Pounding the pin in expands the rivet. The pin is now driven into new wood like a finish nail, and the head has expanded against the drilled wood. Having both these, along with the consistent appearance, makes it more than a nail. I like it!
I grew up in a sheet metal shop and learned from the best of the old timers but I have never seen that trick before.... Thanks I look forward to making use of that idea some day.
Cool of you mentioning Howard - we can only hope that folks will remember us and speak highly of us . That's the measure of a good person - as is speaking well of a good man . Cheers friend ...
Great video, I’ve used pop rivets before to attach sheet metal to a timber garage door, but I never thought to reverse the pin in the rivet. Another watch and learn moment thank you
one of the best and cleanest ways I've ever seen attaching metal to Wood. tell that sheet metal guy that's one of the best techniques I've seen in a good minute hats off.
What works even better is to install a hook strip first. A piece of metal formed to the same profile as the outside cap that is nailed or screwed to the existing sill. The “kinked” front of the hookstrip slips into a hem that is formed on the outside piece . This method prevents high winds from blowing it off. Worked for me for 40 years as a union architectural sheet metal worker.
Awesome tip Matt, and the story at the end is priceless. We all have that one person that showed compassion and knowledge. Thx for sharing your memories of Howard.
Having that 'one person' really makes for a rich life, doesn't it? Thanks for commenting on Howard's memory... its quite meaningful in these times of social media and lightning fast changes. Best, Matt
Hey Oliver... thank you for the Super Thanks gift! It's extra special because I just enabled this feature a couple days ago and you're the very first to express your thanks by using it... much appreciated! Best, Matt
This is perfect idea for an installation for my deck. I had a shed installed underneath my deck and the installers put slanted boards underneath the corrugated aluminum roof to divert the water away from the wooden walls. It was not a successful application as the water runs onto the wood anyway. So now I have to deal with keeping the wood from rotting on my own. I bought some rolled sheet metal flashing(1 foot wide or so) from home depot(color matched to my stain) and I am going to extend it out from the slanted wood. I will use the reverse riveting method to attach the sheet metal so water will not hit my wooden shed wall. Count me as one person you helped. Thank you for your kindness in sharing this with me. I will probably add a gutter as well.
That's cool, George! Be sure to goop 'em up well with silicone anywhere with constant exposure to water because the reverse rivet pins are relatively small and won't hold well in damp wood or heavy loads. No shame in using color matched washer head screws where necessary... Best, Matt
Matt, Thanks for additional insight, bar top is alum. ground metal intricate design/masked foreground w/candy background. Outside edge & joints will get rivet application
That's way useful !!! I've looked for a way to attach my bent aluminum for hiding bad facia that they could not afford to replace. Since however I've found color matched galvanized nails... but in a high moisture area this trick would be great inexpensive solution
That was fasten nating. I was riveted to my chair, watching you hammer home this great tip. Memories of good times and good friends are the spice of life. Building things by hand infuses the object with those memories and gives them value beyond the sum of their parts. Great video! Brent
You totally nailed... err... riveted it here, Brent! Thanks for commenting. Ohh, those stories... no end to 'em, right? Have a great day, whereever in the world you find yourself today... Best, Matt
Digiconsoo- The French would say that you have a "bon mot" (literally translated as a "good mouth"), which colloquially means that you're witty with words. I had a bon mot in High School French class. It helped me achieve the grade of "F".
Yes... and no, Adam. In an installation where pop rivets are being used for other connections a nail would look 'out of place' IMHO... but then again there's lots of times when that wouldn't matter so much. Best, Matt
I know, I am curious how this is much better than a finish nail and a matching washer? It LOOKS neat and is certainly a neat on-the-site solution when you don't have the 'right' stuff (not that this is wrong, if it works). Still, it's something I will keep in mind for a few projects.
@@DieCastoms where would you find a coated finish nail and 'matching washer'? Keep in mind that matching washer head screws WERE on site and I chose this as 'the 'right' stuff' on purpose, not as a inferior substitute from lack of preparation, hence the disclaimer 'it's not a universal solution'. Slip it into your bag of tricks for 'someday'? Best, Matt
That is a good finish. It looks better than nail heads and washers sticking out. Think I'd seat the sill onto some caulking or construction adhesive just to make sure thise little pins don't give way in the wind. Yes, another brilliant way to finish sills. Cheers Matt ☺
Agreed, @@johnmontague69 ... the sill caps got sealed to the glass with bronze silicone to assure their integrity but a 'bed' of caulk underneath the flashing wasn't necessary for this installation because, despite being old and checked, the sills are incredibly dense and held the rivet pins with tenacity! Your mention of additional adhesive tells me you've been around enough variety in on site conditions to know when extra measures are necessary and have the sense to apply them so thanks for adding your comment for benefit of other viewers. Best, Matt
Thanks Matt for passing this trick on. I can see a lot of applications for this procedure. Considering your sheet metal expert has been using this method for years is convincing.
I really enjoy your videos...in the beautiful Paha Sapa of South Dakota. The sheriff of Pennington county is an old friend of mine. I live and work in Texas now. I learn a lot from you. Keep up the great work and congratulations on your new home and shop.
New shop, eh? Seems to be a trend lately... hope it's all you want/expect it to be Neal! Coincidence is amazing sometimes, right? Most of the fasteners the guys used on this house were screw-type for holding power in wind... especially in that canyon, but there's a few details like these sills where the reverse rivets were exactly the right 'touch'. Best, Matt
Considering you're in-between shops, thanks for taking the time to post this little nugget. Nice story at the end too. I made a couple of chopping boards from and old Oak framed sofa which belonged to my mother-in-law. Each time we use them we'll be reminded of our times together.
Wow! What an awesome idea! I install a ton of ceiling grid & tile and use pop rivets all the time. Never thought about installing them reverse into wood. Thanks for sharing!!
