This is why metal fans HATE Cardi B
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2023
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Axl gets off the bus at LA CENTRAL start of WELCOME. He gets hassled by police. he has beefy black men trying to scam him, he has homosexuals hit on him as he slept on the streets. He wrote it from a white bread hayseed firebrand. LITTLE DUDE. And he was scared. so he called SOME of those people nasty names. THATS THE STORY I DONT CONDONE KNEW HE WAS BEING PROVOCATIVE. UNFAIR ON SLASH.. He thought he was doing WOMAN IS THE N OF THE WORLD but HES NO LENNON.
Hey Finn, I've always been a huge fan, but your research on this could've been better. Ozzy does write all his own music, and HE wrote the song as an ode to his friend Bon Scott of AC/DC who died after getting too wasted and choking on his own vomit in his car a few years prior.
Love you Finn but falsely accusing people of hating Cardi B due to her color is very sad to see. The race card is the laziest card in the book and is intellectually dishonest (typically something you’d see from some they/them green-haired nut job in Brooklyn). Rihanna and Beyoncé are both black and are beloved. People hate Cardi B because her music sucks and she admitted to committing crimes in the past when she was an exotic dancer.
6:40 I normally agree with your points but metal heads don't seem to complain about other women of colour Beyonce or Rihanna etc so I think they just hate cardi b
Petition to cancel all music
Never heard any. Never will. Not taking any chances.
I'd put my Herbie Hancock on that!
Yes
Music is gay. I approve!
Avoid the peer pressure of vibrating your ear drums with noise and / or sound.
I thought the problem with Cardi B was the robberies/rapes. I didn't know there was criticism against her for her race or sex.
That's why I don't like her. She got off scot free too
And yet, Finn (not unjustly) criticizes fans of bands like Brand New or As I Lay Dying for supporting awful people while ignoring the things that Cardi B has admitted to doing on record.
Yeah, and she and Finn BOTH make the bullshit argument that if she were a man, no one would have a problem with it. BULLSHIT. If a man drugs a woman and just takes what he wants, he's gonna get publicly nailed to a cross and thrown in prison.
Fr big L on this one. Just when I was starting grow a liking for him, he hits us with some classic awful pretentious trendy takes
@@dynamicdingus7003 He's still a great guy and phenomenal RUclipsr. I wouldn't dunk on him like this just because he probably doesn't know about Cardi's criminal history or he does know and just has one bad take. I've been subscribed for a couple years now and his content is great.
Ben Shapiro's version of WAP is superior to Cardi B's
Then you’ll love Glenn Becks rendition of pound town by sexy red
I had written the lyrics to Slayers “At Dawn They sleep” in a math class in 87 when I was in high school. Apparently I left the paper on my desk because the next day my teacher, Mrs Hoffman, had a talk with me.
She was smoking hot too so after class when she asked me to stay I was like “holy crap, it’s happening!”
Nope. Nothing like that. She was very stern with me asking if I was in a good place.
I almost, almost, said “well, I COULD be, if you know what I mean”. But i didn’t have the guts.
What a story mark
I laughed too hard to this thanks for sharing man lol 😆👏🏻✊🏻
I don’t care about Cardi B’s music or image if she wants to sell sex then go crazy, it’s been done for years and I don’t have a problem with it. However, if a male artist admitted to drugging and robbing women then their career would be over. Cardi B has openly admitted to doing that to men and essentially f all happened from it and no one really gives af about it in the mainstream. That’s kinda messed up.
yeah but if you bring it up that means you hate brown women
My issue with WAP is how many pre-teen children know and like this song. Yet this song, and others like it, are pushed on our children and it's wrong. I mean, would you let your children watch Porn Hube? I certainly hope not.
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The question is do you let your daughter listen to Slipknot talk about kidnapping a woman ands starving her in a box. Do you let her listen to Seether or Korn? All these rock artists make sexually violent music why do they get a pass? Are teen boys not allowed to listen to A7x when they talk about literal rape in scream?
@@OneMxnbrxndnice whataboutism.
@@RafitoOoO Look everyone ignores the problematic content they consume because they prefer the music.
Who was pushing it on children? If your child isn't old enough to listen to songs like that, dont give them unfettered access to the internet and change the car radio station when it comes on, like any other normal parent.
