely love Motorcycles, but honestly for the every day use i take my Honda Forza Scooter, cheap, easy, reliable, comfy, enough storage space if needed. A Motorcycle is more a Hobby/Freetime thing, A Scooter is like an trusty everyday Car. I replaced my Car with the Scooter and until now i don't regret it in any way
You STILL ain't got one man?.....I have a 98 honda superhawk I ride enough to keep in good running order and a 06 yamaha majesty 400 scooter for everything else man. Scooters aren't the beginning of motorcycling; they are the end........
Used to have a Honda Silverwing 600cc scooter. Rode it from Chicago to Phoenix and back years back. It was a very comfortable and enjoyable ride.
I've been riding scooters as my primary method of transportation for about four years now. While they aren't very fun on the highway (open road with very fast moving traffic and no protection from wind strong enough to blow me into another lane if I'm not careful), I quite enjoy zipping around on them in the city. They are very agile and their off the line acceleration blows your average car completely out of the water (My Kymco Like 200i will do 0-30 mph in roughly 2 seconds on flat terrain, and 0-20 in one second!).
I can't really say how fun they are compared to other motorbikes, as I've only ever ridden scooters, but I will say that if you enjoy cornering, you should definitely give them a chance. You should also consider them if you're looking for a a two wheeled vehicle that capable of carrying more than just you. :P
I bought my first ever scooter this year, a 2022 Yamaha BWS125 (Zuma), and I'm loving zipping around the city on it way more than I ever did any of my motorcycles. And yes, the cornering on a scooter is way more fun than on a motorcycle in around town. Looking forward to Yamaha, or Honda bringing a 155cc flat foot well scooter to Canada with 13" wheels instead of my 12's, and just a little bit more suspension travel...what I believe will be the sweet spot for me. Whoever thought that practical could be so much fun.
Yea, my Maxi-Scooter & 250cc dual sport are my 2 fav bikes I’ve ever owned. Hope you’re doing great CC! Stay safe out there.
Check out that kymco AK550
Under 10k
Comes with heated grips
Goes I think 125mph
The xmax300 is a great choice too!!
AK550 tops out at 104 mph
@@yukonjack. thanks!!
Oh I definitely see people popping wheelies on the T-Max over in Europe. They can lift those things! As far as scooters, I'd say the Honda 750 X-ADV looks like a ton of fun. Also the Honda Forza 750 and the good old T-Max from Yamaha of course.
Interesting you post this, just as I am wishing Yamaha brought their Tmax to Canada. I would like an 800cc + version ideally.
Comfort, no buffeting, good handling, weather protection are all things I like more and more as I age. I think of it as a mini-goldwing and would love one to go with my other bikes.
I think scooters are like fat girls, they are fun to ride until your friends catch you. 😄
I love scooters. I have had half a dozen and I've liked every one I ever had.
You can generally tell the engine size by the speed of the scooter. 50cc scooters go 35-45 mph, 150cc scooters go 55-65 mph, and bigger scooters can get on the interstate.
Where did the 80-132 miles per gallon statement come from? I've driven scooters for many years and I've never seen a stock scooter get more than ~105 miles per gallon. Bear in mind, the 105 miles per gallon came from a 50cc with 120 lb rider.
In my experience, it seems that many people have an exaggerated belief in scooter fuel efficiency. Most scooters I've ridden get 80-90 miles per gallon cruising around and 60-70 miles per gallon on the highway (at 55-65 mph).
Even the low numbers are still insane. A scooter is the most fuel efficient you'll get outside a motorized bike. But thanks for the real world figures.
You can get a Suzuki Burgman 650 and that alone will be good enough for highway cruising
i think you could rip mad with that thing. There is someone with one near my house.
Yeah that is cool but I would get the TMax, Yamaha all day for me.
Burgman, the Suzuki halfabusa
From 2010 to 2020 I used my buddy 50cc scooter as my main mode of transportation while I was going to community college, since I only lived 10 miles away from the campus. After graduating and getting a job at a hospital somewhat close to me (20 miles away), I knew I had to get something with a little more oomph. So I got the lance Cali classic 125cc scooter. Top speed on paper is 60 mph, but I never take it past 45mph. I don't think scooters are for "pansies". I get a lot of waves from other motorcyclists when I ride around.
Scooter is like a Mercedes Benz.
Other bikes are ordinary.
Only GoldWing beats scooter in long distamces,otherwise they are so good.
I have and love a Piaggio BV400. Easily keeps up with highway traffic and maxes out at around 95 mph on the dash. People are always surprised at how fast it goes.
