@@ReepsWasteOfTime thats guys channel has to be one of the most popular garbage dumps i have ever seen on youtube. most of the stuff he is showing is garbage but people keep watching him
@@togiisuperheavytank I kinda wanted the NH-C14s because it blew onto the cpu and surrounding components. It looked like a decently beefy solution and now I'm seeing this lol
just looks like a wider version of a low profile cooler that's been around for years, interesting but annoying if you have to change your RAM and you'll have to worry about your RAM height
Im actually thinking of using one. aftermarket car radiator was so cheap compared to pc rad and i dont have to upgrade everything when i use bigger cpu. I even thinking of using heat exchanger inside the case and putting a semi truck radiator in a different room since the cpu heat was heating up my room. Even if using single 360mm radiator was enough, this line of thinking kept coming back.
I know it's a joke but here is why I've always preferred air cooling. It's not about how much heat you can dissipate... so long as it's got enough fins and pipes. It's about how much heat you can transfer FROM the CPU TO the baseplate of the cooler. That is the number 1 most important part of a cooler. That's why we use paste. It's why good coolers, like you can see in this picture, rise to a point in the middle... so when you screw it down, it flattens and tries to make great contact with the IHS of the CPU. If you don't have good contact, a 4 core big block radiator isn't going to have any heat from the CPU to dissipate. It's why I like the Fuma 2 Rev B. For the size, it's high quality. It's high quality enough that it does grab all the heat, it just can't dissipate enough with the fins/pipes and especially those stupid fans they come with. However, it keeps my 5900x @ 58C in the vast majority of games. 65C @ 142 watts in the CPU-z stress test. But with an EDC of 180 amps, and limitless PPT (technically, 1000 amp TDC/1000 watt PPT, aka "Asus Performance Enhancement" option turned on), it'll hit 90C @ 190 watts in Prime95 under an in place FFT @ 220-230k AVX load. Needs both more displacement with the fins and bigger fans. But I never see that in real world usage. Even when it's at 100% compiling shaders, that's usually 165 watts which puts it around 70C, I believe. I can't remember exactly. The heatsink on the cooler in this image needs to be at least twice as thick. That's why it's so cheap.... those fins are too short. But I love the design. It also has 7 pipes instead of the typical 6 pipes you see on top notch air coolers. Not sure what size they are, though. As long as those fins can cool those pipes, it may be excellent. I can't tell by looking.
No this is actually good. The air that comes out of the cooler is only a handful degrees warmer than what came in, and more airflow cools VRM better. Downdraft coolers are known for excellent mainboard cooling performance, look at any review - Thermalright and Noctua make large downdraft coolers as well and Scythe did until not too long ago. The ideal use for this sort of cooler is to give it a cold air intake on the side of your chassis though. These used to be widespread. But it's not exactly critical. And you need an extracting fan at the back of your enclosure regardless. Because pressure overrides velocity, you can't expect the air from a tower cooler to cruise through the rear grill of your PC on velocity alone.
@@bliglum if stock coolers had thermal impedance 4 times lower than they do and a good airflow to noise ratio like this, there wouldn't be an aftermarket cooler market. Tower coolers have a bit of a problem that they like breaking mainboards in mail transit because the weight is at a distance, lots of leverage, so computer manufacturers don't like using them; but they're spectacularly cheap to build for a given cooling capability. This is how they became the main type in the DIY and enthusiast market. They aren't inherently better, they just make sense for DIY builds.
Noctua is still a better deal because, unless the ihs shape changes, they will literally give or sell you whatever ihs mount you need. I trust them with any cpu I have.
I use noctua on all my computers, I got a 360 aio and noctua is way better plus that radiator stays hot especially in the summer I even put the radiator on the top outside the case I took it out and it's still in the box new use it 1 week.
They have a "mini" version that has 1 less heat pipe. But, also vastly improves the installation process with holes in the cooling vanes that line up with the screws.
@@Xx_HARAMBE96_xX wrong a top end aios will always outperform any air cooler. There are reasons to get both but saying air can cool better is straight up false. If you want best budget to performance air cooler get a deepcool ak620. Want a better aio that will perform marginally better. Get something from artic.
The Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 I have a Ryzen 7700X thats kept a Boost and almost 5.8 GHz out of the Box with a Base Clock of 4.5GHz and it rarely Leaves 65°C under load and Idles at around 35° to 40°
@bruh I mean he specifically said access so i dunno, but personally I don't think a big air cooler looks bad as it fills up the empty space between your mobo and the side panel making it look more complete, but either way he could just be a extreme tweaker that needs to swap his ram often or something but i have no idea otherwise why someone needs to access the mobo often.
Imo Aio are too fragile, and only useful in sff, because they last 2-5 years and you don't know when the pump will fail. I bought my aircooler in 2012, in the mean time a friend using AIOs had 3 pumps fail and got back to a noctua dual tower. Low end AIO are more expensive than air cooling and unreliable, and if you're getting a high end AIO, you might as well be getting a water-cooling kit.
