"What do you mean there are anomalies in the data?" "Well, there is an unusual anomaly that has appeared at odd intervals every couple months, beginning 20 years ago. And this strange data, it... isn't random." "How do you know?" "Because... when the data anomalies are plotted in our graphing tools back home, english latin characters appear in the visualizer. The last anomaly was recorded just a day before you landed, and it appears to be the final data point completing the shape of a full stop punctuation mark." "That's impossible. What does the sentence say?" "It says 'GO BACK.'"
OK, OK I’ll go get it myself and fix it ! Damn, I tell you do you want anything done right you have to go do it yourself sure, the hell is hard to get good. Help these days.
OK, OK I’ll go get it myself and fix it ! Damn, I tell you do you want anything done right you have to go do it yourself sure, the hell is hard to get good. Help these days. It’s amazing how China after they had the technology given to them had their own equipment on Mars and 30 days. I don’t know so they use the same Hollywood basement or just the same Iceland background.
It's my insane idea is to bring it back and give it a world tour. So people can actually visit it. (like that Titanic artifacts tour some years back). I'd love to go see it.
72 flights and even though it can no longer fly it is still able to gather data, money well spent as far as I am concerned, and yes, one day (or Sol) we will retrieve the little helicopter and be amazed at the data that it has collected.
Interesting for sure but amazed there are satellites collecting information on the weather as we speak and are capable of sending it home , I doubt anything scientifically significant will come from it , but you never know
Highly unlikely. Mars isn’t a viable option for colonization (so no Martian museum) and the cost to return it to earth would be astronomical (so no earth museum). Literally.
@@Mr1121628 That may the case, but what if humanity first commits to colonising Mars and terraforms Mars to make it habitable? In that case, the museum can be on Mars. If Ingenuity ever returns to Earth, it could be via a separate mission that requires the return of hardware or Martian samples back to Earth. Ingenuity could come along for the ride back to Earth unless the cost of making Ingenuity come along is too high.
@@kyrollos0208 what I said was “Mars is not a viable option for colonization.” It doesn’t matter how much humanity “commits” to colonizing or terraforming Mars; the whole idea is a non-starter. Even though Mars is the most similar planet to Earth in the solar system, it’s far from similar from a life perspective. It’s nearly a vacuum. Almost no atmosphere. Mars is intensely cold. -63 C AVERAGE. Mars gravity is also far less than on Earth. Not to mention travel time. And all this just to say that the only reason you colonize a place like Mars is if your previous world has been destroyed. It would take far more effort to colonize Mars than to fix Earth. It will never happen. Pure fantasy.
@@Mr1121628 The points about Mars currently being inhabitable and the potential cost to try to make it habitable are definitely important points to have in mind. Colonising Mars based on Earth being inhabitable may be just one reason to consider colonising Mars, but, yes, fixing Earth should take priority over colonising Mars in this case. Best to not take bad habits to another planet. Other reasons for potentially colonising Mars could be merely to spread humanity across space. Could Earth's population becoming unmanageably large? In this case, it would be better to be able to sustain larger and larger populations on Earth than to divide the population across two planets unless relocating part of the population to Mars is the more feasible option. It would definitely help to have a reliable communication method(s) between Earth and Mars so that the humans on Mars can maintain connections with the humans on Earth. I speculate that there could be technology in the future that could make Mars' atmosphere equivalent, though not identical, to that of Earth. However, Mars' weaker gravity compared to Earth's can have negative consequences on the inter-generational development of humans on Mars.
I’m just amazed at the reliability behind these missions! Expected 5 flights, lasted 72! (And then there’s voyager 1 that’s STILL going after 40+ years)
The Opportunity rover, may it rest in peace, lasted many multiples longer than its initial 90 day mission was planning to. We had it sing happy birthday with the buzzing of the motors of the equipment that can move around (think like stepper motors that can emit a predictable tone based on how fast they're moving), its battery is down and its solar panels are covered in dust, but nothing mechanical even broke (except a wheel I think, and it did not significsntly impede the mission), so it COULD possibly be resurrected by another robot or a manned team set out to clean its solar panels Ingenuity is a little stuck, what with the blade ripped off, but as they said, enough memory in there to hold 20 years of data, who knows what trends we could see over the course of 20 years.
