It's a nice product, and I know it's impossible to satisfy everyone's desires, but this Router could've used a 5GbE nBaseT port in place of 3 of the 1GbE ports for each of the two switch segments. The bus to CPU would've supported it, and the router would've been more complete. This router for me would be absolutely perfect atm, if in addition to above it also had combo 10GbE RJ45 ports for each of the SFP+ ports. Still quite a nice product.
I just buy CCR2004-16G-2S+PC and am very happy with it. It's very interesting that each of three models of CCR2004 has no switch chip directly handling the SFP+/SFP28 ports, the switch chip only connects Gbe ports. The port extender 98PX1012 on the XS Port model of CCR2004 seems not to perform full functions of the switch chip. So some switch function such as interface bonding for SFP+ ports might cost more CPU load on CCR2004 I guess?
I guess at this price point people don't tend to bond 10GE. Anyway bonding can open up a new can of worms if hashing over the links doesn't go right (out of order packets). If you are bonding for redundancy instead of bandwidth then I think it's better to buy two routers and set them up as a VRRP pair which is what I do. Then you have full chassis redundancy, and staging upgrades is far less risky.
Any chance we'll see a high end arm or x86 based 1072 replacement. Our head end is struggling and we're about to make the jump to juniper. We don't care what it costs but would like to stay with tik because we're so comfortable with it.
8 POE+ with 8 Standard Gigabit ports would make this a solid small buisness router. That would allow for connecting Access Points and VOIP phones all in one unit. The 10G SFP+ is good though for connecting up to a 24-48 port switch.
Mikrotik best project for small buisneses is HEX S - good cpu performance, versatility, possibility of handling very heavy rules list for firewall, passive cooling and small size. For small buisness key features is L2TP+IPSEC conections for remote workers, advanced vlan config options and a cpu which can handle a lot of rules (some kind of permission access rules - some workers allowed only https and stuff, other workers have permission to use torrents, other people have discord access for example) I really want HEX S idea to go further
How about fewer ports, like 3 sfp+ ... and maybe 1 LOW RPM fan, fanless is good but any air movement makes a huge difference, so why not a super low rpm fan, it could even turn off unless needed?
Yeah it's like this thing can't decide if it's a router or a switch. I guess adding multiple 1G RJ45 has low marginal cost once the switch chip has already been purchased for the board.
I already have CCR1009 going strong but if they ever fail I'll grab these. When will RouterOS7 be stable for CCR1009? Currently it is in "testing" still for that platform (August 2022). Also, the performance comparison for CCR1009 vs CCR2004 seems be be with the former running RouterOS6 and the latter running RouterOS7. Are there any comparisons with them both running RouterOS7? The latest right now is 7.4.1. Thanks champs.
Here is a big concern about the very small and un-upgradeable 128MB NAND storage in CCR2004. Is any reason giving such small storage?? That small NAND storage also probably limits the lifespan of the machine because once the NAND storage is overwritten exceeding its durability the whole machine would become a brick. You even provide 1GB storage on your entry-level product RB5009 so I really don't understand your product line strategy at all.
But did you upgrade to 7.1 where the issues are fixed? If yes, email us with full details and console output taken during reboot, so we can see what caused it.
2 года назад+1
@@mikrotik ok, I will give it a try today. The last crash was on rc5 or something like that. What drives me mad is that this issue is not an acceptable reason for RMA.
2 года назад+1
@@mikrotik Looks like you have fixed some other issues and brought up some new ones. CCR 2004 on 7.1 now crashes during loading configuration... Great job. I have sent it to your support@
@ Hai Can I know is the issue resolved ? I am planning to buy this model.
2 года назад+2
@@testinghackstelugu1266 Hi, I've got this router up and running on RouterOS 7.2rc4 for at least a week without any issue with average traffic around 800Mbps
Ok, CPU performance, nice. How useful is this in a data center (or also for a normal core switch/very demanding access switch) compared to a multi-chassis configuration feature such as Cisco has with VSS or HPE/Aruba has with VSF? I'm trying latest available beta of Ros7 with MLAG but I really can't understand why I can't reach my swtiches anymore and I've written to Mtik support. But this function doesn't seems to fit this lack of feature (maybe can be nice mixed with VRRP but still not a way to see two chassis as one)
I love your products and prices and licensing! Stay awesome!
It's a nice product, and I know it's impossible to satisfy everyone's desires, but this Router could've used a 5GbE nBaseT port in place of 3 of the 1GbE ports for each of the two switch segments. The bus to CPU would've supported it, and the router would've been more complete. This router for me would be absolutely perfect atm, if in addition to above it also had combo 10GbE RJ45 ports for each of the SFP+ ports. Still quite a nice product.
I’m surprised there’s no PoE out port.
At least one PoE out port will be great for acces point
PoE is for edge devices like AP's, and they should connect to switches, in my opinion.
I just buy CCR2004-16G-2S+PC and am very happy with it. It's very interesting that each of three models of CCR2004 has no switch chip directly handling the SFP+/SFP28 ports, the switch chip only connects Gbe ports. The port extender 98PX1012 on the XS Port model of CCR2004 seems not to perform full functions of the switch chip. So some switch function such as interface bonding for SFP+ ports might cost more CPU load on CCR2004 I guess?
I guess at this price point people don't tend to bond 10GE. Anyway bonding can open up a new can of worms if hashing over the links doesn't go right (out of order packets). If you are bonding for redundancy instead of bandwidth then I think it's better to buy two routers and set them up as a VRRP pair which is what I do. Then you have full chassis redundancy, and staging upgrades is far less risky.
We had problems with the first gen of CCR2004 and your support did nothing, that's sad!
Whats problems?
@@stasio1740 loosing routes and crashing.
