You all wanna play hardball with the guy who sacrificed Battlestar Pegasus, defended President Balter in court, upstaged the president his first Quorum meeting, knocked Anders down when he tried to break ranks, and stood up to his father’s orders when he tried to arrest Rosalin. Pushing Lee Adama to do what you want never seems to work in our in whoever is pushing him’s favor.
They're playing hardball with the guy who sacrificed a tactically superior vessel and who's father almost nuked a planet. I'm sure that'll go over well. It's also strange that D'Anna would've committed to mutually assured destruction since, if she fired those nukes, Galactica would've annihilated her Basestar.
you forget, she has allready target the ships, you dont now how many nukes would go to Galactica and even than, with out the fleet Galactica would die slowly, cuz Water will run out, Tylium would run out and foot would run out
Like him or dislike him, here's a list of why you don't play hardball with Lee "Apollo" Adama. 1) Pulled a crazy Ace Combat tunnel run to slip behind Cylon ADA when there was no guarantee that the route would get there 2) Pulled a gun on a superior officer during a coup attempt 3) Orchestrated the escape of the President following that Coup 4) Defended Gaius Baltar in Court 5) Argued successfully to Adama and Roslin the need for continued elections and democratic process 6) Upstaged members of the Quorum in their first meeting post-election 7) Used a relatively untested stealth fighter on a major strike mission 8) Took command of a Battlestar he had never served on and destroyed an enemy base star to escape with the crew 9) In the process of sacrificing Pegasus, killed THREE Basestars in one engagement 10) Has knocked down insubordinate juniors...physically Lee makes hard calls whether you like them or not.
You forgot 11. Shot the owner of the Black Market in the head for threatening to harm a kid and her mother (granted, he had been sleeping with the mother, but even so).
As far as I am concerned, Tigh is a better man than Apollo, Cylon, or no Cylon. Sacrificing Pegasus was dumb as s**. If he was a tactician like his father he could have saved it. If I was Tigh, I would have put a bullet through his head for pulling a gun on me. Had no loyalty to his father but yet wanted respect from him. Sanctimonious nonsense.
Going through the comments, I'm surprised no one noticed that when Starbuck switched the airlock safety key, Lee pressed the button. And all he gives is a blank stare when she says Saul and the others have the way to Earth. No hesitation out of Lee when Tigh told him to airlock him. Amazing scene.
there aren't many shows where people repeatedly praise the music even when it's not the main topic of the upload, i see it a lot with these clips. a sign of greatness.
3:19 This is Season 4 Episode 10, and this is the first time that what they did to Humanity is something that requires forgiveness is even a concept to a Cylon.
I think I just figured out the Cylons. They’re petty. They think of rhymes, scriptures, and reasons for why they “deserve” the things that they claim they are after, but that’s never the reason why they do things. They’re petty. They want want humans have. The first Cylons were the children of humanity, and like a child shouting at their parents when they don’t get to do something their parents get to do, the Cylons angrily lashed out at humanity. They didn’t talk. They didn’t reason. They attacked, because a child’s answer to a problem is to continuously throw themselves at the thing they want until it’s theirs. An undisciplined and ungrateful child anyway. They threw a fit and made a fuss. They felt they somehow deserved what humanity had but instead of asking for it they sought to take it, because they’re petty. They believe that only they should have it because originally they didn’t, and that the only way to earn it is through force. Compare this to every other lash out by the Cylons. Flesh and blood. The peace the twelve colonies had after the war. A chance for survival when the fleet escaped. New Caprica. The life that Saul made for himself on Galactica (the one Helen tried to take away when she realized he liked it just as much as he liked her). And here with the final five. When the Cylons see someone else with something they don’t have, they lash out. They ignore reason, logic, or diplomacy. They just attack. Because they can’t stand it when someone else has something that they don’t have.
Cavil said much the same at the end. Instead of charting their own destiny, they tried to hijack humanity's. In the end, the Raiders left to explore the galaxy, never to return. They may have even escaped the cycle by doing so, whereas humanity is condemned to repeat history, with the birth of AI leading to humanity's destruction and rebirth, and eventually to discovering AI and etc etc. All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.