@NomanAhmed3 it's three things I think: 1) definitely some major underestimation. Or, rather, point two which is 2) majorly redundant design, more components than strictly necessary, sturdier things, etc without going too overbudget weight-wise 3) incredibly careful and gentle use of the equipment over the course of the missions. After all, one mistake and it's all over. NASA is all about these three steps. Measure twice, measure a third time, cut once, then measure once more for good measure.
I love the idea of all of the picture coming back exactly the same for like 6 or 7 years. Then one picture in a plain white room. Then back to where it was originally.
I love this. I'm so impressed with NASA and JPL for the things they've been able to accomplish. I have no doubt at some point someone will figure out a way to retrieve this Intrepid little buzzer and gather its data.
Knowledge. Fame. Power. Ingenuity, the king of the rovers attained this and everything else the world had to offer. And its dying words drove countless souls to mars “You want my data? You can have my data! I left everything I gathered together in one place! Now you just have to find it!”
This gives me a feeling of... I dunno, hope? I don't quite know how to explain this. Like, we aren't just looking at mars as something that it is right now, but we are actively planning ahead. we don't just gather the information from it to use now, but leave robots there, that won't benefit us right now, but will maybe benefit in the future. This really gives me a feeling that we are actually planning on going there. it's such a great feeling.
This could seriously be an awesome sci-fi movie. You have astronauts going to mars and setting up a colony, then when going to retrieve ingenuity along with a bunch of other robots on mars, they find that all of them have been recording the signs of some massive dust storm, CME, or something like that (it could be whatever as long as it means certain death for the astronauts) and it’s a race against time to get off the planet before said event happens.
there is hardly anything on mars that could harm astronauts that isn't already part of its regular environment. Mars is dangerous enough as it is. Storms are not strong enough to do damage because the atmosphere is too thin (There was a famous scene in the book the martian, which the author put in for drama, but thats not how mars works), and cmes are not too dangerous either, especially when you have your base in a magma tube. Mars is insanely difficult and dangerous to get to and live in, but once you managed those things, it wont get much worse than that. Cmes btw are forcast by solar Orbiters, by the time a detector on mars gets wind of one, its already too late
I love that they basically it said, "Well, might as well make the best out of this." It I don't believe it took many resources to send that command and they could have a potentially juicy payout in terms of data years down the line. That's a great investment.
Nice! Will the 20 years of data be from the 20 years prior to the data finally being collected or from the first 20 years of the data-gathering mission? I.e., will old data be overwritten by new data, or will data gathering stop once Ingenuity's storage space is full?
@@xandermason7748 Yeah, a lot of technological and scientific advancement can happen in the next 20 years which can help us get all that data back to Earth. And NASA would be incentivised to collect the data as the data, which will probably be multiple measurements collected over time, can provide valuable insights about Mars and inform future missions. 🤩
i would love to see a museum on mars in the future about when we were just getting started and getting a foothold on mars but chances are none of us will live that long
Ginny, the little copter that defied all expectations. You'll go down as one of our most successful missions in early Mars exploration history. I can't wait for the day decades from now when a new rover or maybe even astronauts get to come recover and bring you back home.
Given that the memory on the ingenuity is not radiation-hardened, in 20 years many bits will be flipped, with many corruptions - but I guess most of that can be fixed (especially with good CRC that was probably already implement in data save).
Probably not gonna happen, but imagine we forget about it, and it continues to work for 100-200 years and captured humanity's attempt to colonize Mars. Then one day we suddenly found it, and the time lapse.
@@CannaKitty if they were then the blade wouldn’t have broken! I have a desktop oscillating fan made in 1913 and the metal blades on it are in perfect condition. I bet they have even sliced a lot of fingers and maybe even a few of them came clan off, since the protective metal wire guard around them has huge holes in it! Yet you can’t see any damage to the blades. Moreover, I bet the blades were not precision made yet they function as well as the day they were stamped out!
Yeah, unfortunately they wouldn't survive long. Among other things: Small feet sink in sand, no radiation hardened electronics, no long term dust and wind protection, and no charging or long term power source. Sure would be cool tho.
Quick reminder those things are 1/4 million dollars each with an expensive subscription service. We ought to send two updated versions of the copters and let them carry it back like a coconut between two swallows. Clearly they perform better then originally designed.
Apollo 12 landed within a couple hundred yards of Surveyor 3 and brought a piece of it back ... Voyager was only supposed to be a 5 year mission. And that was 46 years ago. I'm confident we'll be hearing from our little helicopter who could again.
I'll go work on it for, no problem. Just let me know when and what to pack BTW. I will need a large supply of cheese burgers. You can drop off Outback once a week or so.