Matt, thanks for the tip, although I'm unlikely to use it here in South Africa, but, really enjoyed your relaying of some of your memories and Howard - no better way to honor a friendship and person! Blessing upon you sir!
Thanks for the sub Travis... it's tough enough for me to provide no-nonsense videos because that nonsense stuff takes abilities I don't have😯😃😎 Best, Matt
Hello! Love your channel and watch it often. PLEASE NOTE: Wrapping window sills with aluminum ACCELERATES decomposition of the wood. Im a contractor in historic St.Charles MO (Where Lewis & Clarke crossed the MO river). I regularly work on 150 yr old homes, the majority of exterior wood damage that I repair is caused aluminum wrapping!!!! The wood is completely disintegrated under the aluminum. Water gets in and can't escape. Best method is treat wood with breathable sealant and use a drip edge type flashing to direct water away, but allows it to breathe and dry. Thanks again, love your channel.
Your note of caution is well taken Tim... I too see plenty of degradation of wood wrapped with aluminum... particularly on aluminum and vinyl siding jobs where improper sealing and not accounting for water draining indeed accelerate rot. It's not aluminum in particular that speeds up rot but the other factors you mention. These sills in this instance will definitely extend their life even though 'wrapping' is often not the best practice for doing so. Best, Matt
This is a perfect solution to a project I am working on now. I am adding a 6" roll flashing border on a wall, to give it the industrial look. I was looking for fasteners that would give that same industrial look without protruding and catching on passerby. I'll use adhesive and reverse rivets and I bet it will look great. Thanks!
MJC Peters, this does sound like a great solution for your project. If there's potential for clothes catching you might want/need to hit the rivet heads with a smooth file after driving in case there's any little burrs to snag stuff... but in any case this will be far better than hex head bolts or regular flat headed nails... Good luck! Best, Matt
I'm making an anti theft mailbox using a 12 X 24 round air duct and a PT 1 X 6 and thought I could use a pop rivet to attach the sheet metal but didn't know how without splitting the wood. Now I know to use a reverse pop rivet which will look much better then truss screws I had planned on using. Thanks 👍
Great tip for using an alternative to normal ordinary construction, as a remodeler your constantly outside the box. Your video editing is getting better... showing what you are talking about vs talking into the camera helps with the percieved quality of the video. As someone else already commented a drone would get those awkward shots. Enjoying the channel.
Thanks Chris... I'd love to incorporate a drone into videos at some point... it would be sooner than later if it came with a qualified drone pilot and videographer though that's for sure! Best, Matt
Pure genius! I just used some rivets the standard way to fix my daighters broken school id. badge after i found that super glue would not bond to the plastic. I made a small tab from sheet metal and folded it in half drilled 3 holes, two for the tiny rivets and 1 for the lanyard. I hammered them flat for a cleaner look once complete. She didnt know what rivets were, but after I explained they hold airplanes together, she appreciated the effort. This just goes to show, you can always solve simple problems if you use your best tool, not that tool, the other one!!!
I think it was a good memory about Howard. I have one to tell you about an older retired gentlemen who lives next door to me who was in early stages of dementia. When we bought our house we decided to put in a fence. We had a surveyor come out to verify the property lines. There was some question about the lines but we figured we could work it out with our neighbor. We ask him to come over and speak with us about it. He was an radio tower engineer, retired. He told us where he thought the line was. We told him where we were going to put the fence and he agreed that this was okay. Some years later as his dementia kicked in a little harder he brought a surveyor in that was about 85 years old and could barely get around. The next thing we know a nail had been hammered into our fence with about an inch of it sticking out above the wood. We ask him about it and he told us we needed to move our 75 ft over about 1 foot. We reminded him about our conversation more than 10 years ago. He was perplexed a bit but seemed to accept it and that was the last we heard about it. He was a real nice guy and I was sad to see that a few years later he went to an alzheimer unit. I thought it so funny that he would say to us that our fence was a foot over the property line after 10 years without a word. Needless to say we didn't have to move it but we sure hope his wife doesn't come out and put a nail in our fence anytime soon. This story may not be as funny as your friend talking about his hands not working right to hold a shovel to dig but it was funny to me. So the moral of the story is make sure your fence is well within your property line. Have a great day and I hope this added to it.
Guess it's true what they say about strong fences making good neighbors then? Glad you didn't get into a survey war with your neighbor though... hate to resort to 'lawyers guns and money' over such trivial issues... Thanks for your anecdote and story George! Best, Matt
Hey billeybop, great to see your comment here! Got more videos for you in the pipeline and am getting excited about producing and uploading them... hope all's well with you these days... Best, Matt
I. *Love*. It! Matt, maybe a tool tip video on the shop-made vise grip brake? How cool that Howard's memory lives on in the Curly Maple of your toolbox. What a wonderful homage to your mentor.
So many of the things I just take for granted in shop and toolbox would make great fodder for videos John... it takes a comment from someone like you to call attention to them! I'll keep those vise-grips in mind going forward as I hope to start doing some metalwork/welding build videos one of these days. The one that generates the most interest is for the outfeed roller stands so I'd likely tackle that first. Thanks for all your comments and observations here... your perspective really helps sense direction for future work and I appreciate it. Best, Matt
Good question Shadow Hunter... I like the look of the rivet head for this application better than a 'flashing nail' but that's just me. These sill caps need only minimal fastener holding power to stay in place so the less-grippy smooth rivet pin was more than adequate. For other flashing applications a nail or screw would be needed to hold things in place long term. Best, Matt
Thanks Vicki... it IS easy and handy to have in your bag of tricks for who knows what and when! Sorry I didn't do an up close shot of the vise grips. I made them as a heavy duty upgrade of these that are available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/B0000TFGFU/?ref=idea_lv_dp_ov_d They're smaller but just might get it done for your needs? Best, Matt
Cool Johnny... I'll let Sam know next time I see him... I asked him specifically if he was OK with me doing a video to show 'his' idea and picture of his truck. He was cool with it but I'm not sure he knew what to expect from the amount of traffic his little tip would generate. Oh... and you're welcome! Best, Matt
Thats awesome! Tks for the share! Paint won't stick to silicone though in my experience, well standard latex won't, rattle can might, can't think of the right word ATM
You're right Dirt Diver... pretty much nothing sticks to silicone... unless it's the paintable type. I use alcohol in the video to clean it up but a quick wipe with acetone or lacquer thinner might be necessary too to get something to stick. Best, Matt
Oh my God. When I first subscribed to your channel I had no idea how your teaching, and in this case the story of Howard, would be so enriching to my knowledge base and skillset. Thank you so much Matthew.
