I have the exact same truck. Exactly, color, model, engine, options everything. It is a beast!! Towed my harley with my 7x16' toy hauler out to the black hills and performed flawlessly. Got about 12mpg. With the electronic transfer cases, when you shift just be below 35mph and you should have no trouble, that is from the regional mopar rep. I also love the trans brake in this truck, kept truck from picking up speed down hills while towing and doesn't roll back on inclines with a load. Btw, you're not fooling anybody :)
It appears you have the tradesman trim level. Most of the things you don’t like would be fixed with a higher trim level. You can’t get champagne on a beer budget.
Thanks for the review. It makes me happy that I didn't buy the Tradesman and went with the 2022 Laramie 2500HD with the group level B package. First ever truck. Bought it so the wife and I could tow a camper and see the world and not have to worry about finding a baby sitter for our dog. :)
I have the same truck as you. The only difference between mine and yours I have the offroad package with the Bilstein shocks and the gooseneck and fifth wheel hookups. I love my truck. The first time I saw this color I fell in love with it. Actually this is my second truck this year. I had the first one for six days and had less than 500 miles. Got hit by a 18 wheeler almost head on at 70 mph. My truck rolled 3 times. I do believe with all the safety features that truck saved my life. I have only towed one time with mine. It was about 4000 pounds and I had to remind myself that I was towing a trailer. It pulls great. I know what you are talking about with the mirrors. I don't care for them.
Man you rip the truck over the chrome! It looks great,the black nose looks terrible says fleet truck all over it. I do like body color, you could have got that in a different trim level . 8:50 the raptor does have the federally required marker lights they are in grille,they are not required to be on the cab roof,just visible from the front of the vehicle
Yeah you’re either a black front end guy or a chrome guy or a painted to match guy haha. Don’t fault you for like the chrome. It’s definitely clean. Just not my style. Thanks 👍
I had the 2016 Laramie 1500 and it had the dual front buckets with the center console. I now have the 2019 Bighorn Cummins. It has the bench seat. I like the bench seat . When I back my RV in at home, I like to have the left side close to the wall. I can pop up the arm rest and easily slide over to the right side or vis a versa. The fixed console in the 2016 made it very difficult.
The Tradesman is the best deal in these trucks. But like others pointed out many of the issues you mentioned are addressed in the other packages and trim levels. The problem I had with this is that in some cases things I really love about the Tradesman are not available once you add some of the packages or go up a trim level. Worse yet I would end up with a LOT of stuff that I don't want. In the end I chose to accept the compromises of the Tradesman in the more basic packages and trim than to give up the things I love about the base level Tradesman. Things that I would have liked would have been that middle under seat storage, the in the floor storage bins in the back floor, the split rear bench so you can open just part of it if you want. The fold out platform that makes a level back loading floor in the rear. Those would have been nice and are available, but I wasn't willing to pony up for the packages and trim level. That being said Ram has thought those things through and will give it to you for the money. In many cases they add on lots of stuff I just don't want to get those things. So in the end I chose to accept the mostly base level truck. Adding that tailgate damper looks like an easy modification to address like you did. In the end I still feel like these are minor annoyances in my case. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your truck. We each have our own likes and dislikes so it is interesting to hear others views on these things and possibly work arounds and solutions to issues.
Depending on the work you are willing to do/have done you are better off buying a Tradesman and upgrading everything. With forums there is a guide for everything now
I've got the same truck only 2019, with 4.5 readylift and 37s, . Had a local shop color match the bumpers and grill, door handles and OEM style fender flares. Get you a pulsar module, MBRP exhaust and intake. You won't be sorry. The 6.4 can flat out move in performance MDS off mode even with 37s. Oh yeah, get the piston for the tailgate for soft opening.
I have a 2024, 2500 Hemi. I don’t like the rotary dial transmission control knob, truth is, I’d rather have a clutch pedal and a 5-6 speed standard transmission. I also would have preferred a tailgate latch, but otherwise I like the truck. It drives like a truck, carries a load like a truck and that’s what I bought it for. Also I like the chrome front grill trim, I think that is a generational thing, cause my son likes the cheap looking black fleet style. And because my truck is for work and hauling, I didn’t get a truck with a backseat. Got a regular cab with a 8’box that I can actually put stuff in. If I wanted to run a taxi service, I’d have bought a van.
I'll take chrome over painted every time. Every painted I've had has rusted out very quickly and look like hell after a couple years. I'm in the rusty state of Minnesota
I picked up a very similar 2500 Tradesman last week (color and all). Having had a 5th gen 1500 previously, learning to deal with the similar frustrations was a bit easier, especially with the shifter. Wait until you back up with thebdoor open. Over 2 mph itll auto park and is SO irritating. They took the opening consol under the middle seat away. My 1500 had it. The 60/40 rear seat... oh how I agree!
As far as the steering wheel mounted audio controls are concerned, you most definitely can get them in a tradesman. They were a part of the “Safety Group”. And for the rear step, I had a similar experience with my finger getting caught on the sharp plastic bumper valance. I have found the easiest way to close it is to push it in with the side of your knee. Face the drivers side tail light, place your hand on the corner of the bed, and just swing your body so the outside of your knee gives it that nice little bump to close it. Closes far easier than trying to use your foot.
Hey Matt, this is very interesting about the buttons. I wonder if the steering wheel is wired up and you just need to get the buttons. I’m going to research this. Thank you!
@@NickMango I wondered the same thing, but never looked into it. Let me know what you find! It would be nice to have, but the newest vehicle I’ve owned other than my 2021 2500 CCLB Tradesman was a 97 Ford. I’m not accustomed to all the bells and whistles added over the last 25 years haha.
OK I figure it out. You need to remove the steering wheel. It's hard to tell but the plastic piece that needs to be replaced is bolted to the column behind the steering wheel. Real pain in the ass unfortunately.