We’ll make it. I watched my father and some uncles of mine work to get us to the moon when most people still had black and white analog tv sets. I have faith
I just love the fact of just knowing, if some future astronaut/rover is ever tasked with collecting Ingenuity, something along the lines of “thank you, little buddy. You can rest now…” will be said.
Well, honestly the biggest issue im foreseeing is when we send the next mission, technology sent will most likely be incompatible with ingenuity. Back in ~2003 if i remember correctly, we were using IDE hard drives, so in order to recover the drive, you woupd either have to bring IDE adapters, or original hardware that is compatible with it, and depending on model of hard drive, you are also looking at having to set the sector and RPM measurements in the BIOS to run it. Even before that though you'll have to jump the correct pins for configuration and even though its simple for someone like me who still uses and works with older technology on a regular enough basis, it isnt exactly something NASA or SpaceX would ever think to have someone trained on because everyone only trains on the latest technologies, not yesteryears as computers are now viewed as disposable devices no matter the context. And yes, that includes the computers that make your vehicle, refrigerator, smart home, what have you work. Same reason why most mechanics dont know how to or when to change the oil in a oil filled air filter because the technology is so outdated the knowledge is just simply no longer needed outside of a historical perspective and occasionally if someone wants to replace the cyclone air filter on an old T-34 they got for less than a new truck even after import fees.
Reminds me of what they did with Kepler after two of its movement wheels broke. The K2 mission was amazingly useful, and here’s hoping Ingenuity 2 will be as well!
Luckily there not too large, so one or two people could carry them. Imagine that in the future being able to tell kids I remember when it left as you both stare at it in a museum.
Ingenuity was a state of the art robot for its time. Now robots are only getting better. It’s a totally valid goal to send a ship full of robots to Mars and even return some with the data among other things. Astronauts are fun but robots are expedient.
But the pros are you’ll be treated like the most sacred of items by nasas scientist and be responsible for some of the greatest data also some astronaut is gonna coddle you lol
That little bug just doesn't want to give up, it deserves to be put on a monument at the entrance to the future base on Mars (with all the names of those who designed and built it)
Tbh, missions with probes that just "collect data and wait" could be a good thing to start doing *now* so when we finally do begin living on Mars, we already have decades of geologic/atmospheric/visual/etc data to look back on.
Not at all, building a milti billion dollar probe with no way of contacting and retrieving the data, no way to react to problems, no way of doing basic long distance maintenence and no way of guaranteeing that the data will even still be there, makes no sense Every single probe we have directly sends back data. there is no reason to put a data collection probe somewhere and not give it a transmitter to send that data back home. What you are proposing is to do what we already do, except we dont give it transmitters. The reason ingenuity doesn't have strong transmitters is because it has to be small and light since mars doesn't have much of an atmosphere to fly in. We didn't even know if it would work in the first place. It did transmit its data to perseverance, its host rover, which then sent it back home. Now that ingenuity cant fly, that rover is continuing its mission elsewhere, and thats why we lose contact with ingenuity. Had we build ingenuity from the ground up with no transmitter in mind, we had no data to work with now, no guarantee to ever find it, no guarantee it even works, no way to troubleshoot its many issues over its life cycle, no control, nothing. Thats not a smart proposal to make
The naming conventions for our space robots Curiosity and ingenuity are the perfect metaphor for humanities visions of the future, and our desires may manifest
I was working on CCRS (a sub mission of the Mars Sample Return mission) as an intern but a month or two after the summer the project got put on hold until further notice due to budget issues :*(
If we finally get people on Mars, we should build a small museum with ingenuity as the central focal point. It'll look so old school by then. Like a rotary phone looks today.
bro, a mars timelapse would be insane
Imagine seeing the Martian sky change over the years!
Red. Red. Red. Red. Red. Red.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat orange*
If this was a movie, it would end with a Timelapse of Mars but the final frame would be a human waving to it.
@@MajorSangheili That should be like the new _Logistics_ type movie.
NASA is out here laying the groundwork for a truly fantastic Sci fi horror movie.
That or a future “who put these here?” Bit.
"What do you mean there are anomalies in the data?"
"Well, there is an unusual anomaly that has appeared at odd intervals every couple months, beginning 20 years ago. And this strange data, it... isn't random."
"How do you know?"
"Because... when the data anomalies are plotted in our graphing tools back home, english latin characters appear in the visualizer. The last anomaly was recorded just a day before you landed, and it appears to be the final data point completing the shape of a full stop punctuation mark."