Thanks for subscribing to NLC Craig... much appreciated. Glad to know you've not regretted 'signing up'... every single sub contributes to how the Channel is featured which helps it grow. I do believe the best is yet to come...
Thanks Ermanno... Looks like Elk country... but isn't. Mostly 'mulies' or black tailed deer... I did have a good sized mountain lion bound across the road right in front of me late on a winter's day last year though... THAT will make the hair stand up on your neck! Best, Matt
Mostly cosmetic, Richard, but a bit of convenience at times too. Someone who does this all day every day would likely have proprietary fasteners for every application but I really like the quick, clean effectiveness of this method for this application. Best, Matt
Not sure what you've 'seen before but never knew how they did it' Daniel but want to make sure you know that this isn't the standard use for pop rivets which are normally used for fastening sheetmetal to sheetmetal requiring a pop rivet 'gun' to do so. Ignore this if I read more into your comment than intended, OK? Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry, Thanks for the note. Yes, I've seen rivets used this way (to secure metal flashing to wood). My family did all kinds of construction and remodeling and as a kid, I was dragged around as free labor. Most of my woodworking skills came from trial and error and improved by watching videos like yours. So Thanks!
ES, I agree with you. My first preference would be the 1" trim nails made specifically for flashing; provides a 1-piece head vs a 2-piece head. I'd get the same dimpling (if I wanted)
You're welcome Daniel... are you as surprised as I am by some of the comments by viewers who totally miss the point of this simple but useful trick?! Best, Matt
Funny you put this up today. I actually have the tin off the side of one of my buildings trying to figure out how to fix a bad leak around a replacement style window. The water was just running inside the building. A local handyman put it in 4 years ago or so and the massive amounts of caulk he used have finally failed. I found videos on how to instal the nail flange windows in tin, but none on replacement style windows. I'm going to need to make the opening a bit larger and make a sill. As it is it's all 2x4's that stick past the sheathing 1/2 inch or so. No slope on the bottom and no room around the window frame for adjustment or even insulation. My other option is to get a new sheet of tin and cover the window and forget I ever had one there...
Ya, there's a LOT of ways to do sheetmetal wrong, that's for certain nevermindthebullocks! This trick might come in handy as you re-work things but sounds like you might need bigger guns and more ammo to make things right for your window challenge... good luck! Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry I have put in one exterior door. But it has a porch over it and catches no rain. I think I could handle a flange style window with the housewrap and flashing tape. On this one there is none of that. I think I will use some plastic for a ways around the window and down to the ground under it and use flashing tape. This one the only thing I can think is copy the door design and trim out. I will run plastic and flashing tape around and under the window so if it does leak it just runs to the ground behind the tin. Instead of inside my wall and insulation like it currently is.
@@nevermindthebull0cks do what you can to keep water from getting behind anything and, if there's any chance for it to get in, there should be a flashing to get it out asap! Without actually being able to see your installation details I don't have any other advice in particular. In general a drip cap on top and good sealant along sides and bottom will get the job done but metal skinned buildings introduce some complications... but you already know that. Best, Matt
Wow could I have used this tip sooner just have to consider sheer force on certain applications, wonderful tip will be adding this tip to my get out of s**t bag. From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
I know exactly what you're saying Tinkermouse... when I think of all the times this would have been the perfect solution it's almost embarrassing to admit I got 'schooled' by Sam who's just over half my age... guess it goes to show we (should) never stop being willing to learn! Best, Matt
Thanks for sayin' Clem... I only wish I could claim brilliance for thinking of it instead of just the motivation to share some one else's genius.😏😁😎 Best, Matt
Thanks Bobby... as you can tell I'm itchin' to get back to serious carpentry videos but figure something is better than nothing at this point and so appreciate your comment! Best, Matt
Good info. I'm rehabing an old single wide mobile and and that'll be another option for fastening. Thanks for adding the memories at the end of the video! 👍
We have theese hardened "flashing" nails in Norway we use, with different colors. Same principle, but they are serrated and holds very good. Since its hardened we dont have to predrill, but they are short enough and you need a proper wack to get them in. I call them blue thumb nails.
I saw that, just wanted to share how we do it here. In your case that caulking and few screw to those upright bends on each end would be enough for sure, no need to pierce that actual sill.
Thanks tohdubg, glad you like the videos! A word of caution: the new shop is no where near as impressive in appearance as certain well known PBS shops so I hope you'll not be disappointed. It will be extremely versatile and functional though... I wouldn't have it any other way... so I think it will be meaningful to viewers like you though. Best, Matt
Gotta be careful with 'them funny hands' Tom... it's just as easy to slap myself upside the head as pat myself on the back with 'em😲😂😎 Thanks for commenting on this one! Best, Matt
Does the blind side of the rivet deform enough to provide holding power in case of wood expansion/contraction? You ever do a cutaway on your wood sample to see what the rivet looks like?
Since the rivet is aluminum and the shaft is as well, you might want to take those pliers, put then end of the shaft (the part that penetrates the wood) and squeeze the pliers to create a tooth on the shaft so that when you drive it into the wood, it acts like a hook to hold better. Kind of like a ring nail.
