Adderall Use by Those Who Don't Have ADHD
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2018
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5:08 if you have attention issues and want to get straight to the point
Liam C Thank you, I was starting to have anxiety
Bless you.
Thanks dude. I was far forwarding
Thank you
Bless you
Lol, me with my ADHD playing this video at 2xs speed so I can comprehend what they're saying without getting distracted. 😂 The first time I took a stimulant I didn't realize it would calm me down and I ended up falling asleep during a test 😂 Having ADHD is like someone else has the controller to your brain and is flipping through the channels rapidly. Being on stimulants is as if you finally are the one with the controller and can watch what you want to watch. It is so empowering!
ME TOOO
The 2x speed ✋😅 I get so bored and noncreative when I take my medication 😒 suddenly I can hear people talk and the entertaining narrative in my brain stops talking over them. It would have been such a help in grade school.. but self paced courses I can blow through and actually retain the information! NOT on dang medication though. Such a double edged sword. I just accepted I’m not gonna speak that language and continue on my lil adhd hamster wheel lol
So ur answer is to get booted up?
this is an amazing description
PERFECT explanation!!!!!!
I actually have adhd and instead of being hyper and impulsive and all over the place im actually calm, relaxed, i dont have to have something to fidget with when im doing something. I can actually focus! The downside is that im sleepy.
We’re you diagnosed?
@@JoeRoganPodcastirl yes I was and the stimulants work. They calm me down. My mind isn't racing 24/7.
@@purple_amethyst how did you go about getting diagnosed?
Stimulants help you focus, not calm down
@@userware when you have adhd you idiot it has the opposite effect of what it should. Do some damn research! Dumbass
I have ADD and i dont have patience listening to this. They talk so slow, I'd rather read the information than watch this video. Too bad the organisation that controls prescription meds in Australia do not approve adderrall, so I am on the next stimulant. this works well for me.
The heck is 'the next stimulant'
Why not both
What's the next? Illicit stimulant?
If you take Aderall when you have ADHD, it makes you just able to focus, and direct that focus
If you take Adderall *without* ADHD, you just get a cracked out super focus that you cant control very well. Ive heard of some dudes counting every hair on their arm after taking adderall to study.
Sounds lit, I don’t think I have adhd but still wanna try 😅
Back when I was in college I suffered from major depression, which made it difficult to pay attention in class. I told my doctor, and although I don’t have ADHD, she prescribed Adderall. It didn’t take long for the side effects to start. I always had what amounted to a major caffeine buzz. Along with that, my heart began beating so hard and fast that I had to go to the ER. I don’t recommend using Adderall if you don’t have ADHD. To be fair to my doctor, she prescribed it because she thought I might have ADHD. Believe what the doctors said in the video.
That’s wrong, you’re just sensitive to stimulants
@@l21n18😭😭😭
LOL. Its a powerful STIMULANT. Anyone that takes it is going to have a sustained increase in heart rate. It's why it's so bad for your heart.@@l21n18
@@l21n18or the dose he is prescribed is just too high for his body to handle (linking back to his sensitivity to stimulants)
To the ADHDers planning to watch this or watching and need the reminder:
Bump up the video speed. You’re welcome, lol.
Holy shit, yes. Thank you!
damn i actually think i have adhd i could barely focus through this...
@@dangoslin Neurotypical people experience boredom too, you know.
Normal people taking Adderall get ADHD.
ADHD people taking Adderall get normal.
WORD
A 10 min video that could of been 4 min video.
I really enjoy the way you provoked your opinion, You did it in a very calm and neutral way. It will help me talk with my nephew he’s a senior, his mother is a little worried but to kind of a girl to do anything. Thank you for this video and realistic information within, much appreciated!!!
My adhd is making it real hard to watch this boring video
I entertained myself in the comments... Zero idea what they said and I played the entire video
Lol staying up all night because of work started in 6th grade for me lol
Next thing we know, there's going to be elementary students having burnout
Depends on the adderall for me. I’m diagnosed adhd but some generic forms cause declines where as brand name does exactly what it’s suppose to do
I knew I couldn’t be the only one to experience this!
