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Im using HDR and is listed as Displayhdr 1.1, and i think HDR is really amazing, it a hdr 400 but i really can't game without it when its available. It gives so much better experience using HDR
You can turn that off. Searching for ClearType or sub-pixels might help. I don’t know off the top of my head how to do that. If it’s not a setting in Windows you might have to search in your GPU software settings.
@@brucethen Just got my ASUS PG32UCDM (32" QD-OLED 4K) this week and previously owned a 2nd Gen QD-OLED UWQHD (AW3423DWF) and absolutely couldn't work on the old QD-OLED because text was simply unbearable, but I don't find this an Issue at all on my new monitor, I need to get really really close to notice the color fringing at this point, I think the new QD-OLEDs in 4K PPI atleast, are very well suited for looking at text all day. Can't say anything about burn-in risk when using it for work tho, but atleast text is not an issue anymore. The new LG WOLED seems to also be substantially improved because it now uses a RGWB instead of the previous RWBG layout so it's much closer to RGB now, but obviously have no personal experience with that.
I have a gaming hdr 4K monitor, but I don’t use the hdr, I don’t like how it looks and the shift in brightness to dark physically hurts my eyes, it’s like going outside and staring at the sun then the ground and the sun again, I honestly don’t know why anyone wants to see that on a screen.
A lot of people don’t know this about HDR and it might be an immediate turn off for you. If you enjoy the oversatured vibrant look of images. You might actually hate HDR. As it clamps the gamut to something much narrower. On my new ASUS PG27AQDM. That honey stir scene looks like a dim gold vs vibrant gold on my Acer 270hz monitor. However, if you can find workarounds. HDR WITH HIGHER SATURATION LOOKS GODLY! But there’s not a lot of ways to do this so it’s a case by case basis. So don’t buy HDR thinking high dynamic range also includes vibrancy, it just means accuracy.
100% agree. Coming from even a cheap (NZXT) HDR monitor, the difference is that the image is a lot less over saturated, which so far is actually pretty decent. I haven't had any issues with it either in games or using windows day to day, however it shouldn't be a massive selling point on the low end.
@@trevorturkin9411 I’ve found the biggest thing that helps if you REALLY need that extra saturation for a multitude of reasons is turn nvidia digital vibrancy all the way up in nvidia control panel. Then use nvidia freestyle/game filter and then the saturation/vibrancy up even more. That’ll get you over the point of super saturation if you are playing a game with stupidly muted colors. Like it almost looks like the hdr is wrong kind of fix.
Exactly my problem with it. Personally I really like a more vibrant image, I really don't care about color calibration. I mean my monitor came color calibrated and immediately turn on the unclamped color mode anyways. HDR is mainly for those who only like the perfect color calibrated modes as really that's the only place it gains an advantage. Plus I'll also say that if you have a dynamic tone mapping feature on your display, on my Asus PG27UQ it's a mix of "SDR brightness" and "SDR Input", it may look nearly indistinguishable from real HDR. I tried both on many games and some like Returnal and Final Fantasy 7 Remake looks completely indistinguishable, I couldn't notice a single difference. Some games I've also noticed turning on HDR actually limits the entire image's brightness in the act of making the brights brighter than the average, but it looks kinda off. Main one I noticed this is Forza Horizon 4. And Final Fantasy 15 actually crushes the darks more with HDR and there's no way to change the dark levels.
If by accurate you mean colour accurate, that's not really true. You don't need hdr to be accurate. Hdr means a wider dynamic range so bright parts pop more and dark spots are dark at the same time. So in a sense it does make the image more vibrant. Also the colour gamut literally is wider than with sdr content that is designed for srgb only
it is affordable, it amuses me seeing comments about pricing, while the highest end IPS panels are around $3000 while middle spec ranged IPS was $600-$1200 but the complaint is "$1000 for OLED is too much!" the benefit is, it forces the market to stop trying to sell $3000+ monitors and compete against the price point set.
I've picked up a second hand Samsung QLED Flagship TV from 2016 for 250 bucks(New 1700). It's HDR 4k 100hz (even though Hdmi 2.0 limits it to 4k 60) and got like 95% DCI-P3 coverage. Gotta love second hand deals.
Yeah, you just have to get the correct ICC profile downloaded and change a few settings in the nvidia control panel. Once you dial it in though, HDR looks unbelievable especially in games like battlefront 2 and other games.
@@GraphicallyChallenged My panel hasn't got any issues at all guess it depends on luck, But it seems like issues were mostly present at launch and have been fixed since then maybe?
i have an asus monitor with HDR and its absolutely night and day.. HDR as an insane color range compared to standard and makes colors look 100x more rich.
man... I cannot take screenshots with HDR turned on. They washed the colors (only in SS). I looked everywhere and there's apparently no fix for it so I dont understand how someone can use HDR (unless you never take SS)... it's garbage
while HDR is really good, it's a fidelity you'll only feel with 4K+ monitors and 4K gaming is pretty expensive especially for PC gaming. Not only are the good monitors pretty pricey but the requirements spike up as well to the point where even the mid-range flagship GPUs won't be enough. FSR 3 might make a difference, but not to the point where you can play every game on 4K60 HDR10. Seems like in a couple of years that's going to change and 4K gaming will become more affordable but for now, 1440p is the perfect sweet spot of fidelity and performance
@@panda1412. was referring to 1440p overall but yea, an OLED screen does make HDR look a lot better. I still think you won't feel the full extent of what HDR has to offer unless you use a 4K monitor, that's not going to change unless it's low budget and is missing features to use HDR in the first place. Also if you thought I didn't think 1440p looks good, I never stated that and I'll never state that because even 1080p still looks crisp for most games. Actually planning on getting two 1440p monitors soon along with my next upgrade
@@IfritBoi yeah I do agree, 4k is just hard to run ATM but I think oled is by far the best technology and HDR looks the best on it, so I'd prioritise that personally. There's a 21: 9 HDR video featuring Norway on RUclips and it looks INCREDIBLE on my aw34dwf
HDR is great on paper, but the way it is implemented on many screens is awful because the marketing department overdrives the colours in order for you (the potential buyer) to 'see' a difference by making the colours 'pop' . And this is why film producers hate HDR on most TV's because people aren't seeing the movie in the way it was intended to be seen.. instead the TV marketing department is butchering the original work with over bright and over saturated images on screen. But the manufacturer and end retailer knows that the average buyer wouldn't understand what HDR actually is (on paper) so they crank the colours up to crayon like levels so the potential buyer 'sees' a difference and parts with their money.
i have a tv as my monitor for productivity purposes but one game i play automatically enables hdr while it’s active and it looks AWFUL. the saturation is horrible and i don’t know how to increase it.
Sitting here watching the video in 4k on my neo G8, having no issues ....but yes the price , theese days its only the price ! Should you wait ? definatly ! There are only 3 GPU´s that deliver good..>good
If you go with a monitor, definitely shoot for AT LEAST 1000 nits of HDR brightness. I game on a 75" QLED Samsung (Q90R) with 1400 nits of HDR brightness and 480 dimming zones over HDMI 2.1 @ 4K 120HZ HDR and it's freaking stunning with the 4090. You have to have at leat 1000 nits (For Oled at least 600+) otherwise most "HDR" monitors I have seen have been trash.