@@ansonfrog8094 I was thinking the same but replace republicans with democrats. But be honest, all politicians, no matter what party they belong to, react like this when it does not go their way. And it is global.
They're kids and teenagers who figured out the power before the wisdom but then Apollo says the same thing in the finale about humanity, about our minds and technology outracing our hearts.
Say what you will about Tigh, his willingness to volunteer to die, to sacrifice his own life to save everyone else in that moment...how he faced his death, actually _told_ Lee to do it...
The real MVP of this clip was the set designers, or whoever built that functioning display setup for the Viper. Considering this was in 2004 (?), thin displays like your smart phone or computer didn't exist yet.
D'Anna was always one of my favorite BSG character. That creepy coolness of hers always drew me in. But in this scene, she was really pissing me off. So much for her so-called enlightenment. And wasn't there a phone Starbuck could've used?
I mean she was also on the hanger deck when she was in her Viper. I mean I get the ships big but if she HAD to run running straight down the flight deck would have been faster the running through EVERY corridor this ship had.
The amazing thing is that Ron Moore said that they basically gave Bear McCreary very little instruction and checked in on him very little after initial meetings. He just did all this shit on his own by sheer creative force season after season.
@@splatoonistproductions5345 This specific track is called "The Signal", by Bear McCreary. Fun fact, the chanting is actually Samoan. Roughly translated, it means: "Sacrifice to live, Live to die, Give your last breath, On the altar of a new war. So say we all."
The BBC here in the uk have started showing BSG, seeing clips like this.. Can't wait to see this thru to the finale ( even though I know how it pan's out)
While dramatic to watch Starbuck run the width of the ship to tell Lee she has the coordinates of Earth and saves the XO, she could have just picked up an phone and told him, risking a lot less.
"There entire human race will die with them." Say what you will about Lee fracking Adama but that dude definitely would do it if you push him hard enough.
There also wasn't a lot of experienced/qualified humans left. Everyone doing multiple roles when they live in a fleet with limited resources makes sense.
There are rumors about a new tv show coming up that somehow has a connection to this iteration of BSG. I guess it's a reboot with the kind of the same plot, all of this has happened before, and it will happen again, I guess.
I saw a trailer Richard Hatch made years ago for a potentially sequel to the original BSG series he wanted to produce and star in. Maybe it'll be something like that. Or the series will have elements of the original and the 1st reboot.
It said: "There must be some way out of here" Said the joker to the thief "There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief" Businessmen, they drink my wine Plowmen dig my earth None of them along the line know what any of it is worth
I'm pretty sure I remember Starbuck actually found her crashed viper along her her body. It's what made her realize she actually died and then came back. I'm guessing her consciousness, or "soul" is what came back and she just inhabits a new body.
Starbucks father was a cylon, the missing one that we never see and is boxed. He is described as being artistic. Kara is the first cylon/human hybrid. How she becomes a ghost? who knows, it's a sci-fi dues ex. but her being special is due to being a cylon hybrid.
Same. I didn't like the convoluted spiritualism and human-cylon aspect of it. Its like they didn't know how to end it and just changed ideas every other episode
I never understood why everyone keeps talking about how smart and level-headed and morally upstanding Lee is, and here he is prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives despite not having the authority to do so by killing some of his kind of/sort of friends and Saul, who didn't really do anything except tell the truth. I think this level of apathy and selfishness exuded by almost every single character by the end was why this season sucked so hard
Lee's betting on the fact that the Cylons don't want to lose the Final Five since that will mean losing Earth since it's really the only option where everyone could come out alive. If it wasn't for what he did, there'd be no guarantee that the Cylon's wouldn't just nuke the Fleet after they got what they wanted (since they were already willing to do so). After all, D'anna stated that the humans would never forgive them for what the did to the Colonies, meaning destroying them here an now while they had the chance would be the smartest move. It should also be noted that this is on the same level as Adama threatening to nuke the algae planet when the Cylons chose to ignore their agreement and send down Heavy Raiders.