"That's impossible. What does the sentence say?"
"It says 'GO BACK.'"
@@sammxn-w2v I would pay so much to see this be made.
I pity the future analyst who falls off their chair when they see a Shadow in one of the images.
Nah. What you do, is hehe every single picture be normal, accept one, of an astronaut, a month Before anyone arrive to retrieve the data.
Marsguy always described its flights as "flight 63 of 5" which was lovely
OK, OK I’ll go get it myself and fix it !
OK, OK I’ll go get it myself and fix it !
Damn, I tell you do you want anything done right you have to go do it yourself sure, the hell is hard to get good. Help these days.
OK, OK I’ll go get it myself and fix it !
Damn, I tell you do you want anything done right you have to go do it yourself sure, the hell is hard to get good. Help these days. It’s amazing how China after they had the technology given to them had their own equipment on Mars and 30 days. I don’t know so they use the same Hollywood basement or just the same Iceland background.
Maybe a nod to Douglass Adams, you know the five part trilogy of Hitchhiker's Guide.😅😅😅
@@williamrush8370you can edit the comment or just delete the old ones you seem to have some kind of an episode here😂
Imagine the greatest selfie ever taken. Being an astronaut, flashing a peace sign in the very last photo in the series before recovering the robot.
Brilliant ❤
With something not so identifiable in the distance staring.
That's not a selfie
@@appa609Yeah, it's like having your friend take a photo of you and calling that a selfie
@@appa609 A selfie is a self portrait. You dont have to be holding the camera. This would just be a really really long timer.
Ingenuity, the little helicopter that could. We salute you.
A helicopter that has accomplished so much and will continue to do so!
It's my insane idea is to bring it back and give it a world tour. So people can actually visit it. (like that Titanic artifacts tour some years back). I'd love to go see it.
72 flights and even though it can no longer fly it is still able to gather data, money well spent as far as I am concerned, and yes, one day (or Sol) we will retrieve the little helicopter and be amazed at the data that it has collected.
Adaptability is important! Ingenuity truly living up to its name!
Interesting for sure but amazed there are satellites collecting information on the weather as we speak and are capable of sending it home , I doubt anything scientifically significant will come from it , but you never know
Also since it’s only the rotor that got broken we could repair it!
As long as someone saves a usb cable in the kitchen drawer for 120 years.
Hehehehehe imagine being the first person on Mars and your first words are, “hold on inginuity! I’m a coming!”
Ingenuity: Was I a good bot?
Us: You still are
Ingenuity is still doing science!
One day it will be in a museum.
Maybe a museum on Mars? 😮
Highly unlikely. Mars isn’t a viable option for colonization (so no Martian museum) and the cost to return it to earth would be astronomical (so no earth museum). Literally.
@@Mr1121628 That may the case, but what if humanity first commits to colonising Mars and terraforms Mars to make it habitable? In that case, the museum can be on Mars.
If Ingenuity ever returns to Earth, it could be via a separate mission that requires the return of hardware or Martian samples back to Earth. Ingenuity could come along for the ride back to Earth unless the cost of making Ingenuity come along is too high.
@@kyrollos0208 what I said was “Mars is not a viable option for colonization.” It doesn’t matter how much humanity “commits” to colonizing or terraforming Mars; the whole idea is a non-starter. Even though Mars is the most similar planet to Earth in the solar system, it’s far from similar from a life perspective. It’s nearly a vacuum. Almost no atmosphere. Mars is intensely cold. -63 C AVERAGE. Mars gravity is also far less than on Earth. Not to mention travel time. And all this just to say that the only reason you colonize a place like Mars is if your previous world has been destroyed. It would take far more effort to colonize Mars than to fix Earth. It will never happen. Pure fantasy.
@@Mr1121628 The points about Mars currently being inhabitable and the potential cost to try to make it habitable are definitely important points to have in mind.
Colonising Mars based on Earth being inhabitable may be just one reason to consider colonising Mars, but, yes, fixing Earth should take priority over colonising Mars in this case. Best to not take bad habits to another planet.
Other reasons for potentially colonising Mars could be merely to spread humanity across space. Could Earth's population becoming unmanageably large? In this case, it would be better to be able to sustain larger and larger populations on Earth than to divide the population across two planets unless relocating part of the population to Mars is the more feasible option.