About Cardi B I don’t understand why the discourse falls always in racism or “black woman successful, not good”. It’s not that. Here’s the thing:
- BMTH - Avalanche: song about depression and how to cope with it -> Video is restricted because it’s offensive and inappropriate (now the restriction is gone, but few years ago there’s)
- Cardi B - WAP: we just see now what the song talks about and how the video is made -> no restrictions.
This is the problem: double standards.
Also how she used to rob and rape men. That's the main problem.
Can’t criticize our brave black ladies man. Dey queens brah!
The problem with the “Woman of Color” argument is that it’s an invincible one that can’t be challenged without the challenging party coming across as bigoted, due to everything being reduced to “you’re racist if you disagree.” It ignores all valid criticisms and pigeon holes the opposing view. This leads to more division, which really isn’t the goal here, is it? If you like songs like WAP and the content thereof, you should be able to enjoy it and also understand the perceived consequences of this messaging reaching the mainstream, where young kids quickly gain access. What’s also interesting is how you strawman criticisms about Cardi B to be about race, as if criticisms about hedonistic, vulgar, lazily-written lyrics or other valid criticisms are exclusive to black creators and anything that challenges it is sexist and racist. I’m sure there are criticisms from the metal community that are racist and sexist, but let’s not imply that there aren’t valid examples. Women of color are not invincible to criticism. You also list two other bands afterwards as if they contradict bigoted metal fans criticisms or have anything to do with your previous statement about cardi b being black.
Exactly and I don't think people cared about the other songs she did, the first one she had about "money moves," and she did one with Bruno Mars. I didn't see any backslash with that. Maybe the content of songs matters? Not just because she's a poc woman.
Can’t believe Finn went full fat left woke “they/them” and falsely played the race card. Thought he was sane and rational and not some MSNBC nut job
Exactly, I myself am a leftist but I criticize everything equally and it urks me when people use this argument, it's pure deflection that is only used so they don't have to engage with the points being made
My problem with Cardi B is all the shit she admitted to about how she used to drug and rob clients when she worked as a stripper. Like Finn goes on to talk about how members of NWA were glorified despite being people who did awful things, but he refuses to apply that same criticism to Cardi.
Sounds like it's finally women's time to be shitty and get popular despite it. Good for them.
Yeah I'm with Finn on this one - I don't mind all the 10 year old girls twerking and singing along to WAP on TikTok ONE BIT.
Ain't nothing wrong or concerning about that AT ALL!
#sarcasm
Gotta sing along abt sticking big things down the back of your throat bro!
It's pretty nasty when little kids sing wap.......
@@unbeatable617 these are in no way similar
I remember in the early 00's when I started really getting into darker and more "depressive" music in my adolescence my mom didn't take any issue with it because she, at the time, had the understanding and emotional intelligence to recognize how cathartic it can be and was for me. She wasn't necessarily a fan of how abrasive the delivery and music was but she'd hear the lyrics from me singing and failing to scream well and was kinda surprised but acknowledged that there are some really insghtful and powerful messages there.
6:14 I think you're way off here, Finn. Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande get just as much negative reception as Cardi B.
And if you think that it's just an anti-woman thing, let's not forget that the most hated musicians of the last several decades are probably Justin Bieber, Nickelback, and Imagine Dragons.
Honestly, I think it just comes down to a contingent of metal fans not liking anything that's insufficiently technical, too popular, or both. It's really unhelpful to assume it's because they're bigots.
I thought it was odd that he claims that song was disliked because of the race and gender of the artist, but all the other ones are disliked because of the lyrical content.
Taylor has gotten hate a lot longer than these people always for the dumbest reasons and most of the time I disagree wit his Taylor takes
Also Cardi B is a mega star who makes top 10 hits so I can understand why so many people may have thought WAP was offensive/gross/degen. If she were a club act with a cult following of 18+ fans I doubt there would have been as much of an outrage…if not any.
You can't listen to songs like stripped raped and strangled by Cannibal Corpse and cry about WAP being offensive. Hypocritical bullshit. Now if you only listen to technical metal and don't like the simplicity of mainstream music I can understand. I like what I like though I mostly listen to Darkwave and Goth Rock. Also who gets me over women dancing or twerking and having fun in a music video? The guys are uptight and wonder why they repel women.
