@Halo5501 Both of those abilities are off the GCD, so it would be a two line cast macro like this. /cast last stand /cast enraged regeneration That will pop both with one button push.
Hey Swifty. In BGs i always avoided Pallys and would NEVER duel one outside SW but i watch this vid yesterday and ive been dueling them constantly and gunning them in BGs cause this vid thought me so much. If you keep pressure on them alot of the time you dont get completly blown up and ive won far more times than i expected. Thank you!
@MrEmme94 It's just a graphic error that's always been around and only appears that way for you. It happens sometimes when you're strafing one direction and then immediately start strafing the opposite way.
i like to listen to your videos when im doing something w/e else . idk your voice is soo ... relaxing ? soothing ? idk why it jsut is . best war in game though man . props . awesome vids too .
@Dorrajtheexplorer ye.. is possible.. the paladin's stun is a magic spell, so you can reflect it without problem, same thing for Thunderstorm of shamans.
A good tip I have when dueling a pally is: 1. Pop bloodrage 2. Hit spell reflect right when the duel starts 3. Either the pally will stun himself or be smart and not attack giving you that time to charge in. If he stuns himself and your a prot warrior you'll love this cause he'll be stunned a ton of times.
@vengerad47 I like to add to his comment that most of the duels you're telling us the do's and don'ts of the fights. But I am still hyped about druids if you can get one out there.
nice video + lol at the troll rogue at the end.^^ Anyhow most ret paladins will run to heal, and sometimes you wont be able to catch them. Then they are pretty much full hp so the best thing to do, is waitt till he is after you if you cant catch him then spell reflect and he will either pop a stun or a Judgement which gets reflected. it works alot for me.
warrior versus warlock is just to use ur berserker rage and own them in those 6 or 10 seconds or forgot how long it is, u cant let them charm or fear you or else youd be eating dots and soul fires
Thankyou for clarification. only time i use is it is for the Oh Shit im gonna die times. And i prefer it over Enraged regen because its to damn slow but put them together Last Stand gives me the boost i need to get Enraged regen going.
@lolpwner111 I hope you mean Prot warriors. Cuz arms/fury warriors, you still gotta bust all your cools and stance dance to win, and even that doesn't give you a sure win.
@gaffigantootie yes it does not work against warriors BUT what i do if i have to bobble against warriors is Rep his trow and that gives me enought time for a big heal most of the time
won't a good paladin just repentance the warrior when enraged regen is up to throw himself a phat healz? Berserker rage can't be activated during enraged regeneration. you can always resort to using a /cancelaura Enraged Regeneration /cast Berserker rage macro
You can just do it with a normal spec, you dont HAVE to have last stand to take down good wellgeared rets. It helps ofc, but as long as you use shieldblock and dissarm at the right moments, and use your intercept and charge whenever you can still win without it. Oh, and time your offens, you can come out on top anyhow.
I must as the OP about this spec.. is this just for ret or does this work for other classes too? im eager to start 80 pvp when i hit 80... and would like to have a decent pvp spec :) plz respond
Just for Clarification. Last Stand increases your current and max hp by 30%. When the effect leaves you lose that bonus hp, leaving you with a minimum of 1hp.
and what about a battlemaster trinket? you can use one instead of last stand? or it just dont give you enough regen? its just an idea xD.... tell me what you think
you sir are the first palidin to admit that you are op and i thank you so that.. i can tell that you're not a 15 year old kid with too much time on their hands. like everyone on my server
@alsnanm You are correct my friend. Is is impossible for an Arms Warrior to kill a "good" prot pala. Prot paladins will even destroy Ret paladins in some cases. But if you go Prot instead of Arms, you can win against any class. And i dont care what anyone says, Prot Paladins and Warriors need to be Nerfed, they are crazy OP for Arena
I'm thinking about getting your Trinket Darmoon Card: Death but i'm just curious if once it procs does it have a cooldown until it can proc again and if so how long?
what are those sound clips at the beginning i hear like yoshi's sound from super smash bro's but im curious about the part where its like shut up you something
If this was the 3.2 PTR, then it was the live patch at the time, when seal of command was an RNG proc, instead of a hit on every swing. It would be known to crit for 6-7k regularly on a proc on about a 45% proc rate (with the glyph). That's what made them nerf it. I don't know about dead though. The best alliance paladin on my server uses it.