It would definitely help to have a reliable communication method(s) between Earth and Mars so that the humans on Mars can maintain connections with the humans on Earth.
I speculate that there could be technology in the future that could make Mars' atmosphere equivalent, though not identical, to that of Earth. However, Mars' weaker gravity compared to Earth's can have negative consequences on the inter-generational development of humans on Mars.
Why do I feel attachment and compassion for every robot we send up there? I have a burning desire to rescue and/or repair all of them
I have the same feelings too, and I think it’s just because they’re so important and cool
Thats not a GEOcache, that might be humanity's first ever AREOcache, that's incredible.
Taking it to otherworldly levels!
Marscache)
@@BestHakasethe geo in Geocache comes from the greek deity Gaia, likewise ARE in Areocache comes from the god Ares (also known as Mars to the romans)
Honestly thank you because I didn't quite pick up on what it actually meant. But I knew others did so I appreciated it 😂 @@splabooshkey3343
I’m just amazed at the reliability behind these missions! Expected 5 flights, lasted 72! (And then there’s voyager 1 that’s STILL going after 40+ years)
The Opportunity rover, may it rest in peace, lasted many multiples longer than its initial 90 day mission was planning to. We had it sing happy birthday with the buzzing of the motors of the equipment that can move around (think like stepper motors that can emit a predictable tone based on how fast they're moving), its battery is down and its solar panels are covered in dust, but nothing mechanical even broke (except a wheel I think, and it did not significsntly impede the mission), so it COULD possibly be resurrected by another robot or a manned team set out to clean its solar panels
Ingenuity is a little stuck, what with the blade ripped off, but as they said, enough memory in there to hold 20 years of data, who knows what trends we could see over the course of 20 years.
They just downplay at the start to not get our hopes up and then brag later that it lasted longer than expected 😂 simple
@NomanAhmed3 it's three things I think:
1) definitely some major underestimation. Or, rather, point two which is
2) majorly redundant design, more components than strictly necessary, sturdier things, etc without going too overbudget weight-wise
3) incredibly careful and gentle use of the equipment over the course of the missions. After all, one mistake and it's all over.
NASA is all about these three steps. Measure twice, measure a third time, cut once, then measure once more for good measure.
Sadly voyager one is close to the true end of its lifespan
@@ferociousfeind8538 indeed
Heck read a mlp fanfic where starlight glimmer took oppy to equestria and cleaned the dust!
I LOVE IT!
I love the idea of all of the picture coming back exactly the same for like 6 or 7 years. Then one picture in a plain white room. Then back to where it was originally.
I love this. I'm so impressed with NASA and JPL for the things they've been able to accomplish. I have no doubt at some point someone will figure out a way to retrieve this Intrepid little buzzer and gather its data.
Innovation is critical for scientific discovery!
Knowledge. Fame. Power. Ingenuity, the king of the rovers attained this and everything else the world had to offer. And its dying words drove countless souls to mars
“You want my data? You can have my data! I left everything I gathered together in one place! Now you just have to find it!”
lol imagine being the first person on Mars and your first words are “Hold on Ingenuity! I’m a coming!”
I was waiting for someone to comment this
This gives me a feeling of... I dunno, hope? I don't quite know how to explain this. Like, we aren't just looking at mars as something that it is right now, but we are actively planning ahead. we don't just gather the information from it to use now, but leave robots there, that won't benefit us right now, but will maybe benefit in the future. This really gives me a feeling that we are actually planning on going there. it's such a great feeling.
Same here
The robot breaking its rotor, thinking its dead.
Nasa: It ain't over yet, my little friend!
Rover be like: I didnt hear no bell (south park reference)
NASA is just like my boss tbh
Or, much darker. Robot thinking it's dead. NASA "we will make your broken down corpse keep on working. You will never rest until we say you can rest."
..and that makes Mars a commie planet..
This could seriously be an awesome sci-fi movie. You have astronauts going to mars and setting up a colony, then when going to retrieve ingenuity along with a bunch of other robots on mars, they find that all of them have been recording the signs of some massive dust storm, CME, or something like that (it could be whatever as long as it means certain death for the astronauts) and it’s a race against time to get off the planet before said event happens.
there is hardly anything on mars that could harm astronauts that isn't already part of its regular environment. Mars is dangerous enough as it is. Storms are not strong enough to do damage because the atmosphere is too thin (There was a famous scene in the book the martian, which the author put in for drama, but thats not how mars works), and cmes are not too dangerous either, especially when you have your base in a magma tube. Mars is insanely difficult and dangerous to get to and live in, but once you managed those things, it wont get much worse than that. Cmes btw are forcast by solar Orbiters, by the time a detector on mars gets wind of one, its already too late
Playing some space RPG and find a data pad on an abandoned planet like "who would put this out here"
This would be a great horror space movie idea. The astronauts go to recover the data, and they find out that something is on the planet with them
Yeah, like something has been sending photos of dirt covering the lenses but there’s data of it moving or vibration data from something tunneling.