I feel like Finn can sometimes be everyone's marching wind up toy, they wind em up and place him in whatever direction they see fit to see what cliff he'll fall off next
10 year old girls don’t listen to Infant Annihilator though. That is why people I think were rightfully perturbed about Cardi Bs song. This song was particularly vulgar and popular, hence the disproportionate outrage.
Literally what I was thinking. You can't compare extreme graphic music that is unaccessible unless you go out of your way to look for it, to mainstream pop that is literally everywhere. This was a horrendous take, he was on a good streak for a while imo.
@@dynamicdingus7003 Many such cases!!
Lol, good video man but as a long time metalhead I've never had any issue with Cardi B. or any Rap / Hip Hop.... But as a person who works in IT it did annoy me that I can't use the acronym for "Wireless Access Point" in a professional setting anymore lol
EXACTLY
This is the real problem.
Cardi B and Meghan Thee Stallion aren't doing anything new. Artists like Lil Kim and Trina were doing overtly sexual music decades before WAP came out.
yes
Khia did a much better song about snack time.
The outcry from metalheads for WAP was the same as metalhead outcry over Jason Aldean.
Like “WAP” is a horribly written song and the only reason anyone defended it was because Ben Shapiro was mad at it. A LOT of real musicians commented on the lack of quality for the song and lyrics. “The little dangly thing in the back of my throat” is just looking for syllables.
It may actually be the lowest amount of effort anyone has put forward to get a gold record.
And then you combine it with her already being known as a terrible, you’re going to get backlash from your typical musician.
Like this song was so bad, it desensitized nearly everyone enough to make a song about Applebee’s become a hit on Billboard.
I used to go to alternative clubs 88-92 in the SF Bay Area and they were some of the only places to play NWA and 2 Live Crew songs. I'm grateful that I got to experience it. The PMRC got close to banning 2 Live Crew's music so I will always respect them for fighting against them and winning.
PMRC got close to banning everyone’s music; if they had their way, Metal and hip hop wouldn’t exist at all
Great topic. I would love to see another round of these.
Usually I agree with most of your takes Finn, but I think the issue with WAP was how mainstream it is/was on all forms of media. It was blasted on pop stations. Clearly I am not and never been a Cardi B fan, but her race has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Other songs you mentioned usually have to have a layer of accesibility to them, but no, I don't think it's very appropriate to be listening to WAP while buying groceries and pumping gas
Agreed. Inappropriate for public consumption. Totally cool if you wanna listen to it in private or it 'empowers' you. Go right ahead! But the reality is it's crass and written to get attention. Reminds me of Drrty back in the day by Xtina.
Equally agree, think the issue was with how mainstream it was and that children would be listening to it and being influenced, Finn really doubling down on her being black but I think that's a Finn issue.
I didn't think she was black, I thought she was Latina.
But anyway, why is a song edgy or controversial? A lot of controversial songs have a message to them. F the police was controversial, but it was trying to say something. WAP is just trying to be nasty and trying to get attention. We see it all the time, especially with female rappers with songs, like truffle butter, how many licks, etc.
Agreed. It's a joke that you can't swear on TV or radio but Cardi B gets a free pass. Also, look at what gets removed from RUclips or agree restricted but this isn't. Nothing to do with her race
I think Pharrell wrote most of Blurred Lines which probably pisses Robin Thicke off since he took the downfall.
It's a parent's responsibility to keep their kids from listening to stuff they don't want them to listen to not an artist's responsibility to censor themselves.not all pop music is intended for kids
exactly
No pop music is appropriate for kids.
My kids love The Blue Stones, JJ Grey, and Metallica, my 5 year old daughter made me turn back to Cowboy's from Hell in the car yesterday....I was so proud.😊
(I've been using my children as "scientific" experiments to work out what is appealing music wise to avoid having to listen to kid's songs, I'd sing old blues songs to get them to sleep and ZZ Top, because I wanted my kids to have "groove")
It worked. Although the Prodigy is a favourite...I have a 5 year old and another 5 year old who will be 6 tomorrow. Blues and Groove is what will either excite the kids or put them to sleep.