I smashed my thumb as well on that damn back step. A lady in the parking lot had her step extended and she couldn’t get it back up so I offered to help. I couldn’t figure it out and used my hand and “BAM!” That thing went up so fast and smashed me pretty bad. Before I even realized what happened and the shock wore off, the lady sped away without so much as a Thanks.
Great list - especially important if considering the Tradesman. I got a 21 Big Horn with equipment group B and a few other features, and most of your issues would go away. I also have the bucket with console, and the gear shift makes so much sense with how MASSIVE the storage is - everytime I see a console shifter now I think what a waste of space lol. I also disagree about the mirrors. I had a 1500 before this with the same mirrors, and absolutely love them. When folded down in normal mode, the convex mirror is still out enough to see around my trailer. I also got the tow tech package, so those convex mirrors are power. I know what you’re saying about the big mirrors being zoomed in, but still I find it works for me. Btw, I also think the chrome looks great. Oddly, because it’s so hard to find a truck on the lots, I ended up paying for a night edition package - so zero chrome lol (I didn’t want to do factory order, and I ended up going to a dealer over 2 hours away). Anyway, good review, and your point about the step is a great one. I like the step, and easy enough now I know how it works - but it definitely springs back with force!
I bought my 2020 Ram2500 off the lot and it has small mirrors like the 1500. Didn’t realize it till later. Kind of glad I didn’t go back and make them put the big ones on.
Your right Larmime corrects your most all your issues. The only issue I have with my Larmime is it has only one 12v connection inside the cab. You get what you pay for.
You can get the features you dont like but you have to step up to bighorn For a base model truck no one comes close to Ram for options!....and I am a GM guy
You can get a few but it’s a lot of money to pay for some steering wheel buttons and under seat storage. The big horn is sort of a rip off in my opinion. Well maybe it’s not a rip off, more like the tradesman is really powerful for the money.
With all due respect, I do not understand why you bought it. Some will say perhaps a different trim level, I don't know, but, personally, most of those things that you mentioned might just be the way this truck was configured. Personally, I would have looked at least 1 tier up in trim level, to get the desired features. Just my opinion, but, if it doesn't work for you, perhaps you should consider another brand. I fail to understand the logic here.... And, these are trucks, not cars! They are meant for work. I have not yet heard any problems working as a truck. Be thankful for what you have, or trade it...
I have the exact same truck. Mine is a 2023 and love it. Traded my 2019 f-150 for ram 2500. I always had f-150’s. But the price of those fords are ridiculous.
2020 ram tradesmen power wagon no problems no complaints love it. Maybe you need to trade yours in on a Chevrolet or Ford it seems u don’t like it!🤷♂️
I believe even if you go up to the next trim level(big horn) a lot of the issues you mention are solved. Steering wheel controls, under seat storage, 60/40 rear seat, dampened tailgate,
Not a lot, just a few and not the big ones. The issue with the big horn is it’s impossible to find. There were some must haves for me and the tradesman is really the only way to get them unless you order. But either way, spending 10k more for steering wheel buttons and under seat storage isn’t the smart purchase. The tradesman, even with it’s short comings, is the best deal by far.
Agree on the darn chrome! It's hard to avoid it even if you special order. I didn't get the full camera package on my 2021 because the chrome was a prerequisite. I really love the look of mine, once I added aftermarket wheels. The factory soft close for the tailgate is a cheap, easy install. Also agree on the mirrors, but I did at least get the lane change warning feature.
I drove the other day a 2022 Ram 2500 Series 4x4 Crew Cab. Just the feel of it. Like just about everything about the truck especially the back seat configuration of it. Had no trouble with the mirrors. Had plenty of power. I wanted the console up front. I'm sure you can find issues with every truck you drive.
In August I bought a fully loaded 2019 1500 limited, with a center seat (I swear this must be the only one made without the center console, took me forever to find one! ) Same mirrors, and I absolutely detest them. I use them in tow mode and for the passenger mirror I completely rely on the blind spot mirror and looking around 4 times to double check - does great things to my herniated disc. Gear dial, yep, I've left it in gear way too many times! The items you mentioned later...I have media controls on my steering wheel and a 60/40 rear split seat. And while I wish the center storage was a little bigger, I'm still happy to be able to fit 3 people in the front. You're right, locking storage would be nice. The 1500 doesn't have a hump in the back. As someone who has some pretty serious hand issues, having the button instead of latch for the tailgate is actually a huge thing for me (but mine doesn't slam down either). My old ram had the latch and I really struggled with it. I wish I had the bed step, but now I see how it closes in not sure I want it. They need to steal the built-in bumper step idea that everyone else uses. And yes, you will wind up with a dead battery if you leave it in gear. About 15 minutes after I forgot to throw it in park and left my truck one time, my husband told me my stereo was on. I was floored that they would design it that way.
Just a question, U didn’t notice the radio kept playing and bells were chirping after U opened the door??? 🤷🏻♂️ Everytime U shut down right ( meaning put the truck in park, and hit the start / off button ) the Truck powers off the radio and nothing chirps when U open the door…One of the reasons they did that was trying to remind U to grab your Key Fob because if U didn’t have time or forgot to put the truck in park U probably forgot your keys too..
I bought the GMC look mirrors fit for the Ram. Love them! Boost auto starting at 460.00. Plus you can get a Obd2 adapter and an app on a tablet and program other upgrades that may not have been there before like power mirrors if you purchase the upgraded mirrors
I have the Boost GM Style Mirrors and will never look back. I Color Match mine and upgraded to Power Fold There is nothing like them. I only had one Dodge guy in a year tell me they done look right, My response to him was as opposed to looking like an ELK driving down the Road............ Its all about Safety and the OEM RAM mirrors are not safe at all, there is no getting use to them in my opinion.
Plasti-Dip the chrome to black if you don't like it. I did it on my 2016 RAM Tradesman and it holds up very, very well. And you won't have to spend hundreds or thousands to do it.