@@th9986I build my first PC in 2014 and it's not often you need access to the motherboard. But when you do, it's not a pain in the ass to take everything apart just to switch out the ram. Also there's a performance difference with these new big RTX cards, those thing spew alot of heat and having 2 or 3 120M fans + radiator right at the edge of the case isolates the heat very well. There is a significant difference in idle temperature of AIO Vs Air-cooler. My CPU idles at 30-40 degrees C and never goes above 60-65 when gaming. The only thing is reliability but I've had this NXZT AIO for about 3 years now so it'll eventually stop working. If you have the money, AIOs are definitely the way to go.
Custom loops are a lot more expensive than an air cooler, so it makes more sense for people on a limited budget. It’s a better choice instead of say a cheap DIY kit, and/or a cheap Craigslist installer.
I dealt with a slow leak for over a year from my frustratingly obnoxious hard pipe bends between the Bitspower 3090 FE water block and the Lian Li case with integrated tank. Finally got it fixed after the leak got super bad and I had to do several full drains and redo the bends several times with new PETG pipe cuts.
It's going to preform better. This is some random Chinese bs. As someone with a 13700k and 4090 I really doubt that will give me as good cooling. My look has two 360 rads and a 13700 still gets warm without a contact plate.
Agreed. Get The Lab testing it out. Also I don't trust because this dude makes a lot of shit takes. The thing I like about this channel is it makes me feel like I can do anything.
It would be interesting if PCs were built with a venting process in mind that is a mix of regular fans and air conditioner (like regular vents on a room).
@@MrBadlandabad for the fractal north case. the side panels are mesh and you would be able to pull fresh air right from the side instead of relying on the front panel fans to feed air to the cooler. The more im thinking of a build with this, im actually considering the new ap201 from asus now. I more so want to slim down my build esp since I dont tend to *upgrade* my system outside of swapping whole builds. I'd be pretty content with a well spec'd pc with just a single gpu an air cooler and a 2tb ssd.
@@sander373 I’m actually planning a build with that case right now. I’m torn between liquid cooling and air cooling. I want the minimalist style that the case brings, so air cooling looks like the way. Only thing I’m not sure of is the airflow with a mesh side panel. I’m unsure if the mesh makes the front fans redundant. Like if the airflow will dissipate out the mesh. The only way I see, that could solve it is if that mesh was occupied by the side mounted fans on the bracket. Buuuut.. if you’ve got 2x140 in the front and 1 or 2x120 on the side mesh, won’t that create too much positive pressure considering your only exhaust is 120 in the back and 240 up top? Idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@MrBadlandabad take out 1 140mm top exhaust and make it slightly positive? Don't aways gotta max everything out for best performance which is why I'm switching to matx.
But an ice giant thermo siphon is comparable with a custom WATER block while this is not. The cost of performance gained from this compared to what is achieved with the Ice Giant still puts the ice giant over.
as someone who uses a large tower cooler for the aesthetics of it, this has be intrigued, but i currently don't feel like i have to go out of my way to get it since what i have still works and still works well even after upgrading.
Dont send any money to China. Hilarious how a lot of tech people are democrats and claim to hate slavery, sex trafficking, pollution and climate change. But then they send all their money to China who leads in all of that.
or you could eliminate a bunch of failure points from your system with a lot less money by not water cooling. yes a fan can fail, but the fan failing doesnt completely stop airflow through the fins and make the system completely unusable.
@@Chris-dy1cb Definitely a perfectly valid and fine way to do things. Water cooling isn't practical, it is something you do because you want to, and because it is fun and part of the hobby of making a nice looking rig. If you're doing it purely from a performance point of view, then you're mostly wasting time and money.
Or air cool like me. I’ve been doing it for over 25 years and not a single issue. Have also saved a ton of money and time since maintenance is rarely needed
youre wrong according to gamersnexus reviews every aio cooler (he only tests 240mm and higher because 120/140mm aios are useless) beats the nh d15 you can look up any test
I'd be hesitant to believe everything they say before I see more tests performed by other tech reviewers. Blindly trusting companies in tech is never a good idea.
Agreed. It's looks like this thing just came out and there is only the claims made about it. Definitely would wait for a video to come out especially since it's a chinese brand.
Ram doesn’t overheat usually what I would he really worried about is the mobo vrms overheating and you know how it being hot vs hot and windy outside you prefer the hot windy same applies to the pcs airflow it may be hot air but at least it’s some sort of air flow
would like to see some benchmarks from this. But i think it might be flawed with getting the heat away in the default configuration, an airpull config seems to be better for this
The problem might be not having enough thermal capacity ( lower amount of water compared to a traditional reservoir system ) this might mean that performance would take a hit. Hard to guess the resulting performance hit though.
since it basically has less cooling area and just like any big tower cooler only 2 fans its probaby not gonna come anywhere close to watercooling level, not even to a full tower air cooler level
The AC does tend to remove most of the moisture from the air which means the air can't pull as much heat away from hot items as it could. It works but could be better.