@@cb-gz1vl Not only that, but it makes no sense they printed spare clones of Cylon designs they deemed "unknown" (Unless there where confidential batches even the cylons couldn't look into) Even if the Hub was active they would've really died for sure.
@@jonumine6250 Season 4 proved that the Final Five could resurrect thanks to Ellen, though we have no idea whether or not it was standard Resurrection or if it was a one-time custom deal since Cavil was aware of what Ellen was.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I always disliked most of the music in the new BSG and I'm glad it didn't become more popular and become a more widely used style. I found it dischordant, often jarring and not suited to the genre.
You all wanna play hardball with the guy who sacrificed Battlestar Pegasus, defended President Balter in court, upstaged the president his first Quorum meeting, knocked Anders down when he tried to break ranks, and stood up to his father’s orders when he tried to arrest Rosalin. Pushing Lee Adama to do what you want never seems to work in our in whoever is pushing him’s favor.
What's great is that Baltar is one trying to explain that fact to her
Don't forget ordering his wife to rescue his side ho. That takes B-A-L-L-S ok. BALLS.
BALLS OF HARDNESS
Also he pulled a gun on Tigh...
Tory's advice to push Lee was hilariously misinformed.
They're playing hardball with the guy who sacrificed a tactically superior vessel and who's father almost nuked a planet. I'm sure that'll go over well.
It's also strange that D'Anna would've committed to mutually assured destruction since, if she fired those nukes, Galactica would've annihilated her Basestar.
Yeah, but D'Anna is Fn crazy.
you forget, she has allready target the ships, you dont now how many nukes would go to Galactica and even than, with out the fleet Galactica would die slowly, cuz Water will run out, Tylium would run out and foot would run out
@@akalnm9622 Hence why I said 'mutually assured destruction'.
Like him or dislike him, here's a list of why you don't play hardball with Lee "Apollo" Adama.
1) Pulled a crazy Ace Combat tunnel run to slip behind Cylon ADA when there was no guarantee that the route would get there
2) Pulled a gun on a superior officer during a coup attempt
3) Orchestrated the escape of the President following that Coup
4) Defended Gaius Baltar in Court
5) Argued successfully to Adama and Roslin the need for continued elections and democratic process
6) Upstaged members of the Quorum in their first meeting post-election
7) Used a relatively untested stealth fighter on a major strike mission
8) Took command of a Battlestar he had never served on and destroyed an enemy base star to escape with the crew
9) In the process of sacrificing Pegasus, killed THREE Basestars in one engagement
10) Has knocked down insubordinate juniors...physically
Lee makes hard calls whether you like them or not.
You forgot 11. Shot the owner of the Black Market in the head for threatening to harm a kid and her mother (granted, he had been sleeping with the mother, but even so).
As far as I am concerned, Tigh is a better man than Apollo, Cylon, or no Cylon. Sacrificing Pegasus was dumb as s**. If he was a tactician like his father he could have saved it. If I was Tigh, I would have put a bullet through his head for pulling a gun on me. Had no loyalty to his father but yet wanted respect from him. Sanctimonious nonsense.
The dude also threw up a hell mary in the first or second episode and used a tactic in a live combat situation which never worked at the academy.
you forgot that he blew up the olympic carrier and also punched starbuck in the face
Going through the comments, I'm surprised no one noticed that when Starbuck switched the airlock safety key, Lee pressed the button. And all he gives is a blank stare when she says Saul and the others have the way to Earth. No hesitation out of Lee when Tigh told him to airlock him. Amazing scene.
It's a bit understated that Tigh was fully willing to die and urging Lee to airlock him in order to get the Cylons to cooperate
A Patriot, Soldier
Tigh for all of his flaws, was the best of the best. He may have been a Cylon but he was one of the most human characters.
He's assimilated into his roll as XO, FRIEND, AND HUMAN. He'd launched himself before any harm came to Galactica or the fleet.
HEHDUFIKWLAH!!!!!
Tigh is a better soldier and patriot than Lee will ever be.
there aren't many shows where people repeatedly praise the music even when it's not the main topic of the upload, i see it a lot with these clips. a sign of greatness.
