Battle Of The Guitars: Cheap Vs. Expensive - Which One Reigns Supreme?
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I have a Suhr Classic S and a 1996 PRS McCarty. I love them. But I used to own a Daphne Blue Japanese 50s Strat. I have lamented selling it years ago. Recently acquired a Classic Player 50s Daphne Blue Strat. I put Fender 59 pickups in it and it's magic. Now my fave guitar! 👍😁
I used to have a Yamaha back in the day too. Always liked the headstock design on these
Thanks for the memory, Rob. I remember getting the D&D rule book on release as a teenager. I spent a LOT of time being a DM then, usually skipping school to do so...
Bro I was obsessed!! Tunnels & Trolls was the best… I used to collect and paint miniatures all day long
@@RobChappers I was part of a wargaming club. We had 40 members and ran full Napoleonic battles in a 150 ft hall before I got into RPG and moved away from the club. D&D grew and became AD&D. I had around 200 lead figures, all painted to pro standard (until someone burgled my gaff and took the lot! Grr). I DM'd five campaigns for a team of six characters every Sunday for about four years. Twas such obsessive fun!
Cheapest I have is an Alhambra classical made in Spain. Great sounding, well made guitar. $250 at GC about 6 years ago.
What an interesting video! I find it very reassuring to see a person such as yourself, who really knows what he is talking about, drawing some well described and demonstrated conclusions. As always an inspiration!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I grew up (40 years ago) playing on a decade-old Yamaha acoustic that sounded amazing. It was my first guitar and played it religiously throughout my musical journey until someone sat on it in 1999 and broke the neck at the heal. I learned a lot on that guitar beside also having electric Fenders, Gibsons, Ibanezes... and several others. I've played every kind of music, been in many bands, but I'm 51 now and have retired due to health reasons. I went from old rockabilly, to blues, ACDC, Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Eddie Van Halen, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slayer, Death, Sepultura, and then I chilled out with that old Yamaha acoustic (at the end of it's life) writing music and playing in a blues band. Three years ago I started playing again and my main guitar is a Yamaha Pacifica, which is the best guitar I've ever had. I started with a Yamaha and I'm likely to finish with one. Love your stuff, Rob!
I can’t believe someone sat on your guitar and didn’t notice enough to break it!!!!!
@@RobChappers It happened at a going-away party for my grandfather who was moving away to a different state. There was some alcohol involved. I didn't notice until the next day when I picked it up and the strings where lack. Years later, I tried (and got close) to reviving it but the action wasn't there. I'd love to find a luthier that I could afford to get it back to where it was. I swear, that acoustic played like the smoothest electric!
Can u pls share with us which model of pacifica are u using now,thnx
Nice video Rob. My cheapest guitar is a Squire Bullet Strat and my most expensive is a Chapman ML1 Modern in black blood which I love. Shame I am a rather terrible player but I enjoy trying 😀
Hey rob, just want to say thank you for being yourself and giving all of us who watch so many fond memories. Started watching chappers and the capt about a decade ago when i was 13 years old. Today i am 24 and still watch!! Videos are always great. Love u pal, keep on rockin ❤️
Lots of good sense as ever Rob. 🎸👍🤘🏻
Hoy, I agree, I love my strat clone thing, 75 euro guitar, did a gig with it. It's great. Built it myself.
Now thats a nice chappers workshop!
Both great instruments.
Cheers rob.👏👏👏
Love the vids rob, always fill this limited player full of confidence
The washed out denim vibe of that top is phenomenal!
Thanks Man, yep she’s a pretty lady :-)
Had a Yamaha 112 and loved it! That new custom does scream a tiny bit. Nice
I actually got hold of a Yamaha 112 as an intermediate guitarist , and it's the only guitar that through the time I spent with it ( which was a lot for me ) I was only interested in becoming a better guitarist and learning... I have so called nicer guitars now , but to be honest even though they are more expensive they have minor issues that bother me. I'm on the hunt now for a perfect Tele and a perfect hard rock metal guitar....I've noticed that Yamaha now do high price Pacifica's , could be the perfect hard rock , metal , and blues guitar all in one...made in Japan too.
@@justice100forwin2 I only sold mine (to a student who still gigs it) because I built a guitar that did the same stuff a bit better and looked way cooler (IMHO!).
Love the shirt!!! I had the previous (purple) edition of the basic set before moving to AD&D... :D
I still have my 312 i bought in the late 80's can't part with it we have been on the journey together and i still love it.
