So you flew first class to-check-up-on-a-pool-hall?? 😀 can you adopt me? I'm 41, got a good job, know how to cook so you'll have zero issues with raising me and you can have another sparring and travel partner!
YES TALENTED POWER BREAK STROKE, FOLLOW NOR DRAW U NAME IT IF ONLY HE CAN UPGRADE HIS COMPOSURE, CALMNESS SO HE WILL NOT CHOKE THAT'S HIS WEAKNESS HIS TENSE ADRENALINE
A lot of people, even Filipinos, find him cocky. But I like this guy. You need that large of an ego to be at the top. Each and every highly ranked player expresses that extreme confidence differently.
I play with the Revo and really like it but the pricing is a scam. A good wood shaft takes a year or more to from scratch while a cf shaft can be made in a hour with less than a $100 invested in materials. A Revo should cost less than a 314 .
Exactly. The prices are out of control. There is nothing to these carbon shafts. (I'm sure they have to throw out a few blanks here and there that don't meet tolerances. But nothing close to all the maple shafts that get tossed (plus the manufacturing time takes months. I'm sure the carbon blanks are all manufactured by China slave labor. Or hell maybe even China farms it out to tiawan or something. $35-50 for a good cueball. Custom cue $1500-3k for a plain classic 4 point depending on maker. Break cue 500$ . piece of chalk 20 bucks. Case 300$. good 9ft pool table 6-10k. (Crazy to think people pay pool table prices for just a cue from someone like southwest. Ive hit them and honestly...they are Not even that great imo).
@@CueListings and cheaper way cheaper to produce. It be like finding steal socket sets where better after gold ones where the standard and then making the steal sets cost 2 times more.
The world is supply vs demand. If they have demand at a high price, then they are going to price it high. Their is no such thing as FAIR in this world.
Interesting comment about consistency. In your experience, will a high quality wooden shaft really perform so poorly in terms of consistency on the harder shots?
Yes. Unfortunately it’s in woods nature to react to the environment(s) it’s brought into. Humidity. Hot. Cold. It will change over time. You might change with it, but a carbon fiber shaft will shoot the same on day 1 and 1000.
@@CueListings room conditions or table conditions effect play way more than the material your shaft is made from. Never seen a guy loose a match cuz he was using a wood shaft have you? Lmao. People crazy. Ps I've got to try that bridge technique
@@alphacapo I agree with you on a subjective basis and agree with Cue listings objectively, but I think the devil is in the degree of change. The other day I saw an APA handicap 2 switch cues because he said the one he was using had too much deflection. LOL. Deflection is completely irrelevant at his level of play. Having said that, the difference carbon fiber makes is irrelevant unless you play at a level that exceeds efren 15 years ago. Translation, its irrelevant for basically everyone.
@@CueListings I couldnt understand what he was saying about carbon and hard shots? what did he say exactly? Also, it sounded like he said he's going to thailand to play with players from Japan? Sounded like Japan but no way #1 player from Japan would get that big of a handicap. And did he really say he's giving 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ball in a betting match with this #1 player from Thailand or Japan?
Snooker players still use wood and snooker is a much more difficult and precise game. Not all pros are using carbon fiber shafts. Properly sealed wood will not swell or change it's feel when shooting; that is an over hyped marketing scam. Shoot with what feels right to you, no reason to spend extra money on high tech gear, use that money for quality professional lessons and your game will improve more than buying a CF shaft.
@@CueListings As does carbon fiber. Epoxy resin changes and the carbon fiber weakens due to flexing. There are numerous discussions on this topic in the field of archery. Eventually the carbon fiber arrows splinter and many people have had the shaft penetrate their forearms when the arrows fail. How long does a carbon fiber cue shaft last after repeated hits? No one knows, but it does change and they will fail. When the snooker champions switch to something other than wood, so will I......
@@briangc1972 Snooker also has smaller balls though. Really champion snooker players and champion pool players are both top level cueists... I don't think one is necessarily better than the other - wood vs. carbon.. and I personally can't tell a huge difference when playing.. but it does make sense that carbon is a bit more stable -- especially when you always leave your cues in the car, like me.
I’ve only shot like 50 shots with a Fury. I guess it’s “OK”, but there are alternatives. I don’t mean to sound negative, but..there are (good) alternatives. Having said that, if YOU like it..it’s all that matters.
Basically same thing as Lucasi these days. They're production Chinese cues and they're not horrible, but not amazing. I'd personally not really recommend them.
