[Musescore 4 Test] - Paganini Caprice No. 1 in E Major

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @loganarichey4003
    @loganarichey4003  2 года назад +27

    Please like and subscribe to support my channel. More stuff coming soon 😊

    • @huailiulin
      @huailiulin 2 года назад

      u know you can add slurs and musescore 4 will interpret as ricochet

    • @loganarichey4003
      @loganarichey4003  2 года назад

      @@huailiulin thanks for the tip!

    • @isha9300
      @isha9300 Год назад +1

      @@loganarichey4003 Hi, does this have muse sounds??

  • @Timzart7
    @Timzart7 2 года назад +445

    I find it incredible, because for years, violin was one of the worst midi instruments. I've had MuseScore4 for a few days. I dabbled in wiring for string quartet, and downloaded orchestral things, but am going to have to get this from the Classical MIDI Archives immediately, and try this piece. Edit: I'm back. Yeah, tried it in mine and this is a good one. In contrast, the 24th sounds like violin from outer space.

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic 2 года назад +18

      It's always the same: short sounds like spiccato are easy to record, but sustained just sounds terrible. Had the same with EWQLSO

    • @wetube6513
      @wetube6513 2 года назад +15

      Because midi is so fucking shit we need a new format like MC or music file.

    • @-Meric-
      @-Meric- Год назад +10

      @@wetube6513 It's not the fault of MIDI, rather that sampling is an incredibly taxing and expensive process with limitations. Modeled instruments is the future

    • @-Meric-
      @-Meric- Год назад

      @@douwemusic EWQL is over a decade old. There are many better more modern violin sample libraries

    • @anthonymalone9987
      @anthonymalone9987 Год назад +1

      I think trombone midi is also pretty terrible

  • @Varooooooom
    @Varooooooom Год назад +165

    I need everyone watching this from the future to understand: Free violin VSTI’s have NEVER sounded this good.

  • @tukynii
    @tukynii Год назад +158

    Musescore is unbelievable powerful. The woodwinds trill actually makes the clicking noise from the button chattering, brass can actually blat, and the piano sample is insane

  • @thjs
    @thjs 2 года назад +150

    for a “notation software”, pretty impressive. imaging what they will release in future versions.

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 Год назад +1

      And a free one as well!

  • @seamtaro
    @seamtaro Год назад +11

    I'm astonished to see how this software has come so far. I've tested almost every possible instrument they have in store, and I'm speechless, this is a very big change and one-up for the softwafe, and I've been using this since the 2nd version. Salud to them for this great notation software, and for more updates to come.

  • @kuru9157
    @kuru9157 2 года назад +140

    So, scalar passages and double stops sound good, but any sound in which the bow adds nuance (ricochet, spiccato, sautille etc.) to the sound, like scratchiness or bounce, is lost. fascinating.

    • @benjaminmiller5649
      @benjaminmiller5649 2 года назад +10

      @@jellyfrogfish soundfonts are not made with ai. ai has nothing to do with this

    • @jellyfrogfish
      @jellyfrogfish 2 года назад

      @@benjaminmiller5649 oh well thanks for informing me. How are they made? I don’t really know much about this 😅

    • @Ineptune
      @Ineptune 2 года назад +19

      @@benjaminmiller5649 Actually, according to Tantacrul one of the lead developers of MuseScore MuseSounds is not a soundfont but rather a performance AI which can with limited success interpret the music giving a more realistic and musical output. It's more similar to note preformer in this regard.

    • @gammafoxlore2981
      @gammafoxlore2981 Год назад +1

      @@Ineptune Noteperformer has a synth component though.... this is only samples.

    • @Ineptune
      @Ineptune Год назад +1

      @@gammafoxlore2981 I was referring only to the performance AI and nothing else. Obviously Note Performer and MuseSounds are very different, but they're similar in that they both use AI to achieve a better and more musical playback.

  • @MusicalInquisit
    @MusicalInquisit 2 года назад +53

    Getting a solo piece to sound good, a string one at that, is immensely difficult. MuseScore 4 sounds pretty good, barring some articulations and portamento issues here and there.

  • @mattheusversianicardosodem4831
    @mattheusversianicardosodem4831 Год назад +2

    Dude that's incredible

  • @leonlinton634
    @leonlinton634 2 года назад +53

    Missing out difficult though possible notes towards the high and low ends of instrument ranges is one of M4's more noticeable issues.

    • @blob6371
      @blob6371 2 года назад +4

      Yeah I noticed that the cello caps off almost 5 notes before it’s highest stopped note (excluding false harmonics)

    • @willcorff
      @willcorff Год назад +5

      I noticed that with a horn piece I've been writing, it doesn't play extremely low pedal notes I know are possible because I play them every day warming up and it is a little annoying

    • @Hohhot
      @Hohhot Год назад +2

      Bass clarinet stops at C and soprano stops at F

    • @antoniozavaldski
      @antoniozavaldski Год назад +2

      I've noticed the trumpet stops at high C for instance.

