Ironically I appreciated learning the origin of the word "tabiya" even more than the en passant discussion. That's so interesting that they would just start from known positions in order to avoid wasting time in the opening, I feel like it would be an interesting addition to real chess if we had games start in a certain position to avoid theory
chess 15.77 patch note We see that the rule introduced a few patches ago where pawns can move 2 spaces instead one has created a situation where pawns on 2 adjacent files could just walk a pass each other without ever interacting, so we now add a new rule called en passant.
Never actually thought about the possibility of en passant becoming illegal like in that first example of yours - there is always more to any little detail in this crazy game xD
4:50 being an Indian and a player of Chaturanga myself I would like to make a very humble correction that the queen or ferz could move only 1 square diagonally. So it is even weaker than the king.
Most of the hypermodern openings(KID,QID, nimzo indian defense, dzinzi indian , bogo indian, etc) are called Indian defense for a reason. In Indian version of chess pawns moved one square. So the quickest way to mobilise your army is to control the centre with your pieces and not pawns.
@@RobBCactive in this video you can see bishops are developed go a3 h3 and control one square near the centre. Also I believe there are other rules of ancient chess. the ones played in India (indian rules) enables the bishop to move just like in standard chess
Very fun video. It's interesting that all game these days have balance issues. Or are constantly requiring updates etc. But chess came as close as you can to perfecting balance while maintaining depth
coach..... as always... you have the gift of explaining chess pedagogy in such an exciting and fun manner.. that makes it a pleasure to follow your videos... than you
The rule shown in the video is probably one of the oldest rules. It was called Chaturanga. There have been a lot of modifications(or other local rules). The one which I played in childhood is (i am indian ) pieces move exactly the same way as in normal rule. But the pawns go one square. The position of king and queen in opening is different. Promotion rules are different. For only the 1st move both white and black makes 2moves at a time.
Not that many new information for me (except for that cute problems, of course), but this video is still a great pleasure to watch due to your huge enthusiasm! One cannot really stay indifferent to it. :) Thanks for doing what you do and wish you all the best!
excelent! can you make one similar video about castle rule? - is a weird situation (I think in puzzle) when 3 fold repetition draw is more complicated. Sorry for my english
The Arab golden age was actually the remnants of the Greek Byzantines whom they conquered that converted and stayed a few generations until religious zealotry drove most of the educated back into Europe, the knowledge they supposedly "gave us" was already ours to begin with
As someone who's from india and has been Keen follower of Chaturanga since childhood, I'm happy to someone actually accepting the fact that it came from india. My fellow Europeans and Americans have hard time accepting Shatranj (Arabic Chess) is 2nd variant developed from Chaturanga (Indian Chess). Interesting story, Mir Sultan Khan didn't know chess before sure but he was brilliant player of Chaturanga, those who played Chaturanga in childhood had deep sense of understanding how knights move. Eventually turning out to be great player later on when taken as slave to Britain. My grandfather served 20 years in Dubai jail where he learnt Chaturanga and Shatranj mainly and taught me all this and importance of reserving knights in Chaturanga. ~mod of sassy (darknessisfriend)
En Passant, En Passant Hee hee hee, Hon hon hon! With my pawn I can capture yours too You push out two squares But I take it from there! God, I love En Passant, don't you?
Great chess video ! Super interesting thanks ! video on castling history and curiosities perhaps !? Castling in chess 960 is interesting too. I was learning some new tricks there . awesome chess channel Thanks
Hi Andras, I'm sorry I can't understand the solution you're giving for the puzzle around 12 minutes into the video. You're giving 1.e4 but I don't see why 1.c4 is not a faster checkmate. Can you help me plz ? I just see 1.c4 dxc3 2.d4# Thanks for this amazing video anyway, "I don't hate you" :)
I don’t understand why the white king has anything to do with this? I’m new to chess so I don’t see why their solution would be different if the white king is on b8 instead of c8
Really great video! I can't place your accent, you sound like a European who has emigrated to Australia. I went down a Wikipedia rabbit hole and found almost infinite ancient version of chess as well as other international variants
Should be a 30sec video... before it games lasted longer so they wanted to shorten them by allowing pawns to move 2 square instead of one on first pawn moves.. this can shorten the game by up to 8 moves...but they did not want to change the game so they came up with capture by passing or french word for that..