@lilgoon513yurkin i totally agree with you that paladins were BIG Time OP cause i made some tests on my own as a ret but still,a skilld paladin wont instant stun and pop wings like a noob,so rets were at start class for fun
I wasn't saying that pallies are the only ones who get quick kills. I was saying ppl don't like them because they have strong defensive cooldowns which prevent other ppl from killing them quickly. And I was comparing how rogues and pallies have similar powerful defensive cooldowns, not how hard it is for a warr to beat either of them.
it's more likely the retpaladins dont heal or something like they keep doing the same thing cant they use something like lay on hands when their almost deafeted. :D and ill keep on doing this u do it helped alot tho :D
+Jatix Mamot most of it comes from wow being dumbed down, look at all this shit you had to figure out to beat someone, there is no secret or skill anymore to learn which takes away immersion and fulfilling gameplay
u call that a god he doesn't even cs the holy light men... The pal against him use all his offensive skill under divin shield wish reduce damage from 50%. I love the video tho. Just that you understand it's kinda nooby vid. Good ret pals on wotlk will switch to shield and 1hand to instant heal themself or to handle the stormblade retaliation.
not sure all the hate pallys alwase been op i played this game 4.5 years ago even then they were distructive as hell i could kill them just came back fought a retpally and rocked him to this guy knows his stuff listen to the tutorial its a good one.
You shuild make the ending like " In this video we learned * Allways have ALL cooldowns when duelling a ret paladin* and all that other stuff, just so we can remember it better and look it up faster if we forget or just skip to the end =)
nice strategy against ret pallys, i still play pretty much full arms, love disarming after they use their bubble and or stuns, shooting fish in a barrel.
wtb, Warrior vs all specced DK's, or maybe Warrior vs disc priest(that would be interesting to see perhaps) ps swifty for pres kkthxbai PPS. needs more Aion review updates pl0x
usually what i do is bloodrage before the duel and put on spell reflect and reflect the stun and the charge in get more rage and disarm them then unload on them i almost beat a ret pally with full furious but the used lay on hands and divine shield
bro i miss a finger too =P while my bike wheel was rolling idk why but i get my finger in and crack!........ lol i was 7 yo so i dont remeber very well but i too play KoF lol now im playin wow warrior, btw u rock!
my point is they can wear the armour with the most defense and they can heal, making them pretty much invincible, yes they can be prevented but it takes timing in which skill is required and most people dont have enough skill to do that, no im not saying any class that has a valid form of defence against me is overpowered, just paladins have the best armor, heals, full hp instant heal, basically invincible if they know how to play
i'm playing on private server with warrior..wheres much stuff bugged ...looking at those vids make me think of myself as most low skilled warrior...dks and retardins are overpowered here too..i think actually a warrior should be the class which inflicts most melee dmg since they have no magic stuff at all and i didn't play any other class as warrior for like 4 years and for me its most balanced class and never gets boring, thank u for the guides
Seal of Blood:This ability has been removed. Seal of the Martyr:This ability has been removed. Seal of Vengeance and Seal of Corruption:These seals have been redesigned to deal substantially more damage. Now, once a paladin has 5 copies of the debuff from these seals on his or her target, on each swing the paladin will deal 33% weapon damage as Holy, with critical strikes dealing double damage. In addition, the damage-over-time effect is now considered a melee attack instead of a spell attack.
haha man i was waiting for this one, ret pallies are just crazy right now and warriors are still getting nerfed to hell, you see the new changes to execute and stuff? Anyways, i usually go 1h/shield and disarm when the wings come up, block and spam revenge and reflect but you're right, you lose your rage and your dps stops when u stance dance like and the pally bubbles at low hp, and you're screwed.
Ok, I'll explain it. MS is 50%. Unrelenting Assault reduces a target's healing and spell damage by 50%. So if a healer that has UA heals someone with MS on them, it gets cut in half twice. Half of 100% is 50%, half of 50% is 25%.
It's the ptr. He probably either couldn't get the name, or he made his name different on purpose so people wouldn't bother him like they do on his home server.
anyone one else watching old swifty vids ?
Ofc.
Sorry, I dont speak english very well. Did he said that retpaladins are the most op class in the game?
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@@춥다-z9z thx :3
ofc again, after 2y :D
Those days of wow were golden!
taka e teodore
This is the BEST of all Swifty videos!
Amazing how he can maximeze the class potentioal by fully undertanding the class mechanism.
Go go Swifty!
@Halo5501 Both of those abilities are off the GCD, so it would be a two line cast macro like this.
/cast last stand
/cast enraged regeneration
That will pop both with one button push.