My cheapest is a £15 Venom strat made for a beginner bundle by Dorling Kindersley back in the 90's or so. Most expensive is a Fender Roadhouse Deluxe MIM Strat. I enjoy both, the playability of some guitars with cheaper necks and softer frets can be kind of amazing. I think a big part is the feel of confidence that having a guitar you've invested time and effort in setting up yourself or having purchased in a state that is pro ready immediately.
I've owned a few guitars, and played many. One thing I have learned is, regardless of brand or price tag, guitars have personalities. Some guitars have awesome personalities, some have atrocious personalities. You won't know which, until you pick it up, and play on it. My oldest, and most beloved, guitar is a 1989 Charvel 650XL, that I ordered from Charvel/Jackson, brand new, in '89. It's a great guitar, and I would never part with it. However, she is very unforgiving, when it comes to playing. If I am not on top of my game, she will not cover for me, and I will sound like absolute shite! On the other hamfist, if I am playing well, she sings like beautiful demons (I play Hardcore, and sludgy Metal, so no angels singing, here, lol) and I actually feel myself bonding with her, and the energy of the universe, so we are as one unit, expressing the bombastic music of galactic collisions, super novae, and planetary birth and death! Plus, I put a very high output pickup in the bridge position, so it's very aggressive.
I must say, Rob, I'm kind of surprised you don't own a ridiculously expensive vintage Les Paul, or something, that you only take to church on Sundays, and no one is allowed to touch it. Most of the longtime guitarists I have known seem to have a thing like that.
Love the Red Box shirt 😁 We'll definitely need to nerd out on some D&D at some point 🎲
Wow!! My first guitar was a black Yamaha RGX312!!! It was awesome.
Pareto's law. Takes 20% of the work to get 80% of the ideal result. Thus the remaining 20% of the ideal result takes another 80% work or 4x what you have already put in to get 80% of ideal. Diminishing returns as you say. In this context being pragmatic and stopping at around 20% effort still gives you a good guitar; improvements after that are slow, small and expensive but they are real.
That little run at 4:37 when he switches to the neck pickup is quite nice.
My mate had one of these and we couldn’t work out how his sounded absolutely killer vs my own RGX612A.
Reckon those 312’s are using ceramic pickups, totally ace 90’s tone!
I played Parts Guitars cause I was raised in electronics in my family and I met my advanced guitar teacher Deric. I studied Ted Greene "Chord Chemistry". So the last guitars are mine. Cheers!
Holy hedgehog! I started on an RGX312 too! But it was red!
It's still at my dad's place
Couldnt agree more with every word you said!!
My most valuable guitar today is probably one I picked up for the cheapest price, A USA made Hamer special that I snagged in 1988 for $200. That axe just roars and snarls and lashes it's teeth
Love the idea of a guitar having teeth 😂😂
Ohhh. I would love to have one of those Yamaha guitars in that color... as we speak im searching for one :) thanx Rob
That was a nice video, thanks Rob. Love the tee and the mug.
I was fully expecting a PRS for the most expensive. The fact that the Chapman was a similar configuration to the Yamaha made it a bit more of a fair comparison.
Another fun video. Some guitars are just turds that will never have any potential. That said; it depends on what you want out of a guitar. I definitely love really nice high end builds, but I’m not rich. I learned how to work on guitars many years ago, skills and know how can make a terrible instrument into a far better one. A lot also depends upon how you play (me, not very well, but I know how to get serious tones!). I have guitars that I built/modified that are absolutely stellar players. I have guitars that suck, yet work for me. It’s always a fun journey.
My early 90s Les Paul epi was my first electric, it's a bit dinged, a bit tobacco stained I daresay and could probably do with some fret work, but it still sounds the sweetest and feels like a pair of comfy slippers. Couldn't be without it
Chappers being the best as usual.
Love the foundational claim. Man, that Chapman sounded delicious though.
That Yamaha was my first electric guitar. To this day, and many guitars later, I still own it and it has the neck I love the most.
That Yamaha looks cool. I like the paint and hardware aesthetically.
Rob! Love the shirt!
My first guitar was a Yamaha, too, although it was an acoustic. It was a well-made guitar that I learned most of my basic chords on.
Cheapest I use is a '94 Peavey Predator. Basically just your standard Strat copy, it does have an interesting and amazing feeling neck.