It totally depends on how close you sit to the monitor/TV/screen. There's a reason why movies in theaters are mixed to a way lower max. peak, than for example a living room TV. The average cinema screen outputs around 50 cd/m², which is way below what a regular TV or monitor outputs. And yet, it is perceived just as bright. Imax can go to 75 cd/m².
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I'm in no rush buying a new display, but a QDOLED (next-next gen ?) 4k 240Hz 34" would be nice (not before 2025, I guess... time to save some money and have some patience!)
About the only game I play is The Division 2, and HDR on the Odessey Neo G8 made it look like a new game. I wish they would update the engine to support ray tracing.
Download game, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Spend 45 minutes in settings menus trying to stop stutter, lag, crashing. Spend 20 more minutes binding keys so you can actually dodge and shoot at the same time... I need to keybind HDR to disable it when I am not in a game???? REEEE!!!! Never!!!
You get much better performance and color accuracy as well as much brighter life-like colors, but he also mentioned in the video that it is hard to go back to SDR after you've used to HDR
I can attest to the lies of HDR. I got an Asus HDR monitor for graphic designer use etc and I put HDR on in windows and the colours were completely crap. It turns out they are giving it false badging since it's only 8 bit and HDR is 10 bit. Be careful because they say they are HDR are there are many out there that really are not HDR.
Actually you may need to lower the frame rate of your display to display 10 bit color. I personally have an Asus PG27UQ which is capable of 144hz, but it's only capable of that with chroma sub sampling. If you want true 8 bit colors you need to pull back to 120hz and if you want 10 bit color it's needs to be 98hz. This is because of limitations of the displayport spec prior to DSC becoming more common. In fact most displays still don't support it. Plus you'll only get 10 bit if the content itself is 10 bit. I've noticed a few games that just tone map in 8 bit and not 10 bit.
@@Skylancer727 I've got the ASUS ProArt Display PA329CV Professional Monitor - 32-inch, IPS, 4K UHD. not for gaming and is only 60 Hz. HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support : HDR10 ? It's only 8bit.
@@highlandermccloud3594 looking up the display it says it is a 10 bit panel (8 bit with FRC, basically the same thing). You sure you have windows set to enable HDR. In Windows 10 you need to go into settings, system, display, and hit the HDR switch. Without this most content will not be in HDR. Some games override this but it's not very common. Windows 11's auto HDR is supposed to fix the issue with going into settings to use HDR, but I can't personally speak on it.
@@Skylancer727 WOW 8 bit with FRC is basically the same thing? A V6 and V8 basically the same thing too? They are not! I turned HDR on in windows when I first set up the monitor and the colours went to shit because it's only 8 bit and not 10 bit. There is a big difference. ASUS are just complete liars!!
@@highlandermccloud3594 8 bit FRC requires a 10 bit signal. If you just display 8 bit video on an 8 bit FRC display, it's just normal 8 bit footage. You at least need it to be 10 bit content in the HDR mode on Windows for it to work. The same is true for a real 10 bit display. There's only a few displays period that are true 10 bit. Just look up how many threads people use literally looking into service menus to figure out which, they are nearly indistinguishable. True 10 bit has ever so slightly more colors, but 8 bit FRC screws with our eyes to make them look similar. Plus the people who say Dolby Vision is better are literally saying they think FRC is good as only mastering displays support true 12 bit color. Hell there's a good chance the display you're using now is FRC and you just didn't know. Hell I saw people even questioning if the LG OLEDs are true 10 bit, I can confirm they are, but the fact the question has to be asked says all. I've seen many reviewers and calibrators say how they can't tell the difference either. Hardware Unboxed reviews monitors and some TVs and has openly shown how even in measurements they're almost indistinguishable. I think you're more conflating the issues with the display as an issue with the HDR implementation. It's only as good as the display itself, the way the display reads meta data, the natural contrast and gamma curve, etc.
ive got the the same monitor.. im finding lights in games are too bright .. like when im using a flashlight in game it is so bright it whites out the image and i cant see anything. and changing the brightness & contrast on the monitor doesnt help. do you have any issues with it being to bright?
I have a monitor with (according to reviews/specs) not very good hdr (m27q, first revision) and honestly it looks better to me when set to hdr. In games, movies and on the desktop. Sure it could be much better, but even as is the picture looks better to me in hdr mode 🤷
The only two issues I have is the screenshot/screen recording thing where most recording software doesn't support hdr properly and produces pictures/recordings with washed out colors and with some combinations of hdr movies/shows and video players the picture ends up very washed out, but after switching to mpv and mpc-be that problem has become basically nonexistant.
Monitors need to become better, oled sux with burn in..ips darks sux, tn colors sux, not sure about the mini leds and such, is there anything promising arround the corner ? HDR sounds good I wasn't aware of these issues though so thanks for making a vid about it.
VA can have really good SDR colors and contrasts, solid blacks and brightness, but the black smearing and ghosting can be horrible. Seems like there just isn't any panel technology atm which can do it all, especially in the budget range. And there are very few monitor models out there without some drawbacks and compromises, unless you go into the absolute high end range. That said, going from a 10 year old IPS 1080p 60Hz panel to a decent 1440p 144Hz+ panel can be a revelation for gamers and is a noticable upgrade in any case, even in the budget range.
@@axelhopfinger533 Every monitor has a flaw, None are perfect unless it's the niche and very expensive professional monitors. OLED's have a flaw, 1,200 dimming zones have a flaw etc etc. But my Neo G8 has been fantastic so far the mini led and va combination with the 1200 dimming zones works well
I've got a C2 and I've tried enabling HDR on a few things but I can't really tell the difference and have decided it's not worth the hassle because almost no game will automatically do it and Windows has no idea what to do with it
I use a hdr grading monitor fer 4k xavci video from a sony pxw-z280 camera ive had zero issues with it its a 1600 nit display zero issues with the local dimming i do get that cheaper monitors have some issues for me there are no issues as yet
I'm sorry but I used to think like that. HDR is just not worth it... until I tried it. Now I can't live without HDR. You don't need to shut off HDR, you just need a toggle. Ctrl+Alt+B will let you switch between HDR modes in win11. It's not that hard.