Also, your "dribletts" tin reminded me of the exact set that I once owned. Replaced them with quick connect bits from Milwaukee when I purchased a Black+Decker Matrix combo that included both drill and driver "heads". I once took golf lessons using my father's trusty dusty sticks. First comment out of my instructor's mouth: "Ah, bag of ancient Chinese wisdom!" Cracked me up and I'll never forget it. As these are obviously well-seasoned bits, perhaps a short tool tip video on how a Master Carpenter keeps his bits sharp?
John, a video showing how I keep bits sharp would consist entirely of a demonstration of the Drill Doctor machine I've used for years. Any model is a good value since they can easily pay for themselves in faster drilling and saved bits. This is the model I have: www.amazon.com/dp/B000BKUY1O/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B000BKUY1O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f52e26da-1287-4616-824b-efc564ff75a4&pf_rd_r=5W3X1RCS4VBYXN9C42NP&pd_rd_wg=eSYp0&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=U5r5J&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=7ed75962-db32-11e8-943e-3f50e486d3b4 but I'm pretty sure any model is a good investment based on anticipated use. Best, Matt
Big Boom Camera! you need to get yourself a drone! dji mavic with the zoom to really get the detail, some gnarly branches coming off those pines though! might want to practice in a field, enjoying the videos, new subscriber, keep em coming!
Notice I didn't use the word 'hack' in the video or title? Got WAY too much grief for simply using that buzzword in the video I did about using construction screws for fastening wood to concrete and learned my lesson... sort of. 😲 Best, Matt
Or just a roofing nail.
Oh, so you're THAT guy! No next level workmanship from you then? 🤨
I thought that too but the esthetic is not the same.
Pounding the pin in expands the rivet. The pin is now driven into new wood like a finish nail, and the head has expanded against the drilled wood. Having both these, along with the consistent appearance, makes it more than a nail. I like it!
For a woodsy application like that, try natured alcohol (instead of denatured)
I grew up in a sheet metal shop and learned from the best of the old timers but I have never seen that trick before.... Thanks I look forward to making use of that idea some day.
Cool of you mentioning Howard - we can only hope that folks will remember us and speak highly of us . That's the measure of a good person - as is speaking well of a good man .
Cheers friend ...
Thanks... good folks like Howard live on in our memories even though their passing leave a hole in our hearts. Best, Matt
Great video, I’ve used pop rivets before to attach sheet metal to a timber garage door, but I never thought to reverse the pin in the rivet. Another watch and learn moment thank you
Sounds like an ideal application Peter... you're certainly welcome
one of the best and cleanest ways I've ever seen attaching metal to Wood. tell that sheet metal guy that's one of the best techniques I've seen in a good minute hats off.
What works even better is to install a hook strip first. A piece of metal formed to the same profile as the outside cap that is nailed or screwed to the existing sill. The “kinked” front of the hookstrip slips into a hem that is formed on the outside piece . This method prevents high winds from blowing it off. Worked for me for 40 years as a union architectural sheet metal worker.
Awesome tip Matt, and the story at the end is priceless. We all have that one person that showed compassion and knowledge. Thx for sharing your memories of Howard.
Having that 'one person' really makes for a rich life, doesn't it? Thanks for commenting on Howard's memory... its quite meaningful in these times of social media and lightning fast changes. Best, Matt
Thanks!
Hey Oliver... thank you for the Super Thanks gift! It's extra special because I just enabled this feature a couple days ago and you're the very first to express your thanks by using it... much appreciated! Best, Matt
Truly a great way to protect window sills from rotting. Perfect timing to me. Thank you for sharing.
Man I wish I New that trick 20 or 30 years ago. So many jobs I could have used that on, but I will remember it. Thanks Matt.
I'm with you there, Paul... biggest challenge now is in not forgetting about it for next time, right? Best, Matt
Wow!
I've been in most all the construction trades my whole working life 36 yrs and I've never stop learning. Thanks for learnin me somethin !
I agree Tony... any day I have where I can say "I learnt sumpthin' new" is a good one! 😂😎 Best, Matt
This is perfect idea for an installation for my deck. I had a shed installed underneath my deck and the installers put slanted boards underneath the corrugated aluminum roof to divert the water away from the wooden walls. It was not a successful application as the water runs onto the wood anyway. So now I have to deal with keeping the wood from rotting on my own. I bought some rolled sheet metal flashing(1 foot wide or so) from home depot(color matched to my stain) and I am going to extend it out from the slanted wood. I will use the reverse riveting method to attach the sheet metal so water will not hit my wooden shed wall. Count me as one person you helped. Thank you for your kindness in sharing this with me. I will probably add a gutter as well.
That's cool, George! Be sure to goop 'em up well with silicone anywhere with constant exposure to water because the reverse rivet pins are relatively small and won't hold well in damp wood or heavy loads. No shame in using color matched washer head screws where necessary... Best, Matt
Matt,
Thanks for additional insight, bar top is alum. ground metal intricate design/masked foreground w/candy background. Outside edge & joints will get rivet application
SAWHEEET!! Thanks for sharing Bi traeger... Best, Matt
That's way useful !!!
I've looked for a way to attach my bent aluminum for hiding bad facia that they could not afford to replace. Since however I've found color matched galvanized nails... but in a high moisture area this trick would be great inexpensive solution
In all my years I have never seen this. Simply brilliant.
That was fasten nating.
I was riveted to my chair, watching you hammer home this great tip.
Memories of good times and good friends are the spice of life. Building things by hand infuses the object with those memories and gives them value beyond the sum of their parts.
Great video!
Brent
You totally nailed... err... riveted it here, Brent! Thanks for commenting. Ohh, those stories... no end to 'em, right? Have a great day, whereever in the world you find yourself today... Best, Matt
@doc hall No kidding, right? That Brent's a tough act to beat IMHO! Best, Matt
Digiconsoo-
The French would say that you have a "bon mot" (literally translated as a "good mouth"), which colloquially means that you're witty with words.
