Kid Buu may not have been the strongest Buu. But the manga calls him "the most dangerous" due to his unpredictability, relentlessness and wild fighting style. Kid Buu has the ability to learn moves just by watching it done once (instant transmission). He can regenerate faster than his other forms. He appears to be quicker and crazier than the others. Say what you will, but Kid Buu is far more entertaining to watch fight than the other Buu's. And he's the only villain that successfully destroyed earth. His planet buster was so powerful that it had both Vegeta and Goku running only to be saved by Kabito Kai at the last minute. His power level is a mystery. Some believe Kid Buu was never serious against SS3 Goku and suppressed his full power during the fight. Others don't believe that and consider Base Super Buu to be greater in strength. We will never truly know who was stronger, as nothing official was stated in the manga. But nothing changes the fact that Kid Buu was an awesome and merciless villain.
Falso, young lad. When did the other Buus learn instant transmission just by sensing the user using it? The Kamehameha, sure. But almost everyone knows that move, lol. And Super Buu used the moves of those he absorbed. He never used moves that he saw. Only absorbed moves. Fat Buu learned the kamehameha, but that's a small feat.
Kid Buu doesnt nearly have the power level that super buu has. BUT, unlike the other buu forms he does not loose energy, get worn down or tired, and regenerates the quickest. And mix that with his insanity level and you have the most DANGEROUS form of buu. Not the strongest.
@@nicolocadamuro9988 Nope, not at all. SSJ3 Goku could go head to head with Kid Buu, but they needed the far stronger SSJ3 fusion and Gohan with his potential unraveled to fight Super Buu.
For everyone that doesn't know... Ultimate Buu (Gohan absorbed)>Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed)>Super Buu>Kid Buu>Majin Buu If you want to argue with me, go for it.
Umm well kidd buu is stronger if you go by the anime kabokai said to goku andvegeta how are you planning on beating majin buu in his pResent state is more powerful then ever. Meaning hes stronger then super buu
Super Buu and Kid Buu are the same being, except Super Buu is bigger taller more muscular, smarter and stronger than kid Buu is, so the Super Buu form is an extension to Kid Buu’s evolved being.
@@KenyionDouglas kid buu isn't stronger. Gotenks couldn't beat super buu. And he was far stronger than goku. So goku would have been swept by kid buu. But he wasn't. He was somewhat equal to him.
@@KenyionDouglas depends, if you are talking about the original Super Buu they are equal or slightly stronger than Kid Buu, but if you are talking about Buutenks or Buuhan, Kid Buu get Rekt
Why do people keep saying Kid Buu is more dangerous but Super Buu is stronger. I don't care about these two statements I just want to know who would win in a death match. Fighting to death who would win? In my opinion I say Kid Buu.
The Rock kid buu will win against base super buu in a death match also ss3 goku said kid buu is twice as strong as super while he fought kid buu as a ss3. Super buu is only stronger than kid buu because when he absorbs he gain power while kids buu power decreases
+NovaTroll93 Thanks for agreeing, People kid buu is stronger bacause he is insane and everything but Kid buu is about the same strength as a ssj3 goku if not a bit stronger, whereas Super Buu is around the same strength as ssj3 gotenks which is stronger than Goku, then theres Buutenks who pretty much beat Ssj3 goku without trying and buuhan and who gave so much problems until vegito stepped in,
+Mark Peters Whoa Whoa Whoa. I'd like to know what manga you're reading. If you're reading Multiverse than you should know it's basically fanfiction. Akira Toriyama's manga the best thing Goku ever said about Kid Buu is that he's stronger than he originally expected but he could still kill him if he had time to gather his strength. Gohan Buu > Gotenks Buu > Buff Buu > Piccolo Buu = Super Buu > Kid Buu > Majin Buu > Pure Evil Majin Buu > Good Buu
The fact that Goku even considers fusing with Mr. Satan before fighting Super Buu, but gladly took Kid Buu on 1v1 is the nail in the coffin for this debate.
Kid Buu is stronger. Goku:"Darn you, where's your weak point. You're twice as strong as you were before. Your speed and power." Your arguments of super Buu being stronger is invalid.
Goku said that because his regeneration plus most likely a dubbed error, second Goku stated that he couldn't beat Duper Buu even at Super Saiyan 3, Goku was stronger than kid buu it's just Kid Buu kept wearing his stamina down
Apex Mercer kid buu is stronger then super buu(without anyone absorbed) he could have beat buu with piccolo absorbed even goku implied it “you don’t plan to beat me like that do you?”
Dian cap cap cap cap. Super Buu stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is actually Buu’s weaker forms. Just cuz Kid Buu is the original form don’t mean he the strongest
@@KenyionDouglas I dont get it , when goku was inside of buu and took off the pods of the others he told vegeta he cant just go fight super buu he is still stronger even with ssj 3 but goku and vegeta fought kid buu in ssj2 for a bit without getting rekt .
@@MajinMist603 Kid Buu was toying with him he let him get hits on him they was not doing any damage if Kid Buu fought seriously Goku won't land a hit on him so Kid Buu is the Strongest
so in your sense , If kid buu is the strongest , so ssj 3 goku also should be stronger than ssj vegito , ? that is too confusing they needed vegito to fuse against buuhan@@KenyionDouglas even against buutenks too gohan needed to fuse with goku to beat him they needed gogeta to use against base super buu goku states that even base super buu can beat two of them easily ( also gohan could beat super buu cuz he was the strongest Unfused character in buu arc while ssj 3 goku fought evenly with kid buu so it's clear that buuhan's the strongest buu ever
Saying Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is the same as saying Kim Jong Un stronger than prime Mike Tyson Mike Tyson is stronger Kim Jong Un in terms of physical strength, but Kim Jong Un is more dangerous due to his possession of nuclear power. But we're talking about Dragon Ball here, so yeah...
veigeto>buuhan>buutenks>gohan mystic>gotenks ssj3>buu picollo + kidds>buu piccolo>super boo>>>>>>kidd buu = goku ssj3 =>fat buu>vegeta THATS ALL END OF THE DISCUSS BATTLE OF GOD IS A SHIT NON CANON HERE IS THE TORYAMA WILL ! and super boo is stornger than kidd buu !
Scott Warnick if kid was stronger why did goku use fusion against super buu but not kid buu and they had a chance to use the fusion again but goku said they won't need it because he was sure he could beat kid buu he only had a hard time because he wanted vegeta to get a shot.
Super Boo is far stronger than just Good Boo + Evil Boo. By an area of around 10x stronger to be an even match for SSJ3 Gotenks. The breaking of the solid connection of the Goob Boo pod caused a reaction in Boo which forced his body to reset itself to its default state. Which explains the appearance of the form and power gain of the Buff Boo, followed by the added transformation and power reduction into the original Kid Boo form.
uh, I'm pretty sure that Super Buu combined with Kid Buu wouldn't be enough to defeat SSJ Gogeta, Mystic Gohan is stronger than both Kid Buu and Super Buu Gogeta has about 50% power of Vegito. Vegito easily destroyed Super Buu combined with Gohan which is stronger than Kid Buu+Super Buu, Gogeta should win that battle due to the fact Vegito wasn't using 100% power against Buuhan (Maybe even less than 75%) so Gogeta should win against Super Buu, Kid Buu absorbed.
Actually Kid Buu is the most powerful of all the Buus. Think of it this way,when any of the Buus absorb somebody, it takes all of the strength that Buu has and all the strength the other people he's absorbed strength, and divides by the number of people. so if he absorbs a weaker person he becomes weaker,rather than stronger.(this was explained in the show,but not with exact percentages etc,i made those up to make the point)
Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu, but the difference is not very large because Kid Buu only needs to absorb the south KaiohShin to become stronger than him. Super Buu Gohan > Super Buu Gotenks > Kid Buu south Kaioshin > Super Buu Picolo > Super Buu > Kid Buu > Evil Buu > Fat Buu
All the people that says kid buy is stronger is wrong! Kid buu = ssj3 goku Ssj1 gotenks = ssj3 goku/kid buu Ssj3 gotenks = super buu The chart shows that kid buu is DRASICLY weaker than super buu.
Fat buu + evil buu = super buu Super buu - fat buu = kid buu ??? Goku said the kid buu was twice as strong as he was before meaning kid buu = 2x super buu
That has no logic. And that was said in the English dub, in the Japanese version goku said that he was the most dangerous because all he wanted to do is destruction and super buu didnt because he was smarter. Also, goku didnt fight with super buu, he doesnt know his power level
Evil buu + fat buu= evil buu has full control over the body and is more evil than good. Fat buu removed From the body = kid buu nothing holding his destructive power back including common sense. Kid buu> super buu
Why does everyone think thats kid buu is stronger than super buu here it is: Buuhan>Super Buu>Kid Buu>Evil/Grey Buu>Fat Buu P.S. This (the video) Is fake!
listen to kabito Kai's story about kid buu. Each Kai buu absorbed made him less evil because of the goodness ,pure hearts that the Kai's had. Notice how each one of buu's forms were different from kid buu. Kid buu is the most ruthless ,and the most evil form of buu. I guess that's why kabito Kai was tripping out
Super Buu is definitely stronger than Kid Buu. But Kid Buu`s regeneration ability may be greater than Super Buu`s. He seems to be able to regenerate with allot less effort. Plus it took a big ass spirit bomb to kill him. I think Super Buu would win but I think it would be closer than you think.
Kid Buu is stronger than both Super Buu and Goku. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7 Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…” Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…” Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo. Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system. During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw.
Which one destroyed the earth? KB all day. Super is too egotistical, just like Cell. ...wasn’t planning on commenting and then that dbz nostalgia overflowed; nice video.
Proof that super buu is AT LEAST 8x kid buu: Goku had faith that ssj1 gotenks is enough to beat fat buu, so ssj1 gotenks>=ssj3 Goku. Post HTC, ssj1 gotenks>>ssj3 Goku. Ssj3=8x ssj1. Ssj3 gotenks>> 8x Ssj3 Goku. Ssj3 gotenks fought on par against super buu. And Ssj3 Goku said he could of beat kid buu at full power if he did not drag out he fight.
Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu and Goku. Why would Toriyama weaken a villain for no reason when he has never done that especially for a final battle? When Frieza reached his final form: Kuririn: "Is that Frieza's final form, huh? It looks weak to me" Goku: "you are Frieza? You are smaller than I thought" When Cell reached final form: Vegeta: hahaha so much for long promised completion....he shrunk When Kid Buu reached final form: Vegeta: "hehehe look he's a midget" Goku: "haha we did it he ain't shit now we can beat him" Can't you even notice a pattern? Characters in DB are guilty of mistaking their opponents off size. If his Ki went down why don't they talk about it but only his size? Why would the Kaioshins want them to fuse against an even weaker Buu? Makes no fucking sense. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7 Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…” Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…” Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo. Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system. During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw.
Encasing Boo in the ball was a spell. Releasing him was also a spell. Official manga shows kai even saying at first the energy used in the process had killed Boo, before he smoke even formed into fat boo. Meaning the energy has a different purpose than being supplied as Boo's power. Again, you cannot display the power of a form until AFTER the form has been reached. The Buff Boo form was Buff Boo's power. And they made fun of his size, They never would have even tried to fight if he was still
You're not comprehending. Vegito's ki alone may not be enough to form a full powered SB, but he'd still "clean Buu's clock" as Old Kai said, even decimate him completely with a strong enough blast. The spirit bomb has never worked in DBZ before until against Buu. That means the bulk of SB's power came from the young Z fighters along with the world containing a hell of a lot more kick than the earlier ones which is why it worked once it engulfed Buu.