Meh... I have one of the early HDR FALD displays and to me it's a total gimmick. I guess if you're one of those cinema snobs who think "everything must be color calibrated" it's cool, but just turning on dynamic tone mapping on my display looks completely indistinguishable. I basically never use real HDR as half the time it honestly has less contrast pulling the brights down or the darks up in the name of "accuracy". I say if you're not a fan of running your displays in SDR mode, it may actually be a downgrade. I just wish I could use 10 bit color without HDR in games. I haven't noticed too many games that use it, but I do know that Final Fantasy 15 did have some objects with 10 bit color, most notable being the pink or red chocobo. Still, most games don't really utilize 10 bit color in a noticeable way and my experience is many games look either the same or worse. Forza Horizon 4 for example just compresses the entire image bringing the darks up, brights down, and mutes the colors. Final Fantasy 7 Remake looks nearly identical either way, Returnal also looks about the same, and Final Fantasy 15 becomes unplayable at night as the blacks are crushed yet the brights are lowered ever so slightly. Even worse when some dungeons were already pitch black in SDR. And no, recalibrating doesn't tend to fix these much. FF15's controls only affect brights not darks. Horizon does the same but pushing up the brights makes the brightest spots slightly brighter (while clipping) but the image as a whole stays darker. Still this is far more a hassle than I have with just tone mapping basically, "just working". I say it's a total mixed bag. In general I say if your display has tone mapping, you're probably better off. I know the snobs will still say "but then my SDR content is too bright", yeah so what? Every display prior to HDR did this in the first place. I think some people are also attributing the qualities of new displays to HDR as if HDR is the reason they're capable of that. I will say my display isn't OLED so I don't get great stars in games and videos, but that doesn't really change much about the general HDR experience.
ive been using a "low end" hdr diplay (because it is only vesa hdr 400 certified) since 2018 and even if i dont have a premier top of the line platinum experience vs vesa hdr 1400 or more certified displays in the 2000 $ of my currency , it is still miles ahead of the very bad and poor experience i had before . if you want to know what i had to endure , just check up the lg flattron E2250 , it had very washed up colors , worst than my old tshirt who had around 500 + cleaning cycles , had more light bleed than the vegas strip (i could play minecraft and go look around caverns at night (in the game as even during the day irl i could do the same being night in minecraft) with 0 torches and could spot creepers dozens of blocks away with the default 0 brightness level in game and the monitor basic brightness) and by moments had more imput lag than a dude trying cloud gaming with 200+ms while having enough ghosting that luigi could have made a 15 mins episode about cleaning ghost residue off of "looking devices" . the shit was atrocious . so lets say that even if i bought my monitor brand new in 2018 , that it was not the top of the class back then , and costed me near 600 bucks of my country currency , it wasnt just miles ahead in terms of experience , it was like i was on another fucking continent . so comparing the flattron i mentioned before vs the lg 27uk650-W which is a low end hdr 400 4k monitor , it changed my life . but , i will give you reason for one thing . i never use the hdr mode when not playing . even then , i am not well versed enough to calibrate the hdr settings of most games . so what do i truly use hdr for then ? movies and some games here and there . for example , if i play the division 2 without hdr the game just looks wrong . by wrong i means that the colors are literally washed and the game just dont feel right . when i play with hdr enabled it just fine . same with movies really . wit hdr the movie scenes just look so much better and i can guaranty you that i get my dopamine dose that way . same with playing in 4k really . in this very moment , i cant really play anything modern in 4k because of my old gtx 1080 . soon enough i will have a massive upgrade with a 4080 . the games i played in 4k tho , even insignificant they might seems to the general public (eve online , trial fusion to name just them) , they open my eyes to the joy of 4k and how fucking good it feels to have every little details pop in your eyes . so yes . i will also agree that at this very moment , 4k gaming in big indies or AAA open expansive worlds with a first person or 3rd person camera view is still not as accessible as it once was with lower resolutions getting quickly supplanted by higher ones in terms of raw gpu power . an example of this could be 720p which did not stay long and 1080p stayed there a long time because gpus like the gtx 780 then 980 then 1080 could run it for years on end , yes even to some degree with modern titles . tho you can definitely see that it really aint the same exact case with 1440p and now 4k . a modern mid tier gpu might run simpler "indies" games in 1440p for 2 3 years , but after that it wont keep up . anyway , rambled enough . tldr : got a low end hdr display which wasnt crap or faked its certification , changed my life vs the piece of shit i had before , even tho i cant use it in most games because im not good enough at setting the hdr parameters in many games , use it for movies and some games only , never the desktop . hdr compatibility with screen sharing a very much a thing cause of cant connect to a friend who also has an hdr display when he uses hdr even in desktop mode . dont need to pay for premium HDR 1400 cert at 2000$ to have a decent experience if you have a low expectation .
I have it and it’s a great monitor, and I love the fact that it’s curved, but it has no real HDR on it at all, so if it’s something you care about, then I’d go with a different monitor
i got a cheap 1440p 240hz monitor it was under 300 and windows recognises that it can do HDR, i calibrated it with one of their tool and it looks insane compared to non HDR, idk whatever they are doing, it doesnt seem like just the contrast changing but it somewhat works
Hdr makes games looks so good My laptop has a OLED HDR 1440p 240hz screen and it looks amazing In the future like 2 to 4 years from now im getting a new oled hdr screen
Are you sure it's the HDR and not the fact you now have a fancy display? I think it's like how people point out how cool electric cars are with their fancy features, ignoring the fact most cars have those same features now.
Really considering the S95B it's price has went down hard, but IDK how I feel about the power consumption 😂. But it seems like a life changing experience...
If you do just make sure you are gaming on at least a an Nvidia 3000 or AMD 6000 gpu as they have HDMI 2.1 for high-speed 4k@120hz HDR. I have a Samsung Q90R from 2019 and was stuck at 4k 120hz no HDR OR 4K 60hz HDR with the 2080ti cause it only had HDMI 2.0 which isn't fast enough. Upgraded to a 4090.
I just recently bought a 32 inch GIGABYTE M32UC 4K 144Hz - 160Hz Curved VA panel Monitor. And i wonder if i've made a good choice? 🤔 Because i had a 24 inch 1080p 240Hz TN panel Monitor before that. And i thought i'd move up to 4K and a bigger display size with high refresh rate still. And so far, i've been loving it I prefer to have only one monitor on my desk cause i don't really have space for a second monitor. And i gave my 24 inch monitor to my mother for her PC. So have i made an alright choice??? My PC is with a Ryzen 7950X3D + RX 7900 XTX
If you are loving what you have purchased and it’s working to your expectations. I would say you have made more than just an alright purchase. Have fun with your powerful rig.
@Uncle Joseph Thank you for the kind words. It's the first time in my life when i've finally managed to upgrade to high-end hardware. And it took me a lot of patience and saving up for that. I've been doing the upgrades one part at a time. With the idea to leave the monitor for last. And i finally got to replacing the monitor. I think it only made sense to get a 4K fast refresh monitor for the rig. I could only afford a more " budget friendly " if i can even call it that, 4K monitor. And i really liked what the GIGABYTE M32UC offered. 32 inches, Curved, 4K, 144Hz - 160Hz Overclock, VA panel, 1 - 2 ms response time, great contrast and brightness, KVM Switch, 2x HDMI 2.1 - 24gbps! 1x Display Port 1.4 - 32.4gbps. It's far from ideal. But it looks great to me.