The way airlock warning alarms sync with the rising drums at 4:26.
French kiss.
FrEnCh KiSs 🤡
*Chef's kiss, lol... not French kiss. 😂
3:20 honestly I really liked this line because it showed simply the reason D'anna did all this because she was afraid.
The sheer fucking poetic justice of Tigh being saved by the one person with whom he and her mutually hated each other's guts the most...
They were buddy buddy once they got to New Caprica.
@@sethzwicker3631 Yeah, after the New Caprica arc they were pretty simpatico.
Hated their GYUTZ
3:19 This is Season 4 Episode 10, and this is the first time that what they did to Humanity is something that requires forgiveness is even a concept to a Cylon.
I love that nod of respect Tyrol gives Tigh as the doors shut. 3:33
I think I just figured out the Cylons.
They’re petty.
They think of rhymes, scriptures, and reasons for why they “deserve” the things that they claim they are after, but that’s never the reason why they do things. They’re petty. They want want humans have.
The first Cylons were the children of humanity, and like a child shouting at their parents when they don’t get to do something their parents get to do, the Cylons angrily lashed out at humanity. They didn’t talk. They didn’t reason. They attacked, because a child’s answer to a problem is to continuously throw themselves at the thing they want until it’s theirs. An undisciplined and ungrateful child anyway. They threw a fit and made a fuss. They felt they somehow deserved what humanity had but instead of asking for it they sought to take it, because they’re petty. They believe that only they should have it because originally they didn’t, and that the only way to earn it is through force.
Compare this to every other lash out by the Cylons.
Flesh and blood.
The peace the twelve colonies had after the war.
A chance for survival when the fleet escaped.
New Caprica.
The life that Saul made for himself on Galactica (the one Helen tried to take away when she realized he liked it just as much as he liked her).
And here with the final five.
When the Cylons see someone else with something they don’t have, they lash out. They ignore reason, logic, or diplomacy. They just attack. Because they can’t stand it when someone else has something that they don’t have.
Cavil said much the same at the end. Instead of charting their own destiny, they tried to hijack humanity's. In the end, the Raiders left to explore the galaxy, never to return. They may have even escaped the cycle by doing so, whereas humanity is condemned to repeat history, with the birth of AI leading to humanity's destruction and rebirth, and eventually to discovering AI and etc etc.
All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.
they're the perfect republicans.
@@ansonfrog8094 I was thinking the same but replace republicans with democrats. But be honest, all politicians, no matter what party they belong to, react like this when it does not go their way. And it is global.
They're kids and teenagers who figured out the power before the wisdom but then Apollo says the same thing in the finale about humanity, about our minds and technology outracing our hearts.
It's not the politicians. It's certain people. Those politicians came from somewhere. George Carlin said it best.
Say what you will about Tigh, his willingness to volunteer to die, to sacrifice his own life to save everyone else in that moment...how he faced his death, actually _told_ Lee to do it...
One of my favorite scenes of the entire show and the music just puts it over the top.
The real MVP of this clip was the set designers, or whoever built that functioning display setup for the Viper. Considering this was in 2004 (?), thin displays like your smart phone or computer didn't exist yet.
Its called rear projection and is old as fck.
actually it wasn't far off from the real fighter jets back then since MFDs' been on aircraft since the 80th
Around early 2008, this would have been, end of season 4.0, before the last 10 episodes.
We had laptops and handheld computers in 2004...
Great scene. Bears soundtrack just steals it though :)
Deci what’s the name??
Splatoonist Productions I think it’s called The Signal.
I have two phones.
How did I forget this? Man, there was so much good stuff.
D'Anna was always one of my favorite BSG character. That creepy coolness of hers always drew me in. But in this scene, she was really pissing me off. So much for her so-called enlightenment. And wasn't there a phone Starbuck could've used?
So true why couldn’t she just call lee on a phone? But then you know drama.
@@fredlandry6170 😂🤣
I mean she was also on the hanger deck when she was in her Viper. I mean I get the ships big but if she HAD to run running straight down the flight deck would have been faster the running through EVERY corridor this ship had.