11:00 this paradox can be easily resolved if we allow the kings to be captured in order to end the game. So when I go en passant, both kings are exposed to checks, but it is WHITE to move, so the black king gets CAPTURED first. And if the black king is gone, who is going to order the army to capture the white one, right? Think about it in a real battlefield situation.
Instructive, but a couple of small errors. Chess is not 4000-5000 years old, but closer to 1500. Chess was introduced to Europe via Arabic conquests, but not during the initial invasion. It seems likely that it was introduced in the early ninth century. Then when you get to the crux of the matter, you speculate. That’s too bad because there is a very good book that answers the question in some detail. Peter J. Monté, The Classical Era of Modern Chess (2014).
The thumbnail is the greatest thing I've ever seen
Yea my artist thinks it’s a ticket to anarchychess 😉
on some real shit
Wow! Not only educational but also fun. This channel is simply da BEST. Keep up the awesome work, Andras :)
Ironically I appreciated learning the origin of the word "tabiya" even more than the en passant discussion. That's so interesting that they would just start from known positions in order to avoid wasting time in the opening, I feel like it would be an interesting addition to real chess if we had games start in a certain position to avoid theory
Well, as for theory avoidance, we do have 960.
For advanced players, yes
chess 15.77 patch note
We see that the rule introduced a few patches ago where pawns can move 2 spaces instead one has created a situation where pawns on 2 adjacent files could just walk a pass each other without ever interacting, so we now add a new rule called en passant.
Never actually thought about the possibility of en passant becoming illegal like in that first example of yours - there is always more to any little detail in this crazy game xD
4:50 being an Indian and a player of Chaturanga myself I would like to make a very humble correction that the queen or ferz could move only 1 square diagonally. So it is even weaker than the king.
I have read that about early chess too, it's a curiosity that the Q became the most powerful piece.
@@RobBCactive yeah early "gender equality" movement lol!
Most of the hypermodern openings(KID,QID, nimzo indian defense, dzinzi indian , bogo indian, etc) are called Indian defense for a reason. In Indian version of chess pawns moved one square. So the quickest way to mobilise your army is to control the centre with your pieces and not pawns.
How would limited range bishops control the centre from the flanks?
@@RobBCactive in this video you can see bishops are developed go a3 h3 and control one square near the centre.
Also I believe there are other rules of ancient chess. the ones played in India (indian rules) enables the bishop to move just like in standard chess
Holy hell
Very fun video. It's interesting that all game these days have balance issues. Or are constantly requiring updates etc. But chess came as close as you can to perfecting balance while maintaining depth
This is awesome !
So different from just tactics, openings and games !
I really like a bit of history, thanks Andras !
Pimy
coach..... as always... you have the gift of explaining chess pedagogy in such an exciting and fun manner.. that makes it a pleasure to follow your videos... than you
Thanks a lot! Glad you like the content!
The rule shown in the video is probably one of the oldest rules. It was called Chaturanga. There have been a lot of modifications(or other local rules). The one which I played in childhood is (i am indian ) pieces move exactly the same way as in normal rule. But the pawns go one square. The position of king and queen in opening is different. Promotion rules are different. For only the 1st move both white and black makes 2moves at a time.
Wow! So turns out my father was used to play Indian chess rules, which I was a bit confused with
I have been wondering this for years, thank you so much for taking the time to make this legendary video
Loved learning about this aspect of history of chess from you. Im hoping you consider doing more like this topic, very interesting.
Interesting history, and neat puzzles. I never really thought about how en passant can expose the king to check and therefore be illegal.
