Ethan Wagner well the reason why he spoke poorly was that he is a parasite and him and the flood talk different than us humans like take the elites for example they don’t talk like us and have a different mouth formation just like the flood and the gravemind and sometimes whenever the elites talk English they look weird and plus the reason why he looks weird when he talks is that it’s supposed to make you feel you are talking to something other than human.
The whole entire speaking in the original HALO 2 was poorly animated, but didn't care at the time game was amazing, the anniversary was amazing for me and i play HALO 2 nonstop now
I like the spore mist/bloom effect of this more, but literally everything else, from gravemind's sound effects, to amped up ambient music and other sound effects, the gnarly multiple layers of teeth and rotting blood, the sheer size scale, the utterly terrifying tentacles, the anniversary version is better bar none. It only missed out on the bloom of spores.
2:45 Arbiter stops struggling and looks at Gravemind with great intent for a couple seconds before lowering his head in contemplation. This may have been a mistake by the original animators, but I think it was absolutely intentional. It is absent from the anniversary version of the cutscene, which is unfortunate because it is a brilliant way to tell the player that Arbiter is thinking about his decisions and actions without spelling it out directly.
yeah definitely intentional. i can think of a few moments in the campaign where the camera holds on the arbiter as he's noticing or reacting to something & yeah his face isn't animated (bc what would elite facial expressions look like) but his body language & often the tilt of his head are used to convey what he's thinking & feeling. really well done. halo 2 endearing us to the elites was the highlight of the franchise for me
He does the same once asking 343 in the control room about the true nature of the Halo arrays. Very intentional here too, there's only so many ways to emote an Elite.
Yeah, the new cutscene by Blur isn't that great. If you can get past the vintage graphics, the cinematography of the older cutscenes are far better in my opinion.
Tarantula The SandWing I mean the gravemind has the memories of all the other gravminds maybe it remembered to mimic a child’s voice to intimidate arby?
Well, the gravemind currently is literally a mass convergence of all the races it’s assimilated. So pretty much it’s talking through all the biomass it’s merged together
I felt one of the (few) mistakes Anniversary made was changing the close up on the Arbiter during the 'all will perish as they did before' scene. That moment of doubt in Arbiter's eyes was a key moment in the character's progression.
The thing I'll always remember watching this as a kid was the tone and movements when he says "Knew what they wrought". I just loved that line, and it always looked so cool to me.
it's still insane how this was even possible back then in 2004. Like it still blows my mind how great the xbox was at processing intense scenes like this.
Four different factions with radically different culture and objectives all tied into one connected story line. The storytelling in this game is some of the best I ever experienced.
Damn, the remastered cut scenes for the master chief collection look incredible. I had to come see the original again to compare. This one looks good too of course, but damn does the new version look awesome.
@Joker Ministry bias is a good guy now after his meditation he’s have moved the halo so you could drive and he slipspaced you to the didactic shield world cause infinity needed chief to escape the world
I am partial to the new Gravemind’s mouth design. He has the outermost row of teeth around the edges of his giant maw, the main set of teeth set in the center, then if you look closely you can see yet another much more animated mouth moving inside of that mouth to form the words. Truly amazing animation.
The way how the prophets body is mostly dissolved into the gravemind, to the point where hes just a head and an arm sticking out of the tenticle with vein things from the tenticle penetrating his skull into his brain, its disgusting and sends a chill down my spine when you think about how hes been living like that for a while. Creepy
Okay im glad im not the only one who noticed that the arbiter actually finally listened at the "All will perish as they did before" part, anniversary didnt do a closeup on the arbiter and I dont know why.
The remake is missing the music cue in the line 'you will seach one likely spot, and you will search another', which is pretty unforgivable, if you ask me.
@@evil1143 That's idiotic. Music can make or break a scene. The beautiful music in the Halo series is absolutely central to the epic feel of the story, as demonstrated in this case.
playing years ago i always thought the initial design was supposed to be a mockery of Master Chief. The colors and the mouth segments aligned looked like His Helmet
I used to think before I played Halo 2, in Halo 3, when Truth is making his speech to Arbiter, he says: "I shall become a god!" So when Gravemind's tentacles came up, I thought he became a god.