@Uncle Joseph I like to share what kind of experience i've gathered through doing research on things and finally getting them. And it's been a bit of a grind for sure. Because i'm just your average joe. I work a simple job as a driver and am not paid all that great. But because i've grown to be patient, humble, and grateful for everything as much as i can. I like to spend whatever i've saved up more or less on tech, especially on PC hardware. Cause it's been a hobby of mine since i was a kid. And i still can't believe i've managed, by some miracle, to upgrade my rig to this level of hardware for the first time in my life. I've always made compromises on previous upgrades. But this time, i felt like i could manage my savings and income in such a way. That i got the idea that i might actually manage to build a top tier high end PC. Here are the present/current specs on my setup, i like to write them like a nerd, lol 😆 MOBO: GIGABYTE X670E AORUS MASTER rev.1.0 BIOS version F11a 18.05.2023 CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D - at stock Cooler: 420mm AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARGB Video Card: Power Color 7900 XTX Red Devil Limited Edition 24GB RAM: 64GB 2x32 G.SKILL Z5 Neo NON RGB 6000MHz CL32-38-38-96 1.40v AMD EXPO profile Storage: 1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD KINGSTON NV2 1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD Crucial P1 1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD Intel 660P 1x 512GB HDD Samsung is very old Power Supply/ PSU: 1250W 80+ Gold fully modular " Segotep " model " GP1350G " - not a very known brand, but i've had it since 2017, and it's been rock solid PC Case: old ThermalTake Overseer RX-I with 4x 200mm intake case fans and 1x 120mm exhaust Peripherals: Keyboard - HyperX Alloy Origin Aqua Tacticle Mechanical switches Mouse - Razer Mamba Elite Wired Mousepad - SkyPAD 3.0 XL hard glass Monitor - GIGABYTE M32UC Desk - 120cm wide electric motor powered rising/lowering gaming desk with carbon fiber foil cover over MDF surface area
Shrug On LG GX or A1, Samsung Neo and some of the OLED stuff it's fine, it has compromisea with some stuff but I prefer auto HDR on with win11 and to play console games with decent implementations on the living room oled
I love being a peasent. The Asrock PG27FF1A fake HDR monitors I have are awesome for my non-snobbish needs. They have the best color and brightness of all the monitors I have ever owned and not having ever expierenced HDR in my gaming setup, these fit the bill nicely. I know they are a far cry from a $1k OLED, and in a side by side it would be like comparing a 60Hz TN panel from 2005 to an IPS built within the last 3 years, but coming from said TN panel, these monitors are great. I also lucked up and got a set that aren't showing any defects like dead pixels, flickering and whatnot (knocks on wood) hopefully this keeps up until I upgrade into 3 1440p screens, but one thing for sure I am definitely onboard with fake HDR at the least.
i don't get why 1000$ is too expensive, compared to a television it is still cheaper. and where i would say it depend upon how many hours you spend in front of you monitor. i bought myself the Alenware AW3423DW and are fully satisfied. there is a whole other topic you don't bring up, and that is if a monitor support G-Sync ultimate as some monitors will degrade its features as you start to activate gsync+hdr+high refresh. Nvidia has list for those monitors and for getting the full feature set i could only find this monitor
Well, it works like this: most Americans, circa 2023, don't have $500 in cash for emergencies so digging up $1000 means going into credit card debt for LONG TIME.
For me HDR content its amazing for Movies and Shows, but there was not a single game looking better with HDR, also movies that play HDR are maybe 20-30% better looking,
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Do you think it's a good idea to buy an HDR gaming monitor? Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!
If it says "HDR Ready" it's not actual HDR.
If you want to be sure you can check the list of certified monitors with VESA DisplayHDR.
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Im using HDR and is listed as Displayhdr 1.1, and i think HDR is really amazing, it a hdr 400 but i really can't game without it when its available. It gives so much better experience using HDR
I'm just hoping my non-HDR monitor lasts until OLED becomes affordable.
They have this thing called financing at 0% apr lol .. who can't afford 80 a month geeze
@@Charlie-zj3hw what monitor did you buy ?
@@Charlie-zj3hw Wake up! Millions cannot afford 80 per month - including me.
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@@Charlie-zj3hw if you have to go into debt over a monitor, you shouldn’t be buying that monitor
I bought an hdr monitor and my wife left me, don't do it
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The other problem with OLED as a monitor for Windows work is the non standard pixel layout can make text appear blurry
You can turn that off. Searching for ClearType or sub-pixels might help. I don’t know off the top of my head how to do that. If it’s not a setting in Windows you might have to search in your GPU software settings.
@@Deimos94 The problem with clear type is it is designed for the RGB stripe of an LCD, even a BGR stripe LCD causes problems.
@@brucethen Just got my ASUS PG32UCDM (32" QD-OLED 4K) this week and previously owned a 2nd Gen QD-OLED UWQHD (AW3423DWF) and absolutely couldn't work on the old QD-OLED because text was simply unbearable, but I don't find this an Issue at all on my new monitor, I need to get really really close to notice the color fringing at this point, I think the new QD-OLEDs in 4K PPI atleast, are very well suited for looking at text all day. Can't say anything about burn-in risk when using it for work tho, but atleast text is not an issue anymore.
The new LG WOLED seems to also be substantially improved because it now uses a RGWB instead of the previous RWBG layout so it's much closer to RGB now, but obviously have no personal experience with that.
I have a gaming hdr 4K monitor, but I don’t use the hdr, I don’t like how it looks and the shift in brightness to dark physically hurts my eyes, it’s like going outside and staring at the sun then the ground and the sun again, I honestly don’t know why anyone wants to see that on a screen.
Calibrate the HDR then
Have you thought about going to the doctor?
A lot of people don’t know this about HDR and it might be an immediate turn off for you. If you enjoy the oversatured vibrant look of images. You might actually hate HDR. As it clamps the gamut to something much narrower. On my new ASUS PG27AQDM. That honey stir scene looks like a dim gold vs vibrant gold on my Acer 270hz monitor. However, if you can find workarounds. HDR WITH HIGHER SATURATION LOOKS GODLY!
But there’s not a lot of ways to do this so it’s a case by case basis.
So don’t buy HDR thinking high dynamic range also includes vibrancy, it just means accuracy.
100% agree. Coming from even a cheap (NZXT) HDR monitor, the difference is that the image is a lot less over saturated, which so far is actually pretty decent. I haven't had any issues with it either in games or using windows day to day, however it shouldn't be a massive selling point on the low end.
@@trevorturkin9411 I’ve found the biggest thing that helps if you REALLY need that extra saturation for a multitude of reasons is turn nvidia digital vibrancy all the way up in nvidia control panel. Then use nvidia freestyle/game filter and then the saturation/vibrancy up even more. That’ll get you over the point of super saturation if you are playing a game with stupidly muted colors. Like it almost looks like the hdr is wrong kind of fix.
Exactly my problem with it. Personally I really like a more vibrant image, I really don't care about color calibration. I mean my monitor came color calibrated and immediately turn on the unclamped color mode anyways. HDR is mainly for those who only like the perfect color calibrated modes as really that's the only place it gains an advantage.
Plus I'll also say that if you have a dynamic tone mapping feature on your display, on my Asus PG27UQ it's a mix of "SDR brightness" and "SDR Input", it may look nearly indistinguishable from real HDR. I tried both on many games and some like Returnal and Final Fantasy 7 Remake looks completely indistinguishable, I couldn't notice a single difference. Some games I've also noticed turning on HDR actually limits the entire image's brightness in the act of making the brights brighter than the average, but it looks kinda off. Main one I noticed this is Forza Horizon 4. And Final Fantasy 15 actually crushes the darks more with HDR and there's no way to change the dark levels.