I always found it difficult to keep my focus in class. I would find myself lost in random, quickly - changing, thoughts, and then realizing that I had not been paying attention for several minutes, so I struggled in college a lot. At the time, I had heard people talking about ADHD, but I wasn't very familiar with what it was exactly, or that I might have it myself. I have never been prescribed with it and I have never brought it up with a doctor. Recently took some Adderall from a friend who had some and holly shit! All of a sudden I felt so motivated and my thoughts were so clear and deep and I could actually analyze everything with amazing detail. It was then that I understood how helpful this drug can be for getting things done. I felt a bit euphoric and very motivated for a few hours. However I also think that it is no more than a bandait drug. I think social media use makes us more susceptible to ADHD and also the school system is to blame because it puts a lot of pressure by saturating students with assignments and homework that makes the thirst for knowledge become a mental resistance to stress and losing interest in school. School should not be synonymous with mental torture.
Well for those of us that came up before the rise of social media I can say I don’t think its as accurate to blame it on that as you think
Social media won’t change you that much
ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder aka a brain disorder. There may be rarer instances that could cause ADHD, such as brain trauma, but I just don’t see social media causing it, it would be hard pressed. They are still studying and researching so much of ADHD and even the DSM-5 is not entirely accurate as it isn’t updated with the new findings of the disorder. There are scientist that are trying to have certain aspects changed. Social media doesn’t make my ADHD worse, my ADHD does cause me to use social media more thanks to a brain that constantly searches for dopamine and we are easily distracted(aside from the hyper focus aspect) unless taught proper coping, self taught coping, and/or medications. Oh, and the ability to procrastinate like a pro.
Unfortunately, the school system was structured for neurotypical brains. *sigh* But there are accommodations available for many that can be helpful. :)
have you talked to a doctor about this, I am on adderall now in high school and you have exactly what i have problem’s with. I don’t fidget i just zone out when i’m not intrested and i don’t really care about school. i take 2 20mg tablets a day and it basically just feels like caffein but lasts longer and doesn’t leave a gross coating on my teeth. and it doesn’t make me hyper it just locks me into one thing that i’m doing instead of going on my phone while doing homework and stuff. If i get destructed while on the meds i stay destructed and it’s hard to get back to work but once i’m working there’s nothing happening exept me working. How are you doing with no meds? i’ve only been on them for about 6 months. and was diagnosed with ADD
The stereo recording on this thing is FUCKED UP and is driving me crazy.....now i have to flip my headphones.
Came to the comments just to see if it was only me lol yea, horrible audio
Omg- I went to middle school with Bernie. Such a nice guy ❤️
I’m watching this video because I have adhd and I started taking adderall, I noticed when I first took it I felt a little anxious but then it made me feel spacy and sleepy, I was at the grocery store and there was a lot of people and loud noises. But then later that day once the adderall had stopped working I notice that I became super super sensitive to loud noises and became very frustrated and angry when I couldn’t get away from the loud noises. I don’t know if that is a normal response but now I only take half a pill, it doesn’t work as good cause I’ll still get distracted and have racing thoughts. But now I don’t have any anxiety at all unless the pill is starting to wear off and it’s only when I hear loud noises. I started freaking out at work because I work in a noisy environment. Does anyone know if that is a normal response? In a month I think I’m going to have my doctor change my medication, i feel like once the pill wears off it amplifies my sensitivity to noises, smells and makes me cranky!
Hey how’s it going now? I’m experiencing similar symptoms.
So if you don't have ADHD and you take adderal you'll develop ADHD symptoms...
Just like the dumbass kids recreationally poppin xans, without actually needing and being prescribed them.. They are giving themselves anxiety issues they NEVER HAD.