Plenty of air coolers do just fine with this fan orientation. I'm sure having the fan pointed towards the back of the case is the better way to do it though, so the only use case I can think of here is if you're wanting something that will fit in an SFF case? I do find it hard to believe that this air cooler can out-perform water cooling, and frankly I think a water cooler looks a lot better than this thing
These style cpu coolers are not new, they have been around a long time. They have specific use cases. But be aware it's wide low profile might not be compatible with your Moderboard or Ram sticks. But for a flat form factor case, it might be the best out there.
This guy is an absolute G he literally gives you an option and doesn’t say oh this is $500… naw, it’s extremely affordable! Thank you so much bro… sadly, I already bought a water cooler that didn’t even fit on the top of my PC case so I had to front mount it but it does cool down my PC really good so I’m not crying… 😢
try learning about positive and negative pressure inside your PC case, a coherent airflow, correct positioning of your radiator and pump... rather than blame stuff on something you don't even know a thing about
I'm usually pretty confident with building PCs, I've done a couple and helped friends with theirs but water-cooling terrifies me... one mess up and that's an entire PC ruined. Copper pipes CPU coolers are the way to go though!
heatpipe can leak too (happend to me), but yes it easier and safer than water cooling, but maintained properly water cooling can be safe (use only distilled wtaer with proper product and it won't be conductive (don't use tap water)
@zored1337 Distilled water immediately becomes conductive as soon as it leaks and touches the dusty surfaces of your motherboard or GPU. Ask me how I know.
The heat sink is too short to clear the RAM and MOSFET heat sinks on motherboards, and the fans will still blow the hot air inside the static air inside the case, so it would have the same effect as most other aftermarket air cooled heat sinks at best
Just did some research on this claim, turns out for most RAM and MOSFET hest syncs it will clear. I am seeing 50mm and ~70mm clearance which clears my xtreem argb tforce RAM and my MoBo cpu power delivery modules. I am a big fan of air cooling for most use cases and see most AIOs as a purely asthetic reasons. That being said, I also saw no listings for this product and it seems to underperform to its claims in some reviews but get similiar performance.
problably not, its a lot bigger than the motherboard itself (ITX boards have 17cm, this cooler have 24). Most ITX cases are made as small as possible, so doesnt make sense to leave so much free space on the board sides.
just go for an aio if you do want liquid cooling. there is only one advantage and no one ever mentions it. its that your radiator doesn't have to be in ane specific area in the computer. other than that you need way more equipment to remove heat as efficiently as any good cooler. i used water cooling but its because it looks cool and my cpu and gpu geta very toasty and i have a small motherboard.
Well radiator shouldn't be in bottom (for case that support it like fractal torrent) because pump being the highest point in the loop with kill it very quickly with all air bubbles rising up there. But yeah front or top shouldn't matter wherever it fits
A company out of Texas makes one called IceGiant but its a bit more expensive and slightly larger, pretty sure either J2C or GN Reviewed it a while back, these new coolers actually look promising.
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When someone tells you "I am sponsored" without saying "I am sponsored'
Mans got the Alibaba merch pack
They are suppose to say somewhere usually in the title if it is sponsored otherwise they could get in trouble.
Tech channel are just like this. Mrwhostheboss seems like he was trying to sell a prison….
@@ReepsWasteOfTimei really hate that guy lol
@@ReepsWasteOfTime thats guys channel has to be one of the most popular garbage dumps i have ever seen on youtube. most of the stuff he is showing is garbage but people keep watching him
I literally just put my pc underground lol… like I put it in my super cold crawls space, no noise, no overheating. Would recommend.
Is there any dust tho, I feel like there would be a lot, also how would you go about maintenance and cleaning and upgrading is it easy to removev
I also am curious about the dust. Too much dust can just as easily short circuit the pc and fry everything
Ah yes, possibly burn your house down makes sense.
Air and dust are concerns but cool concept
I ran the radiator lines under the house along with two fan cables
I’d trust an ice giant over this right now
I have an ice giant, and if can keep a 7800X3D cool (never higher than 70C) in a pretty much solid aluminum case with only two fan mounts
The difference is that the Ice Giant is a legitimate product, not a pump and dump scam by a shady company that is primed for Amazon scams
Ice Giant keeps my 5950X cool when on an all core load.
yeah me too why ufdtech why you are so bayaran
@@avenger09123same setup same results 🎉
“Don’t water cool your pc!”