If by accurate you mean colour accurate, that's not really true. You don't need hdr to be accurate. Hdr means a wider dynamic range so bright parts pop more and dark spots are dark at the same time. So in a sense it does make the image more vibrant.
Also the colour gamut literally is wider than with sdr content that is designed for srgb only
HDR has lower color saturation, and is darker hood try lying though
I went ultrawide hdr last year and im never going back.
Thanks for the Win+Alt+B shortcut :)
Ive been using Windows since version 3.11 and it has NEVER been a perfect experience.
Bought an HDR 1000 monitor and liked it but not enough to justify the price for HDR. OLED is gonna have to get affordable and its getting there
it is affordable, it amuses me seeing comments about pricing, while the highest end IPS panels are around $3000
while middle spec ranged IPS was $600-$1200 but the complaint is "$1000 for OLED is too much!"
the benefit is, it forces the market to stop trying to sell $3000+ monitors and compete against the price point set.
OLED will never be usable when gaming tho due to burn in
hey, which 1000hdr monitor did u get? i m wondering to get the qzm from agon, or go for some Oled instead...or for a 360 hz...
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@@Nyhtiino worries they can do magick 😂
I've picked up a second hand Samsung QLED Flagship TV from 2016 for 250 bucks(New 1700). It's HDR 4k 100hz (even though Hdmi 2.0 limits it to 4k 60) and got like 95% DCI-P3 coverage. Gotta love second hand deals.
You paid about $250 more than u should have for that old tv
@@garrettstrutz7421 what would you get for 250 quit?
The question is does windows 11 still bad at HDR and is Hdr10+ or Dolby Vision even possible on windows?
Yeah, you just have to get the correct ICC profile downloaded and change a few settings in the nvidia control panel. Once you dial it in though, HDR looks unbelievable especially in games like battlefront 2 and other games.
My lg ultra gear 32’ qhd, has some weird hdr. Sometimes it’s gorgeous and the colors pop, other times the blacks separate a ton more.
Idk man the Neo G8 HDR is fantastic for me with the right settings, Brightness is very good and the colours. Not washed out at all.
yeah my g8 hdr is great too
The G8 has so many issues I absolutely cannot recommend buying it. Only if it’s at least 50% off.
@@GraphicallyChallenged My panel hasn't got any issues at all guess it depends on luck, But it seems like issues were mostly present at launch and have been fixed since then maybe?
@@misterdrez I think at launch there were issues because I haven't got any of the issues others have had. My panel is fantastic with no complaints.
@@Kizzster It’s not luck. They all have scanlines at 240Hz. Every single one. Most have more issues as well.
Windows Snipping Tools and screen sharing is just.. terrible with HDR.
I can secound that. If you try to screen share a HDR screen on teams it literally crashes.
@@kolle128 I was loving to use HDR on my monitor until I had to share my screen, either Discord or Google Meets is just obnoxious.
i have an asus monitor with HDR and its absolutely night and day.. HDR as an insane color range compared to standard and makes colors look 100x more rich.
Yeah, i can put staturation +25% on aswell without OLED. No thanks for that price. Yeah i know i sound dumb, but thats how HDR feelslike to me.
man... I cannot take screenshots with HDR turned on. They washed the colors (only in SS). I looked everywhere and there's apparently no fix for it so I dont understand how someone can use HDR (unless you never take SS)... it's garbage
while HDR is really good, it's a fidelity you'll only feel with 4K+ monitors and 4K gaming is pretty expensive especially for PC gaming. Not only are the good monitors pretty pricey but the requirements spike up as well to the point where even the mid-range flagship GPUs won't be enough. FSR 3 might make a difference, but not to the point where you can play every game on 4K60 HDR10. Seems like in a couple of years that's going to change and 4K gaming will become more affordable but for now, 1440p is the perfect sweet spot of fidelity and performance
dont know what you're talking about.... 1440p hdr oled looks amazing and is cheap af..
@@panda1412. was referring to 1440p overall but yea, an OLED screen does make HDR look a lot better. I still think you won't feel the full extent of what HDR has to offer unless you use a 4K monitor, that's not going to change unless it's low budget and is missing features to use HDR in the first place. Also if you thought I didn't think 1440p looks good, I never stated that and I'll never state that because even 1080p still looks crisp for most games. Actually planning on getting two 1440p monitors soon along with my next upgrade
@@IfritBoi yeah I do agree, 4k is just hard to run ATM but I think oled is by far the best technology and HDR looks the best on it, so I'd prioritise that personally. There's a 21: 9 HDR video featuring Norway on RUclips and it looks INCREDIBLE on my aw34dwf
HDR is great on paper, but the way it is implemented on many screens is awful because the marketing department overdrives the colours in order for you (the potential buyer) to 'see' a difference by making the colours 'pop' .
And this is why film producers hate HDR on most TV's because people aren't seeing the movie in the way it was intended to be seen..
instead the TV marketing department is butchering the original work with over bright and over saturated images on screen.
But the manufacturer and end retailer knows that the average buyer wouldn't understand what HDR actually is (on paper) so they crank the colours up to crayon like levels so the potential buyer 'sees' a difference and parts with their money.
HDR great on monitor. Not on paper
i have a tv as my monitor for productivity purposes but one game i play automatically enables hdr while it’s active and it looks AWFUL. the saturation is horrible and i don’t know how to increase it.
Colors look awful in HDR on OLED monitors in most XBOX and PS5 games I tested before returning the LG 27 OLED I had bought.
So basically, either go full OLED HDR or go home?
Too late…already bought the Samsung Neo G8 😎
hdr is overrated
Sitting here watching the video in 4k on my neo G8, having no issues ....but yes the price , theese days its only the price ! Should you wait ? definatly ! There are only 3 GPU´s that deliver good..>good
I'm happy with my fake HDR QHD monitor for now. I can wait.
If you go with a monitor, definitely shoot for AT LEAST 1000 nits of HDR brightness. I game on a 75" QLED Samsung (Q90R) with 1400 nits of HDR brightness and 480 dimming zones over HDMI 2.1 @ 4K 120HZ HDR and it's freaking stunning with the 4090.
You have to have at leat 1000 nits (For Oled at least 600+) otherwise most "HDR" monitors I have seen have been trash.
Any less than around 1000nits and guaranteed it will be a very bad HDR Monitor unless it’s OLED which can be alright. Ideally 2000+ nits OLED.
@@GraphicallyChallenged Yup agreed.
480 dimming zones, how many pixels in one of those zones? For a true HDR experience you gotta have light emitting pixels, everything else is fake.
It totally depends on how close you sit to the monitor/TV/screen.
There's a reason why movies in theaters are mixed to a way lower max. peak, than for example a living room TV. The average cinema screen outputs around 50 cd/m², which is way below what a regular TV or monitor outputs. And yet, it is perceived just as bright. Imax can go to 75 cd/m².
Have 0 issues with my Samsung Odyssey neo G9
It’s crazyyy
I love it!