I've always preferred this version more then the anniversary. Without the mouth, I always assumed that the Gravemind was telepathically speaking which is why he heard Cortana even though she's in Chief's head at the time with is further supported by how it talks to you in Halo 3. The mouth kind of ruins that.
no, this is for the xbox. I played it on the newest xbox as of now, the Kinect. it might just be my weird screen recorder. wow. I didn't know that this would get so many views :D
the og plant one had some real nice environmental story telling. makes it seem like it survived the og halo firing. After all its a plant, and talks as if it saw the end of all things. the fact that its a plant also would explain why the other flood attack you despite you being the only one capable of saving the universe. Like the gravemind was severed from the rest of the hivemind.
If your game is messed up a bit random images will pop up my little brother took my Halo 2 to his friends house and they screwed it up because it wouldn't play on my 360 anymore and now I'm having trouble finding a new copy.
The anniversary version obviously looks better, but I like the look of this gravemind and wish the updated version kept a little closer to the weird green flytrap we have here.
It looks like a giant venus trap because this gravemind was not even properly modeled (look at the amount of texture errors it has inside the mouth), this was not what bungie wanted to do just look in the conceptual arts
compared to H2A, i prefer this one... the scene is darker, more misty, and there's a slight difference in the voice that makes it sound scarier as it should be.
I heard people didn't react well to the appearance of the gravemind in halo 2, which is probably why it doesn't show up in halo 3. It's so weird because the gravemind looks amazing in halo 2 anniversary so it retroactively seems weird that it wasn't shown in 3
I love it when an infectious zombie plague has plant like themes, but I feel like the Anniversary Gravemind is the ultimate realization of what they were trying to portray.
While visually, yes, the anniversary model is the original intent full realized I can't help but feel that less is more in this regard. Like the atmosphere here is a bit thicker than in anniversary due to the darker lighting at the fact we never truly see how Arby and Chief ended up in this exact location. It all lends into Cortana's opening question "what is that?" Like seriously, oh good god what is that thing???!!
Huh…So this is the creature that SCP-682 was inspired by. Or At least the voice actor of the character from the Analogue horror “SCP Sedition Series” stated that he was inspired by the Gravemind in this game.
new one looks like a giant prophet with its head blasted off, this one had more personality as it was harder to make out what each part is just the way the flood is. Also if you ever seen any animation with any non human talking without exactly having the mouth parts to speak with will go with this kind of animation. You see it done in giant anime titles like princess monoke with the wolves, but they compensated with the new one and gave it a cute mouth with teeth so people can read out the big words it spoke despite missing the point of it literally vocalizing through assimilation not because it had a big mouth to begin with to speak with us the entire time when it's obviously holds up the prophet and the oracle, doesn't feel as alien anymore but just another organism that you see everywhere in halo and you would think needs to eat regularly to survive and is stuck there ultimately, so especially considering how colorful the biology the stuff halo had just making it have red fleshy bits is pretty typical and branched away from the fungal aspect that predates the lastofus and gave into more generic zombie territory that some how left with less detail than it came in with.
I just came here from a video of the anniversary edition's cutscene lol Never played Halo, and obviously the anniversary one is superior is basically every way. Seems they used the same voice actors both times though. Maybe even the same recordings?
It might be some of the way shots are framed and the lighting darker, but I feel like I prefer the older design. The New gravemind at times feels more like it's a separate worm-like entity, tendrils clean and out of the way, while the old design feels like it's really the entire room itself, a forest of tendrils and flesh, and the mouth being but a small part. That and while this one animates weirdly, I really like that plant/fungal like aesthetic the original version had. Now, does the new version better convey what the gravemind is? To some extent, yes. But part of that is the higher res graphics the remaster had to work with.
This one is so much better than the Anniversary Gravemind. It actually looks like it's a part of the Flood; 343's take is too bloody and the teeth just don't work. It really goes to show that 343 just never has and cannot understand what Bungie was going for.