I had a bon mot in High School French class. It helped me achieve the grade of "F".
* slow clapping...
DigiConSoo, did that just POP into your head? A driblit SILLy, I'd say.
I've seen this done, after the work. It's nice to see how it was done. Thanks.
Wait a minute... that's a nail.
Yes... and no, Adam. In an installation where pop rivets are being used for other connections a nail would look 'out of place' IMHO... but then again there's lots of times when that wouldn't matter so much. Best, Matt
I know, I am curious how this is much better than a finish nail and a matching washer? It LOOKS neat and is certainly a neat on-the-site solution when you don't have the 'right' stuff (not that this is wrong, if it works).
Still, it's something I will keep in mind for a few projects.
@@DieCastoms where would you find a coated finish nail and 'matching washer'? Keep in mind that matching washer head screws WERE on site and I chose this as 'the 'right' stuff' on purpose, not as a inferior substitute from lack of preparation, hence the disclaimer 'it's not a universal solution'. Slip it into your bag of tricks for 'someday'? Best, Matt
That is a good finish.
It looks better than nail heads and washers sticking out.
Think I'd seat the sill onto some caulking or construction adhesive just to make sure thise little pins don't give way in the wind.
Yes, another brilliant way to finish sills.
Cheers Matt ☺
Agreed, @@johnmontague69 ... the sill caps got sealed to the glass with bronze silicone to assure their integrity but a 'bed' of caulk underneath the flashing wasn't necessary for this installation because, despite being old and checked, the sills are incredibly dense and held the rivet pins with tenacity! Your mention of additional adhesive tells me you've been around enough variety in on site conditions to know when extra measures are necessary and have the sense to apply them so thanks for adding your comment for benefit of other viewers. Best, Matt
Thanks Matt for passing this trick on. I can see a lot of applications for this procedure. Considering your sheet metal expert has been using this method for years is convincing.
I really enjoy your videos...in the beautiful Paha Sapa of South Dakota. The sheriff of Pennington county is an old friend of mine. I live and work in Texas now. I learn a lot from you. Keep up the great work and congratulations on your new home and shop.
Thanks RWM... glad you like the videos. Thanks for the comment, especially since you know of our little corner of the world... Best, Matt
I just finished a standing seam roof on my new shop, so did a zillion rivets, but this would sure be useful to know. Thanks for sharing!
New shop, eh? Seems to be a trend lately... hope it's all you want/expect it to be Neal! Coincidence is amazing sometimes, right? Most of the fasteners the guys used on this house were screw-type for holding power in wind... especially in that canyon, but there's a few details like these sills where the reverse rivets were exactly the right 'touch'. Best, Matt
Fantastic reverse rivet trick! Wilson's are great people to have around and mentor from.
A world without Wilsons would be lacking for sure, Brady... thanks for your comment. Best, Matt
Considering you're in-between shops, thanks for taking the time to post this little nugget. Nice story at the end too. I made a couple of chopping boards from and old Oak framed sofa which belonged to my mother-in-law. Each time we use them we'll be reminded of our times together.
Appreciate the 'rich' anecdote of re-purposed wood bish2t... glad to know you too value such a 'legacy' for worthwhile things. Best, Matt
Wow! What an awesome idea! I install a ton of ceiling grid & tile and use pop rivets all the time. Never thought about installing them reverse into wood. Thanks for sharing!!
Matt, thanks for the tip, although I'm unlikely to use it here in South Africa, but, really enjoyed your relaying of some of your memories and Howard - no better way to honor a friendship and person! Blessing upon you sir!
So cool, new subscriber here. I like your no nonsense approach to your videos.
Thanks for the sub Travis... it's tough enough for me to provide no-nonsense videos because that nonsense stuff takes abilities I don't have😯😃😎
Best, Matt
Good tip I’ve got some facia coming away I’m going to try it on with white aluminum rivets thx 2 the sheet metal guru
This should work even better on light aluminum fascia and associated trims Jeff... hope it gets you a better job faster! Best, Matt
Hello! Love your channel and watch it often. PLEASE NOTE: Wrapping window sills with aluminum ACCELERATES decomposition of the wood. Im a contractor in historic St.Charles MO (Where Lewis & Clarke crossed the MO river). I regularly work
on 150 yr old homes, the majority of exterior wood damage that I repair is caused aluminum wrapping!!!! The wood is completely disintegrated under the aluminum. Water gets in and can't escape.
Best method is treat wood with breathable sealant and use a drip edge type flashing to direct water away, but allows it to breathe and dry. Thanks again, love your channel.
Your note of caution is well taken Tim... I too see plenty of degradation of wood wrapped with aluminum... particularly on aluminum and vinyl siding jobs where improper sealing and not accounting for water draining indeed accelerate rot. It's not aluminum in particular that speeds up rot but the other factors you mention. These sills in this instance will definitely extend their life even though 'wrapping' is often not the best practice for doing so. Best, Matt
What is "breathable sealant"?
Superb idea. I doubt if I will ever utilize it but now I can if needed.
It's one of those things you hope you still remember when the time comes to use it, right? Best, Matt
Right!
This is a perfect solution to a project I am working on now. I am adding a 6" roll flashing border on a wall, to give it the industrial look. I was looking for fasteners that would give that same industrial look without protruding and catching on passerby. I'll use adhesive and reverse rivets and I bet it will look great. Thanks!
MJC Peters, this does sound like a great solution for your project. If there's potential for clothes catching you might want/need to hit the rivet heads with a smooth file after driving in case there's any little burrs to snag stuff... but in any case this will be far better than hex head bolts or regular flat headed nails... Good luck! Best, Matt
What?? If I hadn't seen this, I wouldn't ever believe this was even possible. Genius! Thanks for sharing.