A giant rabbit
Sorta like a "Twilight Zone".....
@@russellstevens9997 dang. Great minds think alike ig
One day, we will have the ingenuity to recover Ingenuity.
What did you say =p
I love that they basically it said, "Well, might as well make the best out of this."
It I don't believe it took many resources to send that command and they could have a potentially juicy payout in terms of data years down the line. That's a great investment.
It belongs in a museum! We owe it a safe return. Legendary explorer. Testament to the ingenuity of NASA ❤
Nice! Will the 20 years of data be from the 20 years prior to the data finally being collected or from the first 20 years of the data-gathering mission? I.e., will old data be overwritten by new data, or will data gathering stop once Ingenuity's storage space is full?
20 years going forwards I believe- it's going to take us a while to get to the little guy, and it likely hasn't been starting its records yet :)
@@xandermason7748 Yeah, a lot of technological and scientific advancement can happen in the next 20 years which can help us get all that data back to Earth.
And NASA would be incentivised to collect the data as the data, which will probably be multiple measurements collected over time, can provide valuable insights about Mars and inform future missions. 🤩
Basically, it's a trail cam, now.
Like in the movie "ENEMY OF THE STATE "
„How many flights will it be able to do?
„50-100, maybe more“
„Lets say 5 and get more funding because we overachieved“
There always has to be one bellend...
?
Nasa has less funding then the cost of a single f22
I think you might be right, all these missions massively out do the predictions
Many scientists believed that Ingenuity wouldn’t even make a single flight - and that 5 was considered optimistic
"The Little Ingenuity That Could" . . . I loved that book!!!
Ingenuity: I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!
I SURE HOPE SO, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
You know how nuts it would be if we decided to put satellites in Mars' orbit and used it to relay the data?
There are already
@@shmeggley then why not use them to download the data amd send it back to us
@@syndicate5357 ingenuity doesn't have the transmitters to get data to orbit
Satellites alone is not enough. You need satellites with powerful enough antennas to pick up with the weak signal that ingenuity gives.
WE NEED TO GO AND REVIVE OUT ROVER
The vision, the mental horizons, and the ingenuity of people running those missions is something truly amazing! Keep looking up! 😀
Mark Watney's gonna need to go on a cross country rover expedition to retrieve it
Nice reference, I love that movie!
i would love to see a museum on mars in the future about when we were just getting started and getting a foothold on mars but chances are none of us will live that long
No robot will be left behind
Except for this one, clearly. And plenty of others lol.
Cassini would like a word. And Voyager, Pathfinder, Venera 3, Opportunity, and DART.
We leave behind a lot of robots.
We really sent Cassini on a mission to Saturn and said "aight we ain't coming for you, dive into the atmosphere now"
I like that idea, operation None Left Behind and it’s where we salvage all the Rovers.
Ginny, the little copter that defied all expectations. You'll go down as one of our most successful missions in early Mars exploration history. I can't wait for the day decades from now when a new rover or maybe even astronauts get to come recover and bring you back home.
Given that the memory on the ingenuity is not radiation-hardened, in 20 years many bits will be flipped, with many corruptions - but I guess most of that can be fixed (especially with good CRC that was probably already implement in data save).
its name holds up. i love when lil robot guys go above and beyond and even past their prime still help us gather information
Pivoting the mission was ingenuous!
If a robot records data, and nobody is around to collect it, does it still make a sound like R2-D2?
Yes, but no one can hear it scream.
Ingenuity seems a very appropriate name.
Probably not gonna happen, but imagine we forget about it, and it continues to work for 100-200 years and captured humanity's attempt to colonize Mars. Then one day we suddenly found it, and the time lapse.
Well, we’re gonna be there in the next couple decades, so centuries won’t be required :P
I think with some ingenuity we can make it back to Ingenuity! Maybe then then can install metal blades!
Ingenuity is named because you need some to accomplish a space mission! Certainly we can use the namesake to find out how to get to Mars!