Bro you are rich asf
@@atharvaarmy9921 work hard And Let success speak for itself
Materialism means nothing end of the day realistically speaking. Creature comforts at best. We Can’t bring anything into death with us when we pass on. So enjoy it all while u can
Everything is borrowed
Nothing and I mean NOTHING is owned
I'm in no rush buying a new display, but a QDOLED (next-next gen ?) 4k 240Hz 34" would be nice (not before 2025, I guess... time to save some money and have some patience!)
They have them now lol. I just picked up a 27” 1440p 360hz QDOLED
I'm using an HDR monitor for 8 months and I don't care 'cause I'm not a hardcore gamer anymore. I make marble races in Marble World.
Fixed your title for you "don't buy something you can't afford"
About the only game I play is The Division 2, and HDR on the Odessey Neo G8 made it look like a new game. I wish they would update the engine to support ray tracing.
I would rather have a good hdr setting then ray tracing
I dont like HDR in windows, so I dont use it on my QDOLED aw34
Went HDR this Jan 2023. I couldn't ignore a deal.
Which monitor?
@@beaterudolf1362 Aorus FV43U
"Wow, those HDR clips look incredible!" - me watching this video on a 6 year old $130 IPS display.
I hit “checkout” while watching because I already know about HDR annoyances on Windows and I’m ok with it
Download game, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Spend 45 minutes in settings menus trying to stop stutter, lag, crashing. Spend 20 more minutes binding keys so you can actually dodge and shoot at the same time...
I need to keybind HDR to disable it when I am not in a game???? REEEE!!!! Never!!!
we can turn it off anytime we want..
Comparing my ips panel vs my samsung QD oled is HUGE!
If i game with HDR on a LG UltraGear OLED 27GR95QE-B, what do i lose? (refresh rate, input delay, frames ?)
You get much better performance and color accuracy as well as much brighter life-like colors, but he also mentioned in the video that it is hard to go back to SDR after you've used to HDR
I can attest to the lies of HDR. I got an Asus HDR monitor for graphic designer use etc and I put HDR on in windows and the colours were completely crap. It turns out they are giving it false badging since it's only 8 bit and HDR is 10 bit. Be careful because they say they are HDR are there are many out there that really are not HDR.
Actually you may need to lower the frame rate of your display to display 10 bit color. I personally have an Asus PG27UQ which is capable of 144hz, but it's only capable of that with chroma sub sampling. If you want true 8 bit colors you need to pull back to 120hz and if you want 10 bit color it's needs to be 98hz. This is because of limitations of the displayport spec prior to DSC becoming more common. In fact most displays still don't support it.
Plus you'll only get 10 bit if the content itself is 10 bit. I've noticed a few games that just tone map in 8 bit and not 10 bit.
@@Skylancer727 I've got the ASUS ProArt Display PA329CV Professional Monitor - 32-inch, IPS, 4K UHD. not for gaming and is only 60 Hz.
HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support : HDR10 ? It's only 8bit.
@@highlandermccloud3594 looking up the display it says it is a 10 bit panel (8 bit with FRC, basically the same thing). You sure you have windows set to enable HDR. In Windows 10 you need to go into settings, system, display, and hit the HDR switch. Without this most content will not be in HDR. Some games override this but it's not very common. Windows 11's auto HDR is supposed to fix the issue with going into settings to use HDR, but I can't personally speak on it.
@@Skylancer727 WOW 8 bit with FRC is basically the same thing? A V6 and V8 basically the same thing too? They are not!
I turned HDR on in windows when I first set up the monitor and the colours went to shit because it's only 8 bit and not 10 bit. There is a big difference.
ASUS are just complete liars!!
@@highlandermccloud3594 8 bit FRC requires a 10 bit signal. If you just display 8 bit video on an 8 bit FRC display, it's just normal 8 bit footage. You at least need it to be 10 bit content in the HDR mode on Windows for it to work. The same is true for a real 10 bit display.
There's only a few displays period that are true 10 bit. Just look up how many threads people use literally looking into service menus to figure out which, they are nearly indistinguishable. True 10 bit has ever so slightly more colors, but 8 bit FRC screws with our eyes to make them look similar. Plus the people who say Dolby Vision is better are literally saying they think FRC is good as only mastering displays support true 12 bit color. Hell there's a good chance the display you're using now is FRC and you just didn't know. Hell I saw people even questioning if the LG OLEDs are true 10 bit, I can confirm they are, but the fact the question has to be asked says all.
I've seen many reviewers and calibrators say how they can't tell the difference either. Hardware Unboxed reviews monitors and some TVs and has openly shown how even in measurements they're almost indistinguishable. I think you're more conflating the issues with the display as an issue with the HDR implementation. It's only as good as the display itself, the way the display reads meta data, the natural contrast and gamma curve, etc.
I have a LG Ultragear 27GR75Q how is the HDR on that?
ive got the the same monitor.. im finding lights in games are too bright .. like when im using a flashlight in game it is so bright it whites out the image and i cant see anything. and changing the brightness & contrast on the monitor doesnt help.
do you have any issues with it being to bright?
My iPhones Oled screen has ruined my lcd monitor experience.
Watching graphically challenged RUclips videos just don’t look the same.
I have a monitor with (according to reviews/specs) not very good hdr (m27q, first revision) and honestly it looks better to me when set to hdr. In games, movies and on the desktop. Sure it could be much better, but even as is the picture looks better to me in hdr mode 🤷
The only two issues I have is the screenshot/screen recording thing where most recording software doesn't support hdr properly and produces pictures/recordings with washed out colors and with some combinations of hdr movies/shows and video players the picture ends up very washed out, but after switching to mpv and mpc-be that problem has become basically nonexistant.
Monitors need to become better, oled sux with burn in..ips darks sux, tn colors sux, not sure about the mini leds and such, is there anything promising arround the corner ? HDR sounds good I wasn't aware of these issues though so thanks for making a vid about it.
Neo G8 is mini led with real true HDR. On hdmi 2.1 it can be set to 12 bit also.
miniled is a pretty good stop gap before microled.
@@Kizzster Neo G8 has so many issues.
VA can have really good SDR colors and contrasts, solid blacks and brightness, but the black smearing and ghosting can be horrible.
Seems like there just isn't any panel technology atm which can do it all, especially in the budget range. And there are very few monitor models out there without some drawbacks and compromises, unless you go into the absolute high end range.
That said, going from a 10 year old IPS 1080p 60Hz panel to a decent 1440p 144Hz+ panel can be a revelation for gamers and is a noticable upgrade in any case, even in the budget range.
@@axelhopfinger533 Every monitor has a flaw, None are perfect unless it's the niche and very expensive professional monitors. OLED's have a flaw, 1,200 dimming zones have a flaw etc etc. But my Neo G8 has been fantastic so far the mini led and va combination with the 1200 dimming zones works well
Setting HDR in game with a lot of non-sense cursor is a pain
Even worse when it wants you to enable in windows first.
I just ordered a Lenovo Legion 7i 4070 that has an HDR screen.. is it fake HDR?
Exactly why I will be waiting for OLED monitors to come down in prove and windows to catch up with dolby vision.
This video should say “do not try a 1600 nit panel. It will ruin your life!”