LOL after all this time, i just noticed the Arbiter's mouth was all wonky when it cuts to him after the "those who built this place" line. it's like it was wandering around and forgot it had a scene coming up.
In terms of design and general feel, I much prefer this. It sticks better with the overall design of the flood. The flood biomass has that sickly green color, which is switched out for blood red in the new, which is just a baffling decision. This fungal-plant thing fits better with what you'd expect of a late stage flood creature rather than the fleshy styling of the new one. The spore filled mist coming from its mouth is also a great touch that was dropped in the new one. The lighting is also darker to fit more with the underground cave feel to the location. There was also a strong implication of telepathic communication of some sort since it seemed to respond to Cortana's statement, so the focus on trying to give it an actual working mouth rather the using the classic design seemed silly to me. Then, there are the subtle hints from the Arbiter's movements in response that were lost since the new version focuses more on the gravemind. However, it's definitely not better in every way. The graphical fidelity is obviously vastly higher in the new version, and the movements of the characters are clearly more lifelike compared to the more robotic movements of the less advanced animation.
No idea why people say the H2A Gravemind was better. First of all, it’s 2004. Of course they aren’t going to make a shiny monster. Second, when I played this, my first thought wasn’t the Little Shop of Horrors, which I had seen at that point. It was, “OH HECK THAT THING IS HUGE! AND IT’S FREAKING FLOOD TOO?” Third, 343’s remakes have a bad habit of removing fogs that largely assist the eerieness of the situation (swamp in 343 Guilty Spark, Heretic room in The Arbiter, Gravemind in Gravemind).
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compared to anniversary, this grave mind looks like a big flower monster, compared to that demon tree lol
" feed me seymour feed me now!"
Petey Pirhanna!
This one makes more sense. The hidemind doesnt need teeth to eat.
@@elvaginon4438 In the developer's commentary they said they wanted him to have teeth made of skulls originally.
i prefer this one because it looks more like the flood does instead of the bloody mess of the new one
After watching the H2A version, I came to realize how poorly animated Gravemind's speaking was in Halo 2
Ethan Wagner well it was the original Xbox.
Ethan Wagner too bad they fucked the voice and made the scene uber bright and pretty instead of dark and bleak
Ethan Wagner well the reason why he spoke poorly was that he is a parasite and him and the flood talk different than us humans like take the elites for example they don’t talk like us and have a different mouth formation just like the flood and the gravemind and sometimes whenever the elites talk English they look weird and plus the reason why he looks weird when he talks is that it’s supposed to make you feel you are talking to something other than human.
The whole entire speaking in the original HALO 2 was poorly animated, but didn't care at the time game was amazing, the anniversary was amazing for me and i play HALO 2 nonstop now
I don’t think they were trying to give the Gravemind decent lip syncing
"Stay where you are! Nothing can be done until my snowman is complete!"
KnoxCarbon its sermon
@@UltraZombie115 wooosh
The Onion System r/ihavereddit
UltraZombie115 semen
UltraZombie115
Then why would you say that if you knew it was a joke?
"this one's containment and this one's great journey are the same"
Such a great, concise, and simple way to explain it.
Best dialogue ever written for a video game. Even Halo 3 can't compare.
The way Gravemind sneers after saying "containment" always makes me chuckle.
@@knightspartan7201wdym can't compare. Halo 3s dialogue is horrible.
Is it just me or when the gravemind closes it's mouth, it looks like master chiefs helmet
Thought exactly the same; and when he speaks with his mouth open it looks like an Elite head (Arbiter)
SYMBOLIZM!
VunderGuy My thoughts exactly it was a cleaver design for the Grave-mind in the original Halo 2, regardless if it was on purpose or not by Bungie.
Robert Wilson I I
Robert Wilson It does!!
I like the spore mist/bloom effect of this more, but literally everything else, from gravemind's sound effects, to amped up ambient music and other sound effects, the gnarly multiple layers of teeth and rotting blood, the sheer size scale, the utterly terrifying tentacles, the anniversary version is better bar none. It only missed out on the bloom of spores.
Not teeth, skulls.
@@jonesiboybeastmode6857 Shieet you right
Couldn’t agree more
@@jonesiboybeastmode6857 what do you mean?