Alright I’ll just watch it fucking explode then.
or when it fails and leaks all over your expensive componen ts
@@cyansquad6763 If you do custom loops sure but premade ones almost never have that issue.
@@cyansquad6763skill issue
Or just air cool it.
@@esolo114 yup, unless your CPU is known to run hot or you have a high end CPU you shouldn’t need a AIO or any custom liquid cooler
It looks like someone kinda took a gpu heatsink and made it a bit taller
Noctua did that but in the opposite direction in 2011 they made a tower cooler like that and it kinda looks like their 30 series cooler
Yeah
@@togiisuperheavytank I kinda wanted the NH-C14s because it blew onto the cpu and surrounding components. It looked like a decently beefy solution and now I'm seeing this lol
just looks like a wider version of a low profile cooler that's been around for years, interesting but annoying if you have to change your RAM and you'll have to worry about your RAM height
And GPU heatsinks like that have crazy high cooling performance.
I usually use 2 car radiators and a water pump. Solves the problem everytime.
Dont forget to change oil too 😂
Not one, but two radiators capable of 130k+ watts each. Oh yeah definitely not overkill lmao
Gotta change the coolant every 50,000 operating hours
Im actually thinking of using one. aftermarket car radiator was so cheap compared to pc rad and i dont have to upgrade everything when i use bigger cpu. I even thinking of using heat exchanger inside the case and putting a semi truck radiator in a different room since the cpu heat was heating up my room. Even if using single 360mm radiator was enough, this line of thinking kept coming back.
I know it's a joke but here is why I've always preferred air cooling.
It's not about how much heat you can dissipate... so long as it's got enough fins and pipes.
It's about how much heat you can transfer FROM the CPU TO the baseplate of the cooler.
That is the number 1 most important part of a cooler. That's why we use paste. It's why good coolers, like you can see in this picture, rise to a point in the middle... so when you screw it down, it flattens and tries to make great contact with the IHS of the CPU.
If you don't have good contact, a 4 core big block radiator isn't going to have any heat from the CPU to dissipate.
It's why I like the Fuma 2 Rev B. For the size, it's high quality. It's high quality enough that it does grab all the heat, it just can't dissipate enough with the fins/pipes and especially those stupid fans they come with.
However, it keeps my 5900x @ 58C in the vast majority of games. 65C @ 142 watts in the CPU-z stress test.
But with an EDC of 180 amps, and limitless PPT (technically, 1000 amp TDC/1000 watt PPT, aka "Asus Performance Enhancement" option turned on), it'll hit 90C @ 190 watts in Prime95 under an in place FFT @ 220-230k AVX load. Needs both more displacement with the fins and bigger fans.
But I never see that in real world usage. Even when it's at 100% compiling shaders, that's usually 165 watts which puts it around 70C, I believe. I can't remember exactly.
The heatsink on the cooler in this image needs to be at least twice as thick. That's why it's so cheap.... those fins are too short. But I love the design. It also has 7 pipes instead of the typical 6 pipes you see on top notch air coolers. Not sure what size they are, though. As long as those fins can cool those pipes, it may be excellent.
I can't tell by looking.
Blow all that CPU heat back at the motherboard and ram instead of out of the case...flawless!
That's what I was thinking. Blowing all that hot air directly down onto the ram and power delivery seems sub-optimal.
Use ducting to remove air.
No this is actually good. The air that comes out of the cooler is only a handful degrees warmer than what came in, and more airflow cools VRM better. Downdraft coolers are known for excellent mainboard cooling performance, look at any review - Thermalright and Noctua make large downdraft coolers as well and Scythe did until not too long ago.
The ideal use for this sort of cooler is to give it a cold air intake on the side of your chassis though. These used to be widespread. But it's not exactly critical.
And you need an extracting fan at the back of your enclosure regardless. Because pressure overrides velocity, you can't expect the air from a tower cooler to cruise through the rear grill of your PC on velocity alone.
@@SianaGearz It's basically a fancy stock cooler.
@@bliglum if stock coolers had thermal impedance 4 times lower than they do and a good airflow to noise ratio like this, there wouldn't be an aftermarket cooler market.
Tower coolers have a bit of a problem that they like breaking mainboards in mail transit because the weight is at a distance, lots of leverage, so computer manufacturers don't like using them; but they're spectacularly cheap to build for a given cooling capability. This is how they became the main type in the DIY and enthusiast market. They aren't inherently better, they just make sense for DIY builds.
"hey man what kinda cooler you got?"
"...Jew Shark..."
fucking died laughing
wth hahaha
i dont need it. i dont need it... I NEEED IT
Where do I send my money?
SpongeBob's reference
We're all going to make the same upgrade to our pcs, aren't we?
@@J1nx_exe yep
but but but i need it to low key he needs to show us its amazing
I can imagine Linus replacing those fans with Noctuas
Noctua did show a prototype of this design all the way back in 2011.