You forgot no elexteic unlock and lock button in the back door. You have to manually pull up the lever or push down. Only the front has the option to unlock or lock the back doors. I hate the mirrors and want to fix them. I might wrap the chrome as well. I have the 21 tradesman
Hmm I dunno if this makes a double I didn’t mean to all you have to do is tape off your radiator and spray the chrome with plastidip they have mat black and gloss black and a lot of other colors then just peel it off when your done they have a kit where you can put the gmc mirrors on instead.
Other than the two mirrors sucking balls the truck is great for the price, though volume adjustments on the wheel would certainly be nice as a standard feature
Someone showed me how to adjust the tow mirrors in the down position using the little mirror.. They are amazing and I can't go back to the other mirrors now. You basically take the little mirror and you keep it so it's focused 100% on the next lanes to you. The little ones should NOT be in our lane at all. Then with the big and little, you see everything. I was amazed.
My '22 Big Horn 2500 with the cummins has the "sport package" so my bumpers are color matched. I actually prefer the chrome though. That's just how this one came.
Mirrors definitely aren't great, I think I pretty much have settled on putting them in the non towing position even when towing my 21 foot boat and I just turn the larger portion on the passenger side to where it can see as far out as possible while just barely keeping a portion of the truck in view and use the small portion as blind spot type mirrors though blind spots are still somewhat of a concern for really short vehicles
Mirrors do SUCK!!! Most everything else is just the cheaper packages. My Laramie has the soft drop tailgate, shifter on the column and I would pay extra to NOT have chrome. My 2020 Cummins is black night edition with black appearance package. She's a sexy towing beast!!!
@@NickMango there should be a ball mount on the bottom of the tailgate pivot waaay down in where it’s open to the ground and a ball mount near the tailight opening ..Got pics ? I did it on a 21
I do have one ball mount attached to the hinge, but there isn’t a second. The second one is usually at the top on an L bracket. Nothing on my end. Maybe I can order it. Let you know.
@@NickMango ok... I had to go back and look... the bracket on the tailgate hinge is the top of this soft open setup... the lower ball mount is deeeeeep down in the fender, the damper goes down below the tail light opening (follow the orientation on the damper, which I believe puts the boot down). Look down in there and where you can see light coming up from the ground, get under there and put your hand in that gap (from the bottom) and you'll feel it, snap the top of the damper on the tailgate, have someone move the gate while you orient the bottom end of it on there and you should be good
I bought a ‘22 Laramie level B diesel. My biggest thing is I got the box with the gooseneck ball and hooks in it. The truck has under seat and underfloor storage. None of those compartments can hold that storage box. It would not take minimal rocket science to design it to store that stuff.
My 21 Ram 2500 tradesman has chrome package too. I agonized over it when I ordered it (because it’s ugly lol) but the durability factor for rock chips/causing rust on bumpers/wheels (I live in rust belt) won and I got it on there.
I got mine for $49,900 wich if you compare other new trucks an f150 with steel wheels, no back seats , black plastic no 4x4 and a v6 is almost 60k !?They can keep em..I only wish my 6.4 hemi was non MDS!!
I learned a very valuable lesson as a young man, U have to pay to get exactly what U want.. I ordered My 2022 Ram 2500 Power Wagon..🤷🏻♂️ And I don’t think Chrome is a Upgrade IMO, Chrome looked great on Vintage all steel or aluminum vehicles not on the new plastic vehicles.. JMO And U gotta use what U have with the mirror and I do fine 🤷🏻♂️ and my PW has power mirrors, and Volume buttons on the steering wheel, and the bench seat does have a lift up storage seat, and U get fold out flat floor in a PW or Big Horn and Up I believe, and U don’t have a soft opening tailgate because it’s a TRADESMAN!!!!🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ And U won’t be able to leave unless your totally 100% not paying attention, It makes loud and ungodly chirps until U do what’s needed..🤷🏻♂️ And the step isn’t made for hand closing!!! Kick it like a man!!!🤦🏻♂️😂 U don’t get a lot of options with a Entry Level Trim Package!!! Are U new????🤷🏻♂️😂
I HATE the mirror too!. The fix is to buy the 1500 ram mirrors. The whole thing. Thats what i am gonna do. They have videos on how to swap from the 1500 mirrors to the 2500 tow mirrors. Just do the reverse.
great to realized im not crazy to think something was off on those mirrors. I almost crashed 2 times trying to figure them out. on horizontal position, they have a HUGE blind spot. I have to used them on horizontal position and it solved most of it. so, thank you for letting me know im not going crazy On the tail gate... I would like to find the product manager who make that decision and just talk for a bit. not punch him. lets just have a talk because something is off up there.
Completely agree about the chrome and the mirrors!! My Tradesman came with black, no chrome and I think it looks much better that way. Did you ever solve the mirror problem? I like the close in mirrors on my 2001 Ram 2500, any chance those would fit?
I tried to find a mirror to fit in that spot, that wasn’t a zoomed in one, but couldn’t. It’s really frustrating. If you find something let me know. Thanks
Mopar has been that way for years they don't cross reference their parts but they can look it up they just don't like to... but my parts guy is a champ and he'll do it and if yours will not walk out into the sales lot find one in the color you want and take them the VIN number but be careful some parts do not interchange between models and trim levels... an example being Factory fender flares... if you didn't order them you ain't getting them
Beatific truck and I totally agree. I hate the chrome. First thing I would do is plasti dip or vinyl wrap the front pieces and get an aftermarket front and back bumper.
Where I live in Canada it's hard to find a tradesman that doesn't have the cheap looking flat black front end and bumpers. I'm by no means a chrome kind of guy but I couldn't get the flat black front grill/bumpers. I would be paint matching them asap lol.
Today's paints don't hold up to road debris. Put 10K miles on a painted grille & bumper p/u and see all the chips incurred. Chrome will look much nicer with mileage on it.