@@markinjhawkland724 i have always played with a mcdermott gcore 13mm. I thought that i should order the rogue 12.9, so im staying the same size im used to, but im leaning towards the 12.4. Pechauer said that is the most popular size, it is what fisher uses, and it is only 0.6 of a millimeter difference from my gcore.. Not exactly a drastic change. I ordered a custom pechauer butt 3 weeks ago. Still waiting for it, then ill order the shaft. Fyi i played allison a few months ago, and took a few vids of her on my yt channel
Just remember that it doesn't mean your going to shoot like Jeffrey if you buy one. I'm using one right now, but players like Filler and Shaw are both using wood shafts right now, and shoot just as consistent, arguably even more so than Jeffrey. He is sponsored also so consider that. Jeffrey can shoot just as consistent with a good wood shaft..
Shaw does not have the option of playing with a carbon fiber shaft. His sponsor don’t make one. Jeff was not speaking about his sponsor, but carbon fiber shafts in general..
@@CueListings I've read all your arguments, and you made some cogent & salient points. Yet still not definitive data. If we could show, how a world level pro...let's take my favorite for example, "The South Dakota Kid", he might derive more comfort of some sort playing with the carbon, but his performance is statistically the same. And I'm sure Shaw could request of his "sponsor" to develop/manufacture a carbon if he really believed based on empirical analysis that the material would be more efficacious for his game; & listen, the one time US Open Champ needs all the help he can get, he's been getting knocked out of tournaments left, right & all around. But I'll leave that argument alone. The more curious case, is the sensational preternatural Joshua Filler, he actually played with a carbon, but went back to wood. What gives? My friend, if you are actually doing objective observations, and not just trying to argue/defend your subjective narratives, why not ask Filler's highly qualified opinion? I mean, because after all, you're just trying to provide quality content that seeks truth, right? 🙂
I switch between carbon fiber and wood a decent amount and ill say this, at the same basic weight of cue, the carbon fiber feels heavier, way more solid, spinning shots is 2x easier, i can get some absurd force follow and draw with them. If you're a power stroke player it's not hardly a debate which one to pick.
@@scottbranson7872 Do you mean that I should stick to a wooden shaft, becase the carbon shaft will tranfer much more (too much) energy to the cue ball, when using my usual power strokes?
@@bjarkenielsen8515 Heck no, go carbon fiber, your power will increase dramatically. What used to be medium hard difficulty shots starts drifting towards the easier side. Those two rails draws that have to get to the other short rail, can just punch them right in. Around the horn follow shots, it's so much easier to get the spin right, it's not deviating all over the place.
@@Stellarffxi well big part of the game is determine by the pressure of the match and how players handle their nerves,muscle twitch and concentration.Of course using a bridge is an advantage as it replace the hand that would hold the cue making it more stable and no more middle finger twitch while stroking... who thinks its an handicap hahaha
Which part of Pakistan are you based?. Are you in Rawalpindi?. My cousin plays pool there and heading there myself next month. Message me if you would like to meet up for some pool. Salaam alaikum brother 🎱☪️🛐
Just a bridge? Really he needs to pay everyone in the room 100 for the energery they have to excert for no slappen’ him… Bridge every shot? Really.. find your own planet…
@@CueListings 😂 still not enough.. 😝😜 that Fargo is all good in national thai " ONLY " not in World caliber tournaments.. EARL THE PEARLS STRICKLAND IS LAUGHING IN YOUR FACE NOW
Yet Earl helped with the SMO JFlowers LD shaft. I wonder if he shoots with one. He once blamed Cuetec for "completely destroying my game" after they dropped him from sponsorship.😅
You missed a GOLDEN opportunity to ask the bull his thoughts on something about the Mezz ignite that other players have complained about. For hard and soft hits, apparently the deflection on the ignite is higher vs a medium hit.
I prefer the contrast of the light colored shaft over the dark on most color felts that I've played on... so I prefer some things about wood as well.. but I play with a carbon shaft solely because it won't get dents and dings from me wackin it on lights, tables, etc....
So you flew first class to-check-up-on-a-pool-hall?? 😀 can you adopt me? I'm 41, got a good job, know how to cook so you'll have zero issues with raising me and you can have another sparring and travel partner!
Sounds great! Sign us up! :D
We all know he went for the hookers...
😂😂😂😂
Used a bridge on every shot. I didn't even know you could do that. Total tech precision - AWESOME!
