4:00 Red and blue zerglings lining up in row formations to fight. It looks like they are trying to reenact a battle between Brits and Americans in the Revolutionary War.
"I'll take a zerg match." "Will that be all sir?" "Oh uh, with mutalisks." "Daring today, aren't we?" Jokes aside, I enjoy a Z vs Z~. I think one commenter put it best. "Z v Z is like watching 2 people knife fighting in a telephone booth." Hahah~. Dude, these games were BRUTAL though. Just 0 drones both times. OOF.
FWIW, zerglings cannot miss uphill. The only units affected by terrain miss chance are SCVs, marines, ghosts, vultures, siege tanks, goliaths, probes, dragoons, archons, photon cannons, drones, and hydralisks, and only when attacking a ground unit that is at a higher elevation or on a doodad.
Yes but rarely. The problem is the current map meta (9 minerals + gas in main, gas in exp also). With more minerals and less gas, other non-muta based strats would be created.
Man, what was Absolute thinking in game 1? His opponent is committing hard to ling aggro and he's gonna _start_ his mutas when those lings have already made it up his ramp...? Sawdust brain, for sure.
Because current maps are broken for zvz. There should be special maps with more mineral patches and/or less gas, and we would see hydra builds, or at least a balance of builds, not mutaling 99%
Rarely there are longer games, where you see ultralisks. Maybe lurkers too, I don't remember. Hydras alone... no, they're just bad vs zerg units in general.
Agree, and it should be simple to make such a map. Natural exp without gas with an easily defendable choke on high ground or narrow, so that no more than 2 lings can atrack at the same time. That type of map would make it easy to take the natural, and would favor hydra strats because those require a lot of minerals. 2-base lings/hydra would beat one-gas mutaling plays. The hydra guy could even add a lurker or two to kill mass lings. And we would see a totally new zvz meta.
That was great! I like a good zvz set. Having said that the video is like 11 minutes long, id much prefer not losing over 2 minutes of game 2 at the beginning. I know they were just developing their build and hadnt attacked one another but the games are short, let us just see all of them!
I hate mirror matches. But least hated of them all for me is ZvZ, cause it always ends very fast. So i like ZvZ. Then goes PvP. And then TvT most hated of all for me. Too long. Almost always. xD
why skip over 2min of game 2? have noticed you start videos into the match but never over 2mins into a game. EDIT : The game ended up being 8min. so over 25% was cut out.
Zelot showing his experience in those fast and bloody zvzs. Good cast as always
I wouldn’t want to face Zelot in a ZvZ lol dude is a monster of these fast, "killer instinct" type games…
Miaaw
That muta battle is like a cartoon ball of violence.
Haha, well said!
7:30 "nice Congo roll here" - Thought the verbal typo was funny so I'm engaging with the video :-)
Hey arty! Thanks for the cast as usual!
Miaww
4:00 Red and blue zerglings lining up in row formations to fight. It looks like they are trying to reenact a battle between Brits and Americans in the Revolutionary War.
Good cast! Well played Zealot, it's always good to watch his games!
"I'll take a zerg match."
"Will that be all sir?"
"Oh uh, with mutalisks."
"Daring today, aren't we?"
Jokes aside, I enjoy a Z vs Z~. I think one commenter put it best.
"Z v Z is like watching 2 people knife fighting in a telephone booth."
Hahah~.
Dude, these games were BRUTAL though. Just 0 drones both times. OOF.
“2 Gamblers” - Artosis
I watch ZvZ hoping that we'll have a unicorn game that goes to hive
Not the biggest fan of ZvZ but these two matches were enjoyable, Zelot is the best at those with his aggressive style.
We always comment about how good the terran music is... but we gotta give some love to zerg music as well!! Infected Mushroom vibes anyone?
11:07 did one of those scourge come out yellow?...