Mine is also 2021. Can't agree more on the backseat. And one for me you didn't point out is the hitch. It's so close to the bumper you can hardly put the cotter key through the pin. Mine also has a weak spot on the roof I found while washing it. If you push on it at all about a 10 inch round dent pops in it. Still waiting to hear a reply on it from ram.
I pull a 42' trailer, and those tow mirrors are MONEY under tow. I do agree it feels like people are up your ass until you get used to gaging your corners. I've gotten used to using them in horizontal configuration because I like them tucked closer when I'm not under tow.
If you would have upped to a big horn trim you would have solved 70% of your complaints, a little more research before you pull the trigger is the key to avoiding most of your dislikes 👍 jmo
Has anyone noticed the blind spot as someone is coming on the passenger side specifically? I feel I can see them up to about the side of the truck. And can barely see if look really hard on that side as there is a spot where they disappear
Sounds to me like you are weekend warrior ,not really a person that uses truck for work. I have virtually same truck but 3500 and none of those things bother me
Yes, paint does stick to it, take it to a good body guy. If you don't get the chrome package, it's the cheap looking plastic because it is a base. It really looks bad with the plastic. Youbdont have to get the grill suroud from the dealer. You can either take it off and get it painted, it's not hard. YOU can order it from Mopar. Your dealer is awful of they can't do it.
You bought the lowest trim level and expected it to have all the bells and whistles. Tradesman= cheap, low budget truck. Next time get the limited and it will solve all these problems.
It seems you have personal issues that can’t be blamed on the truck. Especially the mirror thing .. I mean wtf? I’ve had an 04 2500 and now a 17 2500 Laramie. Awesome trucks . My only complaint on the 17 is the lever shifter has a button for low 1&2.
Dude My phone fell off the dash and hit and turned the shifter knob to park while i was pulling out almost got me killed!!!! stopped me dead in the middle of a 2 lane with cars coming in both lanes! It was scary as hell!!
Gotta agree about the tailgate very dumb, the amp research steps are much better softer easier to operate and 30% larger step pad and they make a side step that is awesome to get in the front of the from the best $200 bucks (roughly) I spent I’m 5,9 so it’s not easy for anyone under 6,1
They sure do a good job of shafting the buyer who wants a nice work truck. The seat in the back should be a split bench. The ford xl has a split rear sear and it is the lowest model they offer. Trim levels shouldn't mean usability but instead convenience. The tradesman dodges are all thousands more than an xl ford even after adding the stx appearance package. Maybe it is the huge display screen or something. With all the ford dealers trying to rip you off by selling a 50,500 dollar truck for 55,500 I have had decided turn my gaze to the rams. The tradesman seems much more like an xlt and comes in a little under the price. The ford scam artists are selling an xlt for about the price of what a lariat should be. I am looking forward to when supply catches up with demand. I might just wait to shop around and pinch every nickel I can out of their pockets.
Top 10 Things I LOVE about the Ram 2500!!
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Moral to the story…… it’s a tradesman! Split bench I totally agree with. A lot of the other complaints change your tampon! 😜
I guess you should have bought a different truck - or- you didn’t do your research. Get over it.
You don't get it.
These dealers make you buy ridiculous packages to get things you want and impossible to customize yourself.
Fiat crap
Higher trim values don’t correct these issues: ruclips.net/video/Qyy3Z6IERT0/видео.htmlsi=UZTO3fj2X5j53L-h
I have the exact same truck. Exactly, color, model, engine, options everything. It is a beast!! Towed my harley with my 7x16' toy hauler out to the black hills and performed flawlessly. Got about 12mpg. With the electronic transfer cases, when you shift just be below 35mph and you should have no trouble, that is from the regional mopar rep. I also love the trans brake in this truck, kept truck from picking up speed down hills while towing and doesn't roll back on inclines with a load. Btw, you're not fooling anybody :)
It appears you have the tradesman trim level. Most of the things you don’t like would be fixed with a higher trim level. You can’t get champagne on a beer budget.
Unless you buy the High Life
Thanks for the review. It makes me happy that I didn't buy the Tradesman and went with the 2022 Laramie 2500HD with the group level B package. First ever truck. Bought it so the wife and I could tow a camper and see the world and not have to worry about finding a baby sitter for our dog. :)
25 mins of whining.. The mirrors are fine and the Chrome looks good to most of us. Biggest problem I see with your truck is it's not a Cummins
I have the same truck as you. The only difference between mine and yours I have the offroad package with the Bilstein shocks and the gooseneck and fifth wheel hookups. I love my truck. The first time I saw this color I fell in love with it. Actually this is my second truck this year. I had the first one for six days and had less than 500 miles. Got hit by a 18 wheeler almost head on at 70 mph. My truck rolled 3 times. I do believe with all the safety features that truck saved my life. I have only towed one time with mine. It was about 4000 pounds and I had to remind myself that I was towing a trailer. It pulls great. I know what you are talking about with the mirrors. I don't care for them.
Terry! Happy you’re ok. Glad you love the truck and thanks for the comment.
Man you rip the truck over the chrome! It looks great,the black nose looks terrible says fleet truck all over it. I do like body color, you could have got that in a different trim level . 8:50 the raptor does have the federally required marker lights they are in grille,they are not required to be on the cab roof,just visible from the front of the vehicle
Yeah you’re either a black front end guy or a chrome guy or a painted to match guy haha. Don’t fault you for like the chrome. It’s definitely clean. Just not my style. Thanks 👍
I had the 2016 Laramie 1500 and it had the dual front buckets with the center console. I now have the 2019 Bighorn Cummins. It has the bench seat. I like the bench seat . When I back my RV in at home, I like to have the left side close to the wall. I can pop up the arm rest and easily slide over to the right side or vis a versa. The fixed console in the 2016 made it very difficult.
LOL, just found out that my mirrors move... So totally worth watching, that item of Hate just turned into an item of Love.