The freaking talent trees... my god I miss these days.
Great talents for every class, wotlk is best exp for sure
Hey Swifty.
In BGs i always avoided Pallys and would NEVER duel one outside SW but i watch this vid yesterday and ive been dueling them constantly and gunning them in BGs cause this vid thought me so much.
If you keep pressure on them alot of the time you dont get completly blown up and ive won far more times than i expected.
Thank you!
5:09 hahah that rogue waiting for someone to loose
xD
This swifty is epic.
@MrEmme94 It's just a graphic error that's always been around and only appears that way for you. It happens sometimes when you're strafing one direction and then immediately start strafing the opposite way.
i like to listen to your videos when im doing something w/e else . idk your voice is soo ... relaxing ? soothing ? idk why it jsut is . best war in game though man . props . awesome vids too .
@Dorrajtheexplorer ye.. is possible.. the paladin's stun is a magic spell, so you can reflect it without problem, same thing for Thunderstorm of shamans.
that nostalgia
A good tip I have when dueling a pally is:
1. Pop bloodrage
2. Hit spell reflect right when the duel starts
3. Either the pally will stun himself or be smart and not attack giving you that time to charge in.
If he stuns himself and your a prot warrior you'll love this cause he'll be stunned a ton of times.
A comment from a simpler time
@@SPZ909 lmao, this comment of mine is so old. Definitely was a simpler time back then.
Love that troll at the end that killed the ret paly you were attacking =D
Omg i miss wow so much quit couple of months ago and had a 80 dk and roled a 70 war cause of swifty ty man , still subscribed to ure awesome vids!
@vengerad47 I like to add to his comment that most of the duels you're telling us the do's and don'ts of the fights. But I am still hyped about druids if you can get one out there.
@noblesbee its called enraged regeneration it heals like 30% of your total health over 12 seconds or something.
nice video + lol at the troll rogue at the end.^^
Anyhow most ret paladins will run to heal, and sometimes you wont be able to catch them. Then they are pretty much full hp so the best thing to do, is waitt till he is after you if you cant catch him then spell reflect and he will either pop a stun or a Judgement which gets reflected. it works alot for me.
awsome duels!!!! plz do more. love the game but cant afford it.
im not a war but i keep watching your vids theyre so entertaining lol
@pvticetea600 Yeap, also hand of protection and ice block. You should always read ability tooltips :)
Great Video. Can you give out some tips vs Prot pallies?
5:08 one guy said
"swifty is reall"
this was cool :D
Perfect tutorial for war-ret GJ:) but the backround musc was abit high:P keen them coming swifty:D
"My CD's arent ready yet, GO AWAY!" haha :P
dem beautiful moonwalks
very nice :) starting to miss my warrior watching your vids ^^
It's on the 3.2 ptr, where seal of blood/martyr was removed and ppl were trying out the new seal of vengeance as the new dps seal.
very nice video swifty. and was that yoshi getting yelled at during the first 30 secs?
warrior versus warlock is just to use ur berserker rage and own them in those 6 or 10 seconds or forgot how long it is, u cant let them charm or fear you or else youd be eating dots and soul fires
Ret paladins in 3.1 PTR was it? Were really ridiculous with their bonus to sacred shield for extra healing. A really hard class to counter in duels.
wow i thought id never see the day a warrior would be a ret paladin in this expansion
Thankyou for clarification. only time i use is it is for the Oh Shit im gonna die times. And i prefer it over Enraged regen because its to damn slow but put them together Last Stand gives me the boost i need to get Enraged regen going.
@greenday9090
Not anymore, this was during WotLK, all of what you just described is gone now.
@lolpwner111 I hope you mean Prot warriors. Cuz arms/fury warriors, you still gotta bust all your cools and stance dance to win, and even that doesn't give you a sure win.
Preparing myself for some WotLK PvP action
@gaffigantootie yes it does not work against warriors BUT what i do if i have to bobble against warriors is Rep his trow and that gives me enought time for a big heal most of the time
wow that was great. even i a ret paladin my self im impressed well done i may be rolling warrior soon due to the pallys being a bit to easy to play
@ITIT1337 You remind me of a Undead Mage who gose by the name (Fission)
Is this going to be a repeat of what happen to (Fission) ?
awesome video, Swifty. Those tutorial videos really rule, keep up the good work :)
@Troxplayas he was on ptr in this video. he's playing on Darkspear US
won't a good paladin just repentance the warrior when enraged regen is up to throw himself a phat healz? Berserker rage can't be activated during enraged regeneration.
you can always resort to using a
/cancelaura Enraged Regeneration
/cast Berserker rage
macro
GG man!..ur really owning:O..Im glad there are true warriors who's spirit never dies!..For the ALLIANCE!
great video swity, keep up the good work
You can just do it with a normal spec, you dont HAVE to have last stand to take down good wellgeared rets. It helps ofc, but as long as you use shieldblock and dissarm at the right moments, and use your intercept and charge whenever you can still win without it. Oh, and time your offens, you can come out on top anyhow.