I've got a C2 and I've tried enabling HDR on a few things but I can't really tell the difference and have decided it's not worth the hassle because almost no game will automatically do it and Windows has no idea what to do with it
Because contrary to popular opinion, OLED sucks for hdr gaming. Movies and video streaming is a different story.
Auto HDR is now a thing.
I use a hdr grading monitor fer 4k xavci video from a sony pxw-z280 camera ive had zero issues with it its a 1600 nit display zero issues with the local dimming i do get that cheaper monitors have some issues for me there are no issues as yet
I'm sorry but I used to think like that. HDR is just not worth it... until I tried it. Now I can't live without HDR. You don't need to shut off HDR, you just need a toggle. Ctrl+Alt+B will let you switch between HDR modes in win11. It's not that hard.
i really wanna buy an oled gamign monitor , but theres no 4k oled 240 hz yet like 27 inches
Bought the Asus Rog Swift 27 OLED Yesterday - god damed, it's freaking awesome 😍
Meh... I have one of the early HDR FALD displays and to me it's a total gimmick. I guess if you're one of those cinema snobs who think "everything must be color calibrated" it's cool, but just turning on dynamic tone mapping on my display looks completely indistinguishable. I basically never use real HDR as half the time it honestly has less contrast pulling the brights down or the darks up in the name of "accuracy". I say if you're not a fan of running your displays in SDR mode, it may actually be a downgrade.
I just wish I could use 10 bit color without HDR in games. I haven't noticed too many games that use it, but I do know that Final Fantasy 15 did have some objects with 10 bit color, most notable being the pink or red chocobo. Still, most games don't really utilize 10 bit color in a noticeable way and my experience is many games look either the same or worse. Forza Horizon 4 for example just compresses the entire image bringing the darks up, brights down, and mutes the colors. Final Fantasy 7 Remake looks nearly identical either way, Returnal also looks about the same, and Final Fantasy 15 becomes unplayable at night as the blacks are crushed yet the brights are lowered ever so slightly. Even worse when some dungeons were already pitch black in SDR.
And no, recalibrating doesn't tend to fix these much. FF15's controls only affect brights not darks. Horizon does the same but pushing up the brights makes the brightest spots slightly brighter (while clipping) but the image as a whole stays darker. Still this is far more a hassle than I have with just tone mapping basically, "just working".
I say it's a total mixed bag. In general I say if your display has tone mapping, you're probably better off. I know the snobs will still say "but then my SDR content is too bright", yeah so what? Every display prior to HDR did this in the first place. I think some people are also attributing the qualities of new displays to HDR as if HDR is the reason they're capable of that. I will say my display isn't OLED so I don't get great stars in games and videos, but that doesn't really change much about the general HDR experience.
I like your videos a lot but this title is just straight up clickbait
Is the BenQ Mobiuz Ex2510 display real HDR ?
ive been using a "low end" hdr diplay (because it is only vesa hdr 400 certified) since 2018 and even if i dont have a premier top of the line platinum experience vs vesa hdr 1400 or more certified displays in the 2000 $ of my currency , it is still miles ahead of the very bad and poor experience i had before . if you want to know what i had to endure , just check up the lg flattron E2250 , it had very washed up colors , worst than my old tshirt who had around 500 + cleaning cycles , had more light bleed than the vegas strip (i could play minecraft and go look around caverns at night (in the game as even during the day irl i could do the same being night in minecraft) with 0 torches and could spot creepers dozens of blocks away with the default 0 brightness level in game and the monitor basic brightness) and by moments had more imput lag than a dude trying cloud gaming with 200+ms while having enough ghosting that luigi could have made a 15 mins episode about cleaning ghost residue off of "looking devices" . the shit was atrocious . so lets say that even if i bought my monitor brand new in 2018 , that it was not the top of the class back then , and costed me near 600 bucks of my country currency , it wasnt just miles ahead in terms of experience , it was like i was on another fucking continent . so comparing the flattron i mentioned before vs the lg 27uk650-W which is a low end hdr 400 4k monitor , it changed my life . but , i will give you reason for one thing . i never use the hdr mode when not playing . even then , i am not well versed enough to calibrate the hdr settings of most games . so what do i truly use hdr for then ? movies and some games here and there . for example , if i play the division 2 without hdr the game just looks wrong . by wrong i means that the colors are literally washed and the game just dont feel right . when i play with hdr enabled it just fine . same with movies really . wit hdr the movie scenes just look so much better and i can guaranty you that i get my dopamine dose that way . same with playing in 4k really . in this very moment , i cant really play anything modern in 4k because of my old gtx 1080 . soon enough i will have a massive upgrade with a 4080 . the games i played in 4k tho , even insignificant they might seems to the general public (eve online , trial fusion to name just them) , they open my eyes to the joy of 4k and how fucking good it feels to have every little details pop in your eyes . so yes . i will also agree that at this very moment , 4k gaming in big indies or AAA open expansive worlds with a first person or 3rd person camera view is still not as accessible as it once was with lower resolutions getting quickly supplanted by higher ones in terms of raw gpu power . an example of this could be 720p which did not stay long and 1080p stayed there a long time because gpus like the gtx 780 then 980 then 1080 could run it for years on end , yes even to some degree with modern titles . tho you can definitely see that it really aint the same exact case with 1440p and now 4k . a modern mid tier gpu might run simpler "indies" games in 1440p for 2 3 years , but after that it wont keep up .
anyway , rambled enough .
tldr : got a low end hdr display which wasnt crap or faked its certification , changed my life vs the piece of shit i had before , even tho i cant use it in most games because im not good enough at setting the hdr parameters in many games , use it for movies and some games only , never the desktop . hdr compatibility with screen sharing a very much a thing cause of cant connect to a friend who also has an hdr display when he uses hdr even in desktop mode . dont need to pay for premium HDR 1400 cert at 2000$ to have a decent experience if you have a low expectation .
Should I go for Samsung Odyssey g7 1440p 240hz 27 inch one
I have it and it’s a great monitor, and I love the fact that it’s curved, but it has no real HDR on it at all, so if it’s something you care about, then I’d go with a different monitor
@@alexenderman6925 never before used hdr display so idk if its a deal breaker
If yer sharing on platforms like twitch of course there will be issues those platforms do not support 4k sdr never mind hdr RUclips however does
i got a cheap 1440p 240hz monitor it was under 300 and windows recognises that it can do HDR, i calibrated it with one of their tool and it looks insane compared to non HDR, idk whatever they are doing, it doesnt seem like just the contrast changing but it somewhat works
What monitor do you have?
@@kwersten8537 the KOORUI GNO5
@@wilihey1425 Trolls will be trolls
@@kwersten8537 koorui gn05
@@DETERMINOLOGY ye i made all of that up to bait absolutely no one and not even make it funny
Hdr makes games looks so good
My laptop has a OLED HDR 1440p 240hz screen and it looks amazing
In the future like 2 to 4 years from now im getting a new oled hdr screen
Are you sure it's the HDR and not the fact you now have a fancy display? I think it's like how people point out how cool electric cars are with their fancy features, ignoring the fact most cars have those same features now.
I have a Samsung G9 LCD and the HDR looks horrible.