Love to get back from holiday and have a week long backlog to watch through
FWIW, zerglings cannot miss uphill. The only units affected by terrain miss chance are SCVs, marines, ghosts, vultures, siege tanks, goliaths, probes, dragoons, archons, photon cannons, drones, and hydralisks, and only when attacking a ground unit that is at a higher elevation or on a doodad.
I knew Zealot was gonna win when he took out Terry the Overlord!
Such a knife fight of a ZvZ game! It felt like if I were to blink, I would miss out on a key moment and the game would be over 😅
Has a professional high level ZvZ ever gone into like, queens, defilers, hydras, etc.?
Yes but rarely. The problem is the current map meta (9 minerals + gas in main, gas in exp also).
With more minerals and less gas, other non-muta based strats would be created.
Or just take away the gas at the naturals. 👍
>zvz, bo3
>11 minutes
as always
And at the very last second a golden scourge appears :-O
Thanks, Atrosis!
can barely believe there were two games in there. Aggressive zerg players man
Man, what was Absolute thinking in game 1? His opponent is committing hard to ling aggro and he's gonna _start_ his mutas when those lings have already made it up his ramp...? Sawdust brain, for sure.
I like Zed vs Zed.
Do you like Zed v Zed?
Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
Yikes on the time stamp for a best of 3. Lol.
Underwear Overlords
Thank you RT ❤❤❤
The ol' 11 minute bo3 ZvZ
There should be a rule in ZvZ where neither player is allowed to make a Spire for the first 10-15 mins or something XD
Are other units except lings or mutas ever used in a ZvZ? Curious why we never see one player go hydra instead of muta
Hydras lose to lings bad, and they're also not as mobile as mutas and you don't have map control
Because current maps are broken for zvz. There should be special maps with more mineral patches and/or less gas, and we would see hydra builds, or at least a balance of builds, not mutaling 99%
Rarely there are longer games, where you see ultralisks. Maybe lurkers too, I don't remember. Hydras alone... no, they're just bad vs zerg units in general.
it's quite enjoyable to watch zelot
I like zvz it's hectic
Zealot's zvz reminds me of Maxpax pvp
I watch all of your videos. I really appreciate what you do. Like and comment for the algorithm
I love ZvZ. On a knife's edge from the very start
Another good one
at least zerg mirror is fast
I wish for more variety in ZvZ. Someone has to come up with new strats. Or we need special ZvZ maps.
Or special rule. In ZvZ you can atack after 10 minuts:D
Agree, and it should be simple to make such a map.
Natural exp without gas with an easily defendable choke on high ground or narrow, so that no more than 2 lings can atrack at the same time.
That type of map would make it easy to take the natural, and would favor hydra strats because those require a lot of minerals.
2-base lings/hydra would beat one-gas mutaling plays. The hydra guy could even add a lurker or two to kill mass lings.
And we would see a totally new zvz meta.
I didn’t like zvz at first but now that Boredom has shifted to pvp
impressive games by zelot
That was great! I like a good zvz set. Having said that the video is like 11 minutes long, id much prefer not losing over 2 minutes of game 2 at the beginning. I know they were just developing their build and hadnt attacked one another but the games are short, let us just see all of them!
It was fine like this as far as I am concerned.
here we go again.... zvz :D but its ok theres arty to make it all better
Knife fights
zvz for when you only have 5 mins to watch some broodwar
No matchup is good all the time. I could see getting sick of ZvZ but it hasn't happened yet.
I hate mirror matches.
But least hated of them all for me is ZvZ, cause it always ends very fast. So i like ZvZ.
Then goes PvP.
And then TvT most hated of all for me. Too long. Almost always. xD
Artosis I love ZvZ !!!!!!!!
3:35 Heh...
Underwear
why skip over 2min of game 2? have noticed you start videos into the match but never over 2mins into a game.
EDIT : The game ended up being 8min. so over 25% was cut out.
I actually prefer ZvZ to PvP
For the algo
Like & comment bro
: )
expanding there is so greedy wow
Bring back ban/unban
Zvz is the dumbest matchup in the history of starcraft
No, PvP is.