Is Being Fat A Choice? Fit Men vs Fat Men | xQc Reacts
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aint no way xQc laughed at that dude when xQc lives off of Coke and McDonalds and is built like Sudowoodo
Sudowoodo is foul lmao
He eats that and drinks coke but still looks like a stick
Well, as far as I remember he eats poorly but in small amounts so he is not healthy but still lean
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@@leisiyox he only eats ''1 meal'' a day.
@@leisiyoxconsidering his height he's probably at 1600-1700 calories a day if that.... Whereas a fat person will easily gulp down 3000+ a day.
X and Jesse are literally the Godskin Duo
AHAHAHAHA SO TRUEEEE
godskin duo is crazy 💀
Orstein and Smough type beat
@@tugitbrothers3699dont compare the goats to the likes of garbage bosses like godskin duo
lmaooooo
Jubilee knew what they were doing when they invited the dude from the Fresh and Fit podcast on this episode. Content farming at its best
Also the guys in the video later came out and said they were ambushed and were not told anything about the setup and who was going to be there. They thought it was going to be a regular conversation with “normal people” not influencers who are open about hating fat people.
@@eavocado5890pppj well that's great, had a nice watch
@@eavocado5890pppj shut up.
You sound so 🌈.
You don’t need to know who you are arguing if you have a GOOD ARGUMENT.
They didn’t have any arguments and lose
I'm not real fat but I'm not 4% body fat either. I'd love to debate Myron in general.
Man, I lost brain cells trying to listen to that guy.
i have never laughed so hard at seeing someone say "skeleton take" in chat when xqc was talking 💀
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would hope its the first time too
or bone take
Losing weight is the easy part. Being healthy is a whole different beast.
Mr beast
You can do everything right and still get cancer. Sometimes you just gotta acknowledge that you don’t have as much control as you think you do.
@@MyUniqueHandle. but you can lower probabilities to get one, besides if you ate unhealthy half of your life you already did some damage to your body
@@zubiczek7568 yeah im not saying there isnt a benefit to be had. just pointing out the flip side to it this topic of body health. I know some people who are perfectly fine and in their primes who obsess over every little detail about their health. Often to the detriment of their happiness.
If you want to control every aspect of your life. these things will eventually control you. People need to let things go and live.
True
xQc is the last person on this planet to be talking about weight gain/loss. Dude's a multi millionaire yet haven't been able to get above 130 pounds for years.
theres a difference between being able to and wanting to
@@hawkthemans He has said multiple times on his streams that he wanted to eat better and get healthier over the years. Dude clearly has a problem when it comes to dicipline and it's not just physically.
@@ozgurmithriBro he is self conscious enough to know he is not healthy. When he decides to go to the gym he will. It’s not about discipline or whatever since he has never really tried.
@@ozgurmithri at least he's not fat
@@drekingbeastW Being self conscious is great but it doesn't give him the right to give advice or knowledge on these topics. That's my point.
xqc's chat has to have a combined iq of sub 100
True.
same as his youtube comment section
Nah youtube has more brains than twitch @ohhhbirdy5975
why iq shaming
I like how he tries to give his thoughts as if they're profound but they're basic as hell
LMAO you summed it up perfectly i know so many people like that and its infuriating
Basic doesn't mean wrong.
@@j.ceasar no one said it is wrong. he said as its profound like they made a discovery in the field of philosophy or science
Beeing fat is a choice unless you have some sort of disease. It‘s a matter of having self control or not.
Menttal health is the real problem here, you can't expect everyone manage the situation like a fit person does, mental health is more serious thing and you can't just say "if i can, you can"
agreed, gained 25kgs of weight because of stress in school, lost it when I started eating less sweets, riding on my bike with my friend, and generally eating less, no crazy workouts
@@Sucrilhoshmm As Myron said, kids are literally being bombed in Gaza. people need to learn how to be grateful and their mental health problems will drastically reduce
@@thebanj0271 well if that was that easy mental health problems wouldn't exist, you can't expect people act like you would, that's why people kill, suicide or do some stuff that you would never do, right, because their mind is different than yours. When we understtand this and instead of confronting we understand their situations is going to be much easier, since you want their wellbeign, right? otherwise it's just an ego thing and i don't think you have to enter a debate in that state.
@@Sucrilhoshmm You probably won't like this answer but the reason why is because they are Godless, and when you don't believe in God you will eventually end up nihilistic
Fit and muscular are two different things. The juced dudes wont be able to run a mile
Or defend themselves for more than 30 seconds in a physical altercation
@@TheGreature literally irrelevant lol
@@TheGreature juced have better aim from their imaginary mclaren, i mean besides the point: i weight 57 kg being 180 without any way of gaining anything practically, i do get knocked out easily, but funny enough - fists are too bony n sharp and if i scream i need to use better gloves since i ll hurt more, never being able to aim for the head though - gonna crush my arm easily :(
I agree but there can be overlap, it's case by case
@petruslarsson8188 Greg doucette, the guy with the blue shirt, does bike races and wins them. He has a better cardio than us look at his channel before talking.