@@biwamasa Lol... I know, right. 😁
@@biwamasa The hangar deck is half a kilometer long btw. Also the Viper might have been on the hangar deck on the other side.
Lucy Lawless was so delicious as D’Anna. A chilling villainess.
that soundtrack wow
Omg I’ve been listening to it a lot lately!
Buy the soundtrack, the CD is amazing.
The amazing thing is that Ron Moore said that they basically gave Bear McCreary very little instruction and checked in on him very little after initial meetings. He just did all this shit on his own by sheer creative force season after season.
MazerMetroid know the soundtrack???
@@splatoonistproductions5345 This specific track is called "The Signal", by Bear McCreary.
Fun fact, the chanting is actually Samoan. Roughly translated, it means:
"Sacrifice to live,
Live to die,
Give your last breath,
On the altar of a new war.
So say we all."
The BBC here in the uk have started showing BSG, seeing clips like this.. Can't wait to see this thru to the finale ( even though I know how it pan's out)
While dramatic to watch Starbuck run the width of the ship to tell Lee she has the coordinates of Earth and saves the XO, she could have just picked up an phone and told him, risking a lot less.
"There entire human race will die with them."
Say what you will about Lee fracking Adama but that dude definitely would do it if you push him hard enough.
That would have been stupid. It would prove nothing
@@Necromonger69 that's the point. We're humans.
@@phrophetsamgames As humans, we should learn to rise above that and realize there is something bigger than us. Lee acted on impulse and that's it.
Lee. Viper pilot. Cag. Lawyer. President.
When u are the main role, u need to juggle many hat :p
He is a one stop shop for a main character or anything else the writer want him to be at the time. 🤔
You missed Battlestar commander
There also wasn't a lot of experienced/qualified humans left. Everyone doing multiple roles when they live in a fleet with limited resources makes sense.
Seen it, I know how the scene ends. Still makes me hold my breath.
It almost made Tigh hold his too.
@@XR171 I see what you did there. Good one. 😏
pitch perfect show. everything about it is so utterly cool
whats goin on there is alot of activity goin on in this channel are we about to get another cyclon attack (new series)
all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
There are rumors about a new tv show coming up that somehow has a connection to this iteration of BSG. I guess it's a reboot with the kind of the same plot, all of this has happened before, and it will happen again, I guess.
I saw a trailer Richard Hatch made years ago for a potentially sequel to the original BSG series he wanted to produce and star in. Maybe it'll be something like that. Or the series will have elements of the original and the 1st reboot.
@@StarTrekMarcoSomething new in this cause, which her you preach?
Just discovered BG. Binging it all! Fantastic drama.
BSG*
What'd Starbuck say at the end? It sounded like, "Those frakkin' Cylons just gave us Earth!"
Close. She said “Those three frakkin Cylons just gave us earth.”
I just like how Tyrol is bemused and done with all this while everyone else is morose or on complete edge.
anyone know what the morse code Starbuck picks up says?
It’s an emergency beacon from the “dead” Starbucks viper that crash landed on the cylon earth.
@@tammymartinez7488 Yes but what does it SAY. It's morse code, therefore it's words... what are those words?
Would be easier to tell if it weren't so damn quiet
KMCA779 I don’t think it is Morse code?
It said: "There must be some way out of here"
Said the joker to the thief
"There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief"
Businessmen, they drink my wine
Plowmen dig my earth
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth
This scene needs more Tricia Helfer.
Baltar was my favourite
2:19 🤣🤣🤣
Just dropped in to explain the rules of this new drinking game: every time someone in the comment says hardball, you have to take a shot 😂
Every time the drums start more like.😂
I dont understand the whole starbuck angel arc though was that alternate version that came back to the fleet
I think so, but I am not sure what... the angel arc with her and gaius and six was a bit odd, but didn't take away too much from the show
I'm pretty sure I remember Starbuck actually found her crashed viper along her her body. It's what made her realize she actually died and then came back. I'm guessing her consciousness, or "soul" is what came back and she just inhabits a new body.