Met him in Vegas, he was actually friendly and gave me some tips on my game
my favorite player to watch... one of the most purely talented players ive ever seen...
How do you measure talent? Jeff has invested thousands of hrs into the game, blood, sweat and tears.
YES TALENTED POWER BREAK STROKE, FOLLOW NOR DRAW U NAME IT IF ONLY HE CAN UPGRADE HIS COMPOSURE, CALMNESS SO HE WILL NOT CHOKE THAT'S HIS WEAKNESS HIS TENSE ADRENALINE
Jeff in the Glasgow Celtic jersey Jayson gave him, top blokes. Great vid
Thanks, John!
Glasgow rangers lad. Big jock knew ya nonces
He is fun to watch play. His draw shots are crazy good.
A lot of people, even Filipinos, find him cocky. But I like this guy. You need that large of an ego to be at the top. Each and every highly ranked player expresses that extreme confidence differently.
Wood all the way for me though. Natural hit and feels better. I tried carbon fiber and was not happy
`Your choice.
I play with the Revo and really like it but the
pricing is a scam. A good wood shaft takes a year or more to from scratch while a cf shaft can be made in a hour with less than a $100 invested in materials. A Revo should cost less than a 314 .
Exactly. The prices are out of control. There is nothing to these carbon shafts. (I'm sure they have to throw out a few blanks here and there that don't meet tolerances. But nothing close to all the maple shafts that get tossed (plus the manufacturing time takes months. I'm sure the carbon blanks are all manufactured by China slave labor. Or hell maybe even China farms it out to tiawan or something.
$35-50 for a good cueball. Custom cue $1500-3k for a plain classic 4 point depending on maker. Break cue 500$ . piece of chalk 20 bucks. Case 300$. good 9ft pool table 6-10k. (Crazy to think people pay pool table prices for just a cue from someone like southwest. Ive hit them and honestly...they are Not even that great imo).
Carbon fiber shafts are way more reliable and consistent compared to a wooden shaft. That's a fact.
@@CueListings and cheaper way cheaper to produce. It be like finding steal socket sets where better after gold ones where the standard and then making the steal sets cost 2 times more.
The world is supply vs demand. If they have demand at a high price, then they are going to price it high. Their is no such thing as FAIR in this world.
Hello there again,will be in Pattaya sometime soon and will visit this place,tell me please does the shop there sell anything worth looking at?
Nice! Tell them hi from me! They sell JFlowers and other brands.
@@CueListings I will pass on your greetings and thank you.
I use a wooden shaft but a carbon fiber bridge.
Wood has a nicer feel. It hits more natural
Wow. Brilliant insight into the difference between carbon fiber and wood shafts.
Interesting comment about consistency. In your experience, will a high quality wooden shaft really perform so poorly in terms of consistency on the harder shots?
Yes. Unfortunately it’s in woods nature to react to the environment(s) it’s brought into. Humidity. Hot. Cold. It will change over time. You might change with it, but a carbon fiber shaft will shoot the same on day 1 and 1000.
@@CueListings room conditions or table conditions effect play way more than the material your shaft is made from. Never seen a guy loose a match cuz he was using a wood shaft have you? Lmao. People crazy. Ps I've got to try that bridge technique
@@alphacapo I respectfully disagree. It starts with the cue, and from there you adjust to the room and table conditions.
@@alphacapo I agree with you on a subjective basis and agree with Cue listings objectively, but I think the devil is in the degree of change. The other day I saw an APA handicap 2 switch cues because he said the one he was using had too much deflection. LOL. Deflection is completely irrelevant at his level of play. Having said that, the difference carbon fiber makes is irrelevant unless you play at a level that exceeds efren 15 years ago. Translation, its irrelevant for basically everyone.
@@CueListings I couldnt understand what he was saying about carbon and hard shots? what did he say exactly?
Also, it sounded like he said he's going to thailand to play with players from Japan? Sounded like Japan but no way #1 player from Japan would get that big of a handicap. And did he really say he's giving 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ball in a betting match with this #1 player from Thailand or Japan?
Would love to have him come to st louis mo have some people that would enjoy just meeting that guy.
He used to play in Dallas fairly often. I would see him at the Billiard Den in Richardson every day for a month or so...
I'm sure he would come if you invited him with a good "deal". He's for sure a natural entertainer!
AWESOME VIDEO!!! Love Jeffrey De Luna...and his brother Jack De Luna!! Two of my fellow LEFTIES!!! GET BACK TO USA Jeffrey...ASAP!!!👍👍👍👍
in western standard he is not cocky at all
HOW YOU DOIN!!!!!! Hahahaha
Thanks for the new video!