I love my 2500 hemi. No complaints
This guy just amazing shake my head
The Tradesman is the best deal in these trucks. But like others pointed out many of the issues you mentioned are addressed in the other packages and trim levels. The problem I had with this is that in some cases things I really love about the Tradesman are not available once you add some of the packages or go up a trim level. Worse yet I would end up with a LOT of stuff that I don't want. In the end I chose to accept the compromises of the Tradesman in the more basic packages and trim than to give up the things I love about the base level Tradesman. Things that I would have liked would have been that middle under seat storage, the in the floor storage bins in the back floor, the split rear bench so you can open just part of it if you want. The fold out platform that makes a level back loading floor in the rear. Those would have been nice and are available, but I wasn't willing to pony up for the packages and trim level. That being said Ram has thought those things through and will give it to you for the money. In many cases they add on lots of stuff I just don't want to get those things. So in the end I chose to accept the mostly base level truck. Adding that tailgate damper looks like an easy modification to address like you did. In the end I still feel like these are minor annoyances in my case. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your truck. We each have our own likes and dislikes so it is interesting to hear others views on these things and possibly work arounds and solutions to issues.
Depending on the work you are willing to do/have done you are better off buying a Tradesman and upgrading everything. With forums there is a guide for everything now
I've got the same truck only 2019, with 4.5 readylift and 37s, . Had a local shop color match the bumpers and grill, door handles and OEM style fender flares. Get you a pulsar module, MBRP exhaust and intake. You won't be sorry. The 6.4 can flat out move in performance MDS off mode even with 37s. Oh yeah, get the piston for the tailgate for soft opening.
you can get a vin number from any where in 2 seconds. go to carmax find the truck with the trim you want, and the vin is rite there on the page.
I have a 2024, 2500 Hemi. I don’t like the rotary dial transmission control knob, truth is, I’d rather have a clutch pedal and a 5-6 speed standard transmission. I also would have preferred a tailgate latch, but otherwise I like the truck. It drives like a truck, carries a load like a truck and that’s what I bought it for. Also I like the chrome front grill trim, I think that is a generational thing, cause my son likes the cheap looking black fleet style. And because my truck is for work and hauling, I didn’t get a truck with a backseat. Got a regular cab with a 8’box that I can actually put stuff in. If I wanted to run a taxi service, I’d have bought a van.
I'll take chrome over painted every time. Every painted I've had has rusted out very quickly and look like hell after a couple years. I'm in the rusty state of Minnesota
I picked up a very similar 2500 Tradesman last week (color and all). Having had a 5th gen 1500 previously, learning to deal with the similar frustrations was a bit easier, especially with the shifter. Wait until you back up with thebdoor open. Over 2 mph itll auto park and is SO irritating.
They took the opening consol under the middle seat away. My 1500 had it. The 60/40 rear seat... oh how I agree!
You’re right, the reverse door open safety feature needs some sort of override.
As far as the steering wheel mounted audio controls are concerned, you most definitely can get them in a tradesman. They were a part of the “Safety Group”. And for the rear step, I had a similar experience with my finger getting caught on the sharp plastic bumper valance. I have found the easiest way to close it is to push it in with the side of your knee. Face the drivers side tail light, place your hand on the corner of the bed, and just swing your body so the outside of your knee gives it that nice little bump to close it. Closes far easier than trying to use your foot.
Hey Matt, this is very interesting about the buttons. I wonder if the steering wheel is wired up and you just need to get the buttons. I’m going to research this. Thank you!
@@NickMango I wondered the same thing, but never looked into it. Let me know what you find! It would be nice to have, but the newest vehicle I’ve owned other than my 2021 2500 CCLB Tradesman was a 97 Ford. I’m not accustomed to all the bells and whistles added over the last 25 years haha.
OK I figure it out. You need to remove the steering wheel. It's hard to tell but the plastic piece that needs to be replaced is bolted to the column behind the steering wheel. Real pain in the ass unfortunately.
I smashed my thumb as well on that damn back step. A lady in the parking lot had her step extended and she couldn’t get it back up so I offered to help. I couldn’t figure it out and used my hand and “BAM!” That thing went up so fast and smashed me pretty bad.
Before I even realized what happened and the shock wore off, the lady sped away without so much as a Thanks.
Great list - especially important if considering the Tradesman. I got a 21 Big Horn with equipment group B and a few other features, and most of your issues would go away. I also have the bucket with console, and the gear shift makes so much sense with how MASSIVE the storage is - everytime I see a console shifter now I think what a waste of space lol. I also disagree about the mirrors. I had a 1500 before this with the same mirrors, and absolutely love them. When folded down in normal mode, the convex mirror is still out enough to see around my trailer. I also got the tow tech package, so those convex mirrors are power. I know what you’re saying about the big mirrors being zoomed in, but still I find it works for me. Btw, I also think the chrome looks great. Oddly, because it’s so hard to find a truck on the lots, I ended up paying for a night edition package - so zero chrome lol (I didn’t want to do factory order, and I ended up going to a dealer over 2 hours away). Anyway, good review, and your point about the step is a great one. I like the step, and easy enough now I know how it works - but it definitely springs back with force!
Every time I heard "VIN Number" I took a shot. I died 4 minutes in....:D
I bought my 2020 Ram2500 off the lot and it has small mirrors like the 1500. Didn’t realize it till later. Kind of glad I didn’t go back and make them put the big ones on.
Your right Larmime corrects your most all your issues. The only issue I have with my Larmime is it has only one 12v connection inside the cab. You get what you pay for.
You can get the features you dont like but you have to step up to bighorn
For a base model truck no one comes close to Ram for options!....and I am a GM guy
You can get a few but it’s a lot of money to pay for some steering wheel buttons and under seat storage. The big horn is sort of a rip off in my opinion. Well maybe it’s not a rip off, more like the tradesman is really powerful for the money.
With all due respect, I do not understand why you bought it. Some will say perhaps a different trim level, I don't know, but, personally, most of those things that you mentioned might just be the way this truck was configured. Personally, I would have looked at least 1 tier up in trim level, to get the desired features. Just my opinion, but, if it doesn't work for you, perhaps you should consider another brand. I fail to understand the logic here.... And, these are trucks, not cars! They are meant for work. I have not yet heard any problems working as a truck. Be thankful for what you have, or trade it...