The neck on those USA made peaveys are weird. Never felt a neck profile like that before. I also have a predator. Learned how to play on one making every other guitar weird to get used to 😂
@@misterknightowlandco I have a 7 string predator, admittedly that is probably part of the reason the neck feels the way it does, but it almost feels like a nylon acoustic neck, very wide and flat. Pleasant spacing for barres and such.
I think my “cheapest” is an Epiphone TV Yellow Les Paul. My most expensive is an EC Stratocaster Signature.
My Yamaha is the 1992 rgx standard and it is still an amzing machine to begin with!!!!!
Cheapest i have is an Artist 335 copy, the most expensive is a 1987 Jackson Soloist custom in almost perfect condition (considering its age).
Nearly bought a soloist a few years back, the neck was incredible, even though I'm not a shredder and play folky sort of stuff, it was amazing, but the tremolo was atrocious. Best way to ruin a perfect guitar is to chuck a floyd rose on it lmao! Great guitars for sure.
Thx for presenting some HSS guitars !
I have a RGX 612A, A for Yamaha’s active pickups. I love that guitar. (Only down side is trying to find parts for the Yamaha RM (Rockin Magic”) Trem. Kind of a Floyd/Kahler hybrid. It’s truly an amazing super strat. Love those old Yamaha’s!!
Cool shirt Chappers!!!
I have that D&D book!!! Its the beginners rule book lol.
Still would love one of your guitars, jist as soon as i can find someone here that sells them lol.
Years ago, about mid 80's, I went to buy a new electric solid body guitar. I thought that I must buy a Fender Strat. Well I tried 7 from the shelf and wasn't thrilled. They just didn't feel right, didn't play well and didn't sound 'special'. The shop guy bought a new Yamaha which he said people were loving. It was the RG312 set up with a Floyd Rose tremolo. I hadn't heard or read anything bad about Yamaha so tried it. I thought it was brilliant and played so much better than all the Fender Strat's I'd tried. All the guitars I tried were about $1K (AUD), so the Fenders were all mid range. Anyway the motto is... It doesn't matter what brand it is, but the actual playability, sound and feel of an individual instrument that counts.
My cheapest is an Ibanez RG652AHMFX. Most expensive is a Schecter Custom Shop Sunset II. I love them equally, and sound exactly the same on either guitar.
Can never go wrong with Ibanez, I feel. I have an RG470ah which has the most incredible feeling neck and beautiful sounding pickups... Floyd Rose bullies me now and then thouugh lol, but I forgive it for the rest of the guitar haha
I recently bought an ONYX Ricky style guitar for $120 AU that plays and feels as nice as some of my other guitars that cost me 1000's of $. The only upgrade it needed was better pots. I was so happy with it. The price included postage & it arrived in only 3 days. I'll look up the model for you later the box is in storage atm. I also bought an older 90's Riviera Strat copy for $99 AU including postage and it's horrible. Looks great but needs a LOT of work to make it any good. I love it anyway. Sometimes you get lucky , sometimes not. Cheers Y/All.
The difference in tone between the 2 is like night and day... the Chapman is by far the better sounding instrument... would love to own one.
I couldn't agree more. For electric guitars anyway. For acoustics, that's an entirely different conversation.
I suggest going to the guitar shop and spending some time playing several guitars. Pick the one that talks to you and that you can't leave without buying. Then figure out how to pay for it.
One of my favorite Teles was a pink paisley Cort. I picked it up for about $250USD back in 1986.
Now I own a few really nice Fender Custom Shop Strats and Teles. They do sound better but I'm not sure that they give me better feedback than that old Cort. Maybe it's just that I am 100% comfortable and familiar with the Cort and I'm always afraid of putting a ding in the Custom Shop axes? IDK.
I still drag that Cort out of the case a few times every year...just to say "Hello. How are you getting along?".
I think currently, my favorite is a PRS SE Custom 22 Semi-Hollow in Black Gold.
But I don't own a Chapman yet. Maybe one of those would bump the PRS???????????????
My only bass is the most expensive guitar I own... But it's the only one I need so I don't care about the money
When I'm gone the law of diminishing returns doesn't matter anymore. I'll just try to make sure it'll end up in the hands of someone who appreciates it
Yeah that’s kind my point of view as well… I absolutely never buy Guitar with the intention of making a profit by selling it on, to me they are pieces of art that help to inspire Music, normally if Guitar doesn’t speak to me anymore I just give it away
@@RobChappers getting a good deal on a workhorse pays for itself so the law of diminishing returns is a myth
You lose money when you buy bad guitars and never play them 😋 simple as
My cheapest axe is an Ibanez Jem Jr converted into an Evo replica. Plays and sounds every but as good as my Strandberg Boden. Drop a set of half decent pickups in and fit decent hardware and your bargain guitar will be punching above its weight.