I must as the OP about this spec.. is this just for ret or does this work for other classes too? im eager to start 80 pvp when i hit 80... and would like to have a decent pvp spec :) plz respond
Your videos make me want to start a warrior character:-)
Just for Clarification.
Last Stand increases your current and max hp by 30%. When the effect leaves you lose that bonus hp, leaving you with a minimum of 1hp.
No it doesn’t
and what about a battlemaster trinket?
you can use one instead of last stand? or it just dont give you enough regen?
its just an idea xD.... tell me what you think
you sir are the first palidin to admit that you are op and i thank you so that.. i can tell that you're not a 15 year old kid with too much time on their hands. like everyone on my server
@alsnanm You are correct my friend.
Is is impossible for an Arms Warrior to kill a "good" prot pala. Prot paladins will even destroy Ret paladins in some cases.
But if you go Prot instead of Arms, you can win against any class.
And i dont care what anyone says, Prot Paladins and Warriors need to be Nerfed, they are crazy OP for Arena
Very nice video swifty, I didn't think there was a way for a warrior to kill a decent retributon paladin.
ahhhhh.... back in those days paladins were fun and i still played
I'm thinking about getting your Trinket Darmoon Card: Death but i'm just curious if once it procs does it have a cooldown until it can proc again and if so how long?
what are those sound clips at the beginning i hear like yoshi's sound from super smash bro's but im curious about the part where its like shut up you something
If this was the 3.2 PTR, then it was the live patch at the time, when seal of command was an RNG proc, instead of a hit on every swing. It would be known to crit for 6-7k regularly on a proc on about a 45% proc rate (with the glyph). That's what made them nerf it.
I don't know about dead though. The best alliance paladin on my server uses it.
@lilgoon513yurkin i totally agree with you that paladins were BIG Time OP cause i made some tests on my own as a ret but still,a skilld paladin wont instant stun and pop wings like a noob,so rets were at start class for fun
....swifty...I thank you with all my (chars) heart.... I had lost all hope for blizz till i saw this video...
THANKS MAN i been looking for this thanks.
I wasn't saying that pallies are the only ones who get quick kills. I was saying ppl don't like them because they have strong defensive cooldowns which prevent other ppl from killing them quickly. And I was comparing how rogues and pallies have similar powerful defensive cooldowns, not how hard it is for a warr to beat either of them.
@jcasher2010 I completely forgot about the forberance on LoH now. They needed that imo. No reason to have 3 lives.
I lvoe ur tutorials!
I love your Stratic's DONT ever stop play wow
it's more likely the retpaladins dont heal or something like they keep doing the same thing cant they use something like lay on hands when their almost deafeted. :D and ill keep on doing this u do it helped alot tho :D
PRE- CATACLYSM QUESTION :
As far as damage output in PvP, Would a paladin or a Death knight , which one's better? (Pre-Cata)
lol did he edithed the sounds in the first duel or is that an addon? oO
when swofty was a god...
+HitupLoraine You do realize that wow went to shit and pretty much the pvp is nothing like old times.
+Jatix Mamot most of it comes from wow being dumbed down, look at all this shit you had to figure out to beat someone, there is no secret or skill anymore to learn which takes away immersion and fulfilling gameplay
actually there, it's just changed a lot
u call that a god he doesn't even cs the holy light men... The pal against him use all his offensive skill under divin shield wish reduce damage from 50%. I love the video tho. Just that you understand it's kinda nooby vid. Good ret pals on wotlk will switch to shield and 1hand to instant heal themself or to handle the stormblade retaliation.
@FinalFantasyBlades
So Swifty's videos went straight over your head?
not sure all the hate pallys alwase been op
i played this game 4.5 years ago even then they were distructive as hell i could kill them
just came back fought a retpally and rocked him to
this guy knows his stuff listen to the tutorial its a good one.