No. Kid Buu has the power of nobody, he is pure evil. Kid Buu has his own powers. Super Buu was weakend by the influence of the kais, stop forgetting that. Why would Toriyama weaken a villain for no reason when he has never done that especially for a final battle? When Frieza reached his final form: Kuririn: "Is that Frieza's final form, huh? It looks weak to me" Goku: "you are Frieza? You are smaller than I thought" When Cell reached final form: Vegeta: hahaha so much for long promised completion....he shrunk When Kid Buu reached final form: Vegeta: "hehehe look he's a midget" Goku: "haha we did it he ain't shit now we can beat him" Can't you even notice a pattern? Characters in DB are guilty of mistaking their opponents off size. If his Ki went down why don't they talk about it but only his size? Why would the Kaioshins want them to fuse against an even weaker Buu? Makes no fucking sense. Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7 Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…” Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…” Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo. Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system. During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw
@@dizeated6613 Nah Super Buu is stronger. Simple put Goku and Vegeta felt they could defeat kid buu without needing the fusion. While against superbuu Goku felt like he had no choice but to fuse.
@@JailBr3ak3r77 they couldn’t fuse to beat kid Buu they didn’t have the earrings and let’s not forget even super Buu was scared when gold removed fat Buu from within him because he knew Kid Buu would come back Kid Buu is the purest and most powerful form
@@finalhazard883 I like Kid Buu cause he's pure evil and destructive and like he was practically indestructible when fighting Vegeta, Good Buu, and Goku
Gonna be real. Super Buu would destroy Kid Buu. Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks would have also mauled SSJ3 Goku at the time. If you gave me a choice between walking into a room with the Joker or with Bane I pick Bane. Not because he is weaker, but because the other guy is so much more unhinged. That is what made Kid Buu more dangerous than Super Buu.
Wouldnt say not a challenge. But definitely cut Boos power down to around 10% of what Super Boo had. Its hard to say where Evil Boo is at, because not only did the manga mention that the evil inside Fat Boo grew greatly, but we don't know what the exact division in their power was, Only that Evil Boo got the larger chunk. The way i put it in my SlamscapeDBZ video was Fet Boos max power grew larger and divided so that Evil Boo was somewhere around the Fat Boo power, and rest went to Good Boo.
Goku admitted he could've destroyed kid buu from the start if he used his full power. Instead, he held back in order to have a good fight and to give Vegeta a chance however he didn't realize how draining ssj3 was on a living body so when he tried to go to full power it was too late and he had no stamina left to do it. However, Goku against Super Buu said many times the Super Buu would tear them apart even with SSJ3. heck, the first thing he did was suggesting fusing again unlike when he fought kid buu when he destroyed the earings, and the idea of fusing all together showing that he was confident in holding his own against kid buu much more so than super buu. Oh also about Gotenks. He was able to hold SSJ3 much better than Goku was due to his body being a fusion body and was stated in the Japanese dub of the show that due to Gotenks being a fusion body he could hold and use SSJ3 at full power much easier than Goku could. Technically we never saw Goku once use SSJ3 truly at full power so it is hard to scale where he is at however personally I feel that Gotenks at SSJ3 FP is around equal to full power SSJ3 Goku however Gotenks has a much easier time due to being able to hold ssj3 much easier than Goku. Also for those saying that Gotenks beat Super Buu. No, he didn't. Rewatch the Ultimate Gohan vs Buu fight and Super Buu literally admits that he held back against Gotenks and instead was stalling for time and waiting for Gohan to arrive. Buu was literally fighting Gotenks just to occupy him before Gohan arrived. However, he bit off more than he could chew and Gohan ended up much stronger than he thought. After all that though, Kid Buu does have a couple of quirks over Super Buu being much more torturous, sadistic, and dangerous since unlike Super Buu he doesn't mess around and instead gets to the point, an example being when he destroyed the planet instantly after he was reborn. Also, Kid Buu has been shown to have better regeneration abilities than every other Buu. Finally here is a little theory I have about Kid Buu. The reason why he never tries to absorb Goku or Vegeta is that on a subconscious level he is scared to absorb again ever since what happened when he absorbed the Kais when he became Fat Buu. Super Buu doesn't care for that as he technically is what kid buu became from absorbing the Kais (Though he had to go through some effort to become the way he wanted) and so Super Buu actually enjoys absorbing people as he enjoys having intelligence and power and even a little innocence as he is what became of all that the first time so why would he not want more?
@Dian Also Fat Buu before splitting was technically stronger than kid Buu however he was unable to access the additional Kai's power due to the Dai Kaio's goodness surpressing Buu's power and evil nature which in turn made him weaker. Super Buu is literally Buu's evil taking majority control of the Kai's power and interlect alongside his own however it is revealed soon later that even the Evil within Buu didn't have 100 % control since he still doesn't kill Mr Satan due to retaining good memory's of his time with him and also Super Buu unlike kid buu didn't really torture his opponents and instead got them killed quickly if they seemed like a waste of time where as kid buu intentionally holds back especially against Vegeta just for torture and satisfaction until he is bored. Also I know this might seem mad but it makes much more sense in the long haul for Super Buu to be stronger than Kid Buu. What would be the point of Kid Buu absorbing the Kai's if he didn't get stronger? Also did you not notice how Goku was always against beating Super Buu in a 1v1 and always stated that he would be killed yet against kid Buu he was really up to fight kid buu? Since when does Goku back down from a fight? Yes there are contradictions saying that Kid Buu was the most powerful Buu but that doesn't match previous statements or make much sense as it would then make kid Buu's absorbtions when fighting the Kai's or when fighting Vegito and Gohan pointless if it made him weaker and but it was Toriyama who wrote this and he's literally known for forgetting stuff so he probs confused himself writing Kid Buu. Also side note - notice how after kid buu has been reborn Vegeta is much more confident in taking him down which would make no sense if Buu's power had gone up stating that "he's totally puny" which obviously could be referring to his size but also could be referring to his power in comparison to Super Buu. But Vegeta didn't expect Kid Buu to be though weaker, much more torturous and pure evil going straight to blowing up the planet 😂 Overall I get why some people think kid buu is the strongest Buu however based on what we have already seen from Buu and heard from other characters it makes literally 0 sense. Kid Buu though does he the best regeneration ability out of all the Buu's due to being Pure Buu as shown in the time he takes to regenerate in the manga and in the anime.
@Dian What about when Kid buu abosrbed the South Supreme Kai? and If that made him weaker why would he continue to absorb the Grand Supreme Kai? Also like I said before, the evidence for Super Buu being stronger than kid buu is in the majority. ( I get your point about Vegeta tho)
@Dian Goku even admitted he could've destroyed kid buu from the start if he used his full power. Instead, he held back in order to have a good fight and to give Vegeta a chance however he didn't realize how draining ssj3 was on a living body so when he tried to go to full power it was too late and he had no stamina left to do it. However, Goku against Super Buu said many times the Super Buu would tear them apart even with SSJ3. heck, the first thing he did was suggesting fusing again unlike when he fought kid buu when he destroyed the earings, and the idea of fusing all together showing that he was confident in holding his own against kid buu much more so than super buu. Oh also about Gotenks. He was able to hold SSJ3 much better than Goku was due to his body being a fusion body and was stated in the Japanese dub of the show that due to Gotenks being a fusion body he could hold and use SSJ3 at full power much easier than Goku could. Technically we never saw Goku once use SSJ3 truly at full power so it is hard to scale where he is at however personally I feel that Gotenks at SSJ3 FP is around equal to full power SSJ3 Goku however Gotenks has a much easier time due to being able to hold ssj3 much easier than Goku. Also for those saying that Gotenks beat Super Buu. No, he didn't. Rewatch the Ultimate Gohan vs Buu fight and Super Buu literally admits that he held back against Gotenks and instead was stalling for time and waiting for Gohan to arrive. Buu was literally fighting Gotenks just to occupy him before Gohan arrived. However, he bit off more than he could chew and Gohan ended up much stronger than he thought. After all that though, Kid Buu does have a couple of quirks over Super Buu being much more torturous, sadistic, and dangerous since unlike Super Buu he doesn't mess around and instead gets to the point, an example being when he destroyed the planet instantly after he was reborn. Also, Kid Buu has been shown to have better regeneration abilities than every other Buu. Finally here is a little theory I have about Kid Buu. The reason why he never tries to absorb Goku or Vegeta is that on a subconscious level he is scared to absorb again ever since what happened when he absorbed the Kais when he became Fat Buu. Super Buu doesn't care for that as he technically is what kid buu became from absorbing the Kais (Though he had to go through some effort to become the way he wanted) and so Super Buu actually enjoys absorbing people as he enjoys having intelligence and power and even a little innocence as he is what became of all that the first time so why would he not want more?
No that part i understand and agree with. Its the part about true character and bravery. As we seen cowards and people with poor character have decent power levels. And that part about Kai was funny since it was only like at most 5 minutes later that he teleported to the planet. Which the claim of running out of energy is also funny since there was another healer right next to him.
Simple fact. Kid buu will win against any buu. Kid Buu has unlimited health, stamina, regeneration, and power. Also, the only way to kill kid Buu, is by using 100% pure energy, like the spirit bomb for example. Super Buu has more power, ability, and knowledge, but all his status is limited. Every fighter, buu absorbs, will make him stronger, more powerfull, and skilled, but it will also grant buu the weakness of every absorbed fighter, and it will limit buu status completely. Kid buu death can only be done with 100% pure energy. Super buu death can be done with (less > 100% pure energy). Kid buu > Any Buu(that absorbed)
Vegeta said "should". Goku said he CAN given he would be able to power up. In either case they were able to try, while goku didnt even want to attempt to face super buu without fusion.
Keep in mind Boos body is basically puddy. It can get damaged much easier than vegeta. I said the didnt appear to be interested in avoiding it. It was like a half hear ted attempt to get out of the way and didnt care when it did hit him. Anime fillers are useless. Vegeta was clearly unable to even recover from the hits before he got attacked more, while Good Boo actually did get hits in while loosing power as a result of fighting another Boo. Which manga is clear that he can get hurt from.