I recently bought a 300cc Yamaha xmax motor scooter, i've had motorcycles before and while they are great fun they have some shortcomings if you want to use it as your primary mode of transportation. A scooter has lower maintanance (longer intervals, no chain), they are more practical, more fuel efficient and get better wind protection. I also don't care for shifting gears, both in a car as on two wheels so having an automatic transmission is a welcome addition. Especially in slow riding traffic and when filtering in traffic jams having an automatic is a big advantage. The whole 'you're not a real motorcyclist on a motorscooter' thing is just dumb really, who cares what someone rides, as long as its on two wheels!
Great video my man! so very true what you say, guys get caught up in all the matcho bullshit with bikes but like you said, most people do not care what you ride. To me it seems scooters are definately a tool to do a job and bikes are a little more fun.
Scooters aren't safer...true, but the people who tend to ride them don't ride like f'ckn idiot speed demons, nor do they wheelie through alleyways where people and vehicles routinely pop out of blind spots.. So, there's that.
Well said!!!👍🏻 Ironically I'm very familiar with 1966 😉
I've ridden dirt bikes, street cruisers, ATVs, and currently own a Honda Silverwing 600cc. I defy anyone who thinks,. what is marketed as a Scooter is anything other than a motorcycle. Here in Ontario, they are classified as a step through motorcycle and with 600cc, 50HP and a top speed of 100 MPH,. and weighing in at 500 pounds it's every inch a highway bike. Will I go back to a manual motorcycle, perhaps, but at 60 years old, I find I like a bit less work to ride a lot more enjoyable.
I had a fly 150 piagio for about 3 years, then I bought a SV 650 Suzuki for about same time . Today I don’t have any bikes but I’m thinking about another one, if you ask me what bike was the best on the fwy ? The 650 yes all the way ! But best fun , best commuting, best comfort, best utility, best memories was definitely my scooter.
I recently sold my YZF600 because of back issues, I bought a Kawasaki J300 as it was easy to get on and off. I never thought I would ride a scooter but I love it, it's more than fast enough for the streets and since you ask about practicability, it has a ton of storage space under the seat, I also have a large top box and two pairs of roll up canvas saddle bags, I can get at least two weeks worth of groceries in one go. Seat padding is very comfortable, I can easily ride a few hundred miles in one go and it will sit at the maximum speed limit (70mph) all day and it does 59mpg, I believe it's a lot more from experience but that's what Kawasaki claim. Even if my back gets better and I can get my leg over a 'proper' motorbike, I wouldn't, I'm keeping this, it has everything I want.
After my wife and I took the MSF Course we went out and bought ourselves Vespa’s. It’s been so much fun and has allowed us to learn at a more gradual pace. She has a 150cc Vespa while I have a Vespa GTS 300cc. For our style of city riding, they are both perfect and I can see ourselves riding these for a long time.
I always recommend the scooter life to my family and friends. I have also found that the Vespa community is very supportive and friendly. Most cities have a Vespa group where you can connect with riders.
Either way, go out there and enjoy the open road and always be safe.
Kymco and SYM are both Taiwanese companies and make the most reliable scooters in the world. In fact, as an example, both companies also make engines and sometimes entire bikes and small cars/trucks for other companies, such as Honda, Toyota, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Hyundai, etc. I forget which model it is, but one of the big BMW bikes is (or at least was) entirely made by Kymco, which also makes engines and other stuff for them.
I got my motorcycle licenece this year and bought a Yamaha Xmax 300 and already have over 4000 miles on it. It's my new daily driver! It gets 70+ MPG and I've gotten it to 90mph before. Its more than enough, plus the extra storage with a top case means I can bring a friend and get groceries!
I started watching your content for the WR250R. I bought one and loved it. I bought 2 scooters in the last 2 weeks. The helix 250 and the burgman 400 are both really fun.
Scooter's are more practical especially in NYC, 12 hate motorcycles here
I really like the honda ruckus 😅
I got a Dual sport, a cruiser, and a scooter. Each have their place but the scooter is more practical for running errands, shopping etc…. I use in in town only because it’s only 50cc. I can see a day when I may have only a higher capacity scooter and no bikes.
Great going from a 2nd world country to a 3rd in the span of 3 years
🤔
-scooter
-don't have power to undertake a car
Which one you are talking? 50cc sure can't without modifications but any 125cc will smoke a car
For me i'm getting three things
1 : scooter
2 : hard tail mountain bike or Hybrid bicycle .
3 : KLX300 dual sport
I probably won't ride the dual sport much.