Nice guitars Rob, i thought you were gonna dig out a custom shop PRS as the most expensive guitar. That chapman is a lovely guitar though. I completely agree, the price doesn't matter, it's all about how it makes you feel
How are any of Robs guitars in working condition, up to his Andertons tricks bashing the headstocks XD
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@@RobChappers legend! 🤘
Considering the color alone on the Yamaha it´s a super cool guitar😎
Thanks for the vid. Both guitars sounded good.
I have also thought about making videos about my old shit, for the sole reason there are the most interesting videos to watch.
I agree. Electric Guitars are not really all that complicated or difficult to make, and there's no reason for them to be exorbitantly expensive to be good.
You should be able to find one that inspires you, doesn't break the Bank, and gives you the satisfaction of not being duped into spending more than what was actually necessary. Thanks
My least expensive guitar at this point is actually a Squier 12-string... used to be my original Epiphone Les Paul Studio... but I swapped the pups in it for Gibsons...
My Chapman workshop guitar is absolutely amazing...
How do you go about ordering a Chapman workshop guitar ?
@@justice100forwin2 I ordered mine direct from Chapman - not sure if they're still available at this point.
One of my favorite guitars I've owned - if not my outright favorite - is my old Ibanez RX40 that I got for, I think, $60-70 in a pawn shop, in the middle of nowhere. It was one of the least expensive guitars Ibanez made, at the time (and it shows a little bit), and wasn't really meant to blow anyone's mind.
But after giving it a light tune up, it immediately became one of my favorites. Over the years, I've swapped out the pickups, and honed in on strings I like for it, and it's a big chunky ripper.
The only problem I have is a crack in the body, near the neck, that formed when I last moved. Hopefully, it can be repaired, otherwise I'm going to have to rebody it, which would be a shame.
Oh bro I love the Tshirt!!
the Yamaha sounds a lot like my first Schechter, not bad but gets a bit muddy under heavy gain. (cheap pickups what can you say)
The sound is not my sound, that goes for both guitars, out of the two I preferred the crisp crunch of the chapman. It’s a great, unique sound and I think it would cut well through a mix. I would have to listen to it in the room to make a better judgement.
Says 1 piece neck for the Yamaha but you can see the Scarf joint on it
Rob, Can I ask if you have ever had any experience with Briggs USA guitars.?
I acquired one not long ago and they are quite something.👍
Hi David, I’ve honestly never heard of them but I will check them out :-)
The PRS Custom 24 Jeff gave you once must be more expensive 🤔.
That is at my storage in England. This is the most expensive guitar in my home studio.
@@RobChappers R.I.P. Jeff. Legend 😢. I love the old stuff you did together. Bought a 24 custom from him back in the days.
Hey, Rob, what is your workhorse guitar? And What is your least usable guitar?
Loved monkey lord but new chappers is great might try the new chapman guitars
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Nice promotional video Chapper
Hmmm i some what agree but i would say senargey as well and how much one practices and if it feels the dream special conection of any given guitariest
Guitardoids
I had the HH Pearl White version of that Yamaha!
I thought you would’ve had some old Ibanez jems tucked away somewhere no?
I thought the most expensive guitar was the PRS wood library one?
Most expensive guitar in my home studio!
Did you not sell that PRS within the last couple years?@@RobChappers
Theo’s may or may not have been sold because he’s a southpaw.
@@RobChappers clickbait says "own" and I was gonna bring up the wood library guitar you own too...mostly I think this was a commercial for the British Chapman guitars...
I mean he literally said the Yamaha still plays great and that spending more doesn’t get you more. I think the point was it doesn’t matter what brand your guitar is or where it was made. What is more important is that you love playing your guitar which is possible at any price point.
The sparkle on the Chapman rules.
The Yamaha is no slouch and could be EQ-ed to sound 'better' but that Chapman is just Aces sound-wise.
Plus it has a reverse headstock.