Adrian, I have met many people who believe that the people forced Akira Toriyama to bring back Goku as the main character. It is true that after Cell saga, Akira intended to have Gohan be the main character. In the Kanzenshuu website, they had an interview which clearly states Akira personally felt as if Gohan was not suited to be the main character. Akira didn't get that vibe from Gohan like Goku gives off as a main character. Also Super Buu absorbed Gohan or Gotenks is far above Kid buu. But Super Buu base with no absorption is weaker than Kid buu. For people who say Super Buu's power increased because he went Buff and then he went way down after Kid buu appeared are mistaken. First of all, all the Kaioshin are weaker than SSJ1 Goku, seeing how no one was able to pull out the Z sword, yet SSJ 1 Gohan was able to do it and he is weaker than SSJ1 Goku. Also, he looked SSJ2 in the Anime but he was in fact SSJ1 in the manga when he pulled out the Z sword. So SSJ1 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Kaioshin. Another evidence is when Supreme Kai was afraid to fight Pui Pui and Vegeta in Base destroyed him easily, clearly showing Vegeta base is far above Supreme kai. Since south Kai is the strongest kai known, he might be stronger than Vegeta and Goku base but not their SSJ1 form as proven above. Also all the Kaioshin are a weakness to Buu, when he absorbed the South Kai, he became a little weaker but he was still out of control. When he absorbed the good Dai Kaioshin. That is when his power decreased drastically and he became controllable. I also know the Manga didn't state that South Kai made Kid buu a little weaker but at the same time, it didn't state he got stronger after absorbing him. Since the Kaioshin are a weakness to Buu, why would absorbing South Kai make him stronger? Even Vegito unfused after entering Buu's body when he took down his defense because of the potara earrings. Another proof is when Dabura was first introduced, he clearly states that they can't use the energy of Supreme Kai and Kabito, since they are kais. But he did say "we can use the others". If someone brings up the debate of the Kai's being too weak so that is why Dabura ignored them are incorrect. Seeing how Dabura considered Krillin and Picoolo as potential energy they can get, and they are weaker than Supreme Kai. So yeah, please understand that the Kai's are a weakness to Buu. South Kai couldn't have made Kid Buu stronger. He Either stayed the same strength or got a little weaker. When Kid buu finally appeared, not once was it stated his power dropped. Goku and Vegeta simply underestimated Kid buu because of his size, and they stated that multiple times when fighting him. Goku also suggested bringing Gohan and Gotenks to help him out during the fight when the Earth and all of the people in it were brought back to life. So yeah, Goku suggesting that idea of Gohan and Gotenks helping him out clearly shows us Kid Buu is the real deal, he didn't say just Gohan or just Gotenks, but both of them. Kid boo is not the strongest Buu, but he is the strongest UNFUSED Buu. Also if Kid buu were to ever return, Goku decided he would train to stop him, if Gohan and Gotenks could take care of Kid Buu, there wouldn't be much of a problem then, but that wasn't the case. So yeah, Super Buu absorbed Gohan or Gotenks is stronger than Kid buu, but Super Buu base is weaker. Before answering, please make sure you read this carefully cause I don't want to repeat myself.
>Vegeta tells them that "Despite their size", they're still dangerous in the case of the Cell Jr's. Vegeta (as well as Son)completely underestimated Buu because of his size.. >It was never really shown in the manga of Buu's buff transformation after absorbing South Kai. So no one can say that that's an effect of absorbing him.Where's the scan that said "They sensed a massive power increase". Goku stated "I wish he would stop" via Buu's continuous, ear splitting scream. And Why would he revert back into his skinnier, original self if removing Fat Buu when him becoming Fat Buu wasn't due to South Kai?Also, Buu stopped the Genkai Dama for goodness sake. With Gohan's energy it...
Vegeta blatantly wondering why they're so powerful despite their *size* media.animevice.com/uploads/2/29606/551451-db34pg159.jpg The whole Buu vs Kid Buu is quite confusing to be honest. Thank you for being a mature debater unlike a handful of RUclipsrs.
i am so glad theyre are people that understand that both kais weaken kid buu, a kais energy cant be used by others. it cant be used for evil or be corrupted. its like how only gods can sense another gods ki. kid buu is in fact stronger then super buu. people bring up what goku said as theyre only defense but many feel goku didn't want to use ssj3 unless he had no other choice and doing a fusion dance was the much safer bet. he also knew ssj3 would take a little bit of time to transform and super buu would have killed him before. goku simply was playing safe at that point.
wait if supream ki said that super buu is going bck to his origanal form but kid buu is his origanal form that means they would be at the same power,speed,mind,techneck (HOW DO YOU SPELL IT AND STUFF) last but no least spirit
dark buu>super baby vegeta>>baby vegeta> majuub>buuhan>buutenks>mystic gohan>ssj3 gotenks>= super buu> gt goku = ssj3 goku = original fat buu (far beyond limits)> uub >= kid buu> evil buu> good buu> majin vegeta ssj2= ssj2 goku
You need to read the manga again, goku said if him and Vegeta go out and fight super buu (base form) they would be killed, he said if they fight him OUTSIDE of his body, they would still die, reread the manga --->mangable.com/dragonball/chapter-507/12/
@Dian nope , buff buu was stronger in turns of raw power ( just like when trunks went buff on perfect cell ) increase of power but decrease of speed and movement .
@Mr popo Goku was not scared of Kid Buu because he is unfused but Goku knows Kid Buu is Stronger than Buuhan Goku fought Kid Buu easier because Kid Buu was toying with him if Kid Buu fought seriously Goku won't be able to land a punch
If there is influence there can easily be more than one. Having an unconnected influence inside kid Boo easily explains why the Buff Boo form AND power would not be maintained. Goku was saying the potara would have made things much easier. And nowhere did he say "toying". Official manga translation says Kid Boo was dragging it out and having fun. Which also does not mean he is toying. Kid Boo does not loose energy or get tried. That combo can easily let him have fun AND max power without stress
In short, I believe it could go either way. Assuming that Super Buu could finish the fight quick enough, he could potentially win. However, if the fight were to drag on for too long, Kid Buu would most likely win as he simply cannot run out of stamina. Kid Buu's unpredictability may also be what determines the outcome of the fight. Other variables may come into play. For example, Super Buu, if possible, could absorb other entities to increase his power level midway through the fight.
Saying Super Buu's influences and sanity made him weaker is like saying Gohan's love and compassion made him helpless against Cell. Gohan fought Super Buu at his most raw power when he made him angry, everybody overlooks that. That's why Gohan's not even an option for the Kid Buu fight. What sense did it make to put his teen version to fight against all odds but not have his most powerful version in the final battle? Super Buu would destroy Kid Buu easily if he was pissed off
Those percentages are only poor assumptions. And yes. He did just stand there with his arms in the air as vegeta began his attack. Also, NOWHERE is it even implied that Vegeta kept his majin power boost. The only thing that is there is that his was using a dead body, which uses less of the energy he does have. Fat Boo was capable of producing a blast to which the backforce of the explosion made it hard for SSJ3 Goku to even hold his ground.
SSJ2 Vegeta was nowhere near Fat Boo. Even with the majin upgrade. Boo virtually just stood there and let Vegeta pound on him. And even after the explosion. Boo only fired ONE mouth blast at vegeta, which was clearly meant to only draw his attention to throw his body fat and trap vegeta. Fat Boo's Power rivaled SSJ3 Gokus. Vegeta wasnt anywhere near him. SSJ2 Vegeta is only in the area of a little more than half of Good Boos power, and Good Boo is only half of what Kid Boo had.
The evidence is in the power increase for Gotenks. Why would Piccolo mention in increase in the base power of the kids when he was confused to hell on why they werent fusing as SSJ to begin with. Pulling out the "plot" card is garbage. Its another way of saying you cant explain things, when the path that I have been saying DOES give reasonable explanations. If you want to go that route then there are those that can say Kid Boo > Goku > Gohan > Super Boo because the "plot" was designed that way.
I Only Watched The Anime (With Canon) + Non Canon Cause Manga Is Not Available here. ... In The Anime There's Nothing Like That Has been Said & Even You Could See When Supreme Kai Asked Goku If Gotenks Was Stronger Than Him Or Not Goku Just Said ==》Well, I Can Do It Too... (About SSJ 3)
That's The Fact. You See The Fans Who Don't Read Manga (Don't Have Them In Their Country ) & Watched English Dubbed Of DBZ And Toriama Himself Said That Power Levels Are Not The Way To Measure A Fighters Fighting Ability. Besides, Battle of Gods Easily Shows Gotenks & Gohan's Present Condition Due To Lack Of Training...
***** Well, Again You Guys Are Comparing Goku Ss3, Ultimate Gohan & Gotenks Ss3... Even You Know After Watching Battle Of Gods ==》Gohan Stopped Training & Gotenks Or Gohan Couldn't Stand Against Birus.. Where Goku After Losing His God Power As The Time Ranout Hold His Own & Had A Great Fight With Birus Making Him Use His Almost 70% Of Total Power When Goku Was Just A Super Saiyan... So That Easily Ends The Debate On How You Calculated The Power Levels On Manga. Furthermore,, I Want A Direct Reference Where It's Stated That Super Buu Base 》》 Kid Buu. So, Till You Find & Show It To Me Don't Compare Kid Buu With Super Buu(Base) ==》Who Is Stronger,,,, Instead Of Comparing Goku SS3,Gotenks SS3 Or Ultimate Gohan,,, Try Comparing Just Kid Buu or Super Buu... :)
omfg kid buu has 27 million power and super buu 70 million fucking idiots kid buu it s the first form... but kid buu it s more dangerous than the othera
And youve proven a single thing? As mentioned before. It wasnt power level goku was taking the limit of. It was the Genki energy, which is only ONE component needed to generate power levels. It is a FACT that the kids didnt even transform. Showing outright it was not sheer power level being collected to the max. And SSJ3 Goku > Kid Boo. The fight does NOT show overwise. Goku was not able to use his Full Power attack which he outright said would finish the job.
Fat Boo was clearly weaker against SSJ3 Goku. Meaning Fat Boo is LESS than x4 a SSJ2. Making a maximum of 40% that power being a noticeable bit weaker than 2x a SSJ2. Which is a power that wasnt even capable of allowing Vegeta to defend himself against any of Kid Boos attacks. Nowhere in the manga was there a mention of Kid Boo gaining power during his battle with SSJ3 Goku, nor was there any sign of him being enraged, or even annoyed with vegeta.
Kenyion Douglas yes he is. Goku is slight stronger/just as strong as Kid Buu but he himself said that with the combined strength of him and Goku ain’t enough to beat Super Buu
Super Buuhan> Super Buutenks> Kid Buu> Super Buu > Mean Skinny Buu > Fat Buu > Mean Skinny Buu overpowered Good Fat Buu. When Super Buu transformed into South Supreme Kai buff Buu they said his power was Increasing! Then when he went to Kid Buu, they never said his power went down. Vegeta, Goku even Mr Hercule + dead People on the Great Kai Planet were all Confident because of Kid Buu's size but Nobody could sense his power level because he was hiding it Except the Supreme Kai, who said "This (kid)Buu is even more Powerful! & without good Fat Buu he's Pure Unrestrained Evil. He didn't even waste time destroying the earth & other planets. Keep in mind Super Buu had Fat Buu in him which weakened him. Kid Buu got rid of Fat Buu. After re-watching the Buu saga, It is stated a few times that Kid Buu is the strongest natural Buu (besides Piccolo/ Gotenks/Gohan absorbed) Evil Kid Buu toyed around & destroyed Good Fat Buu again. Kid Buu is actually slightly a stronger fighter than Ultimate Gohan I would say because of Buu's absorption, regeneration, stamina, ultimate attacks & other body abilities + Gohan hadn't been training, And If Gohan was "WAY" Stronger they would've taken him back to the battle when he was wished back ;) to defeat Buu but they saw that Kid Buu was just too strong even for him. Kid Buu wasn't scared or phased at all & even laughed when Goku transformed into a SSJ3 (who isn't much weaker than Ult Gohan) and made fun of Goku during battle even getting bored. Goku never did any permanent damage against kid buu, but kid Buu did lots damage to SSJ3Goku, forcing Goku to take a break. Kid Buu didn't even use 100% of his powers against SSJ3 Goku Until the Spirit Bomb which he pushed back with force until Goku got All his Saiyan powers back and Still used them All up Again just to finish Kid Buu off.