@@MikMoen she found her crashed viper with her skeleton wearing her uniform with Leobin and he literally ran away.
Starbucks father was a cylon, the missing one that we never see and is boxed. He is described as being artistic. Kara is the first cylon/human hybrid. How she becomes a ghost? who knows, it's a sci-fi dues ex. but her being special is due to being a cylon hybrid.
I always took it as she was an angel like Head Six and Head Baltar but just that everyone sees her.
I was hoping this bit would be uploaded.
there was actually older video, thats been uploades but not by this channel.
I have to pull my DVDs back out 🤔
They trying to hold people hostage.
Does anyone know which track from the ost is played in the first 2 minutes?
"I know Lee, he'll back down"
Bullshit you don't know anything about Lee if you think he'll back down 😅😂
"Dew it."
you want them alive ? stand down!
Does anyone know the name of the piece of music that plays here?
The chief way of life: Stand there and grin / smirk
I have watch the whole thing again
I feel bad for the guy who was push out the air lock.
Who? No one got pushed out the airlock in this scene
@@jackson7963-MPI Maybe she's thinking of poor Jammer
I'm okay, wish I was better.
So say we all
My bad. Wrong button.
I told them to let em go.
Този сериал просто плачеше за качествени продължения! Уви ,нищо не се случи.
Фрак!!
Why?
I'm here. Lol!
I'm here also ha ha
I've never understood why Kara couldn't just pick up the phone. Ruined the whole scene for me.
I still hate they went the whole magic 5 whatever hidden cylons thing instead of just humans overcoming cylons in the end.
while i think the 5 should been unknown it bugs me a lil while they still overcame them it it was but eh
like it or not religion is part of humanity, it has been for millions of years
Same. I didn't like the convoluted spiritualism and human-cylon aspect of it. Its like they didn't know how to end it and just changed ideas every other episode
Or I was gone respond like that.
I'm here ha ha
I'm here. How is everyone?
Everyone in this show is an evil murderer....
I never understood why everyone keeps talking about how smart and level-headed and morally upstanding Lee is, and here he is prepared to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives despite not having the authority to do so by killing some of his kind of/sort of friends and Saul, who didn't really do anything except tell the truth. I think this level of apathy and selfishness exuded by almost every single character by the end was why this season sucked so hard
Lee's betting on the fact that the Cylons don't want to lose the Final Five since that will mean losing Earth since it's really the only option where everyone could come out alive. If it wasn't for what he did, there'd be no guarantee that the Cylon's wouldn't just nuke the Fleet after they got what they wanted (since they were already willing to do so). After all, D'anna stated that the humans would never forgive them for what the did to the Colonies, meaning destroying them here an now while they had the chance would be the smartest move. It should also be noted that this is on the same level as Adama threatening to nuke the algae planet when the Cylons chose to ignore their agreement and send down Heavy Raiders.
It sucked for the same reason that a house built on a poor foundation falls down.
That music was so distracting
I dont get it at all..I just see humans?Who are the Cylons???
what's with all that constantly shaking camera and random zoom ins and outs? Its unwatchable.
Watching this show more and more I don't think this version of the human race is worth saving, episode after they just behave like ishhh.
So if they toss them out an airlock they just resurrect. Doesn't make sense.
@@firstname9954 Ah so this is post the hub. Ok.
@@cb-gz1vl Not only that, but it makes no sense they printed spare clones of Cylon designs they deemed "unknown"
(Unless there where confidential batches even the cylons couldn't look into)
Even if the Hub was active they would've really died for sure.
@@jonumine6250 Season 4 proved that the Final Five could resurrect thanks to Ellen, though we have no idea whether or not it was standard Resurrection or if it was a one-time custom deal since Cavil was aware of what Ellen was.
the dog's have been weaponized, designer dog - designer diseased
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I always disliked most of the music in the new BSG and I'm glad it didn't become more popular and become a more widely used style. I found it dischordant, often jarring and not suited to the genre.
How did people even watch this with that shakey cam trash direction?
I see no problem, you must be special.
This is a Terrible Show