@No CS:S your definitely joking
Keep in mind, when they made this, they were rushed
Oh yeah they were.
This looks better on an original copy of the game then in MCC note the voice sync with the mouth
yeah they fucked it all on pc
Yep. Didn’t work on their planned source engine. That’s why LASO is so cursed. They had to recode it all.
we all know about it.@@TheAsylumCat
2:45 Arbiter stops struggling and looks at Gravemind with great intent for a couple seconds before lowering his head in contemplation. This may have been a mistake by the original animators, but I think it was absolutely intentional. It is absent from the anniversary version of the cutscene, which is unfortunate because it is a brilliant way to tell the player that Arbiter is thinking about his decisions and actions without spelling it out directly.
yeah definitely intentional. i can think of a few moments in the campaign where the camera holds on the arbiter as he's noticing or reacting to something & yeah his face isn't animated (bc what would elite facial expressions look like) but his body language & often the tilt of his head are used to convey what he's thinking & feeling. really well done. halo 2 endearing us to the elites was the highlight of the franchise for me
He does the same once asking 343 in the control room about the true nature of the Halo arrays. Very intentional here too, there's only so many ways to emote an Elite.
I think I like the new design better
Me too, but I like how in the this version, you never actually get to see the vast majority of the creature, making you wonder just how big it is.
same
So does practically everyone else
Fidgety Lamb
In general, all of the new designs were way better imo.
@@MetalKing1417 you don't see the majority of him in Anniversary either wym
we all know this is the one cutscene you want to see the most in the anniversary
I looked away from the Cinematics Trailer when it (almost?) showed Gravemind because I don't want it spoiled
i must resist to not watch it ;-;
Gravemind is truly disturbing in Anniversary
you misspelled sexy
Yeah, the new cutscene by Blur isn't that great. If you can get past the vintage graphics, the cinematography of the older cutscenes are far better in my opinion.
That... thing... is voiced... by Perry.... the fucking Platypus.
And Bubble Bass, Techies, The Red Guy from Cow and Chicken.
2:35 childs voice underneath the graveminds
Kpoole25 very disturbing
Kpoole25 maybe it ate one 🤔 we'll never know
Tarantula The SandWing I mean the gravemind has the memories of all the other gravminds maybe it remembered to mimic a child’s voice to intimidate arby?
Could also be the screaming and screeching the flood make
Well, the gravemind currently is literally a mass convergence of all the races it’s assimilated. So pretty much it’s talking through all the biomass it’s merged together
I felt one of the (few) mistakes Anniversary made was changing the close up on the Arbiter during the 'all will perish as they did before' scene. That moment of doubt in Arbiter's eyes was a key moment in the character's progression.
The thing I'll always remember watching this as a kid was the tone and movements when he says "Knew what they wrought". I just loved that line, and it always looked so cool to me.
0:55 when our teacher is in a break day but the forman dont want us to go home
Lol
Poo monster gravemind. Ah the memories.
I am the great mighty poo, and I, am going to throw my shit at you!
it's still insane how this was even possible back then in 2004. Like it still blows my mind how great the xbox was at processing intense scenes like this.
The original Xbox when released in 2002 was more or less a midrange gaming PC. It was insanely powerful for the time.
I love the dialogue in this scene. Very well scripted and just a huge part of the story.
Four different factions with radically different culture and objectives all tied into one connected story line. The storytelling in this game is some of the best I ever experienced.
Damn, the remastered cut scenes for the master chief collection look incredible. I had to come see the original again to compare. This one looks good too of course, but damn does the new version look awesome.
I love the Prophet's scream when he gets pulled back down
I laughed when he screamed ... I wonder what he does down there.
He screams like Idubbbz in the sewer
@@backgroundcharacter9495 probably cursed to give the Gravemind eternal blowjobs
When it switched from cutscene to gameplay, I actually felt my instincts kick in.
Am I the only one that likes the original more than the anniversary version?
remake or original the gravemind is awesome as a villain I hope he returns in Halo 6
Fate Zero Fury That particular Gravemind is most likely dead. While the flood is technical "inactive" this Gravemind will not make a return.