+Charlie Johnson Goku is not one to laugh at opponent's size. He warned everyone that the Cell Jrs size didn't matter because they were strong. So when he says "we did it" he is talking about Buu's power becoming WEAKER than before.
Gohans group did not even give their max energy. Not only where they flying around the planet after giving a portion, but also the kids didnt fuse to supply their maximum power. They didnt even turn SSJ. Ultimate Gohan >>>>> Super Boo. MANGA FACT Super Boo >>>> SSJ3 Goku. MANGA FACT. Goku was certain a Full Power attack from SSJ3 could have killed Kid boo. MANGA FACT Good Boo had only half the power of SSJ3 Goku was capable of holding off Kid Boo. MANGA FACT. Gohan > Super Boo > Goku > Kid Boo
Pushing back the spirit bomb doesnt mean SHIT since the manga is very clear kid boo was only capable of doing it because the lack of power that goku had left in base form. and yea. Kid Boo was suppressing his power while going through an extremely stressful transformation. you keep thinking that. And you are saying thats how much he was using. Because for Goku to be able to battle a power super than Super Boo like he did, Kid Boo would have to have been using less than 10% his not. Not Happenin
Kid Buu is not more powerful than Super Buu, stop watching the enemies fucked up Dubs and read the manga. Kid Buu was just more dangerous and wreckless, immature, and more emotionless, he wasn't a better fighter nore had more power. Gohan Buu Gotenks Buu Piccolo Buu Super Buu Kid Buu Evil Buu Majin Buu And that's that. Do your research, it is obvious so.
Mike Wins in the anime , goku said to kid buu that he are the most powerfull buu forms , i dont care by the ''logic'' , its just a anime , fuck the logic , kid buu is the strongest buu , if you go with the DBZ logic , yamcha are stronger than vegeta -.-'' its just a cartoon , in some parts make no sense , but goku said that kid buu is stronger , you can watch in episode 280 .. i dont care what they said in the manga , the anime is oficial just like the manga is , if he is stronger in the anime , fuck the mangá , i prefer watch the anime than the mangá -.-''
Mike Wins you dont have more arguments???goku said in episode 280 that kid buu is stronger and faster than all the other buus...and make no sense super buu transform in a weaker form.. so your ''manga'' arguments is just a bullshit...
joao moreli Where is the logic in that? He said that IN THE FUCKED UP AMERICAN DUB, when Super Buu was transforming into Kid Buu, just like he said "You don't expect to beat me like that do you..." to Piccolo Buu after the Gotenks Fusion wore off, they say these things to spice it up, really he said "Gohan could take it from here." Piccolo Buu would woop SSJ3 Goku, and Super Buu and him would be almost even, but SSJ3 Gotenks could maintain his SSJ3 for a longer period of time without losing energy, Goku cannot, Gotenks would beat SSJ3 Goku if he fought serious enough.
Mike Wins you are going by the anime ''logic'' im going by the facts.. in some times , kuririn or yamcha hold a enemies more longer than vegeta or goku , is just a anime , fuck the logic man -.-'' in portuguese , japanese and english DUB , goku said the samething to kid buu in episode 280 , he said that kid buu are stronger than all the other buu''s , so your arguments by the ''logic'' makes no sense , its only a cartoon -.-''
Goku always said during battles that he was enjoying the challenge. And again. Kid Boo can use all his power without stress. It does NOT mean was he suppressing. And he definitely was not using less than 10% his power, which is what he would have had to been using for goku to have the upper hand AND be stronger than Super Boo. And the garbage line is NOT working. You cannot display the power of a form without being in the form yet. The increase quote was ONLY when Buff Boo was forming.
It was stated that Fat Boo decreased the power while he was in Buff Boo form. They never mentioned anything about South Kai having no affect on Boo. And influence from the Good Boo pad was STILL there. that is a fact. Or else Kid Boo never would have been prevented from attacking mr satan. They did laugh at the size. But never wouldve done so if he was still displaying a power far greater than theirs. As I said before, you didnt see them laughing at the cell jr. from with the power they had.
Enough if the BS south kai comment. that is the only thing you constant regurgitate over and over and it doesnt mean jack shit. South and Dia kia physically dont exists anymore. The kia absorptions were not normal absorptions and affected boo differently than the normal fighters. They mentioned the power increase because his power increased AS BUFF BOO. South kai was not some jolly pure hearted being, he was a warrior. Not all of his essence would be contained in only the good boo pod.
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It's been 11 yrs since I've watch this. Its 2020 now. Wow time flew so fast
Ikr
Super buus better .
@@Gogeta-rn2ud and way stronger
@@Ethan-md5do Kid Buu is Stronger
It's been 11 months since you commented.
My childhood was watching stuff like this lol and believing it was real lol
I knew I wasn’t the only 1
Kid Buu may not have been the strongest Buu. But the manga calls him "the most dangerous" due to his unpredictability, relentlessness and wild fighting style. Kid Buu has the ability to learn moves just by watching it done once (instant transmission). He can regenerate faster than his other forms. He appears to be quicker and crazier than the others. Say what you will, but Kid Buu is far more entertaining to watch fight than the other Buu's. And he's the only villain that successfully destroyed earth. His planet buster was so powerful that it had both Vegeta and Goku running only to be saved by Kabito Kai at the last minute. His power level is a mystery. Some believe Kid Buu was never serious against SS3 Goku and suppressed his full power during the fight. Others don't believe that and consider Base Super Buu to be greater in strength. We will never truly know who was stronger, as nothing official was stated in the manga. But nothing changes the fact that Kid Buu was an awesome and merciless villain.
Falso, young lad. When did the other Buus learn instant transmission just by sensing the user using it? The Kamehameha, sure. But almost everyone knows that move, lol. And Super Buu used the moves of those he absorbed. He never used moves that he saw. Only absorbed moves. Fat Buu learned the kamehameha, but that's a small feat.
***** goku clearly stated in the manga that he stole his move so....
Goku Junior 悟空ジュニア
WHATTUP GOKU JR???
Golden frieza did
Agreed I feel that kid buu is the strongest buu without and absorbtion of gohan and maybe Gotenks but I feel kid buu is stronger than superbuu
They could of defeated him by vegito and gogeta fusion
Vegito and gogeta can't fuse are you dumb? Goku and vegita can fuze, into either vegito or gogeta
super buu is more powerful, but kid buu is more dangerous
CyborgSword YOU SIR!!! You know your stuff, unlike most people on RUclips. Kudos to you.
Thanks dude!
no
Christian Aupont Yes.
TheShapeH31 how is super buu stronger than kid buu
3:00 Should have been ultra buu
*hyper buu
Kid Buu doesnt nearly have the power level that super buu has. BUT, unlike the other buu forms he does not loose energy, get worn down or tired, and regenerates the quickest. And mix that with his insanity level and you have the most DANGEROUS form of buu. Not the strongest.
His power level close to Super Buu's one.
@@nicolocadamuro9988 more near to being at Fat Boo, but above him.
@@nicolocadamuro9988 Nope, not at all. SSJ3 Goku could go head to head with Kid Buu, but they needed the far stronger SSJ3 fusion and Gohan with his potential unraveled to fight Super Buu.
For everyone that doesn't know...
Ultimate Buu (Gohan absorbed)>Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed)>Super Buu>Kid Buu>Majin Buu
If you want to argue with me, go for it.
Umm well kidd buu is stronger if you go by the anime kabokai said to goku andvegeta how are you planning on beating majin buu in his pResent state is more powerful then ever. Meaning hes stronger then super buu
khalil williams He said he is the most dangerous, not the most powerful or strongest.
its actually ultimate buu> gotenks buu> kid buu> super buu>majin buu.
Someone who gets it!
All Are Right Except ==> Kid Buu > Super Buu (Without Absorving Gotenks & Gohan)
Super Buu is stronger no doubt
agreed
the dbz wiki also agrees. (scroll down to the 'power' section) dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Buu
***** odd, seeing how his power level that i mentioned has nothing to do with the games.
Eduardo Henrique agreed
Yeah but kid buu is far more dangerous.like super buu killed several people sure but kid buu destroyed the entire planet.
Super Buu and Kid Buu are the same being, except Super Buu is bigger taller more muscular, smarter and stronger than kid Buu is, so the Super Buu form is an extension to Kid Buu’s evolved being.
@Dian well they’re about the same strength but kid Buu is faster and super Buu usually when he gets angry DOES get stronger then kid Buu.
@@cainbutler6291 Kid Buu is stronger
@@KenyionDouglas no super Buu is stronger than kid Buu when he absorbs people.
@@KenyionDouglas kid buu isn't stronger. Gotenks couldn't beat super buu. And he was far stronger than goku. So goku would have been swept by kid buu. But he wasn't. He was somewhat equal to him.
@@KenyionDouglas depends, if you are talking about the original Super Buu they are equal or slightly stronger than Kid Buu, but if you are talking about Buutenks or Buuhan, Kid Buu get Rekt
That was awesome, the best ending you could have possibly done.
Why do people keep saying Kid Buu is more dangerous but Super Buu is stronger. I don't care about these two statements I just want to know who would win in a death match. Fighting to death who would win? In my opinion I say Kid Buu.
The Rock kid buu will win against base super buu in a death match also ss3 goku said kid buu is twice as strong as super while he fought kid buu as a ss3. Super buu is only stronger than kid buu because when he absorbs he gain power while kids buu power decreases
@@aksosa2928 he also killed gohan
Prince Vegeta yes he did
Cap
Buuhan>Buutenks>Buucolo>Super Buu> Kid Buu> Evil Buu > Majin Buu
Thats basically the list!
+Houndoom 22 thank you someone who actually knows
+NovaTroll93 Thanks for agreeing, People kid buu is stronger bacause he is insane and everything but Kid buu is about the same strength as a ssj3 goku if not a bit stronger, whereas Super Buu is around the same strength as ssj3 gotenks which is stronger than Goku, then theres Buutenks who pretty much beat Ssj3 goku without trying and buuhan and who gave so much problems until vegito stepped in,
+Houndoom 22 ikr, kid buu is only a but higher than ssj3 goku and they were pretty even
+NovaTroll93 yea, and also its weird that fat buu was able to hold his own against against, which means kid buu isnt much stronger
+Houndoom 22 true
And gokus exact quote from the manga about normal super buu. "Wait! He's still stronger than either of us!". "He'll kill us if we go out like this."
nothing complicated about it if you actually follow the story. super buu is stronger.
Kid buu is tha best
Kid Buu stop complimenting yourself
Kid buu is stronger than base super buu
@@aksosa2928 agree
Yeah
1 Gohan buu
2 gotenks, piccolo buu
3 piccolo buu
4 kid bu pure
5 super bu
6 kid bu
7 evil buu
8 fat buu
9 good buu
AK Sosa BULLSHIT
Super Buu is the strongest. It's been proven already. Do some research.
Yup only Buuhan is stronger than kid buu. All done doing my research :) your turn.
OnlyGames Productions but he's not lol. Super Buu
Kid buu can't evil beat fat buu. Kid buu is only the most evil not the most powerful.