Great Video I have run across this a time or two in my 40+ years of carpentry but I had
forgotten about it thanks
I'm making an anti theft mailbox using a 12 X 24 round air duct and a PT 1 X 6 and thought I could use a pop rivet to attach the sheet metal but didn't know how without splitting the wood. Now I know to use a reverse pop rivet which will look much better then truss screws I had planned on using. Thanks 👍
Loved the tip. I think we all had a Howard in our lives and they are someone we think of often. I know it always brings a smile to my day when I do.
That is such a brilliant idea, I bet it glows in the dark!
very clever! Will help with my 30 year old shed. Thanks for sharing.
I’m gonna use this for the metal trim for some drawers I just built for my work van. Awesome idea! Thanks
Great tip for using an alternative to normal ordinary construction, as a remodeler your constantly outside the box.
Your video editing is getting better... showing what you are talking about vs talking into the camera helps with the percieved quality of the video.
As someone else already commented a drone would get those awkward shots.
Enjoying the channel.
Thanks Chris... I'd love to incorporate a drone into videos at some point... it would be sooner than later if it came with a qualified drone pilot and videographer though that's for sure! Best, Matt
That reverse rivet is a tremendous idea, I'll be using that for sure. Never disappointed in your videos.
Pure genius! I just used some rivets the standard way to fix my daighters broken school id. badge after i found that super glue would not bond to the plastic. I made a small tab from sheet metal and folded it in half drilled 3 holes, two for the tiny rivets and 1 for the lanyard. I hammered them flat for a cleaner look once complete. She didnt know what rivets were, but after I explained they hold airplanes together, she appreciated the effort. This just goes to show, you can always solve simple problems if you use your best tool, not that tool, the other one!!!
I think it was a good memory about Howard. I have one to tell you about an older retired gentlemen who lives next door to me who was in early stages of dementia. When we bought our house we decided to put in a fence. We had a surveyor come out to verify the property lines. There was some question about the lines but we figured we could work it out with our neighbor. We ask him to come over and speak with us about it. He was an radio tower engineer, retired. He told us where he thought the line was. We told him where we were going to put the fence and he agreed that this was okay. Some years later as his dementia kicked in a little harder he brought a surveyor in that was about 85 years old and could barely get around. The next thing we know a nail had been hammered into our fence with about an inch of it sticking out above the wood. We ask him about it and he told us we needed to move our 75 ft over about 1 foot. We reminded him about our conversation more than 10 years ago. He was perplexed a bit but seemed to accept it and that was the last we heard about it. He was a real nice guy and I was sad to see that a few years later he went to an alzheimer unit. I thought it so funny that he would say to us that our fence was a foot over the property line after 10 years without a word. Needless to say we didn't have to move it but we sure hope his wife doesn't come out and put a nail in our fence anytime soon. This story may not be as funny as your friend talking about his hands not working right to hold a shovel to dig but it was funny to me. So the moral of the story is make sure your fence is well within your property line. Have a great day and I hope this added to it.
Guess it's true what they say about strong fences making good neighbors then? Glad you didn't get into a survey war with your neighbor though... hate to resort to 'lawyers guns and money' over such trivial issues... Thanks for your anecdote and story George! Best, Matt
Thanks for the helpful tip! I thank all the" Howards" for motivating us. Good to hear from you.
Hey billeybop, great to see your comment here! Got more videos for you in the pipeline and am getting excited about producing and uploading them... hope all's well with you these days... Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry We are very patient fans so take your time.
I. *Love*. It!
Matt, maybe a tool tip video on the shop-made vise grip brake?
How cool that Howard's memory lives on in the Curly Maple of your toolbox. What a wonderful homage to your mentor.
So many of the things I just take for granted in shop and toolbox would make great fodder for videos John... it takes a comment from someone like you to call attention to them! I'll keep those vise-grips in mind going forward as I hope to start doing some metalwork/welding build videos one of these days. The one that generates the most interest is for the outfeed roller stands so I'd likely tackle that first.
Thanks for all your comments and observations here... your perspective really helps sense direction for future work and I appreciate it. Best, Matt
Any reason why you wouldn't use flashing nails? Seems like they would hold better than a smooth rivet pin.
Good question Shadow Hunter... I like the look of the rivet head for this application better than a 'flashing nail' but that's just me. These sill caps need only minimal fastener holding power to stay in place so the less-grippy smooth rivet pin was more than adequate. For other flashing applications a nail or screw would be needed to hold things in place long term. Best, Matt
Great tip, and such an easy fix! Would love to see the custom vise grips up close. Those would be perfect for some applications I do in my shop.
Thanks Vicki... it IS easy and handy to have in your bag of tricks for who knows what and when! Sorry I didn't do an up close shot of the vise grips. I made them as a heavy duty upgrade of these that are available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/B0000TFGFU/?ref=idea_lv_dp_ov_d They're smaller but just might get it done for your needs? Best, Matt
Nice trick, like it. Thanks Matt and Sam.
Cool Johnny... I'll let Sam know next time I see him... I asked him specifically if he was OK with me doing a video to show 'his' idea and picture of his truck. He was cool with it but I'm not sure he knew what to expect from the amount of traffic his little tip would generate. Oh... and you're welcome! Best, Matt
Thanks! Great tip. I look forward to using it soon.
Thanks HHP! Best, Matt
Thats awesome! Tks for the share! Paint won't stick to silicone though in my experience, well standard latex won't, rattle can might, can't think of the right word ATM
You're right Dirt Diver... pretty much nothing sticks to silicone... unless it's the paintable type. I use alcohol in the video to clean it up but a quick wipe with acetone or lacquer thinner might be necessary too to get something to stick. Best, Matt
Oh my God. When I first subscribed to your channel I had no idea how your teaching, and in this case the story of Howard, would be so enriching to my knowledge base and skillset. Thank you so much Matthew.
