Cliff use to live in Dunstable he liked a drink and became homeless. But he was a gentle giant not a bully just a nice guy. My best mate and wife became alcoholics I tried helping them and family but in the end they Died from the alcohol.
Michael bisping won the ufc middle title with only one eye. Conned the Drs in the pre fight checks. Once fighters are past their best and can't line the pockets of others they are discarded.
@@theswan9432 that's my point Ray is saying that his family should of done something but it doesn't work that way as you said he could only help himself. Read my comments properly before commenting back ya schtinka
Alright Ray, respect. Do you reckon Cliff Fields at his peak would’ve lasted more than 30 seconds against Big Brian Cockerill, the world’s strongest man and the hardest man in England, 40 stone of solid muscle, undefeated in 10,000 street fights and WWE wrestler?
Ray, I feel you are being judgmental so I ask you, "Who helped you out when you had an addiction"? Only the addicted can help themselves, no one else can. Family and friends get pushed aside by the addicted one. This is a sad case but one that is spread over the world thousands of times a day.
You are so right about when people do nothing for someone when they are alive but once they die, they say how much they loved them and they would have helped them etc, but its All talk and its always angered me! I must say though my family are an exception to that rule
Bill, Bang bang wasn't always there 247 mate just like many others, + Cliff WOULD NOT listen to his friends after a booz up which by that time it was too late, the damage and deaf ears was dun !!
Well done Ray love the way you talk about Cliff ....Cliff was a very very tough man but also very kind to normal folk. Im from just down the road from Cliff in Luton. I got an awesome t shirt made and printed of Cliff and everyone asks about him he was a Legend Ray ....well said 👊🏼
@@bangbangrayhill2218 Hes head and shoulders above both Lenny and Roy even said Cliff was the Guvnor .... we can't argue with that. Keep remembering him Ray he deserves it ...Good man keep up the good content and take care
Very sad about Cliff Fields everybody always says they will help people after they die a sad death but at the time apart from you Ray he probably had very few true genuine friends, there is NO loyalty amongst criminals or honest people anymore .Very sad
Yes yes yes crazy how family's say why didn't he contact me yes I was trying to get hold of him for ages and all crying round the coffin ⚰ haha its mad
@@bangbangrayhill2218 Love & respect Ray. Also Ray, that last video you broadcasted on the lineage of unlicensed fighters you knew brought back great memories! I knew Terry Sharpe. We used to train together at 'The Henry Cooper' in Old Kent Road from 1990- 1992. Great guy! That time, the pub (The Henry Cooper) was managed by the great Teddy Haynes! Lovely gentleman! Respect bro. 🙏
Bobby Warren was a gangster at the tracks was Frank Warrens uncle he went to jail for seven years for cutting Jack Spot with Bert Rossi, Ginger Ted Dennis, and Frankie Fraser and and worked with Albert Dimes. Frank Warren said he wasn`t getting paid he did it to helps out his uncle Bobby. You`re right Ray they need to reprint Cliff Fields book if someone picks it up it will sell they will make a profit.
Out of Sight Out of Mind familys today dont want to know everybody never has enough some people would never ask for help or likely accept it you should always offer and insist judge not least ye be judged
Ya it does but try and make it last as long as it can without giving it stuff to kill it I was on crack for 8 years I got off it as I new it was killing me respect thanks mate
Hi Ray. Seems such a sad story about cliff fields. On these type of channels I have near known a bad word said against him. The phrase gentle giant seems to follow him around seems ever so sad. Maybe inner demons Ray ?? You can never know what is happening in someone’s life when they are by themselves. So much time to think and with drink unfortunately I am there and it’s lt can get to you. Become reclusive etc. very sad story. Thank you for your videos Ray.
Ray did Cliff have cirrhosis of the liver? Maybe he did the family wrong who knows.
Cliff use to live in Dunstable he liked a drink and became homeless. But he was a gentle giant not a bully just a nice guy. My best mate and wife became alcoholics I tried helping them and family but in the end they Died from the alcohol.
Paying someone, shouldn't mean you are entitled to shout at them
Michael bisping won the ufc middle title with only one eye. Conned the Drs in the pre fight checks. Once fighters are past their best and can't line the pockets of others they are discarded.
Big respect for for that and thanks so much great comment
you shouldn't be criticising cliffs family ray,there's things you don't know
Ray if you was such a close friend of cliff why did you let him go like that 💁🏾♂️
Your 💯 so right won't say something out of turn what I will say I was one of the arseholes that should of been there for him
Big respect for getting it right
Addicts can only help themselves, what's he supposed to do cgain him up?
@@theswan9432 that's my point Ray is saying that his family should of done something but it doesn't work that way as you said he could only help himself. Read my comments properly before commenting back ya schtinka
FRANK BRUNO DETACHED RETNA. OKAY HARRY.
Respect and thanks for that as well as Joe Frazer
Alright Ray, respect. Do you reckon Cliff Fields at his peak would’ve lasted more than 30 seconds against Big Brian Cockerill, the world’s strongest man and the hardest man in England, 40 stone of solid muscle, undefeated in 10,000 street fights and WWE wrestler?