Cool. That’s a good mix. Before pulling the trigger on a MTB, try out a good eMTB (Trek, Specialized, Giant, or Cannondale). That’s basically what I replaced my KTM XC and small 250 dual sport with so I could actually enjoy technical trail riding. I bet you would ride the KLX more than you think!
Kymco pronounced Kim-Coe
CC, KYMCO is pronounced KIM-Co
I have a Honda Valkyrie 1800 and I still want to get the Honda Super Cub 125. Looks like a ton of fun and easier for dense city traffic.
I love my Keeway for cruising in the countryside but got an cyclone RT1 for daily driving in town.
I’m giving peak Honda and Fey Myers’s Honda excellent service ratings!😅
From the 3rd world country Taiwan.
People in Taiwan will try to talk you out if you tell them you want to buy a motorcycle instead of a scooter.
Not for the gas efficiency but for the fact that you can carry more stuff on a scooter. And they think scooter is much safer than a motorcycle.
If the parents hear their child say
"dad I want to ride a motorcycle" they will be pissed.
"NO! you would only ride scooter! "
The biker youtubers in Taiwan will make video such as
"why you need to ride a motorcycle instead of a scooter".
And most scooters in Taiwan are only 125cc.
It is harder to buy motorcycles in Taiwan. Much more expensive and rare.
And most people will give up the dream to ride a motorcycle when their dad forbid them to buy one.
Scooters are fun but only when one have motorcycles.
It will be depressive if the scooter is the only bike one can pick up.
One time I was riding my electric scooter on a pretty fast street and a pickup truck was fucking with me from behind. I pulled over to the side of the road so I wouldn't get ran over.....
Never had a scooter because I always thought they were slow and for people who were poor lol or didn't have a license . ( UK back in the 80s my brother had a 50cc which was slower than my push bike lol ).
I'd consider getting an electric one if it had big enough wheels to cope with the pot holes around here and went a decent speed and range.
My ebikes are great though and not sure if I need anything else apart from maybe a car for the winter would be nice sometimes but expensive.
i have a duke 390 that i use mostly in the city... i gained a lot of mobility compared to driving a car, but soon i noticed some things that i was missing that would be solved by a proper +300cc maxiscooter, which has lots of storage just under the seat (2 helmets + jacket/backpack+ waterproof vest+gloves+chain/locker)
so i am seriously thinking about getting a yamaha xmax 300 and sell the duke, and whenever i miss again a proper motorcycle i go for a 700-900cc travel motorcycle
or another solution would be going straight to get a tracer7 with storage and see how it behaves on the highway, and use that as a multipurpose bike for daily and travel/fun
whenever i drive my duke 390 at highway speeds (120kmh) its really messy, i have to reduce some speed to be comfortable with the wind (down to 100-110kmh) and all the cars pass me, which is also super uncomfortable/dangerous (as if riding a bike wasnt)
its a fun bike for twisties, amazing value... but honestly its too light and "naked"
I think that buying a naked is the number one begginers mistake... we just see how powerful, technological, and how amazingly cool they look, and forget about practicality... because at the end of the day they are only good city bikes but with the big inconvenience of carrying your stuff with you all the time
they can do everything, but they arent good at anything really
I use a BMW C650GT as my daily driver and it easily handles the freeways. Tops out at about 120, heated seat, heated grips and enough storage for two bags of groceries. Plus, I can fill it up and ride all week for less than $20. Down side is that it is not cheap and maintenance costs are outrageous
I feel you. I had a Svartpilen 401 2019 (basically the same bike as the Duke with different fairings) and made the switch to an Xmax 300. It is a great scooter and you can really push it on some nice corners, very sporty. It is almost perfect, otherwise I wouldn´t have put 50k km (30k miles) on it in 2 years. There are quite a few situations though where you wish for more power where you wouldn´t on the 401.
On the 401 I could basically overtake anything on country roads without worries. With the Xmax you need to plan a lot, plus overtaking a car that is also accelerating is almost impossible. This is a big problem, especially here in Germany where people have fragile egos and don´t want to let a scooter go past them, so they accelerate mid overtake.
Other than that, it´s been incredibly reliable and cheap. I drive like a hooligan sometimes, basically full throttle any chance I get and still have an average consumption of 3.2L/100km (about 73mpg).
I´m considering the switch back to a bike for more power, emotions and even shifting but there are no bikes that wouldn´t be just another compromise in this price range.
Please get a tmax. People really are missing out in life thinking scooters are for dorks. But scooters are truly a different experience.