It is entertaining watching two kids headbanging to Rage Against the Machine though 😂
It’s unfair to expect a parent to watch over everything their kid listens to. They can filter out stuff on the extremes, but if a song is as popular as WAP, there’s not a whole lot a parent can do to stop their child from hearing it.
@@acenine8149 all I'm saying is it's not an artists job to censor them selves at all
I think your wayyy off on the cari b song... im not a metalhead and im a fan of music from all colours and sexes, but cardi b just doesnt do it for a lot of people. She has a criminal past and she knows full well that many young impressionable girls listen to her. Imagine having a daughter and she starts singing the lyrics to WAP. Even the censored lyrics are innapropreate. Yeah bands i like have lots of bad lyrics such as "fuck a dog" by blink, but those are niche songs that where often hidden as secret tracks on explicit versions of CDs. WAP was put straight into the charts for all to hear.
We’re all edgy until we have kids.
I didn't introduce my son to GWAR till he was 20.
I believe One in a million was about Axl himself coming from the middle of nowhere in Indiana to LA. What he thought he'd find in the big city, it's probably what he heard back in his home town lol.
I love you Fin and generally agree with you, but I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I don't hate Cardi B because of WAP, I'm all for freedom of expression, I just despise her as a person after she literally admitted that she used to drug and rob men after sleeping with them. I find it deplorable that she has a successful career after something like that with zero repercussions, and I'm fairly sure that if the roles were reversed and a man admitted to doing that, his career would be over before it even began.
Exactly. If that were Drake who did that, I guarantee his public opinion would be that of Ian Watkins from Lostprophets and his music would probably be pulled from Spotify. I guarantee it.
Drugs and robbery? The hell you say! Well, I've never heard of that before, not in any of my Rap Music.
There is positivity in the negative stuff in the lyrics it helps people cope
Every generation takes things more and more personal...there isn't hate behind everything...
I feel like I just woke up for school and am half-awake walking into your classroom like this vid but it's rad
same
Ben Shapiro reading WAP lyrics will haunt my nightmares forever
no, it still is weird, if cardi b can write uncomfortable sexual lyrics, why can't the other guy write uncomfortable sexual lyrics? are we pretending that the concept of blurred lines doesnt exist? its not like he is singing "youre gonna take it if you like it or not"
Tarantino doesn’t say the n word a single time in Django Unchained but go off I guess
I don't think I'd ever actually heard "WAP" until I saw this video. I work in a kitchen so I'm forced to listen to terrible garbage on a daily basis, and I've heard a lot. Somehow, despite all the hoopla, I escaped this one.
Okay, I'm going to posit this theory, not as a metalhead (which I am not) but as ... just a person. A conservative. First of all, I understand where Finn is coming from about not being offended by outrageous art (in Cardi B's case, that's definitely with quote marks), but I see a couple of subtle distinctions he has failed to make vis-a-vis objections to it. For one thing, Benny, and conservative voices like his, are not offended in the way Finn imagines they are. Ben Shapiro is clearly making fun of Cardi B (and more recently, Sexyy Red) and with every right. These people deserve to be made fun of. It's not like Ben Shapiro has never heard a four-letter word and is now scandalized. Part of the frustration that people (mainly on the right) have with trashbags like Cardi B is the tedium factor. Like, ugh, didn't we go through all of this thirty long years ago with Madonna? Is Pennywise coming back again? Conservatives are, by nature, more romantic and idealistic than liberals. What revolts us is not the "shock" of the latest money-grabbing hussy grinding in front of a camera. I'm old enough to remember Lil Kim and Missy Elliot and it has been the same pathetic story over and over with these women. I am actually more scandalized, more truly offended, that someone such as Finn would think commonplace crap would actually cause my cheeks to crimson! What bothers us on the right (I know nothing of what gets metalheads going) is the reduction of human desire to the material to the exclusion of the spiritual. The left has been waging a war against the spiritual aspect of man since at least Malthus and Kant and Mill and Cardi B is exactly what the adults in the room expected would happen.