+Mark Peters Whoa Whoa Whoa. I'd like to know what manga you're reading. If you're reading Multiverse than you should know it's basically fanfiction. Akira Toriyama's manga the best thing Goku ever said about Kid Buu is that he's stronger than he originally expected but he could still kill him if he had time to gather his strength.
Gohan Buu > Gotenks Buu > Buff Buu > Piccolo Buu = Super Buu > Kid Buu > Majin Buu > Pure Evil Majin Buu > Good Buu
TheShapeH31 is exactly right. That's the right order.
The fact that Goku even considers fusing with Mr. Satan before fighting Super Buu, but gladly took Kid Buu on 1v1 is the nail in the coffin for this debate.
Wrong, that was Super Buu with Gohan, Piccolo, Goten and Trunks absorbed, not base Super Buu vs base kid buu as this battle is debating.
I've met him somewhere before. WELL OBVIOUSLY!!! YOU'RE THE SAME PERSON!
Kid Buu is stronger. Goku:"Darn you, where's your weak point. You're twice as strong as you were before. Your speed and power." Your arguments of super Buu being stronger is invalid.
MikeTheKnight that’s was an error
Goku said that because his regeneration plus most likely a dubbed error, second Goku stated that he couldn't beat Duper Buu even at Super Saiyan 3, Goku was stronger than kid buu it's just Kid Buu kept wearing his stamina down
Apex Mercer kid buu is stronger then super buu(without anyone absorbed) he could have beat buu with piccolo absorbed even goku implied it “you don’t plan to beat me like that do you?”
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@@nep7939 Stats say kid buu is stronger
Power scalling say super buu is stronger
It really doesn't matter because at the end Super Buu wouldn't be who he is if Kid Buu wasn't born!
True but Super Buu is better
Dian uh yeah the fuck he is
Dian cap cap cap cap. Super Buu stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is actually Buu’s weaker forms. Just cuz Kid Buu is the original form don’t mean he the strongest
Dian Goku said Super Buu would kill him and Vegeta and he almost did, Kid Buu was evenly matched with Goku
@Dian I totally agree with you Dian.
Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Kid Buu > Fat Buu
No
Kid Buu > Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Evil Buu > Fat Buu
Kenyion Douglas Kid buu is The buu original form,super buu is The better.
@@blankricc9199 Nah Kid Buu is better
@@KenyionDouglas I dont get it , when goku was inside of buu and took off the pods of the others he told vegeta he cant just go fight super buu he is still stronger even with ssj 3 but goku and vegeta fought kid buu in ssj2 for a bit without getting rekt .
@@MajinMist603 Kid Buu was toying with him he let him get hits on him they was not doing any damage if Kid Buu fought seriously Goku won't land a hit on him so Kid Buu is the Strongest
It's Been 30 Years Since Buu Saga Came Into Being
Still even in 2023 People Are Still Fighting About Which Buu Is The Strongest ! EDIT EVEN IN 2024
Yeah and I always tell them the answer is obviously Kid Buu
@KenyionDouglas No Bro You're Wrong
Buuhan Is The Strongest Buu Ever
@@cellandbuuaremyfavoritedbz1542No it's Kid Buu i argue about this all the time
so in your sense , If kid buu is the strongest , so ssj 3 goku also should be stronger than ssj vegito , ? that is too confusing
they needed vegito to fuse against buuhan@@KenyionDouglas even against buutenks too gohan needed to fuse with goku to beat him
they needed gogeta to use against base super buu
goku states that even base super buu can beat two of them easily ( also gohan could beat super buu cuz he was the strongest Unfused character in buu arc
while ssj 3 goku fought evenly with kid buu
so it's clear that buuhan's the strongest buu ever
No Bro You're Wrong
Buuhan is the strongest Buu
I agree with him @@KenyionDouglas
Buu is stronger than Buu but Buu is the better fighter so Buu should win.
Saying Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is the same as saying Kim Jong Un stronger than prime Mike Tyson
Mike Tyson is stronger Kim Jong Un in terms of physical strength, but Kim Jong Un is more dangerous due to his possession of nuclear power.
But we're talking about Dragon Ball here, so yeah...
veigeto>buuhan>buutenks>gohan mystic>gotenks ssj3>buu picollo + kidds>buu piccolo>super boo>>>>>>kidd buu = goku ssj3 =>fat buu>vegeta
THATS ALL END OF THE DISCUSS BATTLE OF GOD IS A SHIT NON CANON HERE IS THE TORYAMA WILL ! and super boo is stornger than kidd buu !
Haha, no one likes your post because it wrong
whats wrong that super buu stronger than kidd buu ? lol :/
Super buu is nowhere near strong as kidd buu
Scott Warnick u stupid...read the manga again..
Scott Warnick if kid was stronger why did goku use fusion against super buu but not kid buu and they had a chance to use the fusion again but goku said they won't need it because he was sure he could beat kid buu he only had a hard time because he wanted vegeta to get a shot.
saiyan was in the battle at 1:18
Gohan is very experienced and is the strongest non-fused character in the show even above Super Saiyan 3 Goku (canon).
Super Boo is far stronger than just Good Boo + Evil Boo. By an area of around 10x stronger to be an even match for SSJ3 Gotenks.
The breaking of the solid connection of the Goob Boo pod caused a reaction in Boo which forced his body to reset itself to its default state. Which explains the appearance of the form and power gain of the Buff Boo, followed by the added transformation and power reduction into the original Kid Boo form.
uh, I'm pretty sure that Super Buu combined with Kid Buu wouldn't be enough to defeat SSJ Gogeta, Mystic Gohan is stronger than both Kid Buu and Super Buu Gogeta has about 50% power of Vegito. Vegito easily destroyed Super Buu combined with Gohan which is stronger than Kid Buu+Super Buu, Gogeta should win that battle due to the fact Vegito wasn't using 100% power against Buuhan (Maybe even less than 75%) so Gogeta should win against Super Buu, Kid Buu absorbed.
Actually Kid Buu is the most powerful of all the Buus. Think of it this way,when any of the Buus absorb somebody, it takes all of the strength that Buu has and all the strength the other people he's absorbed strength, and divides by the number of people. so if he absorbs a weaker person he becomes weaker,rather than stronger.(this was explained in the show,but not with exact percentages etc,i made those up to make the point)
Kid Buu (Super Buu absorbed) wins...
Super Buu (Kid Buu absorbed) wins....
Uh, wait...
Buu (Buu absorbed) wins???
Absorbed (absorbed) wins
Dark Buu (hentai version) wins xDDD
Super Buu wouldn't stand a chance against Kid Buu.
***** You look like a Fine Gentleman that would like to Kiss my ass
***** You look like a Fine Gentleman that would like to Kiss my ass
Agree
Kid Buu was toying with Goku and Vegeta in their fight. He could've easily killed them both in one blast if he really wanted to.
Kid buu was toying with Goku and Vegeta, and he overpowered both of them EVEN in Super Saiyan 3 form.
Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu, but the difference is not very large because Kid Buu only needs to absorb the south KaiohShin to become stronger than him.
Super Buu Gohan > Super Buu Gotenks > Kid Buu south Kaioshin > Super Buu Picolo > Super Buu > Kid Buu > Evil Buu > Fat Buu
All the people that says kid buy is stronger is wrong! Kid buu = ssj3 goku
Ssj1 gotenks = ssj3 goku/kid buu
Ssj3 gotenks = super buu
The chart shows that kid buu is DRASICLY weaker than super buu.
People. Lets use the logic
Kid buu + Fat buu: Super buu. Super buu is stronger its like this. 3(kid buu) + 1(fat buu): 4(super buu).
Super buu wins
Yes
Fat buu + evil buu = super buu
Super buu - fat buu = kid buu ???
Goku said the kid buu was twice as strong as he was before meaning kid buu = 2x super buu
That has no logic. And that was said in the English dub, in the Japanese version goku said that he was the most dangerous because all he wanted to do is destruction and super buu didnt because he was smarter. Also, goku didnt fight with super buu, he doesnt know his power level
Wtf is fat buu?
Evil buu + fat buu= evil buu has full control over the body and is more evil than good. Fat buu removed From the body = kid buu nothing holding his destructive power back including common sense. Kid buu> super buu
my opinion kid buu > super buu not buutenks or buuhan just normal super buu
I did say my opinion
Pamela Fitzgerald True you did but it's a series fact that Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.
@@TheShapeH31 no its not stop bullshiting.
Absorption made boo weaker, Vegeta took out the source and he gained his power.
@@pamelafitzgerald4865 he is also > than Buutenks and Buuhan
@@TheShapeH31 wrong Kid Buu is the Strongest
Super buu would win
nah
Super buu would demolish kid buu
nope
Goku yes he would
***** any proof of kid buu being stronger than super buu
Why does everyone think thats kid buu is stronger than super buu here it is:
Buuhan>Super Buu>Kid Buu>Evil/Grey Buu>Fat Buu
P.S. This (the video) Is fake!
listen to kabito Kai's story about kid buu. Each Kai buu absorbed made him less evil because of the goodness ,pure hearts that the Kai's had. Notice how each one of buu's forms were different from kid buu. Kid buu is the most ruthless ,and the most evil form of buu. I guess that's why kabito Kai was tripping out
Super Buu is definitely stronger than Kid Buu. But Kid Buu`s regeneration ability may be greater than Super Buu`s. He seems to be able to regenerate with allot less effort. Plus it took a big ass spirit bomb to kill him.
I think Super Buu would win but I think it would be closer than you think.
Kid Buu is stronger than both Super Buu and Goku.
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…”
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…”
Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo.
Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system.
During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw.
Which one destroyed the earth? KB all day. Super is too egotistical, just like Cell.
...wasn’t planning on commenting and then that dbz nostalgia overflowed; nice video.
Kid Buu is weaker but he’s more prone to destroying shit around
Edit: How is Super Buu egotistical
Vegito>boohan>bootenks>ultimate Gohan>buff buu>ssj3 Gotenks=super boo>ssj3 Goku>kid boo>fat buu>evil boo>good buu
Proof that super buu is AT LEAST 8x kid buu: Goku had faith that ssj1 gotenks is enough to beat fat buu, so ssj1 gotenks>=ssj3 Goku. Post HTC, ssj1 gotenks>>ssj3 Goku. Ssj3=8x ssj1. Ssj3 gotenks>> 8x Ssj3 Goku. Ssj3 gotenks fought on par against super buu. And Ssj3 Goku said he could of beat kid buu at full power if he did not drag out he fight.
Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu and Goku. Why would Toriyama weaken a villain for no reason when he has never done that especially for a final battle?
When Frieza reached his final form:
Kuririn: "Is that Frieza's final form, huh? It looks weak to me"
Goku: "you are Frieza? You are smaller than I thought"
When Cell reached final form:
Vegeta: hahaha so much for long promised completion....he shrunk
When Kid Buu reached final form:
Vegeta: "hehehe look he's a midget"
Goku: "haha we did it he ain't shit now we can beat him"
Can't you even notice a pattern? Characters in DB are guilty of mistaking their opponents off size.
If his Ki went down why don't they talk about it but only his size? Why would the Kaioshins want them to fuse against an even weaker Buu? Makes no fucking sense.
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…”
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…”
Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo.
Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system.
During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw.
@Korbin Douglasno True.