Thanks for subscribing to NLC Craig... much appreciated. Glad to know you've not regretted 'signing up'... every single sub contributes to how the Channel is featured which helps it grow. I do believe the best is yet to come...
So simple yet so useful. I love the scenery, looks like Elk country.
Thanks Ermanno... Looks like Elk country... but isn't. Mostly 'mulies' or black tailed deer... I did have a good sized mountain lion bound across the road right in front of me late on a winter's day last year though... THAT will make the hair stand up on your neck! Best, Matt
Cool tip! Please show more of this house and share it's location. Thanks!
Master carpenter working with master metal bender - master tips! Thanks Matt!
great trick. what is the advantage over a nail? Cosmetic?
Mostly cosmetic, Richard, but a bit of convenience at times too. Someone who does this all day every day would likely have proprietary fasteners for every application but I really like the quick, clean effectiveness of this method for this application. Best, Matt
The RUclips tree of knowledge bears fruit again! That is great. Thanks for sharing.
wow, i use rivets all the time never thought of that great tip
Same here... I think you'll find it slick and handy to have in your bag of DIY Dad tricks! 😁😎 Best, Matt
Well I'll be! I've seen these before but never knew how they did it. Now I do! Awesome tip! Thanks!
Not sure what you've 'seen before but never knew how they did it' Daniel but want to make sure you know that this isn't the standard use for pop rivets which are normally used for fastening sheetmetal to sheetmetal requiring a pop rivet 'gun' to do so. Ignore this if I read more into your comment than intended, OK? Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry, Thanks for the note. Yes, I've seen rivets used this way (to secure metal flashing to wood). My family did all kinds of construction and remodeling and as a kid, I was dragged around as free labor. Most of my woodworking skills came from trial and error and improved by watching videos like yours. So Thanks!
Simplicity indeed! Thanks for passing along Matt. Great tip.
You're most welcome Duncan... just payin' it forward! Best, Matt
Seems like a great trick.....but what advantage does it have over a similar sized common nail?
Just a little bit in the looks department IMHO... not a bad idea to keep in mind for certain little detail applications though, right? Best, Matt
ES, I agree with you. My first preference would be the 1" trim nails made specifically for flashing; provides a 1-piece head vs a 2-piece head. I'd get the same dimpling (if I wanted)
Awesome trick ! Thanks !
You're welcome Daniel... are you as surprised as I am by some of the comments by viewers who totally miss the point of this simple but useful trick?! Best, Matt
This tip is FABULOUS! Thank you so much for sharing it!!
That's the best tip I've learned in months. Thanks!
Thanks Bob... it's pretty unique and one of the better one's I've seen in awhile too! You're welcome too... Best, Matt
This is some valuable tip you may never find in any book or manual. Thanx
The only place you find this sort of thing is in the course study materials at the School of Hard Knocks, right? Best, Matt
Thanks for sharing that memory, it hit me in the feels
"hit me in the feels"... I like that one. Haven't heard it before but know 'zactly what you mean! Best, Matt
Funny you put this up today.
I actually have the tin off the side of one of my buildings trying to figure out how to fix a bad leak around a replacement style window.
The water was just running inside the building.
A local handyman put it in 4 years ago or so and the massive amounts of caulk he used have finally failed. I found videos on how to
instal the nail flange windows in tin, but none on replacement style windows.
I'm going to need to make the opening a bit larger and make a sill. As it is it's all 2x4's that stick past the sheathing 1/2 inch or so. No slope on the bottom and no room around the window frame for adjustment or even insulation.
My other option is to get a new sheet of tin and cover the window and forget I ever had one there...
Ya, there's a LOT of ways to do sheetmetal wrong, that's for certain nevermindthebullocks! This trick might come in handy as you re-work things but sounds like you might need bigger guns and more ammo to make things right for your window challenge... good luck! Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry I have put in one exterior door. But it has a porch over it and catches no rain.
I think I could handle a flange style window with the housewrap and flashing tape. On this one there is none of that.
I think I will use some plastic for a ways around the window and down to the ground under it and use flashing tape.
This one the only thing I can think is copy the door design and trim out. I will run plastic and flashing tape around and under the window so if it does leak it just runs to the ground behind the tin. Instead of inside my wall and insulation like it currently is.
@@nevermindthebull0cks do what you can to keep water from getting behind anything and, if there's any chance for it to get in, there should be a flashing to get it out asap! Without actually being able to see your installation details I don't have any other advice in particular. In general a drip cap on top and good sealant along sides and bottom will get the job done but metal skinned buildings introduce some complications... but you already know that. Best, Matt
That’s given me a great idea for some urban photography frames, thank you. I also liked the story at the end.
Cool, Mark... thanks for commenting! Best, Matt
Thanks, haven’t seen that before. It EAs in the nick of time. I’m installing a little roof over a door now 👍
I will be doing a similar project soon and this looks like the perfect solution. Thanks for the tip!
Hope it works as well on your project as it did on this one bdcopper! Good luck! Best, Matt
Thanks. Fantastic new tip as always.
You're welcome Rollo! Best, Matt
Wow could I have used this tip sooner just have to consider sheer force on certain applications, wonderful tip will be adding this
tip to my get out of s**t bag.
From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
I know exactly what you're saying Tinkermouse... when I think of all the times this would have been the perfect solution it's almost embarrassing to admit I got 'schooled' by Sam who's just over half my age... guess it goes to show we (should) never stop being willing to learn! Best, Matt
Thanks for the trick. Enjoyed the story too. Take care and God bless.
Great trick. I hope I remember it when the need arises. Thanks.
That memory thing is an issue more often than a guy would like to admit, right Zale? Best, Matt
This is brilliant. Thanks
Thanks for sayin' Clem... I only wish I could claim brilliance for thinking of it instead of just the motivation to share some one else's genius.😏😁😎 Best, Matt
Awesome trick. Glad to see a video from you. I thought it was going to be a lot longer before I started seeing your vids after your move.