Noctua better
Yes
Nah blowy-ma-trons. Then run them at max power.
I can imagine how I replace them with server 120mm 260cfm ones...
Noctua is still a better deal because, unless the ihs shape changes, they will literally give or sell you whatever ihs mount you need. I trust them with any cpu I have.
I Agree Noctua exist why bother with any other Air Cooler
You'd have to be a reverse genius to buy one of these POS coolers over a Noctua.
I use noctua on all my computers, I got a 360 aio and noctua is way better plus that radiator stays hot especially in the summer I even put the radiator on the top outside the case I took it out and it's still in the box new use it 1 week.
They have a "mini" version that has 1 less heat pipe. But, also vastly improves the installation process with holes in the cooling vanes that line up with the screws.
Totally not me slobbering at the mouth as I think of my overheating issues and find the perfect solution 😅
@@Walczyk top end air coolers perform usually better than top end aios anyway
This might be used for itx builds... maybe.
Hopefully it becomes available.
@@Xx_HARAMBE96_xX wrong a top end aios will always outperform any air cooler. There are reasons to get both but saying air can cool better is straight up false.
If you want best budget to performance air cooler get a deepcool ak620.
Want a better aio that will perform marginally better. Get something from artic.
@@Walczyk u know what happens when the pump breaks?
New watter cooler.
U know what happens when a fan breaks?
New fans and u still retain the heatsink
The Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 I have a Ryzen 7700X thats kept a Boost and almost 5.8 GHz out of the Box with a Base Clock of 4.5GHz and it rarely Leaves 65°C under load and Idles at around 35° to 40°
90% of why I’m using aio watercooling is to have easy access to the motherboard, this would be 90% obstructing access to the mobo
why do you need access to your mobo so often
@@zoxl345 Right? His logic don’t make sense, I haven’t touched my motherboard in months
@bruh I mean he specifically said access so i dunno, but personally I don't think a big air cooler looks bad as it fills up the empty space between your mobo and the side panel making it look more complete, but either way he could just be a extreme tweaker that needs to swap his ram often or something but i have no idea otherwise why someone needs to access the mobo often.
Imo Aio are too fragile, and only useful in sff, because they last 2-5 years and you don't know when the pump will fail.
I bought my aircooler in 2012, in the mean time a friend using AIOs had 3 pumps fail and got back to a noctua dual tower.
Low end AIO are more expensive than air cooling and unreliable, and if you're getting a high end AIO, you might as well be getting a water-cooling kit.
@@th9986I build my first PC in 2014 and it's not often you need access to the motherboard. But when you do, it's not a pain in the ass to take everything apart just to switch out the ram.
Also there's a performance difference with these new big RTX cards, those thing spew alot of heat and having 2 or 3 120M fans + radiator right at the edge of the case isolates the heat very well.
There is a significant difference in idle temperature of AIO Vs Air-cooler. My CPU idles at 30-40 degrees C and never goes above 60-65 when gaming.
The only thing is reliability but I've had this NXZT AIO for about 3 years now so it'll eventually stop working.
If you have the money, AIOs are definitely the way to go.
lmfao.. I've been doing custom loops for years and that has NEVER happened.. not once has a single leak ever arrised!
Cause you're competent
Custom loops are a lot more expensive than an air cooler, so it makes more sense for people on a limited budget. It’s a better choice instead of say a cheap DIY kit, and/or a cheap Craigslist installer.
I dealt with a slow leak for over a year from my frustratingly obnoxious hard pipe bends between the Bitspower 3090 FE water block and the Lian Li case with integrated tank. Finally got it fixed after the leak got super bad and I had to do several full drains and redo the bends several times with new PETG pipe cuts.
@@EarlCo sounds like more of a hassle than its worth, an air cooler and done. never look back.
@@cjwrench07I might just get an aio. I’m a beginner so not really ready for custom loop yet. Whole lot of work
Cooler Master made one these over 10 years ago. I have it on an old AM2 build
i was about to say the same thing
I just prefer my custom loop because it looks dope
It's going to preform better. This is some random Chinese bs. As someone with a 13700k and 4090 I really doubt that will give me as good cooling. My look has two 360 rads and a 13700 still gets warm without a contact plate.
And this is only for cpu, not gpu@@BouncingZeus
@@BouncingZeus I thought it would be obvious, but an air cooler is not as effiecient as a water cooler, in performance.
@Newko my pool cooled pc works great *getting shocked noises*
@@TylerTMG it works until it doesnt hehe
Ya I'm gonna need to see LTT test this thing.
Yeah I'm sort of hesitant to believe them, especially considering it's a Chinese company.
More like GN
Agreed. Get The Lab testing it out. Also I don't trust because this dude makes a lot of shit takes. The thing I like about this channel is it makes me feel like I can do anything.