Korbin Douglasno Thanks.
Encasing Boo in the ball was a spell. Releasing him was also a spell. Official manga shows kai even saying at first the energy used in the process had killed Boo, before he smoke even formed into fat boo. Meaning the energy has a different purpose than being supplied as Boo's power.
Again, you cannot display the power of a form until AFTER the form has been reached. The Buff Boo form was Buff Boo's power. And they made fun of his size, They never would have even tried to fight if he was still
You're not comprehending. Vegito's ki alone may not be enough to form a full powered SB, but he'd still "clean Buu's clock" as Old Kai said, even decimate him completely with a strong enough blast. The spirit bomb has never worked in DBZ before until against Buu. That means the bulk of SB's power came from the young Z fighters along with the world containing a hell of a lot more kick than the earlier ones which is why it worked once it engulfed Buu.
Super Boo is Logical a Fusion of the 2 Boo,s and Stronger.
Super Boo has Power of Fat Boo & Evil Boo.
Kid Buu has Just Power of Evil Boo.
No. Kid Buu has the power of nobody, he is pure evil. Kid Buu has his own powers. Super Buu was weakend by the influence of the kais, stop forgetting that. Why would Toriyama weaken a villain for no reason when he has never done that especially for a final battle?
When Frieza reached his final form:
Kuririn: "Is that Frieza's final form, huh? It looks weak to me"
Goku: "you are Frieza? You are smaller than I thought"
When Cell reached final form:
Vegeta: hahaha so much for long promised completion....he shrunk
When Kid Buu reached final form:
Vegeta: "hehehe look he's a midget"
Goku: "haha we did it he ain't shit now we can beat him"
Can't you even notice a pattern? Characters in DB are guilty of mistaking their opponents off size.
If his Ki went down why don't they talk about it but only his size? Why would the Kaioshins want them to fuse against an even weaker Buu? Makes no fucking sense.
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…”
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption[s] …has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…”
Boo without any Kai influences on his soul is at his most powerful. This is stated in the mangas. Both in the original japanese manga, and the VizBig edition. Super Boo had Kai influences, as soon as they were removed, his Ki is stated to become stronger and the result of this is Kid Boo. Literally, Super Boo minus all kais results in Kid Boo.
Fat Boo does represent both Kaioshins, as when Fat Boo is removed, Boo returns to his original form that has no one absorbed. Disconnecting Good Boo = disconnecting BOTH South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. It's impossible for Boo to be accessing his South Kaioshin-absorbed Ki because South Kaioshin is no longer connected. The ki that began increasing from Super Boo's ki when fat Boo was removed was Kid Boo's ki all along, as that is literally the only Ki left in Boo's system.
During Gokus fight with Kid Buu, Goku clearly said: "This Buu is far more powerful than I imagined". And he also regrets, not fusing with Vegeta: "He would be no problem if we fused". And the thing is, Kid Buu was just toying with them: "That idiot could have come right back, hes just prolonged it to toy with us!!" These were quotes from the Manga btw
@@dizeated6613 Nah Super Buu is stronger. Simple put Goku and Vegeta felt they could defeat kid buu without needing the fusion. While against superbuu Goku felt like he had no choice but to fuse.
@@JailBr3ak3r77 they couldn’t fuse to beat kid Buu they didn’t have the earrings and let’s not forget even super Buu was scared when gold removed fat Buu from within him because he knew Kid Buu would come back Kid Buu is the purest and most powerful form
kid buu is my favorite
Same
Same
@@finalhazard883 Ayyyyy
@@sunghleipar4690 Ayyy heh heh
@@finalhazard883 I like Kid Buu cause he's pure evil and destructive and like he was practically indestructible when fighting Vegeta, Good Buu, and Goku
WTF Dark Buu !!!!!
nope kid boo is super buus last form and much stronger than super buu
Gonna be real. Super Buu would destroy Kid Buu. Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks would have also mauled SSJ3 Goku at the time.
If you gave me a choice between walking into a room with the Joker or with Bane I pick Bane. Not because he is weaker, but because the other guy is so much more unhinged.
That is what made Kid Buu more dangerous than Super Buu.
Wouldnt say not a challenge. But definitely cut Boos power down to around 10% of what Super Boo had.
Its hard to say where Evil Boo is at, because not only did the manga mention that the evil inside Fat Boo grew greatly, but we don't know what the exact division in their power was, Only that Evil Boo got the larger chunk.
The way i put it in my SlamscapeDBZ video was Fet Boos max power grew larger and divided so that Evil Boo was somewhere around the Fat Boo power, and rest went to Good Boo.
Goku admitted he could've destroyed kid buu from the start if he used his full power. Instead, he held back in order to have a good fight and to give Vegeta a chance however he didn't realize how draining ssj3 was on a living body so when he tried to go to full power it was too late and he had no stamina left to do it. However, Goku against Super Buu said many times the Super Buu would tear them apart even with SSJ3. heck, the first thing he did was suggesting fusing again unlike when he fought kid buu when he destroyed the earings, and the idea of fusing all together showing that he was confident in holding his own against kid buu much more so than super buu.
Oh also about Gotenks. He was able to hold SSJ3 much better than Goku was due to his body being a fusion body and was stated in the Japanese dub of the show that due to Gotenks being a fusion body he could hold and use SSJ3 at full power much easier than Goku could. Technically we never saw Goku once use SSJ3 truly at full power so it is hard to scale where he is at however personally I feel that Gotenks at SSJ3 FP is around equal to full power SSJ3 Goku however Gotenks has a much easier time due to being able to hold ssj3 much easier than Goku.
Also for those saying that Gotenks beat Super Buu. No, he didn't. Rewatch the Ultimate Gohan vs Buu fight and Super Buu literally admits that he held back against Gotenks and instead was stalling for time and waiting for Gohan to arrive. Buu was literally fighting Gotenks just to occupy him before Gohan arrived. However, he bit off more than he could chew and Gohan ended up much stronger than he thought.
After all that though, Kid Buu does have a couple of quirks over Super Buu being much more torturous, sadistic, and dangerous since unlike Super Buu he doesn't mess around and instead gets to the point, an example being when he destroyed the planet instantly after he was reborn. Also, Kid Buu has been shown to have better regeneration abilities than every other Buu.
Finally here is a little theory I have about Kid Buu.
The reason why he never tries to absorb Goku or Vegeta is that on a subconscious level he is scared to absorb again ever since what happened when he absorbed the Kais when he became Fat Buu. Super Buu doesn't care for that as he technically is what kid buu became from absorbing the Kais (Though he had to go through some effort to become the way he wanted) and so Super Buu actually enjoys absorbing people as he enjoys having intelligence and power and even a little innocence as he is what became of all that the first time so why would he not want more?
@Dian Your forgetting Goku's reaction which was instantly WOAH he a strong boi
Lemme prove why kid buu is the strongest buu
@Dian Also Fat Buu before splitting was technically stronger than kid Buu however he was unable to access the additional Kai's power due to the Dai Kaio's goodness surpressing Buu's power and evil nature which in turn made him weaker. Super Buu is literally Buu's evil taking majority control of the Kai's power and interlect alongside his own however it is revealed soon later that even the Evil within Buu didn't have 100 % control since he still doesn't kill Mr Satan due to retaining good memory's of his time with him and also Super Buu unlike kid buu didn't really torture his opponents and instead got them killed quickly if they seemed like a waste of time where as kid buu intentionally holds back especially against Vegeta just for torture and satisfaction until he is bored. Also I know this might seem mad but it makes much more sense in the long haul for Super Buu to be stronger than Kid Buu. What would be the point of Kid Buu absorbing the Kai's if he didn't get stronger? Also did you not notice how Goku was always against beating Super Buu in a 1v1 and always stated that he would be killed yet against kid Buu he was really up to fight kid buu? Since when does Goku back down from a fight? Yes there are contradictions saying that Kid Buu was the most powerful Buu but that doesn't match previous statements or make much sense as it would then make kid Buu's absorbtions when fighting the Kai's or when fighting Vegito and Gohan pointless if it made him weaker and but it was Toriyama who wrote this and he's literally known for forgetting stuff so he probs confused himself writing Kid Buu.
Also side note - notice how after kid buu has been reborn Vegeta is much more confident in taking him down which would make no sense if Buu's power had gone up stating that "he's totally puny" which obviously could be referring to his size but also could be referring to his power in comparison to Super Buu. But Vegeta didn't expect Kid Buu to be though weaker, much more torturous and pure evil going straight to blowing up the planet 😂
Overall I get why some people think kid buu is the strongest Buu however based on what we have already seen from Buu and heard from other characters it makes literally 0 sense. Kid Buu though does he the best regeneration ability out of all the Buu's due to being Pure Buu as shown in the time he takes to regenerate in the manga and in the anime.
@Dian What about when Kid buu abosrbed the South Supreme Kai? and If that made him weaker why would he continue to absorb the Grand Supreme Kai? Also like I said before, the evidence for Super Buu being stronger than kid buu is in the majority. ( I get your point about Vegeta tho)
@Dian Goku even admitted he could've destroyed kid buu from the start if he used his full power. Instead, he held back in order to have a good fight and to give Vegeta a chance however he didn't realize how draining ssj3 was on a living body so when he tried to go to full power it was too late and he had no stamina left to do it. However, Goku against Super Buu said many times the Super Buu would tear them apart even with SSJ3. heck, the first thing he did was suggesting fusing again unlike when he fought kid buu when he destroyed the earings, and the idea of fusing all together showing that he was confident in holding his own against kid buu much more so than super buu.
Oh also about Gotenks. He was able to hold SSJ3 much better than Goku was due to his body being a fusion body and was stated in the Japanese dub of the show that due to Gotenks being a fusion body he could hold and use SSJ3 at full power much easier than Goku could. Technically we never saw Goku once use SSJ3 truly at full power so it is hard to scale where he is at however personally I feel that Gotenks at SSJ3 FP is around equal to full power SSJ3 Goku however Gotenks has a much easier time due to being able to hold ssj3 much easier than Goku.
Also for those saying that Gotenks beat Super Buu. No, he didn't. Rewatch the Ultimate Gohan vs Buu fight and Super Buu literally admits that he held back against Gotenks and instead was stalling for time and waiting for Gohan to arrive. Buu was literally fighting Gotenks just to occupy him before Gohan arrived. However, he bit off more than he could chew and Gohan ended up much stronger than he thought.
After all that though, Kid Buu does have a couple of quirks over Super Buu being much more torturous, sadistic, and dangerous since unlike Super Buu he doesn't mess around and instead gets to the point, an example being when he destroyed the planet instantly after he was reborn. Also, Kid Buu has been shown to have better regeneration abilities than every other Buu.
Finally here is a little theory I have about Kid Buu.
The reason why he never tries to absorb Goku or Vegeta is that on a subconscious level he is scared to absorb again ever since what happened when he absorbed the Kais when he became Fat Buu. Super Buu doesn't care for that as he technically is what kid buu became from absorbing the Kais (Though he had to go through some effort to become the way he wanted) and so Super Buu actually enjoys absorbing people as he enjoys having intelligence and power and even a little innocence as he is what became of all that the first time so why would he not want more?
Watching 2021?
Is Kid Buu stronger than Mystic Gohan, or are they equal?