True true true
Any substance that artificially increases dopamine count will over time cause an ADHD effect. Ranging from nicotine and caffeine to Adderall. The larger and more frequent your doses the faster this happens. This is really common with coffee, considering how much coffee the average person consumes it's no wonder most people require caffeine to feel normal.
@@rylar6593 nope
@@themothman3726 uh no
Why would they pan the audio hard left and right, but opposite to their orientation on the screen? This bothers me more than it probably should.
Video is probably mirrored
Watch with the screen behind you and a mirror Infront of you
@@AsianConfection No, the words on the dude’s shirt is readable.
@@user-hj5io2wt3d ...Can the audio be mirrored? Lol
@@kittykitties4220 Maybe lol
i have kids in college and i know they have a huge workload and im sure drugs " medication " such as Adderall could very well help tremendously, when taken responsibly. assuming they're responsible enough to completely kick ass in college then theyre responsible enough to consume drugs responsibly.
i believe in better living through chemistry.
i still dont know why we blame drugs for a people problem
I always used caffeine for cram sessions. It works for me except I have horrible anxiety. I am now 36 and my psychologist think that I have ADHD and mentioned Adderall as being a possibility if the psychiatrist agrees but I think I would rather stick to caffeine and try to mitigate my anxiety with magnesium and L-theanine (green tea)
Watching this wondering what it's like because medication makes me normal 😂 x that's how u can tell who has ADHD
Doesn’t make you anxious though? It’s a stimulant???
@@visionvixxen I don’t know if you have adhd or tried medication but, as someone with adhd, if you take the prescribed dose you should feel calm and focused which i do. It IS a stimulant but it reacts differently with people who have adhd. However if someone even with adhd takes a large dose it can cause anxiety
That’s not a very good way of finding out, but adhd meds do calm me down since I have it
That’s not true actually
@@guitarcovers3518 uh no it doesn’t unless you have a paradoxical reaction to it which is quite rare
5 minutes in and they still ain't said shit. play at 1.5 or you will fall to sleep.
What happend, If you have ADHD and take speed (very low dose) instead of an ADHD medicine?
Same thing the medication would do. Only meds like adderall have much milder side effects. Actual speed has very powerful side effects that will catch up to you over time making it an interesting idea- but ultimately unsuccessful in an adhd medication substitute
Speed and adderall are practically the same thing, but adderall is safer to take because it's regulated whereas speed could have anything in it and you wouldn't know.
I like how many times they said *right* when the other one was talking 😂💀
I accidentelly took aderall once and after read about its side effects like ,penis shrinkin,Dizzyness,and other things . I took it once just once can any of those side effect happen ?
@Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad decrease of blood flow to extremities means a shriveled penis while on the medication. Erections should be unaffected.
Where did you read that miho
I get horny as f!!! Does u guys??
Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad do u get hard??
@@Catfishboy2014. brother
Don’t know if anyone would see this but, I started taking adderall in March 2021. Ever since then I take about 30-40 pills (30mgs) a month. Some every other day. Sometimes 2 pills on the weekends. I do not have ADHD. Mostly did it for the feel, and I love how I feel on it. Just happy and everything is amazing and positive. Now, 7 months later, lost a bit weight which helped because I was “overweight”, and I now try to take about 15-20 a month instead of the 30-40. I’m thinking of lowering that dose and eventually stopping fully. I’ve had no problems with addiction or stopping whenever I wanted. Aside from the fact I shouldn’t take it because I don’t have ADHD, I wanna know what people think about this. Again, so far no side effects or withdraw symptoms.
Hey angel. Just wondering how did you feel on adderall did you feel euphoric? Because I don’t have adhd and used it to see what happens except all that happened was it helped me focus and made school a little more fun. Just wanna know if you had any other effects because I’m now wondering if I have adhd because of how little I felt and all it did was make me perform better
@@masonwagner6674 Yeah, I feel euphoric every time I take it. I don’t have adhd but adderall makes me focus on tasks as well but overall when I take it I’m usually multitasking like playing games, listening to music, or cleaning my room lml.