    • @seanplayscl
      @seanplayscl Год назад

      @@Hohhot Which C for bass clarinet? I can understand double high C, I've only needed to go above that like twice, but 2 ledger line C would be inexcusable

  • @Johncowk
    @Johncowk Год назад +1

    Alright you've convinced me, imma download the thing.

  • @chrisfusion6945
    @chrisfusion6945 Год назад +3

    Me who still Prefers Musescore 2 for various reasons.

    • @chrisfusion6945
      @chrisfusion6945 Год назад

      @@loganarichey4003 Mainly I just completely prefer the piano sound of 2 over 3, that and to upgrade to I think I'd have to reformat everything I've made, which I'm not willing to do

  • @justxigoldenix9909
    @justxigoldenix9909 Год назад +6

    As someone who's played violin for a little over a decade, this isn't quite 100% there, but much closer than musescore 3 ever was.

  • @KlsoNl
    @KlsoNl 2 года назад +8

    This will take me my whole life to practice

    • @Dylonely_9274
      @Dylonely_9274 Год назад +6

      You will also need to practice a bit in heaven to get it right

    • @KlsoNl
      @KlsoNl Год назад +3

      @@Dylonely_9274 😩

    • @Dylonely_9274
      @Dylonely_9274 Год назад +1

      @@KlsoNl just joking, don’t take it bad ;)

  • @user-gl7qx1ww6r
    @user-gl7qx1ww6r 2 года назад +2

    IT SOUNDS SO REAL IM SCARED

  • @FodorPupil
    @FodorPupil 2 года назад +7

    I'm a violinist. It has improved, I'll give you that.

  • @mancaernst922
    @mancaernst922 Год назад +2

    this is actually really good! but what i hate most is the voice midi. i just can't. whenever i write something for vocals, i just put it in as piano because i can't stand the aAahh sound

  • @AriannaCunningham
    @AriannaCunningham Год назад +1

    Sounds very good with the Muse Violin Solo!
    I got a request: Can you do the 1st movement from Handel's Harp Concerto using Muse Sounds?

    • @AriannaCunningham
      @AriannaCunningham Год назад +1

      @@loganarichey4003 Also, you should notice that there are updates to the Harp and Percussion if you look in the Muse Hub.

  • @Ranakade
    @Ranakade 2 года назад +5

    Musecore is giving Spitfire Audio a run for their money 🤣

  • @SaxandRelax
    @SaxandRelax Год назад +1

    Why can’t MIDI saxophones sounds this good

  • @romulo-mello
    @romulo-mello Год назад +16

    I dont understand why musescore doesnt add the sounds for those high notes that according to the program itself are part of the instrument range. Almost every instrument is cut off like this now

    • @ENCELADUSCompositions
      @ENCELADUSCompositions Год назад +1

      The gray/green notehead just means it would be a difficult note for the instrument. Red means out of range. Like, a very low A# before the lowest G would be red. There's no real issue with the green notes, if you assume a talented player.

    • @romulo-mello
      @romulo-mello Год назад +5

      @@ENCELADUSCompositions yeah but for many instruments the green part doesn't have playback and sometimes even a part of the normal range doesn't

  • @norbertschanne1943
    @norbertschanne1943 2 года назад +2

    a) sounds really good, compared to earlier program/midi player versions and other score interpreters; however, double stops and cords still sound somewhat like hand-organ and less like violin...
    b) Does sound quality keep fairly high if you include the original bowing (with four 32nds on the same upstroke/downstroke).
    c) Guess that it neither can replicate the particular sound of the movement over all four strings with each stroke nor naturally-tuned double stops (rather than 12-tone-equally tuned)

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 Год назад +3

    Torture for Solo Violin 😂

  • @lizwohl4765
    @lizwohl4765 Год назад +2

    Here’s a video from the head of design of musescore 4 in case any one is interested in the amount of work that went into making this version’s midi, as well as everything else, so much better
    ruclips.net/video/Qct6LKbneKQ/видео.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

  • @Nomulus64
    @Nomulus64 2 года назад +5

    sounds very human, which violin sample did you usae violin solo 1 or violin solo 2

  • @claytonsimons3361
    @claytonsimons3361 Год назад +1

    I think this is actually a recording as at measure 18-22, you can clearly hear a difference to the notes as the playing differs from what's on the score

    • @claytonsimons3361
      @claytonsimons3361 Год назад

      @@loganarichey4003 that’s strange though because i tried recreating this piece on the same exact app for fun and used you as a guide, and i can hear the difference which is making me go insane because i checked a million times and it seemed perfect. also the exact thing i noticed was that some of the notes had a very brief rest after being played

  • @gsm2424
    @gsm2424 Год назад +1

    why it doenst reproduce the high notes?