Kid Buu is Stronger
No, kid buu is sightly weaker than Gohan but still stronger than super buu
No that part i understand and agree with. Its the part about true character and bravery. As we seen cowards and people with poor character have decent power levels.
And that part about Kai was funny since it was only like at most 5 minutes later that he teleported to the planet. Which the claim of running out of energy is also funny since there was another healer right next to him.
Am I the only one wondering when the narrator said that at the end?
Awakening Flame "Even the mighty fusion warrior Gogeta could not defeat Buu."
Sarbaṇī Paṣtun I said when, not what.
Awakening Flame Ohhh. It was probably for a video game or DB heroes, not sure. I wonder the same.
Awakening Flame Its an unused narrator quote from Budokai 3.
Sarbaṇī Paṣtun
Simple fact. Kid buu will win against any buu. Kid Buu has unlimited health, stamina, regeneration, and power. Also, the only way to kill kid Buu, is by using 100% pure energy, like the spirit bomb for example. Super Buu has more power, ability, and knowledge, but all his status is limited. Every fighter, buu absorbs, will make him stronger, more powerfull, and skilled, but it will also grant buu the weakness of every absorbed fighter, and it will limit buu status completely. Kid buu death can only be done with 100% pure energy. Super buu death can be done with (less > 100% pure energy). Kid buu > Any Buu(that absorbed)
@radafus link Super Buu is not Stronger
super buu wins
Maria Fuccillo kid buu could have an advantage
Super buu definitely wins
Yeah super buu
No Kid Buu wins
Vegeta said "should". Goku said he CAN given he would be able to power up. In either case they were able to try, while goku didnt even want to attempt to face super buu without fusion.
Keep in mind Boos body is basically puddy. It can get damaged much easier than vegeta.
I said the didnt appear to be interested in avoiding it. It was like a half hear ted attempt to get out of the way and didnt care when it did hit him. Anime fillers are useless.
Vegeta was clearly unable to even recover from the hits before he got attacked more, while Good Boo actually did get hits in while loosing power as a result of fighting another Boo. Which manga is clear that he can get hurt from.
"Even the mighty fusion warrior Gogeta could not defeat buu." where was this line from?
It was A edited voiceclip to say gogeta, I think
I think this is a cut audio from Budokai 3, that was meant to be as an alternate story from the game lol
Lol Goku in the background
Adrian, I have met many people who believe that the people forced Akira Toriyama to bring back Goku as the main character. It is true that after Cell saga, Akira intended to have Gohan be the main character. In the Kanzenshuu website, they had an interview which clearly states Akira personally felt as if Gohan was not suited to be the main character. Akira didn't get that vibe from Gohan like Goku gives off as a main character.
Also Super Buu absorbed Gohan or Gotenks is far above Kid buu. But Super Buu base with no absorption is weaker than Kid buu.
For people who say Super Buu's power increased because he went Buff and then he went way down after Kid buu appeared are mistaken. First of all, all the Kaioshin are weaker than SSJ1 Goku, seeing how no one was able to pull out the Z sword, yet SSJ 1 Gohan was able to do it and he is weaker than SSJ1 Goku. Also, he looked SSJ2 in the Anime but he was in fact SSJ1 in the manga when he pulled out the Z sword. So SSJ1 Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Kaioshin. Another evidence is when Supreme Kai was afraid to fight Pui Pui and Vegeta in Base destroyed him easily, clearly showing Vegeta base is far above Supreme kai. Since south Kai is the strongest kai known, he might be stronger than Vegeta and Goku base but not their SSJ1 form as proven above.
Also all the Kaioshin are a weakness to Buu, when he absorbed the South Kai, he became a little weaker but he was still out of control. When he absorbed the good Dai Kaioshin. That is when his power decreased drastically and he became controllable. I also know the Manga didn't state that South Kai made Kid buu a little weaker but at the same time, it didn't state he got stronger after absorbing him. Since the Kaioshin are a weakness to Buu, why would absorbing South Kai make him stronger? Even Vegito unfused after entering Buu's body when he took down his defense because of the potara earrings. Another proof is when Dabura was first introduced, he clearly states that they can't use the energy of Supreme Kai and Kabito, since they are kais. But he did say "we can use the others". If someone brings up the debate of the Kai's being too weak so that is why Dabura ignored them are incorrect. Seeing how Dabura considered Krillin and Picoolo as potential energy they can get, and they are weaker than Supreme Kai. So yeah, please understand that the Kai's are a weakness to Buu. South Kai couldn't have made Kid Buu stronger. He Either stayed the same strength or got a little weaker. When Kid buu finally appeared, not once was it stated his power dropped.
Goku and Vegeta simply underestimated Kid buu because of his size, and they stated that multiple times when fighting him. Goku also suggested bringing Gohan and Gotenks to help him out during the fight when the Earth and all of the people in it were brought back to life.
So yeah, Goku suggesting that idea of Gohan and Gotenks helping him out clearly shows us Kid Buu is the real deal, he didn't say just Gohan or just Gotenks, but both of them. Kid boo is not the strongest Buu, but he is the strongest UNFUSED Buu. Also if Kid buu were to ever return, Goku decided he would train to stop him, if Gohan and Gotenks could take care of Kid Buu, there wouldn't be much of a problem then, but that wasn't the case.
So yeah, Super Buu absorbed Gohan or Gotenks is stronger than Kid buu, but Super Buu base is weaker.
Before answering, please make sure you read this carefully cause I don't want to repeat myself.
>Vegeta tells them that "Despite their size", they're still dangerous in the case of the Cell Jr's.
Vegeta (as well as Son)completely underestimated Buu because of his size..
>It was never really shown in the manga of Buu's buff transformation after absorbing South Kai. So no one can say that that's an effect of absorbing him.Where's the scan that said "They sensed a massive power increase". Goku stated "I wish he would stop" via Buu's continuous, ear splitting scream. And Why would he revert back into his skinnier, original self if removing Fat Buu when him becoming Fat Buu wasn't due to South Kai?Also, Buu stopped the Genkai Dama for goodness sake. With Gohan's energy it...
You do make some valid points.
Vegeta blatantly wondering why they're so powerful despite their *size*
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The whole Buu vs Kid Buu is quite confusing to be honest. Thank you for being a mature debater unlike a handful of RUclipsrs.
Because he got a perfect representation of their power afterwards, of course.
i am so glad theyre are people that understand that both kais weaken kid buu, a kais energy cant be used by others. it cant be used for evil or be corrupted. its like how only gods can sense another gods ki. kid buu is in fact stronger then super buu. people bring up what goku said as theyre only defense but many feel goku didn't want to use ssj3 unless he had no other choice and doing a fusion dance was the much safer bet. he also knew ssj3 would take a little bit of time to transform and super buu would have killed him before. goku simply was playing safe at that point.
wait if supream ki said that super buu is going bck to his origanal form but kid buu is his origanal form that means they would be at the same power,speed,mind,techneck (HOW DO YOU SPELL IT AND STUFF) last but no least spirit
back*
Three years do fly by
dark buu>super baby vegeta>>baby vegeta> majuub>buuhan>buutenks>mystic gohan>ssj3 gotenks>= super buu> gt goku = ssj3 goku = original fat buu (far beyond limits)> uub >= kid buu> evil buu> good buu> majin vegeta ssj2= ssj2 goku
i did not read the manga when i was younger so i though kid buu was stronger d:
He is Stronger
@@KenyionDouglas no he isn’t
Dill Anima %100 Yes he is lol.
@@dizeated6613 proof?
Dill Anima %100 DM me on Insta: dizeated
si gogeta no pudo entonces sera vegito
kid buu would win he is way stronger
How super buu is the way stronger kid buu is just a smaller immature and more visions version then super buu
You need to read the manga again, goku said if him and Vegeta go out and fight super buu (base form) they would be killed, he said if they fight him OUTSIDE of his body, they would still die, reread the manga --->mangable.com/dragonball/chapter-507/12/
Goku said in the anime while fighting kid buu AS a ss3 that kid buu is twice as strong as before his SPEED his POWER
AK Sosa yes but he’s on about fat buu not super buu
radafus link exactly all I’m sayn is take only absorption away from super buu and kid buu is stronger from wat I’ve seen
Team 1
Kid buu: 29,000,000,000
Team 2
Super buu: 52,000,000,000
Kid Buu>Super Buu I wonder why does everyone not know that
@Dian that's right
@Dian I know Kid Buu is Stronger and his ki was Increasing
@Dian nope , buff buu was stronger in turns of raw power ( just like when trunks went buff on perfect cell ) increase of power but decrease of speed and movement .
@@MajinMist603 Buff Buu is not Stronger than Kid Buu
@Unknown Kid Buu>Buff Buu
Kid Buu + Super Buu = Dark Buu (Evil Incarnate)
Kid Buu > Buuhan > Buutenks > Super Buu > Evil Buu > Fat Buu
@Mr popo wrong he is right
@Mr popo Goku was not scared of Kid Buu because he is unfused but Goku knows Kid Buu is Stronger than Buuhan Goku fought Kid Buu easier because Kid Buu was toying with him if Kid Buu fought seriously Goku won't be able to land a punch
@Mr popo Kid Buu is the Strongest
@Dian yeah you're right Kid Buu is the Strongest
Super buu stomps
Any OG gang around that seen this 10 years ago?
لاكيد بو يمثل شر مطلق عكس سوبر بو واشكال اخرى
Buuhan > buutenks > buuiccolo > kid buu > super buu > evil buu > good buu.
If there is influence there can easily be more than one. Having an unconnected influence inside kid Boo easily explains why the Buff Boo form AND power would not be maintained.
Goku was saying the potara would have made things much easier. And nowhere did he say "toying". Official manga translation says Kid Boo was dragging it out and having fun. Which also does not mean he is toying. Kid Boo does not loose energy or get tried. That combo can easily let him have fun AND max power without stress
In short, I believe it could go either way.
Assuming that Super Buu could finish the fight quick enough, he could potentially win. However, if the fight were to drag on for too long, Kid Buu would most likely win as he simply cannot run out of stamina. Kid Buu's unpredictability may also be what determines the outcome of the fight. Other variables may come into play. For example, Super Buu, if possible, could absorb other entities to increase his power level midway through the fight.
Saying Super Buu's influences and sanity made him weaker is like saying Gohan's love and compassion made him helpless against Cell.
Gohan fought Super Buu at his most raw power when he made him angry, everybody overlooks that. That's why Gohan's not even an option for the Kid Buu fight. What sense did it make to put his teen version to fight against all odds but not have his most powerful version in the final battle?
Super Buu would destroy Kid Buu easily if he was pissed off
Those percentages are only poor assumptions. And yes. He did just stand there with his arms in the air as vegeta began his attack.
Also, NOWHERE is it even implied that Vegeta kept his majin power boost. The only thing that is there is that his was using a dead body, which uses less of the energy he does have.
Fat Boo was capable of producing a blast to which the backforce of the explosion made it hard for SSJ3 Goku to even hold his ground.
Super buu wins
ageed
agreed*
Nah
try making Evil Buu vs Super Perfect Cell
Not a question
Ok
+Pakistan Lahore cell would be completely and utterly crushed. Even though Cell is my favourite villain :P
Yeah but it would be a good fight right
Eh... Maybe not. You have to look at their power levels (even though a number system for power is completely absurd... :P)
Spoiler: Buu wins.