My pleasure. It’s a short one. More coming up!
@@CueListingsstill cool to see you out and about and talking to Jeff 👍 short but sweet
Thank you, sir :)
Does he prefer the carbon fiber bridge?
Can you elaborate what you mean by "carbon fiber bridge"?
Snooker players still use wood and snooker is a much more difficult and precise game. Not all pros are using carbon fiber shafts. Properly sealed wood will not swell or change it's feel when shooting; that is an over hyped marketing scam. Shoot with what feels right to you, no reason to spend extra money on high tech gear, use that money for quality professional lessons and your game will improve more than buying a CF shaft.
Wooden shafts will change over time
@@CueListings As does carbon fiber. Epoxy resin changes and the carbon fiber weakens due to flexing. There are numerous discussions on this topic in the field of archery. Eventually the carbon fiber arrows splinter and many people have had the shaft penetrate their forearms when the arrows fail. How long does a carbon fiber cue shaft last after repeated hits? No one knows, but it does change and they will fail. When the snooker champions switch to something other than wood, so will I......
@@briangc1972 Snooker also has smaller balls though. Really champion snooker players and champion pool players are both top level cueists... I don't think one is necessarily better than the other - wood vs. carbon.. and I personally can't tell a huge difference when playing.. but it does make sense that carbon is a bit more stable -- especially when you always leave your cues in the car, like me.
@@Stellarffxi The top finishers in Las Vegas last week were using wood shafts.
which carbon fiber shaft does he play? What size?
Mezz Ignite 12.2
Hail hail the celts are here
Also, any thoughts on fury cues?
I’ve only shot like 50 shots with a Fury. I guess it’s “OK”, but there are alternatives. I don’t mean to sound negative, but..there are (good) alternatives. Having said that, if YOU like it..it’s all that matters.
In your personal opinion, 300USD jflowers with cf shaft, or similar priced maple fury cue?
@@danielcoetzee9139 If faced with that decision, I'd go with JFlowers 7 days a week, and twice on Sundays :D
Basically same thing as Lucasi these days. They're production Chinese cues and they're not horrible, but not amazing. I'd personally not really recommend them.
Seems like there’s a high percentage of good left handed pool players.
Yea, lefties tend to be pretty good in a lot of sports! Once they get to be good, they are REALLY good!
Just got a CF not too long ago from Sawdust Custom Cues. Is anyone here familiar with them?
I haven't heard about that brand before.
His breaks are straight on wild! The bull 🤟
Goes he break using a bridge, too?
Im getting a pechauer rogue. It's what allison fisher uses
Wisconsin cue maker. There are an unusual number of great cue makers in Wisconsin.
I've been using the rogue for about a year and really like it. It has a softer hit than most CF shafts that I have tried.
@@markinjhawkland724 what diameter size rogue did you go with?
@@janetairlines1351 12.9mm. I like a thick shaft 😂I also have the 12.4/12.5? Rogue. It’s good too.
@@markinjhawkland724 i have always played with a mcdermott gcore 13mm. I thought that i should order the rogue 12.9, so im staying the same size im used to, but im leaning towards the 12.4. Pechauer said that is the most popular size, it is what fisher uses, and it is only 0.6 of a millimeter difference from my gcore.. Not exactly a drastic change. I ordered a custom pechauer butt 3 weeks ago. Still waiting for it, then ill order the shaft. Fyi i played allison a few months ago, and took a few vids of her on my yt channel
He offers 5 and out for the best player in the country? What the actual fuck...
Insane!
That would be like a b minus player in the philippines
What else was going down in Pattaya? 🤣
Ohhh this city has a lot to offer 🥂🌴
Just remember that it doesn't mean your going to shoot like Jeffrey if you buy one. I'm using one right now, but players like Filler and Shaw are both using wood shafts right now, and shoot just as consistent, arguably even more so than Jeffrey. He is sponsored also so consider that. Jeffrey can shoot just as consistent with a good wood shaft..
Shaw does not have the option of playing with a carbon fiber shaft. His sponsor don’t make one. Jeff was not speaking about his sponsor, but carbon fiber shafts in general..
@@CueListings I've read all your arguments, and you made some cogent & salient points.
Yet still not definitive data.
If we could show, how a world level pro...let's take my favorite for example, "The South Dakota Kid", he might derive more comfort of some sort playing with the carbon, but his performance is statistically the same.