I bought a cheap HDR monitor and didn't ruin my life.
Really considering the S95B it's price has went down hard, but IDK how I feel about the power consumption 😂. But it seems like a life changing experience...
DO IT !! I got the 55" S95B for 1150 .. we also just got the S90C in 77" .. amazing tvs
It’s miles better than the C2 if that’s what your wondering, but it requires a lot of adjustments to look accurate.
If you do just make sure you are gaming on at least a an Nvidia 3000 or AMD 6000 gpu as they have HDMI 2.1 for high-speed 4k@120hz HDR. I have a Samsung Q90R from 2019 and was stuck at 4k 120hz no HDR OR 4K 60hz HDR with the 2080ti cause it only had HDMI 2.0 which isn't fast enough. Upgraded to a 4090.
Have to admit i have a coolermaster gp27q and its incredible if i am honest!
gonna buy the asus monitor anyway because free return and money back deal if I buy from best buy within 30 days
I mean why my 1440p look like shit if i disable it ? It dont event meet the spec whit 400 nit only. I its off its look blurry LOL
I just recently bought a 32 inch GIGABYTE M32UC 4K 144Hz - 160Hz Curved VA panel Monitor.
And i wonder if i've made a good choice? 🤔
Because i had a 24 inch 1080p 240Hz TN panel Monitor before that.
And i thought i'd move up to 4K and a bigger display size with high refresh rate still.
And so far, i've been loving it
I prefer to have only one monitor on my desk cause i don't really have space for a second monitor. And i gave my 24 inch monitor to my mother for her PC.
So have i made an alright choice???
My PC is with a Ryzen 7950X3D + RX 7900 XTX
If you are loving what you have purchased and it’s working to your expectations. I would say you have made more than just an alright purchase. Have fun with your powerful rig.
@Uncle Joseph Thank you for the kind words.
It's the first time in my life when i've finally managed to upgrade to high-end hardware.
And it took me a lot of patience and saving up for that.
I've been doing the upgrades one part at a time.
With the idea to leave the monitor for last.
And i finally got to replacing the monitor.
I think it only made sense to get a 4K fast refresh monitor for the rig.
I could only afford a more " budget friendly " if i can even call it that, 4K monitor.
And i really liked what the GIGABYTE M32UC offered.
32 inches, Curved, 4K, 144Hz - 160Hz Overclock, VA panel, 1 - 2 ms response time, great contrast and brightness, KVM Switch, 2x HDMI 2.1 - 24gbps! 1x Display Port 1.4 - 32.4gbps.
It's far from ideal. But it looks great to me.
I believe you made an excellent choice. Rock on dude...
@@Gielderst My pleasure. I respect the grind and the time you put into choosing what works best for you.
@Uncle Joseph I like to share what kind of experience i've gathered through doing research on things and finally getting them.
And it's been a bit of a grind for sure.
Because i'm just your average joe.
I work a simple job as a driver and am not paid all that great. But because i've grown to be patient, humble, and grateful for everything as much as i can. I like to spend whatever i've saved up more or less on tech, especially on PC hardware. Cause it's been a hobby of mine since i was a kid.
And i still can't believe i've managed, by some miracle, to upgrade my rig to this level of hardware for the first time in my life.
I've always made compromises on previous upgrades. But this time, i felt like i could manage my savings and income in such a way. That i got the idea that i might actually manage to build a top tier high end PC.
Here are the present/current specs on my setup, i like to write them like a nerd, lol 😆
MOBO: GIGABYTE X670E AORUS MASTER rev.1.0 BIOS version F11a 18.05.2023
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D - at stock
Cooler: 420mm AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 ARGB
Video Card: Power Color 7900 XTX Red Devil Limited Edition 24GB
RAM: 64GB 2x32 G.SKILL Z5 Neo NON RGB 6000MHz CL32-38-38-96 1.40v AMD EXPO profile
Storage: 1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD KINGSTON NV2
1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD Crucial P1
1x 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD Intel 660P
1x 512GB HDD Samsung is very old
Power Supply/ PSU: 1250W 80+ Gold fully modular " Segotep " model " GP1350G " - not a very known brand, but i've had it since 2017, and it's been rock solid
PC Case: old ThermalTake Overseer RX-I with 4x 200mm intake case fans and 1x 120mm exhaust
Peripherals:
Keyboard - HyperX Alloy Origin Aqua Tacticle Mechanical switches
Mouse - Razer Mamba Elite Wired
Mousepad - SkyPAD 3.0 XL hard glass
Monitor - GIGABYTE M32UC
Desk - 120cm wide electric motor powered rising/lowering gaming desk with carbon fiber foil cover over MDF surface area
still waiting for new monitors with DP2.0 port
not needed DSC exists
Shrug
On LG GX or A1, Samsung Neo and some of the OLED stuff it's fine, it has compromisea with some stuff but I prefer auto HDR on with win11 and to play console games with decent implementations on the living room oled
You're spending a thousand bucks on a GPU, so why not spend a thousand bucks on an HDR monitor?
i got the neo g7 ive been creamin for months
Lol you can get 42 and 48ninch lg oleds for 700 bucks if you know how to shop. I got mine for 699.
Based on what you say, not worth it.
I think HDR looks like crap… I have a mini led monitor with 1,100 nit and the game looks like a blurred mess with HDR on
Windows HDR looks bad. I use a neo G7 and im looking to get a series X soon to take full advantage of HDR and the monitor.
HDR made me throw away all our LCD TVs this year .. I spent over 5k upgrading everything to OLED
xD i can turn it off on my Monitor ?!?!?
Oh noes it's back !!!
I love being a peasent. The Asrock PG27FF1A fake HDR monitors I have are awesome for my non-snobbish needs. They have the best color and brightness of all the monitors I have ever owned and not having ever expierenced HDR in my gaming setup, these fit the bill nicely. I know they are a far cry from a $1k OLED, and in a side by side it would be like comparing a 60Hz TN panel from 2005 to an IPS built within the last 3 years, but coming from said TN panel, these monitors are great.
I also lucked up and got a set that aren't showing any defects like dead pixels, flickering and whatnot (knocks on wood) hopefully this keeps up until I upgrade into 3 1440p screens, but one thing for sure I am definitely onboard with fake HDR at the least.
i don't get why 1000$ is too expensive, compared to a television it is still cheaper. and where i would say it depend upon how many hours you spend in front of you monitor. i bought myself the Alenware AW3423DW and are fully satisfied. there is a whole other topic you don't bring up, and that is if a monitor support G-Sync ultimate as some monitors will degrade its features as you start to activate gsync+hdr+high refresh. Nvidia has list for those monitors and for getting the full feature set i could only find this monitor
Well, it works like this: most Americans, circa 2023, don't have $500 in cash for emergencies so digging up $1000 means going into credit card debt for LONG TIME.
dislike for overacting
Fake HDR =HDRnt
For me HDR content its amazing for Movies and Shows, but there was not a single game looking better with HDR, also movies that play HDR are maybe 20-30% better looking,
fuck me dude those intros are so damn weird but not weird like LTT or anything , idk it makes me feel uncomfortable , good content though !
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