Ah I see. In fairness taunts in DMC 5 sometimes help gameplay wise now (Grant a rev charge, full charge bullets etc.), so a comparison can still be drawn. Albeit its a stretch.
It is. I have spent over 6 hours fighting this boss, and I have recorded the fights and studied the boss and her moves for a long time. It is masterfully designed.
@@bnhearyza4767 If we're talking the normal Mirror Aqua Boss, sure. It is masterfully designed. But if we're talking Secret Boss Mirror Aqua, no. It isn't. A masterfully designed boss is something that is challenging, yet, the average player would be able to find the patterns and how to counter after just a couple times of death. I.E: Sephiroth from KH2, or really, ANY of the Bosses from KH2, including the Lingering Will. This boss is well designed, but Masterfully? Far from it.
@@OwNAvenged Um, no. The average player would never be able to handle Zodiac Phantom at all. The average "hardcore" player would be far more appropriate. Next, this is a SUPERBOSS. This is not a storyline fight. It's not meant to be a walk in a park. It's not meant for people to be able to beat within a few attempts (unless you're playing on Beginner/Standard) Next, your statement is far too simple and very flawed. "This superboss that is meant to be the hardest challenge in the entire game is bad because the average player can't find ways to counter her after a few deaths." To me, that is ridiculous. And another thing. You say the storyline version is masterful, I am guessing because the average player can find ways to beat her within a couple of attempts. Why are you applying that same exact thing to the superboss? That is insane. The superboss has way more moves, way more complex moves, is way more aggressive and deals far more damage than her story counterpart. The difference in complexity and difficulty from regular Phantom Aqua to the Zodiac Phantom is insanely high. ------------------- ---------------- ------------- Next shouldn't it depend on what difficulty you are playing on AND what level you are? If you're playing on Critical Mode at Level 50 (lowest level), then you die in like, 1-2 hits. It's very easy to die within the first 5-10 seconds of this fight as seen here: ruclips.net/video/a39Rp3JmQd0/видео.html Is it really fair to say that he should be able to learn how everything works within the first few deaths? No. No it isn't. I'm doing a Level 1 CM playthrough in KH2, and I cannot for the life of me, figure out Zexion. I must've died 40 times to him and I still don't understand him much. Does it make him a bad boss? Hell no. Far from it. He's a great boss, that is very unique. ------- Finally, what makes a boss good or not, is NOT dependent on the players fighting them. That is absolutely ludicrous. That isn't even taking into consideration the Difficulty Level + Level of the character. This is talking about in general, for pretty much all games. Even one of the best Kingdom Hearts player in the world (Bizkit047) agrees that this boss is very well designed. It's certainly a unique boss. You must use your brain far more than with other KH Superbosses. And it may even require somewhat advanced techniques to surpass. Such as jumping out of a Barrier or using I-Frames to avoid damage. This boss took me 3.5 hours to beat for the first time, but I was playing on Critical Mode at LV.60. And it was the most fun I've ever had in any video game ever. It is very complex, and very difficult. But it is also fair, and had a ton of work put into it. So I myself, consider it masterful. Of course, all this is my opinion. Feel free to disagree and all that. But know that pretty much everyone disagrees with you...
Aqua vs. Phantom Aqua. The Master vs. The Fallen Angel. Also i really do spot similarities between this game and Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain.
Is that even possible? Enemies don't stagger or anything. And the skills don't really have many functions outside of pure damage. I mean, all it would involve is people spamming skills and switching characters. It might look cool but it only involves button mashing that a 5 year old could accomplish. But hey, I'd love to be proven wrong. :3
Boss AI seems solid and combat and movement looks less clunky than BBS, if this is the direction they’re going then 3 may just be a good game afterall.
I dont think i did this boss :S Can you tell what shes going to do via reaction? Or is this all practice and memorisation? I cant quite tell in the video
Dane Parnell it’s both. Similar to linger will in KH2 or other bosses in that game. She has sets of attack patterns. Which set she uses in any instance is random, but the patterns once she enters the set is the deterministic. Usually each set has a super easy to react opening move so you can tell which set she’s using without taking a hit. It also uses color and audio cues that are universal in the game to help you react.