And I'm sure Shaw could request of his "sponsor" to develop/manufacture a carbon if he really believed based on empirical analysis that the material would be more efficacious for his game; & listen, the one time US Open Champ needs all the help he can get, he's been getting knocked out of tournaments left, right & all around. But I'll leave that argument alone.
The more curious case, is the sensational preternatural Joshua Filler, he actually played with a carbon, but went back to wood.
What gives?
My friend, if you are actually doing objective observations, and not just trying to argue/defend your subjective narratives, why not ask Filler's highly qualified opinion?
I mean, because after all, you're just trying to provide quality content that seeks truth, right? 🙂
I switch between carbon fiber and wood a decent amount and ill say this, at the same basic weight of cue, the carbon fiber feels heavier, way more solid, spinning shots is 2x easier, i can get some absurd force follow and draw with them. If you're a power stroke player it's not hardly a debate which one to pick.
@@scottbranson7872 Do you mean that I should stick to a wooden shaft, becase the carbon shaft will tranfer much more (too much) energy to the cue ball, when using my usual power strokes?
@@bjarkenielsen8515 Heck no, go carbon fiber, your power will increase dramatically. What used to be medium hard difficulty shots starts drifting towards the easier side. Those two rails draws that have to get to the other short rail, can just punch them right in. Around the horn follow shots, it's so much easier to get the spin right, it's not deviating all over the place.
i like jeff english than the Ko brothers
Carbon Fibre is like Ash Wood. It does nt vibrate.
Carbon is much more stable than Ash...
What's the name of the tip please?
Did you even watch the video?
Jeff uses a tip from Kamui.
That is very weird 😳 playing with a bridge to play pool! That's just stupid
It was part of the bet.
Oh ok 👍
It is strange as it's not really much of a handicap at all... but whatever!
@@Stellarffxi well big part of the game is determine by the pressure of the match and how players handle their nerves,muscle twitch and concentration.Of course using a bridge is an advantage as it replace the hand that would hold the cue making it more stable and no more middle finger twitch while stroking... who thinks its an handicap hahaha
Which part of Pakistan are you based?. Are you in Rawalpindi?. My cousin plays pool there and heading there myself next month. Message me if you would like to meet up for some pool. Salaam alaikum brother 🎱☪️🛐
Norway
Hail hail 🙌
Just a bridge? Really he needs to pay everyone in the room 100 for the energery they have to excert for no slappen’ him… Bridge every shot? Really.. find your own planet…
It's his fault he is that good?
@@derbyjakemalazarte8973 always depends on the pool hall you play....
TOP 10 POOL HALLS IN THE WORLD WITH NO TOP LOCAL POOL PLAYERS 😂 😂
Hmm..there are about 10 players at around Fargo 650-700 in the area.
@@CueListings 😂 still not enough.. 😝😜 that Fargo is all good in national thai " ONLY " not in World caliber tournaments.. EARL THE PEARLS STRICKLAND IS LAUGHING IN YOUR FACE NOW
Earl has earned the right to laugh in most people's faces :D #Legend
KAMUI SOFT???
Yeah... usually CF is paired with soft tip since CF is hard or stiff so to balance the impact usually CF is paired with soft tip
@@rexpacificussabay5771 Damn, I wish I knew that before buying my CF. I ordered Kamui Medium.
🍀
Well Earl prefers wood shafts. So...yeah.
Lol
Earl likes wood shafts so he could easily break it when he is mad 😂
Yet Earl helped with the SMO JFlowers LD shaft. I wonder if he shoots with one. He once blamed Cuetec for "completely destroying my game" after they dropped him from sponsorship.😅
You missed a GOLDEN opportunity to ask the bull his thoughts on something about the Mezz ignite that other players have complained about. For hard and soft hits, apparently the deflection on the ignite is higher vs a medium hit.
really doubt he's going to say anything negative as he likely has some form of sponsorship...
@@Stellarffxi true, but curious as to whether he notices it and has some technique to counterbalance that
The questions was pertaining carbon fiber shafts in general. Not the one from his sponsor.
Blah blah
I play better with wooden shafts
I prefer the contrast of the light colored shaft over the dark on most color felts that I've played on... so I prefer some things about wood as well.. but I play with a carbon shaft solely because it won't get dents and dings from me wackin it on lights, tables, etc....
Boy abno
🇵🇭🎱 🐂
Screw Glasgow Celtic