The blades it had are the ideal material for its usecase
Imagine thinking top NASA scientists aren't using the best materials possible already 😂
@@CannaKitty if they were then the blade wouldn’t have broken! I have a desktop oscillating fan made in 1913 and the metal blades on it are in perfect condition. I bet they have even sliced a lot of fingers and maybe even a few of them came clan off, since the protective metal wire guard around them has huge holes in it! Yet you can’t see any damage to the blades. Moreover, I bet the blades were not precision made yet they function as well as the day they were stamped out!
@@Dream.big.dreams has your fan broken through the atmosphere and entered space?
We certainly better get up there! I’ve been waiting more than 50 years! Get on it NASA, or Elon or anyone! Enough already! Let’s go!
Just send a bunch of adapted Boston Dynamics spot 🤷🏻♂️
Great idea but maybe they're not made for that gravity and terrain.
Yeah, unfortunately they wouldn't survive long. Among other things: Small feet sink in sand, no radiation hardened electronics, no long term dust and wind protection, and no charging or long term power source. Sure would be cool tho.
Hey Siri: definition of ADAPTED.
Quick reminder those things are 1/4 million dollars each with an expensive subscription service.
We ought to send two updated versions of the copters and let them carry it back like a coconut between two swallows. Clearly they perform better then originally designed.
Like the Voyager missions, making maximum use of data gathering potential. Excellent.
And I think we will get back.
Apollo 12 landed within a couple hundred yards of Surveyor 3 and brought a piece of it back ... Voyager was only supposed to be a 5 year mission. And that was 46 years ago. I'm confident we'll be hearing from our little helicopter who could again.
It’s there and waiting. That’ll be enough to trigger a mission. ❤
I'll go work on it for, no problem. Just let me know when and what to pack
BTW. I will need a large supply of cheese burgers. You can drop off Outback once a week or so.
You might not need to pack extra space suit cloth for fixes, Persevearance has a little bit on it for testing purposes
I hope so I hope so
Wont it be covered up by dirt n junk waaaay sooner than 20 yrs?
no
winds from mars could blow the dirt off, plus I think nasa put little wipers on it to wipe off dirt (I could be COMPLETELY wrong)
Love the stories of space objects going way above what is expected, like with voyager 1
I got updates for this little drone almost daily from the channel Mars Guy and he's great!!!
We’ll make it. I watched my father and some uncles of mine work to get us to the moon when most people still had black and white analog tv sets. I have faith
Space travel is a huge human achievement!
Thinking about that timelapse thing.. it makes me go crazy can't comprehend
Exciting story. 👏🤓 In a wonderfully nerdy way.
Even grounded, Ingenuity aims to learn more!
I just love the fact of just knowing, if some future astronaut/rover is ever tasked with collecting Ingenuity, something along the lines of “thank you, little buddy. You can rest now…” will be said.
It will be a gift our future generations
Well, honestly the biggest issue im foreseeing is when we send the next mission, technology sent will most likely be incompatible with ingenuity. Back in ~2003 if i remember correctly, we were using IDE hard drives, so in order to recover the drive, you woupd either have to bring IDE adapters, or original hardware that is compatible with it, and depending on model of hard drive, you are also looking at having to set the sector and RPM measurements in the BIOS to run it. Even before that though you'll have to jump the correct pins for configuration and even though its simple for someone like me who still uses and works with older technology on a regular enough basis, it isnt exactly something NASA or SpaceX would ever think to have someone trained on because everyone only trains on the latest technologies, not yesteryears as computers are now viewed as disposable devices no matter the context. And yes, that includes the computers that make your vehicle, refrigerator, smart home, what have you work.
Same reason why most mechanics dont know how to or when to change the oil in a oil filled air filter because the technology is so outdated the knowledge is just simply no longer needed outside of a historical perspective and occasionally if someone wants to replace the cyclone air filter on an old T-34 they got for less than a new truck even after import fees.
It will be in a museum some day. That's a nice thought,.
It belongs in a museum!
Reminds me of what they did with Kepler after two of its movement wheels broke. The K2 mission was amazingly useful, and here’s hoping Ingenuity 2 will be as well!
That's a great historical example!
I love that little helicopter!!
Ingenuity was such an inspiration!
Very ambitious. Good luck 👍
Thanks for the update
This is a great idea. Go NASA Mars team!
BRO I CANT. Not after curiosity is left sat there waiting for us too
Luckily there not too large, so one or two people could carry them. Imagine that in the future being able to tell kids I remember when it left as you both stare at it in a museum.