@@renansausen9574 Ok thanks. Today i will stay with rb4011, but im looking for something with two sfp+ ports
@@renansausen9574 RouterOS version? Are you talking about full BGP tables or simple small ospf configurations?
@@sliddjur just small iBGP tables, PPPoE and NAT, router OS was in the latest version by the time I tried to contact support.
Any chance we'll see a high end arm or x86 based 1072 replacement. Our head end is struggling and we're about to make the jump to juniper. We don't care what it costs but would like to stay with tik because we're so comfortable with it.
A CCR wit QSFP ports would be nice tho
Need a router model with more 10G and 2.5G RJ45 ports.
Glad you mention the typical power needed. Would it also be possible to tell some range of idle power?
8 POE+ with 8 Standard Gigabit ports would make this a solid small buisness router. That would allow for connecting Access Points and VOIP phones all in one unit. The 10G SFP+ is good though for connecting up to a 24-48 port switch.
It is a router not switch. You should use switch to do poe
I have no need but I really want this. Too much for my home network?
Impressive router.... until i saw the fans, hope to see something fanless with bigger footprint case.
Dear Mikrotik, where is the passive cooling version ? It has been more than a half year !!
Is there any news about CCR2004-16G-2S+PS?
using two of them getting randon reboots every 7-10 days already created a ticket but no response
Mikrotik best project for small buisneses is HEX S - good cpu performance, versatility, possibility of handling very heavy rules list for firewall, passive cooling and small size. For small buisness key features is L2TP+IPSEC conections for remote workers, advanced vlan config options and a cpu which can handle a lot of rules (some kind of permission access rules - some workers allowed only https and stuff, other workers have permission to use torrents, other people have discord access for example) I really want HEX S idea to go further
When will the passive cooling version be available?
How about fewer ports, like 3 sfp+ ... and maybe 1 LOW RPM fan, fanless is good but any air movement makes a huge difference, so why not a super low rpm fan, it could even turn off unless needed?
Yeah it's like this thing can't decide if it's a router or a switch. I guess adding multiple 1G RJ45 has low marginal cost once the switch chip has already been purchased for the board.
you look exhausted and was forced to make a video 😅😄👌
I already have CCR1009 going strong but if they ever fail I'll grab these. When will RouterOS7 be stable for CCR1009? Currently it is in "testing" still for that platform (August 2022). Also, the performance comparison for CCR1009 vs CCR2004 seems be be with the former running RouterOS6 and the latter running RouterOS7. Are there any comparisons with them both running RouterOS7? The latest right now is 7.4.1. Thanks champs.
QUERY ? A ccr2004-1G-12S+2XS SHOULD FAN THE EQUIPMENT WHEN TURNED ON OR WHEN THE EQUIPMENT OVERHEATS AUTOMATICALLY, DOES THE FAN ACTIVATE?
I purchased CCR2004 PC but not support POE-in. Other function is satisfy.
When will we get the passive cooling version?
Mikrotik, take the CR2004-16G-2S+PC and make it have four 2.5Gbit ports + two 5Gbit ports + two SFP+ ports.
Sounds good. I'd rather replace 16x 1Gbps ports with 6x 2.5Gbps ports.
Here is a big concern about the very small and un-upgradeable 128MB NAND storage in CCR2004. Is any reason giving such small storage?? That small NAND storage also probably limits the lifespan of the machine because once the NAND storage is overwritten exceeding its durability the whole machine would become a brick. You even provide 1GB storage on your entry-level product RB5009 so I really don't understand your product line strategy at all.
Most our devices have smaller storage. It is enough for routerOS
@@mikrotik How many writes can NAND take?
cool product as it is said to be the cheapest CCR router.
Does it have high availability pairs?
@3:45 when does the passive version be available?
it already is, contact your mikrotik distributor
Any news on random hangs/reboots? I have bought two of them and each suffers the same. You may call it impressive, I call it the shit.
But did you upgrade to 7.1 where the issues are fixed? If yes, email us with full details and console output taken during reboot, so we can see what caused it.
@@mikrotik ok, I will give it a try today. The last crash was on rc5 or something like that. What drives me mad is that this issue is not an acceptable reason for RMA.
@@mikrotik Looks like you have fixed some other issues and brought up some new ones. CCR 2004 on 7.1 now crashes during loading configuration... Great job. I have sent it to your support@
@ Hai Can I know is the issue resolved ? I am planning to buy this model.
@@testinghackstelugu1266 Hi, I've got this router up and running on RouterOS 7.2rc4 for at least a week without any issue with average traffic around 800Mbps
Need a suggestion CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ vs CCR2004-16G-2S+ which one is better for radius, with 500 static ip users
2004 Will be faster
@@mikrotik What about the issues mentioned in the comments, I am planning to buy this model, but bit confused with the bugs mentioned in the comments.
Switch chips with l3 hw offload ?
Mikrotik need to have more poe plus switches
Ok, CPU performance, nice. How useful is this in a data center (or also for a normal core switch/very demanding access switch) compared to a multi-chassis configuration feature such as Cisco has with VSS or HPE/Aruba has with VSF?
I'm trying latest available beta of Ros7 with MLAG but I really can't understand why I can't reach my swtiches anymore and I've written to Mtik support. But this function doesn't seems to fit this lack of feature (maybe can be nice mixed with VRRP but still not a way to see two chassis as one)
Its not a switch?
Copper is for plebs. I need at least 9,000,000 sfp+ ports. Don't need spf56 yet, but give me a month or two and I may.
I know it’s hard to design a switch but I look at this at can’t help but think it’s based on early 2000 3com switches
Except it's a router not a switch....
poor sound quality
external PSU, ugh *skip*
1:17
Duel internal
lol someone who commented before watching the entire vid