@@angelramos1987 thanks for responding I took 40 mg of adderall and didn’t feel any euphoria other than maybe a slight caffeine buzz when you were to take 30 mg was the euphoria as strong as weed (if you have ever smoked) because for me it didn’t give me a high at all
@@masonwagner6674 I usually take a 30 mg for the first 2 hrs I feel euphoria. Then I take 3-4 pills more every hour. I’ve been taking them for over a year so the effects have dialed down. But with one 30mg pill I still feel the euphoria every time.
@@angelramos1987 your pill usage went up from 30 per month to 3-4 every hour?
If someone smokes crack but doesn't need it they will develop crackhead symptoms
Who need crack?
So what does it mean if I was diagnosed as a kid, given adderall, and instead of working it, like, completely f**ked with my mood and possibly permanently messed me up .
Unfortunately, it's a failure of the system. There should've been a follow-up check-up with your psychiatrist where they'd evaluate if it's helping or not and adjust the dose or switch to a different medication. You can't just medicate someone without observing how it's affecting them.
This video sucks for people w adhd. Like I genuinely could not find any interest in this. This is the equivalent of reading a 400 page novel, except it’s worse because I still got nothing out of it.
I literally just took adhd medication today, i dont have adhd my mind is going 100 miles per hour but i dnt feel anything special besides talking way too much
Literally that’s all
I do have ADHD and took some Adderall IR an hour ago and I’m about to fall asleep. I don’t feel jittery at all. My eyelids feel heavy and it’s only 4:40pm. I did do a lot of housework earlier so maybe that kicked my butt.
As someone who has REALLY BAD adhd, it really doesn’t do anything. 20mg is enough to basically get me to sit down and be able to read questions for homework and not skip 3/4 of the page or catch myself day dreaming. It also gives a SMALL sense of happiness. But I get that same feeling after a great workout. But the overall best feeling is that of being in CONTROL of my own mind!!!!! FINALLY to have control of my thoughts
I have it severely & they won't prescribe proper medications because of this issue. I was diagnosed well before they even had people abusing this crap! I'm sick of trying to focus! I was on a small dose of rid 5mg time release & I need it. Years later I've experienced nothing but disrespect & I've gone without what I need because of people like this!! I can't stand them
So if this stuff diminishes working memory, what is another solution for ADD?
It doesn't for people with ADHD.
Took adderal and I don’t have adhd my friends told me it was concerts I was having a mental fucking breakdown
My best friend takes adderall and I told my best friend not to take it because he is not diagnosed with ADHD/ADD. I am diagnosed actually diagnosed with ADHD/ADD. I have been taking ADHD/ADD medications since I was a kid. My best friend didn’t listen to me and my best friend still takes it.
AI agree
This didn’t explain as much as I thought it would.
volume sucks
One of the ways to see, if persons really have adhd is giving them stimulants. ADHD (like 🙋🏻♀️), will finally calm and may easily (finally) fall a sleep. While the neurotypical person will get more focused, but also anxious inside...
Um no that’s not true, it’s not a polar opposite reaction like that, it works the same way as on anyone else
@@l21n18 no it does not since Adderall increases the levels of dopamine and other neurotransmitters into the brain, overstimulation can occur. This usually is not the case with people who have received a prescription for the medication because, if they have ADHD, their brain already has decreased levels of such neurotransmitters.
@@l21n18 does not work the same way on everybody else. people who take Adderall to improve their test scores may get a slight benefit, but it's mainly a placebo effect.
@@thankspete2013 depends like there is a sweet spot, it actually has been shorn to improve measures of accuracy on people in general. These drugs have been studied for decades before anyone even heard of ADHD too so keep that in mind. It’s funny though, why are people so freaked out about random folks using them to get an “unfair advantage” if they’re mostly useless for such non-ADHD folks anyways?