@@benjaminpadillaaa Gamers Nexus X Linus Tech Tips
yeah, gonna need to see benchmarks
There’s now way that’s fitting into my Thor Zone Mjolnir case! 😂
This guy is gonna be forgotten soon enough.
Me with 65w: 😂😂😂
*Credit card slamming noises*
Same
When you realize 65w means 80-200 watts today.
@@milescarter7803 adjusted for inflation
Lmfao😂😂😂
@@milescarter7803 what does this mean
I REALLY want to see GamersNexus test this
I think they already did.
It's not great
They haven't yet, no video at least. I'd love to see them make a vid about it too.
@@l.a.wright6912 wtf u mean they said it’s good
I REALLY want to see LTT test it instead
It would be interesting if PCs were built with a venting process in mind that is a mix of regular fans and air conditioner (like regular vents on a room).
Looks like a bad misunderstanding of the thermosiphon.
This would actually be perfect for the new fractal mesh case.
How so?
@@MrBadlandabad for the fractal north case. the side panels are mesh and you would be able to pull fresh air right from the side instead of relying on the front panel fans to feed air to the cooler.
The more im thinking of a build with this, im actually considering the new ap201 from asus now. I more so want to slim down my build esp since I dont tend to *upgrade* my system outside of swapping whole builds. I'd be pretty content with a well spec'd pc with just a single gpu an air cooler and a 2tb ssd.
@@sander373 I’m actually planning a build with that case right now. I’m torn between liquid cooling and air cooling. I want the minimalist style that the case brings, so air cooling looks like the way.
Only thing I’m not sure of is the airflow with a mesh side panel. I’m unsure if the mesh makes the front fans redundant. Like if the airflow will dissipate out the mesh. The only way I see, that could solve it is if that mesh was occupied by the side mounted fans on the bracket.
Buuuut.. if you’ve got 2x140 in the front and 1 or 2x120 on the side mesh, won’t that create too much positive pressure considering your only exhaust is 120 in the back and 240 up top?
Idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@MrBadlandabad take out 1 140mm top exhaust and make it slightly positive? Don't aways gotta max everything out for best performance which is why I'm switching to matx.
This man pissed off the entire PC community from 1 post about a single failed water cooled computer.
he is just doing this for kickbacks.. that's all.. no other reason..
I mean. Failures of liquid cooling is still higher than air cooling
@@zsavage1820 It's a $40 part with small potential kickback benefit vs even the cheapest AIO easily being double at minimum.
Cause the screws on that liquid cooler weren't SCREWED ALL THE WAYYYYYYYY
The hassle, the overhead, the maintanance. Watercooling is for tùrbòvírqins or their proxies.
Me with a stock cooler with ruined bearings:
I dont believe that this thing can really handle 265 watts until i see some benchmark results
Now have this vs the IceGiant cooler
Obviously the icegiant wins.....
Price difference tho 🤤
But an ice giant thermo siphon is comparable with a custom WATER block while this is not. The cost of performance gained from this compared to what is achieved with the Ice Giant still puts the ice giant over.
This and the Thermalright PA120 mean us budget PC cooling enthusiasts have never had it better.
se214xt is pretty solid for being dirt cheap
Damn, i might try it, you are right on the price though, its ~$40 direct from them
I can see that inside a NR200 case, that supports a 240mm rad at the side, wonder if it would clear the psu...
as someone who uses a large tower cooler for the aesthetics of it, this has be intrigued, but i currently don't feel like i have to go out of my way to get it since what i have still works and still works well even after upgrading.
Sadly it's not available in the US yet maybe one day
International market be like
@@iGNUiCould Wait what, really?
Yea, only offered in china
Off to China I go!
Dont send any money to China. Hilarious how a lot of tech people are democrats and claim to hate slavery, sex trafficking, pollution and climate change. But then they send all their money to China who leads in all of that.
It actually caused pain to watch the water leak.
Funnilly enough, 40$ is also what they should've paid you for this god awful publicity
Or just water cool it properly... Been doing it for 13 years and have yet to liquid damage a single component.
or you could eliminate a bunch of failure points from your system with a lot less money by not water cooling.
yes a fan can fail, but the fan failing doesnt completely stop airflow through the fins and make the system completely unusable.
Or air cool for 8 years like me and everyone else with the only maintenance being reapplication of thermal paste when you get bored.
@@Chris-dy1cb Definitely a perfectly valid and fine way to do things. Water cooling isn't practical, it is something you do because you want to, and because it is fun and part of the hobby of making a nice looking rig.
If you're doing it purely from a performance point of view, then you're mostly wasting time and money.