Thanks Bobby... as you can tell I'm itchin' to get back to serious carpentry videos but figure something is better than nothing at this point and so appreciate your comment! Best, Matt
My search for a solution ends with the video. Thank you
COOL! I knew there must be a way to do this to wood. There are anchors for cement that are the very same principle.
So quick and easy, nice one. All the best Graham 🇬🇧🇬🇧
That's the beauty of it, right? Best, Matt
I'm a big fan of rivets and this was another good tip for certain situations.
This will be one more technique in my kills toolbox, thanks.
I am rebuilding my front porch and it has a metal roof over wood - Thanks, this is VERY timely!!
Good info. I'm rehabing an old single wide mobile and and that'll be another option for fastening. Thanks for adding the memories at the end of the video! 👍
You're welcome Reddirt... memories and all! 😉😎
We have theese hardened "flashing" nails in Norway we use, with different colors.
Same principle, but they are serrated and holds very good.
Since its hardened we dont have to predrill, but they are short enough and you need a proper wack to get them in.
I call them blue thumb nails.
'blue thumb nails' LOL!!
We use tiny colored screws in Finland but never screw any on top sill this is typical way to do it. ruclips.net/video/fTzI9QL3TRs/видео.html
@@mr.wizeguy8995 maybe so, but in this installation it would be problematic to drive fasteners into glass 😲
I saw that, just wanted to share how we do it here.
In your case that caulking and few screw to those upright bends on each end would be enough for sure, no need to pierce that actual sill.
No no no, this is the right way to do it. (wrong nails tho) In the front;) ruclips.net/video/ROeLquPhyyA/видео.html
Another trick I will try soon- thanks for sharing this
Thanks for the great video and reverse riveting trick. Memories are wonderful, thanks for sharing.
In the big picture the memories are most meaningful, right Billy? Thanks for commenting here... Best, Matt
Great Tip! Cant wait to see your new shop! I appreciate your videos :)
Thanks tohdubg, glad you like the videos! A word of caution: the new shop is no where near as impressive in appearance as certain well known PBS shops so I hope you'll not be disappointed. It will be extremely versatile and functional though... I wouldn't have it any other way... so I think it will be meaningful to viewers like you though. Best, Matt
Everytime I wonder of something can be done, there's a RUclips video proving it can. Thank you for this vid. 🙂 subscribed.
Super great tip! Thank you!
You're welcome Jim! Best, Matt
Your nuggets and fond memories make You Tuber's love ya Matt. Pat your self on the back with them funny hands that don't work with the shovel.
Gotta be careful with 'them funny hands' Tom... it's just as easy to slap myself upside the head as pat myself on the back with 'em😲😂😎 Thanks for commenting on this one! Best, Matt
Another fantastic trick. Thank you and good luck with your new shop.
Does the blind side of the rivet deform enough to provide holding power in case of wood expansion/contraction? You ever do a cutaway on your wood sample to see what the rivet looks like?
Since the rivet is aluminum and the shaft is as well, you might want to take those pliers, put then end of the shaft (the part that penetrates the wood) and squeeze the pliers to create a tooth on the shaft so that when you drive it into the wood, it acts like a hook to hold better. Kind of like a ring nail.
Great suggestion Timothy... I like it! Thanks for watching and commenting... Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry NP, also I suppose if you had a checker face hammer, you could just give it a whack.
Beautiful area. What part of the Black Hills? Spearfish area is my favorite. Thanks for another good video.
Great trick... I've not seen that one before.
I know what you mean Greg's... just a month ago I said that very thing to Sam! Have fun with it... Best, Matt
I agree trick
Also, your "dribletts" tin reminded me of the exact set that I once owned. Replaced them with quick connect bits from Milwaukee when I purchased a Black+Decker Matrix combo that included both drill and driver "heads".
I once took golf lessons using my father's trusty dusty sticks. First comment out of my instructor's mouth: "Ah, bag of ancient Chinese wisdom!" Cracked me up and I'll never forget it.
As these are obviously well-seasoned bits, perhaps a short tool tip video on how a Master Carpenter keeps his bits sharp?
John, a video showing how I keep bits sharp would consist entirely of a demonstration of the Drill Doctor machine I've used for years. Any model is a good value since they can easily pay for themselves in faster drilling and saved bits. This is the model I have: www.amazon.com/dp/B000BKUY1O/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B000BKUY1O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f52e26da-1287-4616-824b-efc564ff75a4&pf_rd_r=5W3X1RCS4VBYXN9C42NP&pd_rd_wg=eSYp0&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=U5r5J&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=7ed75962-db32-11e8-943e-3f50e486d3b4
but I'm pretty sure any model is a good investment based on anticipated use. Best, Matt
That's Fantastic Matt! Definitely Something I really use.
Thanks !
You're welcome Joe... and your reaction is exactly mine when Sam showed this trick to me... just payin' it forward! Best, Matt
Thank you I'm going to put this in my bag of tricks
Wow. I'll be using that this week....
Cool Edward... I hope you find it as useful as I did for Unique application. Best, Matt
Really cool solution. Thanks for sharing.
Big Boom Camera! you need to get yourself a drone! dji mavic with the zoom to really get the detail, some gnarly branches coming off those pines though! might want to practice in a field, enjoying the videos, new subscriber, keep em coming!
AMAZING!! Re-invented the nail and made it more expensive in the process. There's progress for you!
Amazing! you completely missed the point and went to the effort to complain about it... that's somewhat remarkable.
Wow. Like new hacks like this. Thanks for sharing
Notice I didn't use the word 'hack' in the video or title? Got WAY too much grief for simply using that buzzword in the video I did about using construction screws for fastening wood to concrete and learned my lesson... sort of. 😲 Best, Matt