The other thing that Finn misses is that engaging in sinful behavior does not deprive the participant of an objective view of reality or a voice with which to express it. Imagine a career bank robber goes on TV and says, "I hope they catch the bastard. Stealing people's money is just wrong!" Well, is he a hypocrite? Yes. But is what he is saying less true because he is? This a analogous to Finn's portrayal of the objectors to Cardi B. Are they watching porn? Maybe. Does that mean it's not bad to watch porn, and arguably MUCH WORSE to have it broadcast where impressionable kids can access it?
Are we better off, as individuals and as a society, by raising our lowest impulses to the standard, or are we better off raising a standard higher than our lowest impulses and being glad for it even as we fail?
Interesting criticism, just wish you would also take that open-minded critical analysis to your either or description of politics. There’s much more in this world than liberal and conservative. And the characterisations, you just made equally, just as lazy, and again, didn’t we go through this shit 30 years ago?
One thing I’ll say about the cardi b song is really just this. It was heralded as some kind of female empowerment song and was celebrated enough it reached the highest levels of the system. It allowed her to go to the White House and speak with the president. 20-30 years ago that would have been unheard of. I think that’s where you get some people who are right wing adjacent agitated with it.
I don’t think race has anything to do with it… i feel like this race baiting sh!t has been going so hard people just think everything is racial. Metal heads aren’t as offended by “infant annihilator” and bands like that because they’re obscure and you have to see them out to find them. Cardi B is a major pop artist and we all know pop music is marketed to young people and she speaks pretty nasty/freaky and people don’t want their children to be victims of hyper sexuality.
Interesting take with Cardi B…
If u like metal, but don’t like her, you’re a racist?
yea.....Finn isn't too bright...
One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen. Anyone who falsely plays the race card is a total woke coward. Beyoncé and Rihanna are beloved and are black. Imagine Dragons and Nickleback are hated and are white. What was Finn thinking?!
Legit met a few parents that flipped out over the Grammys performance of that song. No different than parents tripping at any other point in time. But if metal is something parents should pay attention too, it’s kinda silly to assume “Wet Ass Pussy” wouldn’t hit a father’s (or mother’s) radar as well. Let’s stop going “Your bad guy is worse than my bad guy” lol if you let your daughter bop to this, that’s you? Hahaha
lol right
My friends thought 2 Live Crew was the funniest thing when we were in middle school so the outrage over WAP as if it was a new crass low was so confusing to me. My other big gripe is the flattening of everyone under the age of eighteen that happens when people want to emphasize their culture war point by calling them children. I wouldn't want my 7 year old listening to WAP but I wouldn't give a shit if a teenager did.
Blurred Lines is more about playing hard to get. Kinda like that one Christmas song everyone tried to cancel, except a bit more vulgar.
What’s really funny is that at the time this came out, I worked for RadioShack. The company basically made this their theme song and I think may have sponsored the video because they used different cuts of the video with them holding products as commercials. I wonder if they regret it after the controversy
The whisper song was a big thing when i was a kid
My problem with Cardi B is my problem with a lot of modern rap. It’s very uninspired. It’s all about sex, money, clout, partying. That’s about the extent of the subject matter and it’s played out.
I've given IOP and other stuff I fair shake but it's very mid to me. Fantano and others giving her some acclaim makes it all the more bemusing.
And that is why it’s popular and why rock and metal music is not. I’ve been saying this for years already. Rock and metal music takes itself too seriously. It has doubled down on the seriousness. There’s no fun in it anymore. And like what Gene Simmons said: “Rockstars stopped acting like rockstars.” There’s a reason why a lot of the rock and metal was popular throughout the 60s all the way towards the 80s.
I would agree with you one on thing that I hate about rap music; the glorification of committing crimes. That I can agree.
Blurred Lines came off to me as playfully teasing the good girl or quiet girl because they're actually a freak and they're playing hard to get. The way some people were outraged at this song at the time you would think it was just overtly advocating for assault. Meanwhile around that time you had a hit song by Zara Larsson called Ain't My Fault that if a guy had done it, would have rightfully been called out for how rapey the lyrics sounded
Exactly. The lyrics of blurred lines are honestly not that different than most sleazy/slutty pop songs. I think people are being overly dramatic about it.