Ray, I feel you are being judgmental so I ask you, "Who helped you out when you had an addiction"? Only the addicted can help themselves, no one else can. Family and friends get pushed aside by the addicted one. This is a sad case but one that is spread over the world thousands of times a day.
Why don't you find out what happened to cliff fields really instead of saying you heard this n that happened to him
he knows and he's spouting cover ups
Cliff Fields book is on google and it’s saying 4 bucks.
Brilliant Ray I just watched the last 30 seconds. It said so much 👌🏴
Whe used to drink together in Dunstable park along with the other piss heads of that time, lovely bloke and looked after yah as a mate !!
You are so right about when people do nothing for someone when they are alive but once they die, they say how much they loved them and they would have helped them etc, but its All talk and its always angered me! I must say though my family are an exception to that rule
Why didn’t you help him when you see him like that
Bill, Bang bang wasn't always there 247 mate just like many others, + Cliff WOULD NOT listen to his friends after a booz up which by that time it was too late, the damage and deaf ears was dun !!
Some people are beyond help ray, but ultimately everyone has to take responsibility for themselves
Yes your right but he really did need help he had a big family I'm just gutted
@@bangbangrayhill2218 I know how you feel Ray. Its gutting.
And when you saw him like that, what did YOU do for him?
Ray get back to these stories mate 👌🏴
Great story Ray any updates on the book?
Well done Ray love the way you talk about Cliff ....Cliff was a very very tough man but also very kind to normal folk. Im from just down the road from Cliff in Luton. I got an awesome t shirt made and printed of Cliff and everyone asks about him he was a Legend Ray ....well said 👊🏼
Yes he is a Legend and I won't to make him like Lenny McLean and Roy shaw why not R.I.P cliff field thanks and big respect for your comment
@@bangbangrayhill2218 Hes head and shoulders above both Lenny and Roy even said Cliff was the Guvnor .... we can't argue with that. Keep remembering him Ray he deserves it ...Good man keep up the good content and take care
Fraser shaver or do ray a favour
Ray have you done a book
I've done 100.000 words witch is a book we are just putting all together solicitors and other things respect for asking
More old school gangster stories you always put a smile on my face .it seems I'm a dead man walking not long left in this world for sure crocket 😈😀
Haha yes w I'm the same I'm gonna do loads more pls believe
I wouldn't know who he was but only for your storys mate.
Seen loads on him since
Very big powerful who hit so hard with ether hand and a gentleman as well and a mate of mine
I think the drink got hold of him mate. That's what I think..
💯 right respect
Very sad about Cliff Fields everybody always says they will help people after they die a sad death but at the time apart from you Ray he probably had very few true genuine friends, there is NO loyalty amongst criminals or honest people anymore .Very sad
Yes yes yes crazy how family's say why didn't he contact me yes I was trying to get hold of him for ages and all crying round the coffin ⚰ haha its mad
Thanks for comment big respect
@@bangbangrayhill2218Ray of you was such a good friend why did you let Cliff go that way 🤔
Correct Ray, it was Joe Frazier that had a damaged left eye right at the beginning of his career.
Big respect and thanks for the comment
Good to hear from someone else
@@bangbangrayhill2218 Love & respect Ray. Also Ray, that last video you broadcasted on the lineage of unlicensed fighters you knew brought back great memories! I knew Terry Sharpe. We used to train together at 'The Henry Cooper' in Old Kent Road from 1990- 1992. Great guy! That time, the pub (The Henry Cooper) was managed by the great Teddy Haynes! Lovely gentleman! Respect bro. 🙏
GRAND story's Ray
Bobby Warren was a gangster at the tracks was Frank Warrens uncle he went to jail for seven years for cutting Jack Spot with Bert Rossi, Ginger Ted Dennis, and Frankie Fraser and and worked with Albert Dimes. Frank Warren said he wasn`t getting paid he did it to helps out his uncle Bobby.
You`re right Ray they need to reprint Cliff Fields book if someone picks it up it will sell they will make a profit.
Out of Sight Out of Mind familys today dont want to know everybody never has enough some people would never ask for help or likely accept it you should always offer and insist judge not least ye be judged
Who do you think would win between Malcolm price and Lenny MacLaine
Ray Hill you are a good man a straight man on way you talk and what you have done. I ask you Where is this country going?
Its sad that age has too come, but come it does.
Ya it does but try and make it last as long as it can without giving it stuff to kill it
I was on crack for 8 years I got off it as I new it was killing me respect thanks mate
@@bangbangrayhill2218 true Mr H,, was the white for me,,done many years without now,,cant even stand the smell,can smell it a mile away,,lol
I heard he was glassed by gypsies in Ceasers in Luton where he was working
Hi Ray. Seems such a sad story about cliff fields. On these type of channels I have near known a bad word said against him. The phrase gentle giant seems to follow him around seems ever so sad. Maybe inner demons Ray ?? You can never know what is happening in someone’s life when they are by themselves. So much time to think and with drink unfortunately I am there and it’s lt can get to you. Become reclusive etc. very sad story. Thank you for your videos Ray.
Happy birthday mate have a great day
He just gone on the drink went to far got hurt in a fight with travelling people just give up big shame