@@l21n18 yes thank you, ADHD makes someone understimulated and low dose of stimulants correct it to the right level of stimulation. High dose stimulants will do the exact same thing as a typical person.
If a typical person is understimulated from sleep deprivation then they might get bored easily and will be "calmed down" by stimulants because they will have the right amount of stimulation and can focus, people with ADHD are just like that most days which is why stimulants will stimulate them enough to not have to do it themselves with Netflix, RUclips, music, or fidgeting, so it appears to calm them down.
I'll cut to the chase here, from what I understand, neurotypicals who take Adderall or other stimulant ADHD medication seem to experience some similar symptoms to ADHD. The drug doesn't make you smarter, it helps rebalance an imbalanced brain, and taking it when your brain is balanced is just giving yourself the effects of a neurochemical imbalance.
Long story short, don't take it to study, you may just end up messing up your brain.
Uh no that’s not true and it’s not like they look inside your brain to diagnose you with add
No it won’t mess up your brain, and this information your putting out is wrong. You clearly don’t understand anything
@@l21n18 There's actually a lot of research into the neurological developmental differences in kids with ADHD.
Here's some rather quick reading on the subject. www.understood.org/en/learning-thinking-differences/child-learning-disabilities/add-adhd/adhd-and-the-brain
Here's the CDC referring to ADHD as a neurodevelopmental disorder. www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/facts.html
So I hope those satisfy any doubts you have as to what ADHD is. There's a very real reason to prescribe stimulants, as they help to normalize the function of the impacted parts of the brain. Hence cautioning against taking medication to study better. You're risking your brain.
@@MacManChomp This has nothing to do with the initial claim you made about how these drugs effect other people. Furthermore, its important to point out that these drugs are used medically for many more things than ADHD and that wasn't the initial medical usage either. They weren't developed for ADHD either, its totally accidental how they started to be used for that purpose. They are also used by the military for purposes that require one's brain to not be messed up at all like flying long missions.
@@l21n18 So then what do you have an issue with, and be precise. In your first two messages you made mentions of "looking at the brain" and I showed you the research involving looking at the brain. There's also plenty of research into how these pharmaceuticals interact with the human brain, and this video even talks about the symptoms of Adderall usage for a neurotypical brain. My "claim" is nothing more than cautioning against the use of stimulants in search of enhancing your ability to study. It's simply not a good idea, considering what we know about how these stimulants affect the human brain, which, regardless of which came first, is why the medication is prescribed to individuals with ADHD. Because you know, science is a thing, and just because something wasn't originally sought out for any express purpose doesn't make it an ineffective treatment. Reality just is, we have no affect on it, all we can do is observe it, and use the tools at our disposal to accomplish our goals. For instance, the goal of increasing the quality of life of someone with a neurobiological developmental disorder that primarily affects dopamine and norepinephrine pathways in the brain can be served by discovering that a chemical when introduced into the body reduces the rate at which dopamine and norepinephrine are purged from the brain.
I can do anything...
Why does no one ever think "hey, why are all these kids turning to strange drugs because it's feels like a better alternative to failing academically?" When, as a society, should we look inwards at what we're doing to children to make them feel that they have to succeed in school at any cost, including potentially sacrificing their physical and mental health?
Lol he says “mhm… mhm… right… right…” every 2 seconds
Most people confuse Anxyety with ADHD. You have to really dig deep and make sure you don't have GAD or depression before even attempting at diagnosing yourself with ADD or ADHD. Medicine only benefits those who have real struggles out of their control which is what brings most ADHD patients to the doctor. Everyone else taking the drug recreationally is only setting their dopamine bar higher and ruining their body and brain. Yes you may feel slight improvement in concentration at first but not long term.