People whitewash rappers constantly. A lot of the most anti-cop and pro-black rappers have historically been pretty homophobic and misogynistic, often 5%ers or NOI.
That GnR song might as well have been called “Birth of a Nation”
Plus all the comments on any video about that song are just like, “Yeah thank god he said it. He was just saying what everyone else was thinking” type shit.
which is dumb lol
Another good video, except when you pulled out actual Alex Jones level logic for disliking Cardi B. Her history of rape doesn't exactly help your point here either
It’s silly when gen x and millennials complain about how explicit music is today like we weren’t singing wildly inappropriate shit at the ripe age of 12 too.
Somehow, I managed to get ahold of The Mark, Tom, and Travis Show when I was like 7. Blewjob and Words of Wisdom at the end of the album is like 10 minutes of Blink's stupid live bits.
Can't really get mad at any of these songs haha
True i remember that
You know there is something really F’d up in Kanye if you can make Alex Jones cringe or concerned. 😂😂😅
right omg
Calling everyone racist is so 2020. Come on.
Blatant outgroup preference
I’m a prude and I judge all crude music. This I’ll defend 🇺🇸😂
I remember Axl being asked about One innA Million. He said it reflects some very f his thoughts some of the time. He did not say he was writing from a character perspective.
The first time I heard WAP was at my MMA gym. I wasn't offended, but very confused...
Here's the thing... about Cardi B that gets deflected by the white knight crew, no offense: she's probably the most example of how porn has seeped into every form of media and the zeitgeist in general. It is now infinitely more accessible to everyone, including children. I won't say "minors" because most of us became exposed to it around puberty. To say the parents weren't good parents if they weren't concerned about Suic*de Solution in the same breath as laughing at the fact that this song is targeting young girls, by your own admittance, is absolutely insane to me. And no, I don't listen to Infant Annihilator or Cannibal Corpse either. Nor do I think porn being made so socially acceptable is a good thing. It's a major problem in western society and it really shows when you look at the rise of mental illness, toxic romantic relationships, and divorce (and the family unit in our country in general). Music like Cardi B put the nail in the coffin. Now pre pubescent children walk around singing and rapping about scenes you'd find in a porno. Good job.
Finn reminds me of a Dave Chappelle in early 2000s. He trojan-horses a lot of thoughtful conversations and social issues into his intrertainment. And what i appreciate even more that he gives them another round from time to time to solidify and expand as the audience grows. That is how a good content maker should be these days. Not one dimensional and well balanced.
Suicide Solution was written about Bon Scott (AC/DC)
12:50
Ice Cube pretending to be a street thug, while he comes from a middle class background, and attends college.
Cool story Finn; Infant Annihilator isn't on the radio for our children to listen to. My kid isn't listening to my music either. What I listen to isn't broadcasted freely for my child to be influenced by. It has fuck all to do with her being a woman of color. That is such a cop out. Yeah, Twitter has unrestricted porn all over too. That is also wrong, and its existence doesn't make media like hers any more acceptable. You really pick and choose when you want to virtue signal.
The man has no logic in his arguments tbh. He will hold high standards for rock bands like Brand New and As I Lay Dying, but no standards for POC and rappers
Did you change the title of this video ?
Suicide Solution also has a part with a lot of delay and people were sure he was saying "get the gun. Shoot, shoot!". That was more of what caused the outrage. Obviously along with the song title some people were sure this was a pro suicide song.
which is dumb
The Rampart Scandal was the inspiration for the great TV 'The Shield'.
Pumped up kicks! 👀
2:25 I actually totally agree.
I remember recording songs off the radio on tape and sometimes editing them further (old-school style... I'd stop recording right before the offending lyric, then hit record again right after) because I was too embarrassed to listen to anything even slightly edgy in front of my mom, lol. ... Then, a couple years later I discovered Marilyn Manson and that all changed, haha.
I suggest listening to Brojob’s cover of WAP
Good video
cardi b take is way too reductive.
yeah, plenty of metal bands have not great lyrics, but how many of them are getting millions and millions of streams and being exposed to your 8 year old kids? I think the issue with WAP is how inescapable it was (thanks in part to the reaction ofc). I think when mainstream stars have super vulgar lyrics, it's different than your cannibal corpses and slipknots. And I'm old enough to remember when Eminem had some pretty vulgar shit in his songs when he was a superstar and he was mercilessly blasted for it by the media and outraged parents. strongly disagree that race is a factor here.