  • @marcelouz1
    @marcelouz1 Год назад

    Hi, i am just looking and listening that the MusicScore 4 is a going to be sensational future notation software, I usually have been working with NOTION 6 , which is great also , very intuitive and have the customs rules to work with hundred the libraries of KONTACK by using the Keyswitches of course. Please let me ask you 2 questions:
    1.- Is it posible to work with other libraries like KONTACK and how you can handle de articulations and techniques ?
    2.- The complete library which comes with MusicScore is taken from recording sessions of real instruments? or they are synthetized , because to be free WOW! , you have to pay all the instrumentists and so on and so for.

  • @Zoom_1012
    @Zoom_1012 Год назад

    I've never used MuseScore before, but in order to hit the higher notes in the arpeggio's does the software allow you to simulate playing a note as a harmonic?

  • @inanis9801
    @inanis9801 Год назад

    I can't get it to play back properly at all. I think M4 can't properly assign cpu space and ends up throttling its self. Was this recorded using an apple device?

  • @anthonysandle5055
    @anthonysandle5055 Год назад

    Why does it give up on the notes that are "out of range"? I thought MuseScore just played them anyway?

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 Год назад

    Don't know how to download it if Musehub only gives errors and doesn't connect

  • @celebrityinterviews3691
    @celebrityinterviews3691 2 года назад +1

    excellent. is the score available for download?

    • @willcorff
      @willcorff Год назад +4

      It's in public domain i imagine, since its over 100 years old

  • @jean-baptistelore6959
    @jean-baptistelore6959 Год назад +1

    Bars 50 et 56, hight notes were lost in the process :/

  • @athishayjain.m.k9257
    @athishayjain.m.k9257 11 месяцев назад +1

    wwow sounds like live performed .....

  • @TheOldgeezah
    @TheOldgeezah Год назад

    Have you tried this with Dorico or (heaven forbid Sibelius) to see how they compare?

    • @TheOldgeezah
      @TheOldgeezah Год назад +1

      Dorico handles it equally well.

    • @teresamckendrick
      @teresamckendrick Год назад

      @@loganarichey4003 I use Sibelius and Sibelius 7 sounds aren't this impressive- don't have the other two but I'd expect NotePerformer to be really high quality too

  • @mysterium364
    @mysterium364 2 года назад

    This might be ok except for the fact that I hate Paganini. Thanks for the demo. Shows how solo strings sound. If I ever do it, I'm figuring out how to turn down the reverb. It kind of obscures the notes at this point, especially high fast double stop triplets.

  • @FrancoPasut
    @FrancoPasut Год назад +1

    Truly impressive. In a few years, we will no longer be able to distinguish between real and virtual performances. What will happen to violinists, pianists and other musicians?

    • @darionbuck4614
      @darionbuck4614 Год назад

      Lmao thats like saying what will happen to classical performances when we can watch them on RUclips. I'm in a city of 250,000 and Brahms 1st symphony was sold out the other night. Despite how good musescore sounds

  • @nootwithana
    @nootwithana Год назад +1

    It’s come so far, but it’s a shame that it will likely never become the standard if only for workflow and brand loyalty reasons. Just like Adobe, Sibelius and Finale have a firm grip on the market.

  • @EanMC
    @EanMC 2 года назад +1

    why is it slightly flat 💀

    • @J.A.Seyforth
      @J.A.Seyforth 7 месяцев назад

      solo violin has tuning issues, I can't get my head around it for legato playing, it's terrible for that, sounds like shit and is driving me insane

  • @noah7624
    @noah7624 Год назад +2

    Unfortunately, low brass instruments sound atrocious in Musescore.

  • @mario737dom
    @mario737dom 2 года назад +1

    Torture for solo violin haha

  • @randomcontentgenerator9404
    @randomcontentgenerator9404 2 года назад

    hell nah i aint playing allat

  • @48exa
    @48exa 2 года назад +19

    There are real people who can play this????

    • @kumo-kun1831
      @kumo-kun1831 2 года назад +21

      Oh yes sure it does! Just search Paganini Caprice 1 on YT! Roman Kim had the most craziest rendition 😂

    • @awsickler
      @awsickler 2 года назад +19

      This is a pretty standard piece of violin repertoire

    • @48exa
      @48exa 2 года назад +2

      @@awsickler people are amazing sometimes i guess

    • @davedonnie6425
      @davedonnie6425 2 года назад +6

      I'm not the best violinist in the world but I think if you can get the bow articulation then it's just some shifting and some tough hand frames

    • @michelangelodamelio6490
      @michelangelodamelio6490 2 года назад +4

      @@davedonnie6425 i think this is one of the most difficult paganini's caprice

  • @tomasloyolaorellana6244
    @tomasloyolaorellana6244 Год назад

    Wat