It's really cool that it's wings give it life.
We need to send a mission only to rescue Ingenuity. 11/10 would watch this show
Ok girl I love this little fact you told us, i thought it was just done with it's job im very happy to hear that it's not done yet, thank you
Just Amazing
It is my greatest hope that mars and truly interplanetary species!
I volunteer to retrieve Ingenuity after I reincarnate as a Space Force Marine.
Fair winds and following seas to all.
There are MANY reasons I wish to come back from my grave ....The future holds more amazing accomplishments ......I'll betcha it'll happen one day....
We’ll come back for it
That last thing you said made me think of poor Seymour waiting for fry to come back, hopefully ingenuity doesn’t suffer the same fate
Dang that's a lotta storage for a little helicopter 👍 good work little dude
This was fascinating. Thank you!
You're very welcome! There's always more to learn!
Ingenuity was a state of the art robot for its time. Now robots are only getting better. It’s a totally valid goal to send a ship full of robots to Mars and even return some with the data among other things. Astronauts are fun but robots are expedient.
Whoever named that thing deserves a raise
She was a student at the time! She certainly has a bright future ahead thanks to some ingenuity of her own!
That's going to make a pretty spectacular exhibit at the Smithsonian Air & Space one day
Imagine working 20x more than you signed up for, being disabled, and instead of retiring your boss wants you to telework until you die.
But the pros are you’ll be treated like the most sacred of items by nasas scientist and be responsible for some of the greatest data also some astronaut is gonna coddle you lol
Gonna be like those radio tags in Red Faction
Cool 😎! Congratulations on the number of flights. The information gathering feature is outstanding. You guys will definitely get back to it...! ❤
Sometimes the key to great science is a little Ingenuity!
That little bug just doesn't want to give up, it deserves to be put on a monument at the entrance to the future base on Mars (with all the names of those who designed and built it)
Tbh, missions with probes that just "collect data and wait" could be a good thing to start doing *now* so when we finally do begin living on Mars, we already have decades of geologic/atmospheric/visual/etc data to look back on.
Not at all, building a milti billion dollar probe with no way of contacting and retrieving the data, no way to react to problems, no way of doing basic long distance maintenence and no way of guaranteeing that the data will even still be there, makes no sense
Every single probe we have directly sends back data. there is no reason to put a data collection probe somewhere and not give it a transmitter to send that data back home. What you are proposing is to do what we already do, except we dont give it transmitters.
The reason ingenuity doesn't have strong transmitters is because it has to be small and light since mars doesn't have much of an atmosphere to fly in. We didn't even know if it would work in the first place. It did transmit its data to perseverance, its host rover, which then sent it back home. Now that ingenuity cant fly, that rover is continuing its mission elsewhere, and thats why we lose contact with ingenuity.
Had we build ingenuity from the ground up with no transmitter in mind, we had no data to work with now, no guarantee to ever find it, no guarantee it even works, no way to troubleshoot its many issues over its life cycle, no control, nothing. Thats not a smart proposal to make
What!? Sooo cool... We'll _definitely_ get that data one day. I cant wait!
20 years later some astronauts on Mars “Sup dude, can you take a photo of us? *Flashes* thanks”
Yes we will make it
How come I see so little of the Mars footage that's been collected? Is there any place that broadcasts it on a continuous basis?
Hopefully, the reprogram includes extra error correction information being written so the data is useful when recovered.
Just imagine we land on Mars and see what kind of data it has, just for 20 years of alien selfies
That is so unbelievably cool
The naming conventions for our space robots Curiosity and ingenuity are the perfect metaphor for humanities visions of the future, and our desires may manifest
Incredibly cool 👍
I work for spacex so I am obligated to say “Yes we will definitely get to mars to greet ingenuity!”
I was working on CCRS (a sub mission of the Mars Sample Return mission) as an intern but a month or two after the summer the project got put on hold until further notice due to budget issues :*(
Excellent news
Thank you for sharing.
I'm sure new discoveries are in
Store . Lols
An eater egg for my golden years. Thanks🎉
That's a beautiful image of Devon Island
If we finally get people on Mars, we should build a small museum with ingenuity as the central focal point.
It'll look so old school by then. Like a rotary phone looks today.
this would make a great stellaris anomaly
I can already see the sad animation about this one, nooo, the first one hurt enough
Don’t leave it out there alone! We must retrieve our brave buddy