Exactly. It takes a professional to diagnose ADHD as it’s one of the most complex neurological disorders. There are very strict guidelines as to what does and doesn’t merit a diagnosis and if it’s after the age of 12 there needs to be a great amount of evidence your life is directly affected and most psychiatrist will want to speak to either a parent or guardian or someone of authority who dealt directly with you, as a child. And the older you get the less likely it becomes that you are going to get the diagnosis meaning it’s bad enough that a psychiatrist feels you need to diagnosed and treated and require stimulant medication. And taking a stimulant without requiring it is basically red lining the gears of your perfectly normal brain 12 hours straight until it over loads and shuts down. It’s dangerous. And eventually it will just burn out all together. it doesn’t help normal people get “smarter” lol it literally just fries your brain like a McDonalds air frier and keeps you up long enough to do the things you don’t want to do in one shot.
Uk actually what you are saying is bullshit and it’s not like your brain is being looked at when they diagnose you. It won’t mess up your brain anymore than anyone else. I really doubt most people confuse add with anxiety it sounds like you pulled that out of your ass
@@kaykat4469 um this is complete bullshit actually as isntisb claim about frying your brain, it works exactly the same on your brain as Ivan adhd brain so you’re full of shit. Nobody requires any drugs, that’s not how it works. Furthermore stimulants are prescribed for
Other uses than just adhd
@@l21n18 thanks. Sounds like your justifying your substance abuse issues. Good luck
@@dinof84 nope
The audio.
I take it just for overnight shift
Neurofeedback instead helps EVERYONE
How is comprehension not improved if you can concentrate longer with Adderall? This doesn’t make sense to me. I hope your flight to the Philippines went well!
Well ignoring the previous commenter, anyone else trialing adderall for adhd and watching every video like this because you feel like an imposter even though you fell asleep after your first dose and have significantly improved working memory on it
And terrified of people like the previous commenter making it even harder for us to get medication we actually need.
I wanted to watch this so badly but I couldn't stop getting distracted by the man going "Mhmm" approximately every 3 seconds.
All yall filming this at McDonald's in the mall?
The way to stay healthy is stay as far away from doctors as you possibly can unless it’s a life and death situation. After all, they’re called Doctors of Medicine, not doctors of health.
Are they doctors or health professionals. Cause in today's world anyone can believe in anything (flat earthers)
My ADHD is giving anxiety because they're talking so sloooow
Lol don't enjoy the crash
There needs to be a much better way to diagnose and prescribe this drug way way way too. Many people are getting it and they do not need it and Dr should go to prison for that.
Idk if I have adhd or not but ima need these dudes to GET TF TO THE POINT! Gah damn! I had to speed this sht tf up! Pass me the Adderall atp lord hammercy 🤦🏽♀️
l'll refer this mycologist who introduce Adderall it helped me treat my depression and anxiety, check him out he also guide newbies on proper trips moments.
@novatripps
He's on Instagram
just take some speed bro
Lol not sure how much I can trust somebody with the Mic as bad as yours
your audio channels are reversed!
audio sucks
“May not be good for you” give them a warning? What the hell it’s addictive shame on you for sugarcoating this message.
“May be counterproductive” come on, quit sugarcoating
This is false and misleading, furthermore you have no idea what’s in someone’s brain, no one is diagnosed that way for ADHD
Even if you have ADHD the drug has the same negative effects. Stimulants like adderall are bad for you even if your doctor gave it to you!!! Have you ever seen a successful meth head!? Me either!
People taking medication for adhd are not “meth heads”. Thanks for perpetuating damaging stereotypes and hurting disabled people. 🙄aren’t you just a sterling example of the best of humanity🙄😑
Adhd is not nvm. I just think ADHD is everyone almost and adderall is 2 strong
Plus all take it even if they don’t have ADHD treat it like oxy
Thanks for the comment, Jordan A. You are right, many people have symptoms of ADHD, though not everyone actually has the disorder. Expectations at school, work, and in homes (with parents) often exceed what people can manage, resulting in behaviors that look like ADHD. It makes it very difficult to make an accurate diagnosis!
Thanks again!
Dr. Berney
You’re an idiot.
B
ADHD is definitely real bro