Metal fans seem fine with Eninem. I wonder why?
@@FinnMckentyPRMBAbecause he's considered one of the best lyricists of all time and cardi b isn't.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA were they in 2002? also, yeah what that other guy said. eminem is legitimately one of the best rappers of all time and cardi b doesn't crack the top 500.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBAEminem has had a Lot of criticism over the years
I didn’t know I was upset at Cardi, I only have this song in my phone and occasionally listen to it 😂
Maybe people hate her because she drugged and robbed dudes and got a movie made about it and was in the fuckin movie???? Idk that's none of my business
The brojob cover of WAP is certified goat
For some reason, people have this "bad music = bad person" mentality. Art isn't always autobiograhical. We don't know these people. What we see in the media and on the internet isn't always true, it's usually cherry-picked, biased information and sometimes it's just based on a persona. They could make music you hate or find offensive but for all you know, in real life they could be kind, loving, moral, good parents, great friends, etc.. If anyone should know this, it should be metal fans.
Slayer got blamed for a massive murder back in the day. 😢
which goes back to the stupid myth that metal causes violence
I think the issue with WAP was the fact that it was very mainstream and lot's of kids were singing along to the song and posting tiktoks of these suggestive dances. Other than that idc. Saying that it's cus Cardi B is black is a huge reach. Nicki Minaj is black and she's 100 times better than Cardi
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I had friends who were upset about WAP, and I had to remind them that they used to listen to 2 live crew and nwa back in the day.
Finn virtue signaling again *shakes head*. I never bothered to listen to WAP when it came out. From what I've seen of the video and lyrics- it is rather porny; I wouldn't want kids to see it (same with Steel Panther if we want a metal example)! If you really want to go after a song like WAP you need to have a strong conception of sexual morality and be able to be consistent about it, which is tough to do given how sexualized EVERY part of pop culture is.
Let's just say it: all sex outside of marriage is immoral and fornication/homo stuff should not be promoted in public (the reasoning can be found in Catholic Social Teaching, Natural Law Theory, the Bible, etc. As Plato says in the Republic "we must silence the lying poets" who make sex outside of marriage seem epic, fun, and harmless.
Whatever, all I'm saying is that it is worth digging deep on this issue instead of Finn using ad hominems of "the only people against sexualized media are racists, incels, and hypocritical porn watchers". Cos a big case could be made that ADULTS, who care about the long term success of society, are the ones are the people against sexual degeneracy because there are objective reasons why promoting sex outside of marriage leads to bad outcomes (destruction of the family, morally compromising young people, leading people to a hedonistic/atheistic life instead of virtue/righteousness, etc.).
Man, Kanye is GOATED. Famous is a pretty tight song; but it's a bit of a stretch to say that he made Taylor famous; they had separate audiences.
One in a Million is great. Axel doesn't get the whole picture, but it is a good anthem for White people who want to be left alone; we didn't ask for Black crime, mass non-White immigration, etc. and shouldn't have to bow down to the radical social changes being made without our consent and support.
Funny how Justin Timberlake one-upped Thicke with one of his own music videos (one of those 20/20 Experience songs); both videos use nudity and porny lyrics, but JT was able to come off as artistic whereas Thicke looked trashy (imo).
Not everyone believes in your god
You have a common sensical approach to all of this. It's undeniably a parent's responsibility to handle these situations with intelligence. Blaming the artist is lazy parenting.
I was at in n out the other day and some guy dressed nice had Alex Jones on full blast.
17:30 also another in a similar fashion, "sex type thing" by stp.
yeh
Yeah I used to watch porn. It’s horrible and I hate it, but I’m not perfect. WAP is still incredibly vulgar. I didn’t listen to Infant Annihilator, just don’t want to hear WAP in public. If it’s pearl clutching, call me Beatrice.
Killin’ the game as always Finn 🙏
GnR one in a million is a fun song at the end of the day.