Or air cool like me. I’ve been doing it for over 25 years and not a single issue. Have also saved a ton of money and time since maintenance is rarely needed
@christophervanzetta but you get worse cooling and louder noise
Ive got a noctua NH-D15, it is comparable to a 240mm liquid cooler
No it can provide cooling like 360mm aio..keep temperature around 65 to 67°© for cpu like 12700k or 13700k
youre wrong according to gamersnexus reviews every aio cooler (he only tests 240mm and higher because 120/140mm aios are useless) beats the nh d15
you can look up any test
@@panchalhardik4118 it cant even provide cooling as any aio in the market except maybe those single fan aios just look up gamersnexus videos
Went to their site and this product doesn't exist. Am I missing something?
It might only be available in certain markets, maybe. Or, they cancelled it after problems.
@@cjwrench07I think it's out of stock or it's limited in the US. Probably an OEM or a test product
Liquid Cooler is a 50/50 for me, 50% to actually cool your PC for a long period and 50% to leak and destroys my component.
I'd be hesitant to believe everything they say before I see more tests performed by other tech reviewers. Blindly trusting companies in tech is never a good idea.
Agreed. It's looks like this thing just came out and there is only the claims made about it. Definitely would wait for a video to come out especially since it's a chinese brand.
Especially Chinese companies.
"dont ever watercool your pc!"
Next video:
"u need start watercooling your pc!"
My computer is the spare fridge. Runs stupid cool
Ah yes cool my ram with the hot air from my cpu cooler
Ram doesn’t overheat usually what I would he really worried about is the mobo vrms overheating and you know how it being hot vs hot and windy outside you prefer the hot windy same applies to the pcs airflow it may be hot air but at least it’s some sort of air flow
Having airflow over it is better than having none at all. The air that comes off a radiator is nowhere near as hot as the CPU itself is
How do you know the air is blowing down and not upwards? The main issue would probably be getting the hot air out of the case.
Lol. That's not how aircoolers work. They suck air from the case into the processor/rams!
@@zackary87kr In horizontal coolers the air is blown downwards. Towards the fins is a good rule. And for the hot air: that's why exhaust fans are for.
would like to see some benchmarks from this.
But i think it might be flawed with getting the heat away in the default configuration, an airpull config seems to be better for this
The problem might be not having enough thermal capacity ( lower amount of water compared to a traditional reservoir system ) this might mean that performance would take a hit. Hard to guess the resulting performance hit though.
since it basically has less cooling area and just like any big tower cooler only 2 fans its probaby not gonna come anywhere close to watercooling level, not even to a full tower air cooler level
i don’t understand how people have overheating problems these days with robust cooling solutions being so inexpensive.
"hide your ugly motherboard for only $40"
My ac vent blows directly into my pc intake, temps never go higher than 72°C under heavy load
The AC does tend to remove most of the moisture from the air which means the air can't pull as much heat away from hot items as it could. It works but could be better.
My mini ITX rig never goes over 72 either.. in a room with a fireplace. There might be something wrong with your rig dude.
I won’t trust it until Linus reviews it
The review itself will be not enough for me... I need to see him drop it! 😅
Or gamer nexus
This comment aged like milk.
imagine blowing heat back into your CPU and VRMS
Plenty of air coolers do just fine with this fan orientation. I'm sure having the fan pointed towards the back of the case is the better way to do it though, so the only use case I can think of here is if you're wanting something that will fit in an SFF case? I do find it hard to believe that this air cooler can out-perform water cooling, and frankly I think a water cooler looks a lot better than this thing
Bro found a glitch irl
How are you recommending this without trying it yourself?
Common sense
These style cpu coolers are not new, they have been around a long time. They have specific use cases. But be aware it's wide low profile might not be compatible with your Moderboard or Ram sticks. But for a flat form factor case, it might be the best out there.
hehe my room stays at a nice 30°F.. my pc needs no extra cooling 😂
Bruh. Last short before sleep went wrong
This guy is an absolute G he literally gives you an option and doesn’t say oh this is $500… naw, it’s extremely affordable! Thank you so much bro… sadly, I already bought a water cooler that didn’t even fit on the top of my PC case so I had to front mount it but it does cool down my PC really good so I’m not crying… 😢
Absolute G that shows no data about how good this cooler actually is. Yeah great guy!
try learning about positive and negative pressure inside your PC case, a coherent airflow, correct positioning of your radiator and pump...
rather than blame stuff on something you don't even know a thing about
The guy who has liquid nitrogen cooled PC: ha peasants!
Liquid nitrogen evaporates quickly, it's for short term sprints to set benchmark scores not daily driver
Water cooling has more consistent temperatures over any kind of air cooler. Especially living in warmer climates.
I’m scared of water cooling😭
I'm usually pretty confident with building PCs, I've done a couple and helped friends with theirs but water-cooling terrifies me... one mess up and that's an entire PC ruined. Copper pipes CPU coolers are the way to go though!
heatpipe can leak too (happend to me), but yes it easier and safer than water cooling, but maintained properly water cooling can be safe (use only distilled wtaer with proper product and it won't be conductive (don't use tap water)
you can pressure test the loop before any liquid goes in. Its slightly less nerve racking when you know your loops air tight.