True still would be nice for the flood to return with a new gravemind
Fate Zero Fury pretty much every Gravemind is the same. They all share memories and thoughts. Might sound different, but would be pretty much the same
@Joker Ministry he's definitely a really resilient and tough ass gravemind
@Joker Ministry bias is a good guy now after his meditation he’s have moved the halo so you could drive and he slipspaced you to the didactic shield world cause infinity needed chief to escape the world
The Anniversary Gravemind may be MUCH better made, but I personally really like the old design’s quadripartite mouth shape.
Monody both are great in their own ways
I am partial to the new Gravemind’s mouth design. He has the outermost row of teeth around the edges of his giant maw, the main set of teeth set in the center, then if you look closely you can see yet another much more animated mouth moving inside of that mouth to form the words. Truly amazing animation.
i find the remaster truly horrifying - someone at Blur figured out how how upsetting sever gingivitis looks.
"this is not your grave, but you are welcome in it."
That shit creeped me out back then...
The way how the prophets body is mostly dissolved into the gravemind, to the point where hes just a head and an arm sticking out of the tenticle with vein things from the tenticle penetrating his skull into his brain, its disgusting and sends a chill down my spine when you think about how hes been living like that for a while. Creepy
Chief: boo grunt: scream
rojelio rivera
that is my favorite part of the entire game
Truth: Kill the Demon!!
hotel: trivago
If you play this on laso, it's the other way around
@@WEEGEEV1RUS so true. Just legendary alone 💀
My childhood nightmares :)
Okay im glad im not the only one who noticed that the arbiter actually finally listened at the "All will perish as they did before" part, anniversary didnt do a closeup on the arbiter and I dont know why.
I miss bungie
we all do...
QuirkyAdventures Eh, not necessarily
@Furry Balls Plopped Menacingly On a Table yeah he probably does
I'm of the opinion that the sole reason that the flood never infected the arbiter is that the Gravemind simply doesn't want to.
The remake is missing the music cue in the line 'you will seach one likely spot, and you will search another', which is pretty unforgivable, if you ask me.
There were a lot of annoying changes they made and most of them were unnecessary, just for the sake of change
Lmao unforgivable? Really? In what way was that cue important. All it does is wrap up the conversation and carries onto the next scene.
It’s just music
@@evil1143 That's idiotic. Music can make or break a scene. The beautiful music in the Halo series is absolutely central to the epic feel of the story, as demonstrated in this case.
Arbiter and Graveminds redesigns were honestly so good. Same with the brutes
playing years ago i always thought the initial design was supposed to be a mockery of Master Chief. The colors and the mouth segments aligned looked like His Helmet
And when the mouth opens it kinda looks like Arbiter's face/mouth, adding to the effect.
It took the remastered version to make me realize that they weren't underwater this whole time....
I used to think before I played Halo 2, in Halo 3, when Truth is making his speech to Arbiter, he says: "I shall become a god!" So when Gravemind's tentacles came up, I thought he became a god.
I've always preferred this version more then the anniversary. Without the mouth, I always assumed that the Gravemind was telepathically speaking which is why he heard Cortana even though she's in Chief's head at the time with is further supported by how it talks to you in Halo 3. The mouth kind of ruins that.
Yes same
I have Halo 2 it awesome I actually think its better than Halo 5 would be
I have
Halo Master Chief Collection
Any Halo game is better than Halo 5
@@ThunderStruck115 Even halo 4 is better than halo 5
no, this is for the xbox. I played it on the newest xbox as of now, the Kinect. it might just be my weird screen recorder. wow. I didn't know that this would get so many views :D
the og plant one had some real nice environmental story telling. makes it seem like it survived the og halo firing. After all its a plant, and talks as if it saw the end of all things. the fact that its a plant also would explain why the other flood attack you despite you being the only one capable of saving the universe. Like the gravemind was severed from the rest of the hivemind.
If your game is messed up a bit random images will pop up my little brother took my Halo 2 to his friends house and they screwed it up because it wouldn't play on my 360 anymore and now I'm having trouble finding a new copy.