Dane Parnell during any phase she has a limited moveset, and acting way forces her to do “x” attack, but she does pick randomly from her moveset and reaction does play into it; i beat her on proud at lv80~ and she doesn’t seem to have any fewer moves
@@millionshadesofdarkness2165 Oh really? Never played this game, only played KH2. But my opinion remains unchainged. Reflect is the best in these games x)
Playing 0.2 and doing this boss, I was hopeful for KH3 to have rewarding boss fights and bosses that make you think a little. Then Anti-Aqua was not even a challenge. DMC5 please save me.
![Kingdom Hearts 2.8 (0.2) Secret Boss Rush [No Damage / Critical Lv50]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fGohfHKRl0A/mqdefault.jpg)
"There is no taunt button....so I will walk menacingly and do random heals"
Featuring Aqua from the Heartless May Cry series.
The heals are for regenerating MP back to full.
Ah I see. In fairness taunts in DMC 5 sometimes help gameplay wise now (Grant a rev charge, full charge bullets etc.), so a comparison can still be drawn. Albeit its a stretch.
Taunt in DMC has always been a way to restore DT gauge as far as i remember
@@ignis488 that too
Atta, girl
I think donguri likes mirror fights a lot
on a different note the fight was as smooth as butter
I still do not understand those who think this is a bad boss. Looks like a properly challenging boss to me.
The people who didnt catch on to the patterns fast enough and didnt learn all the decent counters.
It is.
I have spent over 6 hours fighting this boss, and I have recorded the fights and studied the boss and her moves for a long time.
It is masterfully designed.
@@bnhearyza4767 If we're talking the normal Mirror Aqua Boss, sure. It is masterfully designed. But if we're talking Secret Boss Mirror Aqua, no. It isn't. A masterfully designed boss is something that is challenging, yet, the average player would be able to find the patterns and how to counter after just a couple times of death.
I.E: Sephiroth from KH2, or really, ANY of the Bosses from KH2, including the Lingering Will.
This boss is well designed, but Masterfully? Far from it.
@@OwNAvenged
Um, no.
The average player would never be able to handle Zodiac Phantom at all.
The average "hardcore" player would be far more appropriate.
Next, this is a SUPERBOSS.
This is not a storyline fight.
It's not meant to be a walk in a park.
It's not meant for people to be able to beat within a few attempts (unless you're playing on Beginner/Standard)
Next, your statement is far too simple and very flawed.
"This superboss that is meant to be the hardest challenge in the entire game is bad because the average player can't find ways to counter her after a few deaths."
To me, that is ridiculous.
And another thing.
You say the storyline version is masterful, I am guessing because the average player can find ways to beat her within a couple of attempts.
Why are you applying that same exact thing to the superboss?
That is insane.
The superboss has way more moves, way more complex moves, is way more aggressive and deals far more damage than her story counterpart.
The difference in complexity and difficulty from regular Phantom Aqua to the Zodiac Phantom is insanely high.
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Next shouldn't it depend on what difficulty you are playing on AND what level you are?
If you're playing on Critical Mode at Level 50 (lowest level), then you die in like, 1-2 hits.
It's very easy to die within the first 5-10 seconds of this fight as seen here: ruclips.net/video/a39Rp3JmQd0/видео.html
Is it really fair to say that he should be able to learn how everything works within the first few deaths?
No.
No it isn't.
I'm doing a Level 1 CM playthrough in KH2, and I cannot for the life of me, figure out Zexion.
I must've died 40 times to him and I still don't understand him much.
Does it make him a bad boss?
Hell no. Far from it.
He's a great boss, that is very unique.
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Finally, what makes a boss good or not, is NOT dependent on the players fighting them.
That is absolutely ludicrous.
That isn't even taking into consideration the Difficulty Level + Level of the character.
This is talking about in general, for pretty much all games.
Even one of the best Kingdom Hearts player in the world (Bizkit047) agrees that this boss is very well designed.
It's certainly a unique boss.
You must use your brain far more than with other KH Superbosses.
And it may even require somewhat advanced techniques to surpass.
Such as jumping out of a Barrier or using I-Frames to avoid damage.
This boss took me 3.5 hours to beat for the first time, but I was playing on Critical Mode at LV.60.
And it was the most fun I've ever had in any video game ever.
It is very complex, and very difficult.
But it is also fair, and had a ton of work put into it.
So I myself, consider it masterful.
Of course, all this is my opinion.
Feel free to disagree and all that.
But know that pretty much everyone disagrees with you...