It’s really not very scary, the liquid they use is very unlikely to cause any harm to your pc components.
@zored1337 Distilled water immediately becomes conductive as soon as it leaks and touches the dusty surfaces of your motherboard or GPU. Ask me how I know.
@@looks-suspicious aren’t you suppose to keep your pc dust free, they have those eclectic air dusters for about 60$ you can do that daily.
The heat sink is too short to clear the RAM and MOSFET heat sinks on motherboards, and the fans will still blow the hot air inside the static air inside the case, so it would have the same effect as most other aftermarket air cooled heat sinks at best
I think this has the same case of cooling a non blower gpu
If there isn’t enough airflow in the case, it’ll just keep on recycling the same hot air
Just did some research on this claim, turns out for most RAM and MOSFET hest syncs it will clear. I am seeing 50mm and ~70mm clearance which clears my xtreem argb tforce RAM and my MoBo cpu power delivery modules. I am a big fan of air cooling for most use cases and see most AIOs as a purely asthetic reasons. That being said, I also saw no listings for this product and it seems to underperform to its claims in some reviews but get similiar performance.
" *JF 13K* " 💀
If you live in a cold area just stick it outside or something
Will it fit in an itx case?
it looks like it runs parallel to the gpu so probably.
problably not, its a lot bigger than the motherboard itself (ITX boards have 17cm, this cooler have 24). Most ITX cases are made as small as possible, so doesnt make sense to leave so much free space on the board sides.
I can see this fitting
When u need to troubleshoot your PC: Ah shit...
I just use my refrigerator to cool my pc 🗿🍷
just go for an aio if you do want liquid cooling.
there is only one advantage and no one ever mentions it.
its that your radiator doesn't have to be in ane specific area in the computer.
other than that you need way more equipment to remove heat as efficiently as any good cooler.
i used water cooling but its because it looks cool and my cpu and gpu geta very toasty and i have a small motherboard.
Well radiator shouldn't be in bottom (for case that support it like fractal torrent) because pump being the highest point in the loop with kill it very quickly with all air bubbles rising up there. But yeah front or top shouldn't matter wherever it fits
I love that the dialog flows seamlessly when the video loops lol
If watercooling is done properly it beats every air cooler.
Not beats, wipe the floor with them. Can air coolers ever go below 0 degree?
that cooler definitely doesnt have me drooling for air cooling
when I heard the price my jaw literally dropped
could be nice if I could actually buy it
*laughs in nh-d15*
Do whatever you want. Especially don’t listen to screaming people on the interwebs.
Fun fact: for 6 months out of every year in canada you don't need any cooler at all for your pc
I’ll stick with my custom Watercooling loop thank you very much
the clip at the beginning made me physically revolt
I was sceptical but this man said $40.
Cool now I can show off five fans instead of anything else. Just a big wall of fans. Glad I have a window on my pc lol.
Yoooo. . . I'm in! Are there benchmarks for this cooler? And where can we get these?
*“Don't ever want to call your PC”*
D.E.A.D. 💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️
this is correct fan position, the normal 1 fan is has center that not even cooling
Made in china isn't. so we can definitely trust the build quality 🙂
A company out of Texas makes one called IceGiant but its a bit more expensive and slightly larger, pretty sure either J2C or GN Reviewed it a while back, these new coolers actually look promising.
You see all that Chinese writing? That's why it's 40 bucks.. but at least it won't leak all over your rig
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I would consider using it, if it had an AM5 mount.
It says it works with AM5 on Amazon
@@drumlineking07 their own website says it’s an am4 cooler
@@XShadowCatzX there's a review on gamers nexus where it shows it being mounted to an AM5
My wallet looking at me:👀
Macintosh is doing 28,300 GeekBench without liquid cooling.
That is some actually useful knowledge thanks
Sounds good until the I9-1400k laughs at it
The price has already been jacked up by 200 percent.
They knew what they were doing when they called it the JF13K 💀
Some of us have limited space
I can imagine Linus making shit review for it, not even properly than tank the product to the ground and selling it at auction without permision :)
Yeah glad I unsuccessful never knew they were so such scams behind the sence
Scythe Susanoo is the progenitor
Noctua NH-D15 w/ 3 fans is my favorite air cooler, and this one I might have to try out.
How do you get the extra 2 clips for the 3rd fan?
@@RealDad0418 aliexpress
@@RealDad0418 ask noctua to send them
I can't wait to get one for my quad core
Yeah, sure.. blow your super hot air to your mobo and ram heatsink...
Dude that jfk cooler is making my head explode
ram reset turns into cpu cooler removal? nahhhh
I built one like this out of a passive cooler years ago with two 120mm fans.