I like the somewhat "Smaller" scooters like the 125-180cc GY6 ones. Quality is surprisingly good. I wish Kawasaki would make a smaller scooter like that in Green.
scooters are more dangerous in some ways yes but they are also safer in some ways. For example, a scooter is a lot harder to speed so if u get in a head on crash u will be less hurt than if u did it on a ducati v4r
Bikes are dying scoots are ruling the roads more comfy
Great subject, I bought a new 2022 Honda NAVI, first time out in the US.1807 msrp...It's a 110 cc and automatic transmission and gets approx 110 miles per gallon ..It is a great around the town or camp bike..I ride it whenever I can and it has saved me a ton in gas money..I still ride my Mighty Suzuki DRZ400s dual sport but this Honda is a great addition to my stable...
reading this makes me want the NAVI even more now haha! Thanks for sharing!
@@therealrealshocker Yeah, I've had it over a year now and it's a neat little bike...I ride it to work when the weather's good and most of my other railroaders love it..
4 of my co workers have bought one...
fuck yeah i Lovvvve scootas! so much fun just to cruise around and relax! I might buy a Honda Navi
I purchased my DRZ400SM a few years ago and I can not bring myself to sell it.
Man stop riding that bike on the city streets all of the time. GET OUTTA TOWN
Kymco is pronounced KIM-CO, yes Taiwanese's, not Chinese. Had a Kymco xciting 500 maxi scooter and toured the country on it for years. Put 80,000 miles on it. Longest day was 1,004 miles. Only break down was the stator between 40-50,000 miles.
Nice! I nearly bought a Kymco 300. Cool scoots.
A lot of motorized scooters have a bad back position for the rider.
Motorcycles is better than scooter because of easier and lower maintenance costs
At 62 I ride Motorized bikes.
Did I see you run a stop sign? 1:55 seconds into the video? Yikes!
The movie Larry Crowne with Tom Hanks features all kinds of scooters.
We’re in a world here now where cars are no longer feasible.
Hey CC, hope you are well! My two brothers-in-law have scooters, 175cc, and they have a blast on them. I kinda sorta looked down on them, bcs. I have my 750cc Kawasaki streetfighter, but I want to try them, like really. It is completely different. And that's great! Stay safe
Get a vespa and you ll be stylish even on a scooter
Psycho cruiser I think you just like to be on 2 wheels
Please normalize scooters and small cc bikes in America. I don't care what kind of bike anyone rides like some ego riders.
Visiting other countries I enjoy how easy it is to rent a moped or scooter and just get going and it's normal and respected.
@@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587 smaller cc on the roads are not. Having come from places like Mexico and the Philippines they aren't. Here you're always pushed to go higher in CC. Less people would be intimidated I think if they were more Open to starting small. and plenty of people don't respect riders at all.
Try This perspective; only a few states recognize lane splitting/filtering as a right. Most think we do it with the notion that we "own the road". In other places it's just a normal thing.
Yamaha TRICITY 300. Enough said
I will say this use riding gear I was riding and pushed of the rode with no gear Iam lucky to be alive
Mind you it was a 50cc scooter use your gear
Honda ADV 150 is pretty cool
I started in a Honda ADV 150!! It was a super cool scooter! Just not the best for rural roads 45 mph or higher! It maxed at about 72 mph but it took a lot of time to get there!! Dope video!
The adv 150 is my 6th grade( 7 yrs ago) classmates first motorcycle.
While my 12th grade classmates are planning to buy honda click/vario 125 after the get their license.
Scooter is cooler then a dirt bike on the street KEEP DIRT BIKES ON DIRT
I have both, vfr800 and 150cc scooter/motorcycle. They both fit nicely in my assigned parking spot, both are older and relatively cheap to insure and run. The scooter keeps miles off my Honda and is nicer when it gets hot
Insurance on scooters is dirt cheap and they last forever on a tank of fuel.
Had a 2004 VFR... beautiful machine..
I'm cool enough to ride a scooter.
A lot of those big scooters have a lot of space for stuff. Some of them you can even carry golf clubs under the seat. The really big ones take some practice at stops though, because there is a balance you have to maintain between the gas and the brakes.
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I ride 60v electric scooters..
Honda x-adv would be nice.
It's Kim-Co not Kyme-Co
I know a few riders that can wheelie their scooters. Come out to the DTLA Friday night ride. You will see many scooters bringing it up 😁👍
I love my BMW C650 GT
Love my Elite 250
CycleCruza has no scootah?? I've been riding all kinds of motorcycles for about 20 years. Right now I'm riding a Honda Forza 350. I bought it because I can use it everyday. It is way more practical than a regular motorcycle. I just notice I use it a lot more than my previous motorcycles. It just helps me with my life/work balance. I enjoy my daily commutes on a scootah!!