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The mirror comments are spot on. The mirrors on the 23s are awesome. It was one of the primary improvements for me- I hated my old tow mirrors.
I have the exact same truck. Mine is a 2023 and love it. Traded my 2019 f-150 for ram 2500. I always had f-150’s. But the price of those fords are ridiculous.
2020 ram tradesmen power wagon no problems no complaints love it. Maybe you need to trade yours in on a Chevrolet or Ford it seems u don’t like it!🤷♂️
I don’t like it. I love it! 🎉🎉🎉
It's a tradesman. If you want options you have to step up in trim packaging
I believe even if you go up to the next trim level(big horn) a lot of the issues you mention are solved. Steering wheel controls, under seat storage, 60/40 rear seat, dampened tailgate,
Not a lot, just a few and not the big ones. The issue with the big horn is it’s impossible to find. There were some must haves for me and the tradesman is really the only way to get them unless you order. But either way, spending 10k more for steering wheel buttons and under seat storage isn’t the smart purchase. The tradesman, even with it’s short comings, is the best deal by far.
@@NickMango tradesman definitely is the best deal, that’s why I own one👍
The mirrors are not bad I own a 2022 ram 2500 an have no issue with the mirrors. Y’all just gotta change ur tampons
Agree on the darn chrome! It's hard to avoid it even if you special order. I didn't get the full camera package on my 2021 because the chrome was a prerequisite. I really love the look of mine, once I added aftermarket wheels. The factory soft close for the tailgate is a cheap, easy install. Also agree on the mirrors, but I did at least get the lane change warning feature.
I drove the other day a 2022 Ram 2500 Series 4x4 Crew Cab. Just the feel of it. Like just about everything about the truck especially the back seat configuration of it. Had no trouble with the mirrors. Had plenty of power. I wanted the console up front. I'm sure you can find issues with every truck you drive.
Have you looked into the Boost tow mirrors?
In August I bought a fully loaded 2019 1500 limited, with a center seat (I swear this must be the only one made without the center console, took me forever to find one! ) Same mirrors, and I absolutely detest them. I use them in tow mode and for the passenger mirror I completely rely on the blind spot mirror and looking around 4 times to double check - does great things to my herniated disc. Gear dial, yep, I've left it in gear way too many times!
The items you mentioned later...I have media controls on my steering wheel and a 60/40 rear split seat. And while I wish the center storage was a little bigger, I'm still happy to be able to fit 3 people in the front. You're right, locking storage would be nice. The 1500 doesn't have a hump in the back.
As someone who has some pretty serious hand issues, having the button instead of latch for the tailgate is actually a huge thing for me (but mine doesn't slam down either). My old ram had the latch and I really struggled with it.
I wish I had the bed step, but now I see how it closes in not sure I want it. They need to steal the built-in bumper step idea that everyone else uses.
And yes, you will wind up with a dead battery if you leave it in gear. About 15 minutes after I forgot to throw it in park and left my truck one time, my husband told me my stereo was on. I was floored that they would design it that way.
Thanks for the comment Beth. Appreciate it!
Just a question, U didn’t notice the radio kept playing and bells were chirping after U opened the door??? 🤷🏻♂️ Everytime U shut down right ( meaning put the truck in park, and hit the start / off button ) the Truck powers off the radio and nothing chirps when U open the door…One of the reasons they did that was trying to remind U to grab your Key Fob because if U didn’t have time or forgot to put the truck in park U probably forgot your keys too..
I bought the GMC look mirrors fit for the Ram. Love them! Boost auto starting at 460.00. Plus you can get a Obd2 adapter and an app on a tablet and program other upgrades that may not have been there before like power mirrors if you purchase the upgraded mirrors
How do you like them? I’ve been looking at these
I have the Boost GM Style Mirrors and will never look back. I Color Match mine and upgraded to Power Fold
There is nothing like them. I only had one Dodge guy in a year tell me they done look right, My response to him was
as opposed to looking like an ELK driving down the Road............ Its all about Safety and the OEM RAM mirrors
are not safe at all, there is no getting use to them in my opinion.
Plasti-Dip the chrome to black if you don't like it. I did it on my 2016 RAM Tradesman and it holds up very, very well. And you won't have to spend hundreds or thousands to do it.
So you basically should of bought another chevy
If I wanted to drive around an ugly truck, yes I should have done that.
You forgot no elexteic unlock and lock button in the back door. You have to manually pull up the lever or push down. Only the front has the option to unlock or lock the back doors. I hate the mirrors and want to fix them. I might wrap the chrome as well. I have the 21 tradesman
3+ years and it never even occurred to me that it didn’t have an unlock! Damn
@@NickMango if you find an aftermarket fix. Please tag me if you remember
Hmm I dunno if this makes a double I didn’t mean to all you have to do is tape off your radiator and spray the chrome with plastidip they have mat black and gloss black and a lot of other colors then just peel it off when your done they have a kit where you can put the gmc mirrors on instead.
Do you get a chirping sound coming from the back of the engine with a cold start? A lot of 6.4 hemi’s are having this problem.
Are those basic training flipflops?
Lol shower shoes
Other than the two mirrors sucking balls the truck is great for the price, though volume adjustments on the wheel would certainly be nice as a standard feature
I agree the mirrors are the worst part of the truck. I’m real happy with it otherwise.
Someone showed me how to adjust the tow mirrors in the down position using the little mirror.. They are amazing and I can't go back to the other mirrors now. You basically take the little mirror and you keep it so it's focused 100% on the next lanes to you. The little ones should NOT be in our lane at all. Then with the big and little, you see everything. I was amazed.
If you find a video on this please link me. Thanks
My '22 Big Horn 2500 with the cummins has the "sport package" so my bumpers are color matched. I actually prefer the chrome though. That's just how this one came.