@Dian bc i can
Bro, why the hell are u spoiling?!
SSJ2 Vegeta was nowhere near Fat Boo. Even with the majin upgrade. Boo virtually just stood there and let Vegeta pound on him.
And even after the explosion. Boo only fired ONE mouth blast at vegeta, which was clearly meant to only draw his attention to throw his body fat and trap vegeta.
Fat Boo's Power rivaled SSJ3 Gokus. Vegeta wasnt anywhere near him.
SSJ2 Vegeta is only in the area of a little more than half of Good Boos power, and Good Boo is only half of what Kid Boo had.
The evidence is in the power increase for Gotenks. Why would Piccolo mention in increase in the base power of the kids when he was confused to hell on why they werent fusing as SSJ to begin with.
Pulling out the "plot" card is garbage. Its another way of saying you cant explain things, when the path that I have been saying DOES give reasonable explanations.
If you want to go that route then there are those that can say Kid Boo > Goku > Gohan > Super Boo because the "plot" was designed that way.
El Kid es mas fuerte
Lo dijo Goku cuando menciona
Vegito > Buuhan >> Buutenks >> Kid Buu >> Super Buu >> Fat Buu ....
This Is As Simple As That....
Prove Me That Super Buu >>> Kid Buu.... -_-
And Stop Comparing Power Levels ....
I Only Watched The Anime (With Canon) + Non Canon Cause Manga Is Not Available here. ...
In The Anime There's Nothing Like That Has been Said & Even You Could See When Supreme Kai Asked Goku If Gotenks Was Stronger Than Him Or Not Goku Just Said ==》Well, I Can Do It Too... (About SSJ 3)
That's The Fact. You See The Fans Who Don't Read Manga (Don't Have Them In Their Country ) & Watched English Dubbed Of DBZ And Toriama Himself Said That Power Levels Are Not The Way To Measure A Fighters Fighting Ability.
Besides, Battle of Gods Easily Shows Gotenks & Gohan's Present Condition Due To Lack Of Training...
I Don't Have Manga & Said It Before...
Still, Watching The Whole Buu Saga I Would Put My Money On Kid Buu...
*****
Well, Again You Guys Are Comparing Goku Ss3, Ultimate Gohan & Gotenks Ss3...
Even You Know After Watching Battle Of Gods ==》Gohan Stopped Training & Gotenks Or Gohan Couldn't Stand Against Birus..
Where Goku After Losing His God Power As The Time Ranout Hold His Own & Had A Great Fight With Birus Making Him Use His Almost 70% Of Total Power When Goku Was Just A Super Saiyan...
So That Easily Ends The Debate On How You Calculated The Power Levels On Manga.
Furthermore,, I Want A Direct Reference Where It's Stated That Super Buu Base 》》 Kid Buu.
So, Till You Find & Show It To Me Don't Compare Kid Buu With Super Buu(Base) ==》Who Is Stronger,,,, Instead Of Comparing Goku SS3,Gotenks SS3 Or Ultimate Gohan,,, Try Comparing Just Kid Buu or Super Buu... :)
kid buu would win
Yes but buutenks would completely destroy kid buu.
Prove how kid buu could win
Nayeli Hernandez how do you know that
omfg kid buu has 27 million power and super buu 70 million fucking idiots kid buu it s the first form... but kid buu it s more dangerous than the othera
So frieza is stronger than kid and super buu? Cause at full power frieza has 120-150 million.
And youve proven a single thing?
As mentioned before. It wasnt power level goku was taking the limit of. It was the Genki energy, which is only ONE component needed to generate power levels. It is a FACT that the kids didnt even transform. Showing outright it was not sheer power level being collected to the max.
And SSJ3 Goku > Kid Boo. The fight does NOT show overwise. Goku was not able to use his Full Power attack which he outright said would finish the job.
Fat Boo was clearly weaker against SSJ3 Goku. Meaning Fat Boo is LESS than x4 a SSJ2. Making a maximum of 40% that power being a noticeable bit weaker than 2x a SSJ2. Which is a power that wasnt even capable of allowing Vegeta to defend himself against any of Kid Boos attacks.
Nowhere in the manga was there a mention of Kid Boo gaining power during his battle with SSJ3 Goku, nor was there any sign of him being enraged, or even annoyed with vegeta.
First of all kid buu is the strongest buu
***** You, my friend, are 100% correct
***** 100% fact
@SlamscapeDBZ Wrong.
@@GXrevolution96 yeah
Kid buu wins
Kid Buu is physically weaker than Super Buu
@@donathan2933 no
Kenyion Douglas yes he is. Goku is slight stronger/just as strong as Kid Buu but he himself said that with the combined strength of him and Goku ain’t enough to beat Super Buu
@@donathan2933 Goku is not Stronger than Kid Buu and Kid Buu>Super Buu
Kenyion Douglas Goku is stronger than Kid Buu but weaker than Super Buu
Super Buuhan> Super Buutenks> Kid Buu> Super Buu > Mean Skinny Buu > Fat Buu >
Mean Skinny Buu overpowered Good Fat Buu.
When Super Buu transformed into South Supreme Kai buff Buu they said his power was Increasing! Then when he went to Kid Buu, they never said his power went down. Vegeta, Goku even Mr Hercule + dead People on the Great Kai Planet were all Confident because of Kid Buu's size but Nobody could sense his power level because he was hiding it Except the Supreme Kai, who said "This (kid)Buu is even more Powerful! & without good Fat Buu he's Pure Unrestrained Evil. He didn't even waste time destroying the earth & other planets. Keep in mind Super Buu had Fat Buu in him which weakened him. Kid Buu got rid of Fat Buu.
After re-watching the Buu saga, It is stated a few times that Kid Buu is the strongest natural Buu (besides Piccolo/ Gotenks/Gohan absorbed)
Evil Kid Buu toyed around & destroyed Good Fat Buu again.
Kid Buu is actually slightly a stronger fighter than Ultimate Gohan I would say because of Buu's absorption, regeneration, stamina, ultimate attacks & other body abilities + Gohan hadn't been training, And If Gohan was "WAY" Stronger they would've taken him back to the battle when he was wished back ;) to defeat Buu but they saw that Kid Buu was just too strong even for him.
Kid Buu wasn't scared or phased at all & even laughed when Goku transformed into a SSJ3 (who isn't much weaker than Ult Gohan) and made fun of Goku during battle even getting bored. Goku never did any permanent damage against kid buu, but kid Buu did lots damage to SSJ3Goku, forcing Goku to take a break. Kid Buu didn't even use 100% of his powers against SSJ3 Goku Until the Spirit Bomb which he pushed back with force until Goku got All his Saiyan powers back and Still used them All up Again just to finish Kid Buu off.
+Charlie Johnson no kid buu its the strongest buus
+Charlie Johnson Goku is not one to laugh at opponent's size. He warned everyone that the Cell Jrs size didn't matter because they were strong. So when he says "we did it" he is talking about Buu's power becoming WEAKER than before.
Charlie Football it's evil buu
Gohans group did not even give their max energy. Not only where they flying around the planet after giving a portion, but also the kids didnt fuse to supply their maximum power. They didnt even turn SSJ.
Ultimate Gohan >>>>> Super Boo. MANGA FACT
Super Boo >>>> SSJ3 Goku. MANGA FACT.
Goku was certain a Full Power attack from SSJ3 could have killed Kid boo. MANGA FACT
Good Boo had only half the power of SSJ3 Goku was capable of holding off Kid Boo. MANGA FACT.
Gohan > Super Boo > Goku > Kid Boo
Pushing back the spirit bomb doesnt mean SHIT since the manga is very clear kid boo was only capable of doing it because the lack of power that goku had left in base form.
and yea. Kid Boo was suppressing his power while going through an extremely stressful transformation. you keep thinking that.
And you are saying thats how much he was using. Because for Goku to be able to battle a power super than Super Boo like he did, Kid Boo would have to have been using less than 10% his not. Not Happenin
Kid boo is stronger!!!!!
no
Omar Momo BULLSHIT
Omar Momo Yep
Kid buu > super buu > evil buu > fat buu
Kid Buu is not more powerful than Super Buu, stop watching the enemies fucked up Dubs and read the manga. Kid Buu was just more dangerous and wreckless, immature, and more emotionless, he wasn't a better fighter nore had more power.
Gohan Buu
Gotenks Buu
Piccolo Buu
Super Buu
Kid Buu
Evil Buu
Majin Buu
And that's that. Do your research, it is obvious so.
Mike Wins in the anime , goku said to kid buu that he are the most powerfull buu forms , i dont care by the ''logic'' , its just a anime , fuck the logic , kid buu is the strongest buu , if you go with the DBZ logic , yamcha are stronger than vegeta -.-'' its just a cartoon , in some parts make no sense , but goku said that kid buu is stronger , you can watch in episode 280 .. i dont care what they said in the manga , the anime is oficial just like the manga is , if he is stronger in the anime , fuck the mangá , i prefer watch the anime than the mangá -.-''
Mike Wins you dont have more arguments???goku said in episode 280 that kid buu is stronger and faster than all the other buus...and make no sense super buu transform in a weaker form.. so your ''manga'' arguments is just a bullshit...
joao moreli Where is the logic in that? He said that IN THE FUCKED UP AMERICAN DUB, when Super Buu was transforming into Kid Buu, just like he said "You don't expect to beat me like that do you..." to Piccolo Buu after the Gotenks Fusion wore off, they say these things to spice it up, really he said "Gohan could take it from here." Piccolo Buu would woop SSJ3 Goku, and Super Buu and him would be almost even, but SSJ3 Gotenks could maintain his SSJ3 for a longer period of time without losing energy, Goku cannot, Gotenks would beat SSJ3 Goku if he fought serious enough.
Mike Wins you are going by the anime ''logic'' im going by the facts.. in some times , kuririn or yamcha hold a enemies more longer than vegeta or goku , is just a anime , fuck the logic man -.-'' in portuguese , japanese and english DUB , goku said the samething to kid buu in episode 280 , he said that kid buu are stronger than all the other buu''s , so your arguments by the ''logic'' makes no sense , its only a cartoon -.-''
kid bu win
Goku always said during battles that he was enjoying the challenge.
And again. Kid Boo can use all his power without stress. It does NOT mean was he suppressing. And he definitely was not using less than 10% his power, which is what he would have had to been using for goku to have the upper hand AND be stronger than Super Boo.
And the garbage line is NOT working. You cannot display the power of a form without being in the form yet. The increase quote was ONLY when Buff Boo was forming.
It was stated that Fat Boo decreased the power while he was in Buff Boo form. They never mentioned anything about South Kai having no affect on Boo.
And influence from the Good Boo pad was STILL there. that is a fact. Or else Kid Boo never would have been prevented from attacking mr satan.
They did laugh at the size. But never wouldve done so if he was still displaying a power far greater than theirs. As I said before, you didnt see them laughing at the cell jr. from with the power they had.
Enough if the BS south kai comment. that is the only thing you constant regurgitate over and over and it doesnt mean jack shit. South and Dia kia physically dont exists anymore. The kia absorptions were not normal absorptions and affected boo differently than the normal fighters. They mentioned the power increase because his power increased AS BUFF BOO. South kai was not some jolly pure hearted being, he was a warrior. Not all of his essence would be contained in only the good boo pod.