@@kwedl
DAMN RIGHT
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Lol i didn't realize it was donguri until i saw the gameplay then looked down at the name. Absolutely amazing
I started watching this thinking "damn, this guy is clean" and then i saw who uploaded this and thought "makes sense"
二人のアクアによる華麗絢爛な舞踏の様で、とても美しいです。
素晴らしい動画を見せて頂き、ありがとうございます。
another awesome video Donguri keep it up :)
0:11 Who is that girl I see staring straight back at me?
When will my reflection show who I am inside?
Nyce =03! Real nice. Your attention to the choreography and camera work of the fights you do always makes it very enjoyable to watch =03!
Best boss in videogame history
Aqua vs. Phantom Aqua. The Master vs. The Fallen Angel. Also i really do spot similarities between this game and Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain.
This is just ground zeroes to 3's phantom pain
By that logic, birth by sleep is snake eater
That was smooth. I love me some 1080p60fps Donguri fights.
Seriously dude, i want your hands! your awesome, i love it.
ok kira
Beautiful
A Dark Aqua Preview!
I truly enjoyed this vid. And I never played any kingdom hearts game.
Practicing for the Darqua boss, I see
This game on the pro looks smoother, but I wonder if KH3 will look smoohter on the pro or if it will just be more stable.
Combo video in disguise.
Please do Ys VIII mad combo video!
Is that even possible?
Enemies don't stagger or anything.
And the skills don't really have many functions outside of pure damage.
I mean, all it would involve is people spamming skills and switching characters.
It might look cool but it only involves button mashing that a 5 year old could accomplish.
But hey, I'd love to be proven wrong.
:3
@@bnhearyza4767 Yes, very much possible especially when you have flash move & flash guard.
@@crozraven
Interesting.
I'd love to see it :3
This is a change, I like it
>DONGURI GOT INTO KINGDOM HEARTS
oh SHIT
Boss AI seems solid and combat and movement looks less clunky than BBS, if this is the direction they’re going then 3 may just be a good game afterall.
Cool 👍
I don't understand, which is the secret boss again? Donguri or that Mirror Aqua?
I dont think i did this boss :S
Can you tell what shes going to do via reaction? Or is this all practice and memorisation? I cant quite tell in the video
Dane Parnell it’s both. Similar to linger will in KH2 or other bosses in that game. She has sets of attack patterns. Which set she uses in any instance is random, but the patterns once she enters the set is the deterministic. Usually each set has a super easy to react opening move so you can tell which set
she’s using without taking a hit.
It also uses color and audio cues that are universal in the game to help you react.
Dane Parnell during any phase she has a limited moveset, and acting way forces her to do “x” attack, but she does pick randomly from her moveset and reaction does play into it; i beat her on proud at lv80~ and she doesn’t seem to have any fewer moves
Answer, pls, how many hours you played DMC4SE ?
What's your opinion on FFXV's gameplay?
Oh shit... MAKE A STREAM MAN, YOU WOULD BE FAMOUS!
did donguri already uploaded this fight?
0.2のやり込み要素やる気起きない😂
Should've played in Aqua Must Die difficulty.
MORE KINGDOM HEART VIDS PLZZZ
Please give me nero control details setup. Please
well this was unexpected
@donguri990 hey, you just mention you on dmc5 livestream
ohhh 49000 sub :D
U rlly like hack n slash games do you?^^
What focus attack is this in bbs?
Prism Rain (you get that shotlock in Stitch's world, Deep Space)
Aqua is THICC. 😍
If people on the internet don't stop misusing that word. 😂
Reflect magic is the best
thts her basic guard, not magic at all ;/
@@soku330 You know what I meant~ Reflect, Reflera, Reflega. All that jazz.
@@millionshadesofdarkness2165 Oh really? Never played this game, only played KH2.
But my opinion remains unchainged. Reflect is the best in these games x)
Never knew you into kingdom heart.
Booyeah! Really? Never knew that either.
Booyeah! Okey! Thanks.
Can u do gave me god of war difficult gameplay
Their is still no 1 in the RUclips who has beat the gave me god of war difficult y
Playing 0.2 and doing this boss, I was hopeful for KH3 to have rewarding boss fights and bosses that make you think a little. Then Anti-Aqua was not even a challenge. DMC5 please save me.
Kh isnt agameseries for chalange play other games for that or criticle.
Most boring boss fight there is. It would be way most interesting if Aqua is fighting against her older self.
Second can i get a like from you...