Mirrors definitely aren't great, I think I pretty much have settled on putting them in the non towing position even when towing my 21 foot boat and I just turn the larger portion on the passenger side to where it can see as far out as possible while just barely keeping a portion of the truck in view and use the small portion as blind spot type mirrors though blind spots are still somewhat of a concern for really short vehicles
As far as the step, I have always just Donkey Kicked the thing. Works like a charm.
I’ve never heard of anyone not remembering to put their car in park
Mirrors do SUCK!!! Most everything else is just the cheaper packages. My Laramie has the soft drop tailgate, shifter on the column and I would pay extra to NOT have chrome. My 2020 Cummins is black night edition with black appearance package. She's a sexy towing beast!!!
for $40 you can add the tailgate assist ... The mounts are there , just remove the passenger tail light and click the damper ... simple mod
I ordered this. Will do a video. Thanks
Ordered, doesn’t work for the 2021 tradesman. They don’t include the mounting pieces.
@@NickMango there should be a ball mount on the bottom of the tailgate pivot waaay down in where it’s open to the ground and a ball mount near the tailight opening ..Got pics ? I did it on a 21
I do have one ball mount attached to the hinge, but there isn’t a second. The second one is usually at the top on an L bracket. Nothing on my end. Maybe I can order it. Let you know.
@@NickMango ok... I had to go back and look... the bracket on the tailgate hinge is the top of this soft open setup... the lower ball mount is deeeeeep down in the fender, the damper goes down below the tail light opening (follow the orientation on the damper, which I believe puts the boot down). Look down in there and where you can see light coming up from the ground, get under there and put your hand in that gap (from the bottom) and you'll feel it, snap the top of the damper on the tailgate, have someone move the gate while you orient the bottom end of it on there and you should be good
I love your commentary!! I could just imagine having a political debate with you…..😂🤣
Love our Ram 2500
I bought a ‘22 Laramie level B diesel. My biggest thing is I got the box with the gooseneck ball and hooks in it. The truck has under seat and underfloor storage. None of those compartments can hold that storage box. It would not take minimal rocket science to design it to store that stuff.
My 21 Ram 2500 tradesman has chrome package too. I agonized over it when I ordered it (because it’s ugly lol) but the durability factor for rock chips/causing rust on bumpers/wheels (I live in rust belt) won and I got it on there.
Yeah I live in the Catskills. Trucks get completely destroyed here. I agree chrome is a durable material. Good luck with your truck 👍.
I got mine for $49,900 wich if you compare other new trucks an f150 with steel wheels, no back seats , black plastic no 4x4 and a v6 is almost 60k !?They can keep em..I only wish my 6.4 hemi was non MDS!!
I learned a very valuable lesson as a young man, U have to pay to get exactly what U want.. I ordered My 2022 Ram 2500 Power Wagon..🤷🏻♂️ And I don’t think Chrome is a Upgrade IMO, Chrome looked great on Vintage all steel or aluminum vehicles not on the new plastic vehicles.. JMO
And U gotta use what U have with the mirror and I do fine 🤷🏻♂️ and my PW has power mirrors, and Volume buttons on the steering wheel, and the bench seat does have a lift up storage seat, and U get fold out flat floor in a PW or Big Horn and Up I believe, and U don’t have a soft opening tailgate because it’s a TRADESMAN!!!!🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
And U won’t be able to leave unless your totally 100% not paying attention, It makes loud and ungodly chirps until U do what’s needed..🤷🏻♂️
And the step isn’t made for hand closing!!! Kick it like a man!!!🤦🏻♂️😂
U don’t get a lot of options with a Entry Level Trim Package!!! Are U new????🤷🏻♂️😂
I agree the mirrors suck.
I HATE the mirror too!. The fix is to buy the 1500 ram mirrors. The whole thing. Thats what i am gonna do. They have videos on how to swap from the 1500 mirrors to the 2500 tow mirrors. Just do the reverse.
I installed gm style tow mirrors on mine , lights and everything work , looks great also . The way dodge should have made them
First mod I done when I got my 20113500. Rams tow mirrors suck.
Agree w lots of your points esp the tow mirror is over magnified. Love my 20PW!! You get used to the mirror w experience
great to realized im not crazy to think something was off on those mirrors. I almost crashed 2 times trying to figure them out.
on horizontal position, they have a HUGE blind spot.
I have to used them on horizontal position and it solved most of it.
so, thank you for letting me know im not going crazy
On the tail gate... I would like to find the product manager who make that decision and just talk for a bit. not punch him. lets just have a talk because something is off up there.
You're right
It is a nice looking truck though, i want one too
Thank you for the video 🙏
Completely agree about the chrome and the mirrors!! My Tradesman came with black, no chrome and I think it looks much better that way. Did you ever solve the mirror problem? I like the close in mirrors on my 2001 Ram 2500, any chance those would fit?
I tried to find a mirror to fit in that spot, that wasn’t a zoomed in one, but couldn’t. It’s really frustrating. If you find something let me know. Thanks
Go to a website that sells used trucks. Find a tradesman with black pieces( or a color match) and copy the vin.
Dude, we're friends... except I love the chrome on the tradesman
Lol thanks 👍👍
Mopar has been that way for years they don't cross reference their parts but they can look it up they just don't like to... but my parts guy is a champ and he'll do it and if yours will not walk out into the sales lot find one in the color you want and take them the VIN number but be careful some parts do not interchange between models and trim levels... an example being Factory fender flares... if you didn't order them you ain't getting them
Beatific truck and I totally agree. I hate the chrome. First thing I would do is plasti dip or vinyl wrap the front pieces and get an aftermarket front and back bumper.
Haha 👍👍👍👍
You could vinyl wrap the chrome?