Buy it on the Xbox One
nah thats just screen burn. happens with a lot of 360 backward compatible games
eBay or Amazon for a cheap price, enjoy if you find what you seek
@@theta_clips wait fr?
The original writing was really great but the new cutscenes really perfected this. Hope blur do H3
It speaks with all the voices it has acquired.
In my opinion the Gravemind is one of the coolest things in Halo 2, and that's saying a lot.
… this is the same guy that voices Squilliam on Spongebob…
Yep, Dee Bradley Baker
Holy shit I just realized this footage has that really weird screen glitch that used to piss me and my brother off when we would play splitscreen
After watching this and comparing to the anniversary addition they did such a good job ... 😍
The anniversary version obviously looks better, but I like the look of this gravemind and wish the updated version kept a little closer to the weird green flytrap we have here.
It looks like a giant venus trap because this gravemind was not even properly modeled (look at the amount of texture errors it has inside the mouth), this was not what bungie wanted to do just look in the conceptual arts
This one looks interesting. I'm gonna see the anniversary version next. Wish me luck XD
They did an incredible job in the remaster. Turned this awesome scene into something better.
1:01 there is much talk. And I have listened through rock, and metal and time. Now I shall talk and you shall listen
compared to H2A, i prefer this one... the scene is darker, more misty, and there's a slight difference in the voice that makes it sound scarier as it should be.
Audio hiccup at the beginning :(
I highly prefer this version, i cant be the only one
Same here. I’m a sucker for the old graphics!
same
Both!
Agree with u bro💯
og one is better tbh
I heard people didn't react well to the appearance of the gravemind in halo 2, which is probably why it doesn't show up in halo 3. It's so weird because the gravemind looks amazing in halo 2 anniversary so it retroactively seems weird that it wasn't shown in 3
Remember when everyone thought the Gravemind was a Little Shop of Horrors reject.
I love it when an infectious zombie plague has plant like themes, but I feel like the Anniversary Gravemind is the ultimate realization of what they were trying to portray.
While visually, yes, the anniversary model is the original intent full realized I can't help but feel that less is more in this regard. Like the atmosphere here is a bit thicker than in anniversary due to the darker lighting at the fact we never truly see how Arby and Chief ended up in this exact location. It all lends into Cortana's opening question "what is that?" Like seriously, oh good god what is that thing???!!
Old Gravemind looks more like a Sarlacc Pit but I do like how Flood-like it looks rather than the H2A just being grotesquely fleshy.
Huh…So this is the creature that SCP-682 was inspired by. Or At least the voice actor of the character from the Analogue horror “SCP Sedition Series” stated that he was inspired by the Gravemind in this game.
so many memory's.
new one looks like a giant prophet with its head blasted off, this one had more personality as it was harder to make out what each part is just the way the flood is. Also if you ever seen any animation with any non human talking without exactly having the mouth parts to speak with will go with this kind of animation. You see it done in giant anime titles like princess monoke with the wolves, but they compensated with the new one and gave it a cute mouth with teeth so people can read out the big words it spoke despite missing the point of it literally vocalizing through assimilation not because it had a big mouth to begin with to speak with us the entire time when it's obviously holds up the prophet and the oracle, doesn't feel as alien anymore but just another organism that you see everywhere in halo and you would think needs to eat regularly to survive and is stuck there ultimately, so especially considering how colorful the biology the stuff halo had just making it have red fleshy bits is pretty typical and branched away from the fungal aspect that predates the lastofus and gave into more generic zombie territory that some how left with less detail than it came in with.
memories
I love the stylisation in the original. It looks like a puppet show.
Jesus Blur Studio, you guys are pure geniuses.
It's the Harbinger.
Lowkey tho looks like that mf especially the Side pieces
Mcc aint got shit on this masterpiece
Imagine someone seeing this vs. the anniversary for the first time
That's exactly what happened to my friend 😂
I just came here from a video of the anniversary edition's cutscene lol
Never played Halo, and obviously the anniversary one is superior is basically every way.
Seems they used the same voice actors both times though. Maybe even the same recordings?