You shuild make the ending like " In this video we learned * Allways have ALL cooldowns when duelling a ret paladin* and all that other stuff, just so we can remember it better and look it up faster if we forget or just skip to the end
=)
@leebmc all i have to say is HAND OF FREEDOM (removes all movement impairing and slowing effects)
well what do you think... what kind of damage does judgement, exorcism and 5 stacks of seal of vengeance do???
@berzekeer ehh? arp has been nerfed, and most of the time u need recklessness, ms and bladestorm to actually kill a healer
TskGamer, you're right warriors take a lot of skill to play, and a lot more skill to master and survive against some of the classes now.
dueling a ret pala for me has always been brute force vs brute force. and i lose almost every time....
thanks for the tips
As a warrior i start off in Defencive stance then use Spell reflect that way they will stun them selfs trying to get that hammer off
why are you shaking with the mouse?
cause it looks "cool" or does it have a purpose?
Back when Swifty vids were so good. SImple and great
any tips on arena talent build against ret pala's? but also handy against other classes too?
Swifty nice to see ya owning it up =)
The paladin cast holy ligth , omg Shild bash?
Rets back then had 4 attacks. A normal strike, an aoe, and two ranged and they all hit like a goddamn truck.
None of the pallys used Repentance, which I think is really weird.
now we're here in WLK classic and I find myself on this video once more. Lol
nice strategy against ret pallys, i still play pretty much full arms, love disarming after they use their bubble and or stuns, shooting fish in a barrel.
wtb, Warrior vs all specced DK's, or maybe Warrior vs disc priest(that would be interesting to see perhaps)
ps swifty for pres kkthxbai
PPS. needs more Aion review updates pl0x
usually what i do is bloodrage before the duel and put on spell reflect and reflect the stun and the charge in get more rage and disarm them then unload on them i almost beat a ret pally with full furious but the used lay on hands and divine shield
he is the real swifty, this is on the PTR, and the name Swifty was already taken.
@ZachF3R did you duel mage/priest/lock/feral/enhancment? good players of course not some scrubs
bro i miss a finger too =P while my bike wheel was rolling idk why but i get my finger in and crack!........ lol i was 7 yo so i dont remeber very well but i too play KoF lol now im playin wow warrior, btw u rock!
my point is they can wear the armour with the most defense and they can heal, making them pretty much invincible, yes they can be prevented but it takes timing in which skill is required and most people dont have enough skill to do that, no im not saying any class that has a valid form of defence against me is overpowered, just paladins have the best armor, heals, full hp instant heal, basically invincible if they know how to play
i'm playing on private server with warrior..wheres much stuff bugged ...looking at those vids make me think of myself as most low skilled warrior...dks and retardins are overpowered here too..i think actually a warrior should be the class which inflicts most melee dmg since they have no magic stuff at all
and i didn't play any other class as warrior for like 4 years and for me its most balanced class and never gets boring, thank u for the guides
Seal of Blood:This ability has been removed.
Seal of the Martyr:This ability has been removed.
Seal of Vengeance and Seal of Corruption:These seals have been redesigned to deal substantially more damage. Now, once a paladin has 5 copies of the debuff from these seals on his or her target, on each swing the paladin will deal 33% weapon damage as Holy, with critical strikes dealing double damage. In addition, the damage-over-time effect is now considered a melee attack instead of a spell attack.
haha man i was waiting for this one, ret pallies are just crazy right now and warriors are still getting nerfed to hell, you see the new changes to execute and stuff? Anyways, i usually go 1h/shield and disarm when the wings come up, block and spam revenge and reflect but you're right, you lose your rage and your dps stops when u stance dance like and the pally bubbles at low hp, and you're screwed.
jajjaja el trol picaro que aparece en lo ultimo del video epic xd ajajajaj
Yes it stacks. To get UA on a target they have to be casting. Druids tend to just spam dots. So chances are, you couldn't get a UA on him.
Ok, I'll explain it. MS is 50%. Unrelenting Assault reduces a target's healing and spell damage by 50%. So if a healer that has UA heals someone with MS on them, it gets cut in half twice. Half of 100% is 50%, half of 50% is 25%.
It's the ptr. He probably either couldn't get the name, or he made his name different on purpose so people wouldn't bother him like they do on his home server.
Switfy's videos were so good back then, what happend?
play wow. Nothing for him to do. SUre he could have did updated tutorials cuz classes change like every 2 seconds but..
Lol at the troll killing the paladins after the duel at the end :D