I just heard WAP for the first time because I was somehow not aware. I do not think that is something new. Rap was always sexualized, just listen to some 00's Southern Rap or Missy Elliot. I am surprised that people would get upset in 202X about more or less soft stuff. Speaks for their marketing to make a scandal out of something so mediocre...
I would assume that some of the justified frustration might come from the mass popularity of Cardi B, and the messages that, for example, a young 8 to 12-year-old daughter (or son) might be consistently around. And I guess the generational difference of when we were young, the messages we were getting from mainstream music, to now. I guess you could say that’s projection of frustration from an overall Perspective of the Internet and what kids have available.
I’m not a parent yet, so I can’t really talk, and I guess that’s just the world today, as opposed to pre-dial up and maybe being able to afford TV to watch MTV.
Perhaps?
Literally, just after I commented this year, said the same thing, Tis the age of the Internet
I got the answer as to why NWA isn't and won't be canceled for their lyrics. Because stuff like Bitch Is A Bitch isn't a mainstream song. The general person knows NWA because of Fuck The Police, Express Yourself(First song I heard of theirs, Thanks GTA SA) and Straight Outta Compton and even maybe Gangsta Gangsta, Dope Man and Chin Check. Only the engaged fan of NWA, rap or music in general will find those songs. Hell I didn't know about Bitch Is A Bitch until the NWA movie because I just wasn't the invested into NWA other then the core hits. So those songs are 100% just flying under the radar even with millions of plays on Spotify.
A dumb idea for a video, we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel now… 🤣
Suicide Solution is credited to Ozzy, Randy Rhoads and Bob Daisley
Ozzy is credited with every song on his 2022 album.
You may be correct about Suicide Solution being about Ozzy. But I've heard Ozzy say in an interview that he wrote it about Bon Scott who died as a result of drinking and aspirating his own vomit while passed out drunk.
He didn’t write it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Solution
Well color me surprised that a lifelong alcoholic and drug abuser can't be trusted to tell the truth 😂@@FinnMckentyPRMBA
Shocking, right??
Finn and Trap Lore Ross run the music RUclips sphere.
Don't know how my parents let me bump this on repeat in a heavy self harm generation lol matter of fact, this is the song that prompted me to ask my parents what suicide was. Under 10 years old, that was a big word to me lol
oh dang
Yes! WAP is funny. Great song. Donnell Rawlings did a great comic bit about it.
One thing I notice when it comes to male metalheads and female sexuality is that they thirst after female metal musicians and metalheads, but they lose all respect if they sexualize themselves too hard. Same thing with gamer girls. They're seen as being posers and "disrespecting themselves" when they're just choosing to show skin.
I guess these guys are projecting their uncontrollable horniness and unhealthy, disrespectful views on sex onto these women. They have to be these perfect virginal angels or else they're thots.
It's also got overlap with the dynamic between K-Pop stans and their favorite idols, who aren't allowed to date because the fans have to be able to fantasize about being with them. I'm sure that plays a role, too.
yes for sure
Nah we just appreciate girls who aren't the town bicycle. Don't need to be a virgin just have some respect for yourself
I've never heard that GNR song but frankly I'd be flabbergasted if I found out that Axl Rose ISN'T racist.
Have you heard Cardi b be Bacardi talk, nails on a chalk board.
Re Ozzy Osbourne, "back in those days" we just didn't have conversations about mental health. Its so important to talk about.
The Ozzy song was canceled not because of the lyrics alone, it was the album version that had an effect that sounded like "Shoot, Shoot, Shoot, Shoot shoot"
I thought 2 live Crew would make the list for sure. Even the president wanted ban their album.
Don't agree with the insinuation of why Quinton Terrintino puts that word in his movies, but most of your other points werw good. Don't understand the metal heads against Cardi B thing though. Haven't met any metal heads that could give two shits about it, to be honest. But I dont hang out with really stupid or ignorant people so.. there's that.
That Marvin Gay lawsuit was definitely conerning. You could make a better argument, I think, for something like "Born This Way" vs. "Express Yourself" and many others...but even then, "vibe stealing" or whatever has been around forever.
Thank you for showing footage of Jake E Lee. God did he get the short end of the straw.
It's the first time I've heard this song Wap. O haven't miss anything.
She doesn’t really say “wet and gushy” fyi haha