Thanks for that video bro. I have a 150 GY6, im 44, its what I can swing right now, not trying to go into debt on a 10k bike, I have fun on my chinese bike. I dont gaf what anybody thinks. Im old anyway, have a woman, she dosent want me riding 100 mph, Its a fun little toy, i can wrench on it sometimes, they break down alot, so i learn alot lol
This was an interesting video. As a European, scooters have always been popular here for multiple reasons. It’s funny to see them gaining popularity in the states, especially as Americans used to make fun of us for riding them. I remember seeing a lot of comments like “get a real bike” etc. now the gas prices seem to rising there, scooters have suddenly become a practical option lol. Funny how things change
When talking about fuel economy do you mean US Gallons or Imperial Gallons?
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I ride an africa twin and recently bought a 150cc Chinese scooter and its so much fun to bomb around town on that.
My work commute is so much more enjoyable, I love the honda for long rides but nothing wrong with a scooter.
I never noticed how insecure so many riders are until I pull up next to some Harley riders at a stop light I just laugh to myself that I'm just confident and riding my own ride.
If my scooter did highway speeds I'd totally convert, thanks for the vid I think there's a lot of people that start out on scooters and its important for them to know you just ride what you want and how you want don't let some insecure fool try to bully you.
Bought my beloved Genuine Buddy 125 / PGO PA-125 (Taiwanese brand) ( named her Joyce ( partial plate number J07E ) a month ago ( 2023) and I really satisfied with her. Glad I did not go for a "toy" 50cc scoot! Pulls surprisingly hard :) (first engine mod , a taller gear ) Can run a solid 55 to 69 mph without my needing to lean forward . Will she ever set tire on freeway/interstate .. nope. Will she rule on "surface roads" yep!
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Maxiscooters is to large takes up to mutch space and are slow turning, to long wheelbase, i want driveabillity of a 50-125 scooter with power the of 350-500 maxiscooters
as long as you talked about scooter and you are thinking of buying an old T-max then you should consider buying a Honda silver wing 600cc it has 55 liter storage under seat and very powerful scooter as well it has 120 miles speedometer
Man the fact is the average bike is going to get 250 miles max per 4.5 gallon tank. Thats roughly 10 miles per dollar give or take. Worlds better than anyone driving a cage these days. The fact that you can still get away with 10 smiles per dollar is a steal. I don't think you'll get the same ratio on a scooter. But you will get more miles so it might break even.
Now would I invest in a supermoto right now heck yes, cause as cycle cruza has taught us. That is where its at? The 450 won't need a rebuild for another 10 years cruza! Yeah baby.
U have to be a rich man to buy a tmax on my island.
Here in mainland Europe the new model is 15.000€. You can get a fully kitted out Tracer 9 for that kinda money, it´s ridiculous. And it also drinks fuel like a big bike but with only 48hp...
Well hot damn this goes to my recommended vids while a friend of mine offers to sell a scooter same as rossi’s but bigger displacement for dirt cheap.. to be fair I’ve been eying one for months as I’m getting older and I need less stress on my back.. I’ve had supermotos, bobbers and sport naked bikes that have good handlebar placement for my back but I need something that I don’t get tempted into speeding every time I get bored..
You mean we could be calling you ScootaCruza if it weren't for the price being too high? WHEW, thank God the Honda was cheaper!
I just got a 2023 BMW C400GT and am loving the scooter life right now! I can do just about everything on this and it's a blast to ride around on.
I have two scooters 48cc but you can't Yamaha 49 cc scooters anymore stopped making them and tmax you have to have a motorcycle endorsement in Indiana they don't have scooter license in Indiana
Sorry Cruza I just can’t do the scooter. But in Italy that was my main transportation, I will never look back to those days. Call it Ego
Jack Cecil made a lil Yamaha real fast all Malossi parts he did everything on it and it beat a Ferrari off the line for further then you would have thought check out those videos they’re a few yrs back but good videos on him building and dynoing the scooter it’s either Jack Cecil or HPLogic you’ll find it
Loved my 150cc Chinese made scooter. Would top out at 65 but going down hill and “tucking” could get to 72. At the time I would fill the take for 2-3 dollars and get from San Diego to Huntington Beach back down to San Clemente on a tank. Didn’t pay attention to what the actual mpg was but well over 80 mpg. Am currently thinking of getting a 250cc to ride to work when I don’t have the family with me.