My childhood right here man.
Relax I’d rather not piss this thing off pure badass
It might be some of the way shots are framed and the lighting darker, but I feel like I prefer the older design. The New gravemind at times feels more like it's a separate worm-like entity, tendrils clean and out of the way, while the old design feels like it's really the entire room itself, a forest of tendrils and flesh, and the mouth being but a small part. That and while this one animates weirdly, I really like that plant/fungal like aesthetic the original version had. Now, does the new version better convey what the gravemind is? To some extent, yes. But part of that is the higher res graphics the remaster had to work with.
This one is so much better than the Anniversary Gravemind. It actually looks like it's a part of the Flood; 343's take is too bloody and the teeth just don't work. It really goes to show that 343 just never has and cannot understand what Bungie was going for.
Had to reminisce cause that new gravemind looks fucking crazy.
It took me till the end of halo 3 to realize this thing is the flood.
1:07: welp, he has good taste in music.
Halo and little shop of horrors are in the same universe confirmed
Memories....
Venus flytrap Gravemind was laughably bad, but charming at the same time.
It was actually pretty good. But "I am a monument to all your sins" felt a bit to fast without the pause.
The grunt that Chief scares doesn't even have a running animation lol
Well, different difficulties have different scripts.
LOL after all this time, i just noticed the Arbiter's mouth was all wonky when it cuts to him after the "those who built this place" line. it's like it was wandering around and forgot it had a scene coming up.
did the arbiter voice 98% of the oblivion characters?
Keith David
I don’t think Keith David voiced any character from the ES series
this scene is way better than the remaster, in every way
Not really
In terms of design and general feel, I much prefer this. It sticks better with the overall design of the flood. The flood biomass has that sickly green color, which is switched out for blood red in the new, which is just a baffling decision. This fungal-plant thing fits better with what you'd expect of a late stage flood creature rather than the fleshy styling of the new one. The spore filled mist coming from its mouth is also a great touch that was dropped in the new one. The lighting is also darker to fit more with the underground cave feel to the location. There was also a strong implication of telepathic communication of some sort since it seemed to respond to Cortana's statement, so the focus on trying to give it an actual working mouth rather the using the classic design seemed silly to me. Then, there are the subtle hints from the Arbiter's movements in response that were lost since the new version focuses more on the gravemind.
However, it's definitely not better in every way. The graphical fidelity is obviously vastly higher in the new version, and the movements of the characters are clearly more lifelike compared to the more robotic movements of the less advanced animation.
At around 3:50 a brute just smacks the shit out of a grunt and I both laughed and felt happy
Remember Audrey Two?
This is him now. Feel old yet?
No idea why people say the H2A Gravemind was better. First of all, it’s 2004. Of course they aren’t going to make a shiny monster. Second, when I played this, my first thought wasn’t the Little Shop of Horrors, which I had seen at that point. It was, “OH HECK THAT THING IS HUGE! AND IT’S FREAKING FLOOD TOO?” Third, 343’s remakes have a bad habit of removing fogs that largely assist the eerieness of the situation (swamp in 343 Guilty Spark, Heretic room in The Arbiter, Gravemind in Gravemind).
My cat when I pick her up, 0:55
I like this design over the new one.
old one looks like those man eating plants in super mario
this is different by an inch is this of the pc version of halo 2
Like this version more. He looks more like Chief's helmet. There's a lot to work with there.
Aaaaaahhhh I don’t know which gravemind design I like better.. I think they’re equally horrifying
ok its just theres a different scene and graveminds voice script is different at the beggining but good job
I actually like the old one better than the new one imo. Its just the graphics I grew up with.
That's called being nostalgia blind
Never notice how they got the mouth shapes right for his animations.
4:22 They didn’t even give this mf a running animation 💀
I prefer classic gravemind to anniversary, the retro low poly horror has a lot more character in my opinion.
I do too, I can’t be the only one who doesn’t think the Side pieces resemble the harbinger/ how the primordial was described in the books tho 🤔
At least you can actually understand this one.
Aye, am a monument to all your sins
“Boo!”
*proceeds to A pose away in fear*