All I got from this video was that the most important thing is to wear a cool D&D t-shirt and then anything will sound and feel good :)
I read dave grohls book where he talks about playing the drums with his teeth. Looks like your doing the same. Kinda neat
We're you using the mic as decoration? Sounds like you ended up using the camera-audio? 😛
- edit - I should've watched the whole video 😀
Yeah sorry about that, so annoying…
@@RobChappers Nah it's ok. You're just human =)
If its made well, it will sounds and play great
When you spend more , the tone and the playability & comfort increases . But at the end of the day , it's your body , your choice lol . As for MIM Strats to USA made , I can tell a difference . Mainly comfort . And if you gig with a MIM , you will notice the hardware don't hold up BUT you can upgrade the parts and make a MIM strat sound incredible . JUST HAVE FUN !!!
Next up: Rob compares a Les Paul copy from the 1970's made by Kay or Satellite to a genuine 1959 Gibson Les Paul. 😊
Totally get what you mean, I've got some guitars that retail for like 5x some of the others that I've got, does that make them 5x better or the cheaper ones 5x worse? Not in the slightest, they've all got their different "thing" that makes me hold onto them and if I try something out and they don't give me anything in return, I just don't buy it in the first place!
If I've owned one guitar I've owned a hundred, and the only two that were ever purchased brand new were a Yamaha RGZ-321 and a Solar Vinter.
What is your mic pre?? The difference is astounding!!
Just the Sterling Harmony Preamp, super cheap but really does the job, even my microphones are Sterling - they make some incredible condenser and ribbon microphones
That yamaha is sick.
now that is some honest salesmanship right there ...
If a guitar makes you "need" to pick it up and play then it will be a friend to you for life no matter how much it does or doesn't cost.
My go to piece of delight ?
An EastCoast L1 Gold top. Just 200 quid but I can't sit down without it.
Is it a “one piece neck” when the fretboard is another type of wood? 🧐
Yeah man, a one-piece neck can also refer to a non-laminated neck with an attached fretboard. This construction is quite common and still provides many of the benefits associated with one-piece necks, such as structural integrity and stability 🤘🏽
That Yamaha sounded like a bag of spanners thrown down a lift shaft...
Clueless
All my guitars feel “alive” when I play them. Many guitars don’t have that spark. When you get that connection you know it.
I know exactly what you mean. I've had it a bunch of times, where what I've wanted hasn't been what I ended up with cos of it.
What about that beautiful Paolini or whatever that Italian one you just got. You put that in one of your top tier guitars?
I knew you'd be a D&D player dude. Nice....
That was most of my childhood, I even went live action role-playing with my dad one of my fondest memories
@@RobChappers I still run a (5th edition now) campaign on a Sunday if not gigging. I was 10 when I got the ol' 2nd ed yellow stripe DMG for Christmas. I used to be able to recite that thing...
Heya rob what happened to all the Gibson's and prs's that you used to own when you lived in the UK? Good vid to see though cheers!
All of my gear from the past 18 years of my life is still in the UK… I relocated to Malta and I’m trying to find a way of bringing everything over but it’s difficult
Those Yamaha were great guitars!
"one piece neck" means the fret board is part of the neck. That is obviously a maple neck with a rosewood fret board.
As a guitar builder, you should know this.
Many builders call it a one piece neck if it's not scarfed or multi laminate.
@@PaulCooksStuffcorrect
The term can either refer to a complete neck and board or a non laminated neck and attached board.
I’m using the term “One piece neck” to refer to a non laminated neck… this neck is made from one piece of wood.
1) Someone who manufactures guitars is called a “luthier”
2) The area of a guitar where the frets go is called a a “Fretboard”
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What are the names of the "legendary people" who make the Workshop Guitars?
“UKGB”, they used to build PJD as well.
What plugin are you using Rob?
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The individual guitar can sometimes make more difference than a certain model or spec sheet. I'd much rather have a cheap ringer, than an expensive spec'd to the nines dud. Thats why I never watch a RUclips guitar review for somebody's opinion. I dont need verification from someone else, to know if I've made a good decision. Like Rob said, at a certain point, whatever dollar amount you decide. Theres a law of diminishing returns. Anything above that amount, that offers no real tangible playing advantage. Is just personal taste and your choice. Is it better? Possibly. Does anyone else notice or care? Probably not.
Need vs Want :))
Today you can get very good guitars for a low price. You don't have to buy expensive guitars to get inspired. There are so many companies that building good guitars for a low budget without losing their quality. And you can still customize your guitar...
Nobody used bass wood navkin 80 90 s its a after 2010 crap basa wood they went to for what i remember in north canada
Thougnt the most expensive guitar you owned was that PRS you bought from Lee for five grand?
Yes, but he doesn't sell PRS so it doesn't make the advert...I mean video.