Not that many new information for me (except for that cute problems, of course), but this video is still a great pleasure to watch due to your huge enthusiasm! One cannot really stay indifferent to it. :) Thanks for doing what you do and wish you all the best!
excelent! can you make one similar video about castle rule? - is a weird situation (I think in puzzle) when 3 fold repetition draw is more complicated.
Sorry for my english
Holy Hell!
The Arab golden age was actually the remnants of the Greek Byzantines whom they conquered that converted and stayed a few generations until religious zealotry drove most of the educated back into Europe, the knowledge they supposedly "gave us" was already ours to begin with
Exactly what I was looking for and more.
As someone who's from india and has been Keen follower of Chaturanga since childhood, I'm happy to someone actually accepting the fact that it came from india. My fellow Europeans and Americans have hard time accepting Shatranj (Arabic Chess) is 2nd variant developed from Chaturanga (Indian Chess). Interesting story, Mir Sultan Khan didn't know chess before sure but he was brilliant player of Chaturanga, those who played Chaturanga in childhood had deep sense of understanding how knights move. Eventually turning out to be great player later on when taken as slave to Britain. My grandfather served 20 years in Dubai jail where he learnt Chaturanga and Shatranj mainly and taught me all this and importance of reserving knights in Chaturanga.
~mod of sassy (darknessisfriend)
I am definitely one of those who believe that chaturanga is the predecessor of chess
Slavery in Britain in the 20th Century? That would be surprising.
En Passant, En Passant
Hee hee hee, Hon hon hon!
With my pawn I can capture yours too
You push out two squares
But I take it from there!
God, I love En Passant, don't you?
Where did my pawn go? Holy Hell !!
Thanks for the informative video.
Great chess video ! Super interesting thanks ! video on castling history and curiosities perhaps !? Castling in chess 960 is interesting too. I was learning some new tricks there . awesome chess channel Thanks
Great video as always, but what is the difference between a “puzzle” and a “problem” at 9:44?
Andras has made a video about exactly this: ruclips.net/video/Evo0t3sIo6U/видео.html
@@robwatson1617 tnx
Best of best lesson
Came for the rule. Stayed for the history lesson
Glad you stayed!:)
Interesting story :)
Amazing, thanks.
Hi Andras, I'm sorry I can't understand the solution you're giving for the puzzle around 12 minutes into the video. You're giving 1.e4 but I don't see why 1.c4 is not a faster checkmate. Can you help me plz ?
I just see 1.c4 dxc3 2.d4#
Thanks for this amazing video anyway, "I don't hate you" :)
It is. I set up the puzzle incorrectly, the White king is meant to be on b8. :(
I don’t understand why the white king has anything to do with this? I’m new to chess so I don’t see why their solution would be different if the white king is on b8 instead of c8
Really great video! I can't place your accent, you sound like a European who has emigrated to Australia. I went down a Wikipedia rabbit hole and found almost infinite ancient version of chess as well as other international variants
Cool video!
Should be a 30sec video... before it games lasted longer so they wanted to shorten them by allowing pawns to move 2 square instead of one on first pawn moves.. this can shorten the game by up to 8 moves...but they did not want to change the game so they came up with capture by passing or french word for that..
Every time I use this move they thought I was making up rules
11:00 this paradox can be easily resolved if we allow the kings to be captured in order to end the game. So when I go en passant, both kings are exposed to checks, but it is WHITE to move, so the black king gets CAPTURED first. And if the black king is gone, who is going to order the army to capture the white one, right? Think about it in a real battlefield situation.
great video!
great video
Hello chicas and chicos!
Instructive, but a couple of small errors. Chess is not 4000-5000 years old, but closer to 1500. Chess was introduced to Europe via Arabic conquests, but not during the initial invasion. It seems likely that it was introduced in the early ninth century. Then when you get to the crux of the matter, you speculate. That’s too bad because there is a very good book that answers the question in some detail. Peter J. Monté, The Classical Era of Modern Chess (2014).
Nice
this move should be banned. it didn't enter the rule books till 1880 and it was made to make the game easier for shitty players.
Holy hell
did you google en passant?