You could but it tends not to stick well. Mixed results. I just put steel bumpers on it 👍
Where I live in Canada it's hard to find a tradesman that doesn't have the cheap looking flat black front end and bumpers. I'm by no means a chrome kind of guy but I couldn't get the flat black front grill/bumpers. I would be paint matching them asap lol.
Yeah I’m a flat black guy. But I agree the paint to match looks real nice.
Today's paints don't hold up to road debris. Put 10K miles on a painted grille & bumper p/u and see all the chips incurred. Chrome will look much nicer with mileage on it.
Mine is also 2021. Can't agree more on the backseat. And one for me you didn't point out is the hitch. It's so close to the bumper you can hardly put the cotter key through the pin. Mine also has a weak spot on the roof I found while washing it. If you push on it at all about a 10 inch round dent pops in it. Still waiting to hear a reply on it from ram.
You know something, you’re right on that cotter pin. It’s really difficult to get your fingers in there.
I love the chrome lol
First guy I’ve heard complain about the badass mirrors lol
Couple people in the comments too. They’re the worst mirrors to ever be attached to a vehicle.
That utility step is a mean SOB for sure, been there, done that too!!! OUCH.
Haha glad it’s not just me 👍
i have a ram 2500 and i love it but nick mango you get what you pay for
Without a doubt. I paid 50k+ and got an awesome truck 👍👍
I pull a 42' trailer, and those tow mirrors are MONEY under tow. I do agree it feels like people are up your ass until you get used to gaging your corners. I've gotten used to using them in horizontal configuration because I like them tucked closer when I'm not under tow.
Tucked closer honestly only because I deal with parking garages in Atlanta
If you would have upped to a big horn trim you would have solved 70% of your complaints, a little more research before you pull the trigger is the key to avoiding most of your dislikes 👍 jmo
Haha you couldn’t be more wrong: ruclips.net/video/Qyy3Z6IERT0/видео.html
Uhmmm. My 2021 2500 Bighorn front bench center seat bottom flips up and there's storage under it. The Tradesman doesn't?
Has anyone noticed the blind spot as someone is coming on the passenger side specifically? I feel I can see them up to about the side of the truck. And can barely see if look really hard on that side as there is a spot where they disappear
Sounds to me like you are weekend warrior ,not really a person that uses truck for work. I have virtually same truck but 3500 and none of those things bother me
So, you can definitely replace that center flip seat with the full console you get in the Laramie etc
My brother swapped his out for like $400
Did you solve the mirror problem? I have the same issues.... Been looking for a solution.
So many people have asked about this. Unfortunately I have not solved it. If you hear of anything please let me know.
working from a dealer its not that bad. the dealer doesnt want to orde rrandom parts , cus if they order it and you return it they loose
Yes, paint does stick to it, take it to a good body guy. If you don't get the chrome package, it's the cheap looking plastic because it is a base. It really looks bad with the plastic. Youbdont have to get the grill suroud from the dealer. You can either take it off and get it painted, it's not hard. YOU can order it from Mopar. Your dealer is awful of they can't do it.
You bought the lowest trim level and expected it to have all the bells and whistles. Tradesman= cheap, low budget truck. Next time get the limited and it will solve all these problems.
50k is cheap?
@@elcompazeus2436 cheap in class, yes. The money is in a different area
Have the bumpers and the outside of grill color match wrapped and the 5 pieces in the center and the emblems blacked out.
That’s a good move for sure.
Look on Cargurus and find a black truck (picture) and get the VIN off the the page with that truck on it. They all list the VIN.
It seems you have personal issues that can’t be blamed on the truck. Especially the mirror thing .. I mean wtf? I’ve had an 04 2500 and now a 17 2500 Laramie. Awesome trucks . My only complaint on the 17 is the lever shifter has a button for low 1&2.
Dude My phone fell off the dash and hit and turned the shifter knob to park while i was pulling out almost got me killed!!!! stopped me dead in the middle of a 2 lane with cars coming in both lanes! It was scary as hell!!
I’ve never heard of anything like that! That’s insane. I’m very surprised there’s no protection against something like that happening.
Not a fan of the dial-a-gear myself.
I’ve quickly gotten used to it but don’t think I’ll ever “like” it either
Do you get more than one FOB for starting the truck when you purchase?
I got two 👍
Gotta agree about the tailgate very dumb, the amp research steps are much better softer easier to operate and 30% larger step pad and they make a side step that is awesome to get in the front of the from the best $200 bucks (roughly) I spent I’m 5,9 so it’s not easy for anyone under 6,1
I think I want to try and put one of those steps on the side of the truck. Will research. Thank you!
What kind of trucks did you have before this one?
Base model 2018 Silverado 1500. I had 3 in a row but didn’t like the new design so I switched. Watch my Top 10 things I love video. Thanks 👍
Not trying to be a jerk but it seems like you bought the wrong truck and didn't look at what you were buying. Just my opinion.
You should watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Qyy3Z6IERT0/видео.html
They sure do a good job of shafting the buyer who wants a nice work truck. The seat in the back should be a split bench. The ford xl has a split rear sear and it is the lowest model they offer. Trim levels shouldn't mean usability but instead convenience. The tradesman dodges are all thousands more than an xl ford even after adding the stx appearance package. Maybe it is the huge display screen or something. With all the ford dealers trying to rip you off by selling a 50,500 dollar truck for 55,500 I have had decided turn my gaze to the rams. The tradesman seems much more like an xlt and comes in a little under the price. The ford scam artists are selling an xlt for about the price of what a lariat should be. I am looking forward to when supply catches up with demand. I might just wait to shop around and pinch every nickel I can out of their pockets.
Would have to ask why? Why would you buy a truck you hate?
Within the first 30 seconds of this video I said I love the truck.
2021 2500 Laramie, Night Edition. Cummins 6.7 fixes all the things you don’t like.
😂😂😂😂
Anyone have the black tow mirrors and want chrome ones? Mine have everything but the 360 cameras.
Where can u find the bed step for rear bumper at
Mopar Online Parts www.moparonlineparts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Bed+step