Tip: Play Gm-Pentatonics over Cm7 and Fm-Pentatonics over Ebm7.. it gives you a nice sound character for each chord and the change in pentatonics isnt linear to the chord changes which makes it even more interesting. :-) nice backing track btw!
Instead of thinking Bflatwhatever or Aflatwhatever why not thinking all in the key of C? I'ts more simple IMHO. So, in this case min7 modal (not in a tonal progression like these two) chords "call" for a dorian sound, so for me C Dorian over Cmin7 and C locrian (which is Eb dorian) over Ebmin7 is the right sound for this progression. Aeolian for both as suggested below is simply not working well, b6 clashes with the min7 sound, which ALONE (as in a modal vamp) requires a dorian sound exactly like a maj7 chord ALONE requires a lydian (and not Ionian) sound. Then of course, you can experiment with other dorians taken form the melodic or harmonic minor, like the Dorian #4, to add a little "outside" flavour to your solo. Great Track anyway!
Hi ! Thinking a mode with the root of the chord (C dorian, Eb dorian) is to me the best way for this long lasting chords, because the sound of a note is directly linked to its function (the 6M sounds dissonant etc...).
Sure! It's another useful way of approaching it. I was referring to other comments I read about playing Bb whatever or Ab whatever which complicates your life a little too much in my opinion. Of course when I see a modal progression with two min7 chords I think of dorian for both, I was just saying that if one would play "in position" so to say (around the 8th fret for instance) , maybe referring all to the first chord fundamental could be handy, but you'd have to know that C locrian is Eb Dorian so maybe it is a concept a bit advanced. Great track to study and practice modal interchange nonetheless!
Good call, Bb Mixo to Ab Dorian sounds sweet. You can also just aim for C Aeolian and then to the Ab Dorian. Just a different kinda pull from the Ebm7, when you think of C as tonic vs Bb. Both are shweet
Hey, these sound sweet! Thanks for the tip. I'm new to modes. If you have time could you explain how you decided on these modes? No worries if not though!
+Randal Clarke Since "Jazz" is more what you improvise on this, someone who don't see how this could be Jazz could make a porno soundtrack with any backing track of Charlie P. or even Coltrane .. And it's just about training, guy
C dorian (or natural minor) for Cm7, C locrian (or phyrgian) for Ebm7.
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Awesome. This is the best practice for m7 arpeggios
for everything i would say
Thank you for posting these backing tracks, they are a major help with practice!
Tip: Play Gm-Pentatonics over Cm7 and Fm-Pentatonics over Ebm7.. it gives you a nice sound character for each chord and the change in pentatonics isnt linear to the chord changes which makes it even more interesting. :-) nice backing track btw!
Good tip. Playing the V of a minor chord always provides beautiful contrast
I first encountered this sound listening to Jimi play Pali Gap
THIS IS EPIC
I was switching between Dorian b2 (Melodic Minor Mode no.2) and Dorian #4 (Harmonic Minor Mode no.4) for this one. Thanks!
Pro tip...here's 4 good notes for the change over.. Eb F Bb Eb...
Great track, do you have any more modal tracks?
G aeolian (C dorian) - A# aeolian (Eb dorian)
Yes
Nice one thank you!
Cm7 - Natural/Harmonic Minor (focusing on C and Eb)
Ebm7 - Melodic Minor (focusing on D and Eb)
Instead of thinking Bflatwhatever or Aflatwhatever why not thinking all in the key of C?
I'ts more simple IMHO.
So, in this case min7 modal (not in a tonal progression like these two) chords "call" for a dorian sound, so for me C Dorian over Cmin7 and C locrian (which is Eb dorian) over Ebmin7 is the right sound for this progression.
Aeolian for both as suggested below is simply not working well, b6 clashes with the min7 sound, which ALONE (as in a modal vamp) requires a dorian sound exactly like a maj7 chord ALONE requires a lydian (and not Ionian) sound.
Then of course, you can experiment with other dorians taken form the melodic or harmonic minor, like the Dorian #4, to add a little "outside" flavour to your solo.
Great Track anyway!
Hi ! Thinking a mode with the root of the chord (C dorian, Eb dorian) is to me the best way for this long lasting chords, because the sound of a note is directly linked to its function (the 6M sounds dissonant etc...).
Sure! It's another useful way of approaching it. I was referring to other comments I read about playing Bb whatever or Ab whatever which complicates your life a little too much in my opinion.
Of course when I see a modal progression with two min7 chords I think of dorian for both, I was just saying that if one would play "in position" so to say (around the 8th fret for instance) , maybe referring all to the first chord fundamental could be handy, but you'd have to know that C locrian is Eb Dorian so maybe it is a concept a bit advanced.
Great track to study and practice modal interchange nonetheless!
Thank you so much for the explanation really appreciated !!!
What are the chord changes on bars 3 and 7?
I personally recommend B flat mixolydian for the Cmin7, and A flat dorian for the Emin7, so flavoursome mmmmmm
oh, i just can't do mixolydian, it starts sounding too minor on this for me- gotta have that major 6 from the C dorian.
Good call, Bb Mixo to Ab Dorian sounds sweet.
You can also just aim for C Aeolian and then to the Ab Dorian. Just a different kinda pull from the Ebm7, when you think of C as tonic vs Bb. Both are shweet
Hey, these sound sweet! Thanks for the tip. I'm new to modes. If you have time could you explain how you decided on these modes? No worries if not though!
See my channel I'll set you straight. :)
Modes are sooo easy, but just tricky, which makes them hard to explain.
very good
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C frigio/eolio e Eb dorico
io personalmente preferisco Frigio per il Cmin7 e Dorico per il Ebmin7
Interesting!
C Dorian over the Cm7
Eb Dorian (C Phyrgian) over the Ebm7
looking for a backtrack for MY FAVOURITE THINGS... SWING/MODAL.. But the solo section only over Em...
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thanks for making... recorded a track with this check it out on my youtube channel
if this is what they call "Jazz" these days, i want out... sounds like Porno soundtracks to me
Randal Clarke what a dumb perspective to have
+Randal Clarke Since "Jazz" is more what you improvise on this, someone who don't see how this could be Jazz could make a porno soundtrack with any backing track of Charlie P. or even Coltrane ..
And it's just about training, guy
LOL call it what you like! Genres are for record stores.