Average NA debate
i Love eating street meat, as long as they put that white sauce on it
Unhealthy fat vs unhealthy bodybuilder🥶
@@Not_a_Femboy._.what do you mean unhealthy bodybuilder lmao these guys are say healthier than u
@@powtmowHe was out of breath just talking bro
@@neilsmith5510 greg doucette, the guy with the blue shirt, does wins bike races... i don't think you have better cardio than him
I began to realize I dont really watch these "XQC reacts" for XQC but for chat.
Having chat on their own would bore you to death though
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738im a big fan of x but his takes are so braindead its hard to watch
@@vergil2 Curious in what way. He speaks his mind but his takes are VERY lukewarm
just now?
@@nik4045 yea... unfortunately
my man has sprayed on black web wig lmao
“The way you carry yourself” buddy couldn’t even carry yourself
4:25 if i had a fat friend i wouldn't go and diss and shit on him and make him feel worse about his life i would instead encourage him to lose the weight even if he didnt tell me he wants to make a change because as a friend that is your job to help your friends and care about their health and their mental
unfortunately I had friends like that for a similar issue, I cut them off and its kinda lonely now but at least I'm not in a toxic relationship
Bro is from Fresh and Fit. We dont listen to him anyway
a skeleton giving advise is really funny💀
Tbf he ain’t to far off he has the right idea
@@chanestefano347 he is very far lmao you don't need to do 45 miles to burn 4500 calories
@@anttondesperben377 cardio burns so little calories he isn’t off by much
@@chanestefano347 i'm saying our body burns calories just by existing, you don't need to do a marathon every day to lose weight
@@anttondesperben377but u would need to run a marathon to burn 4500 calories for the majority of people so he’s not wrong
Jeff Nippard prolly has the best video covering this topic ngl
who?
@@iskiiwizz536 Jeff Nippard. Learn to read
"According to the latest meta-analysis" 🤓🤓🤓
@@thebanj0271 average high school dropout
@@thebanj0271 cringe
why does bros waves look like a copy and pasted png
I had the exact same thought 🤣
PNG FILE'S
😭
toupee from hair loss from juicing maybe
because its fake lol he was balding real hard but went got hair surgery
The dude in the checkered shirt doesnt even look that fat?
He almost has skinnier legs than xQc
Some guys are so badly proportioned lmao
Yeah, I got a pretty similar build to him, if you're a dude whose got that big shoulders/chest build, you can hide a TON of weight
Dark souls character creation ahh build
Greg even says that during the video that that dude is 6+ foot and huge, and he can't go out tell normal guys out there don't care about weight because he's a literal model.
If he was a woman at the same ratiod weight people would call her obese.
Chat saying you can eat what you like if you burn 3k-4k calories exercising have never had a job. Burning that many calories each day is a full time job
work a physical job then
@@oooooba8343 stop smoking crack please
@@oooooba8343 Ah yes, I can see all the company executives becoming construction workers. You're very smart.
@@oooooba8343 You can burn max like 400 calories at a "physical" job dingus
You burn most calories by existing
no one wants to be fat, these people are coping so hard. You cant move properly, you cant breathe properly, everything hurts and worst of all people will make fun of you. Stop coping, start eating less, move more and you will lost the weight. It's not that hard, you gotta have it in you to make the change happen.
If someone came to them the next day and offered them a fit physique, they would take it instantly without ever looking back. The only reason they don't do it right now is because of a lack of discipline.
You don’t even have to more more literally just eat less
Its not that easy for everyone
Actually there are people that want to be fat, and some even strive to get as heavy as possible. Fat fetishists, such as gainers and feedees.
"it's not that hard" yet less than 5% of obese people ever lose that weight. it is hard. if you grow up with an unhealthy diet you will most likely stay eating that for the rest of your life. your brain is literally wired to continue living the way you've been. i'm not saying it's impossible but it almost is.
If xqc is going to skip half the video and give uneducated takes, why does he watch the video at all??
Must be a new frog
I think most of his takes were pretty good for once
@@FlokiTech no
Yeah im sure he went into the video saying "im going to skip half of this", and timestamp one of the uneducated takes lol they were fine this vid
@@FlokiTech the only good take he had was the weight gain while going to the gym one
Love how its less than half of the original length
5:10 This is the same gigachade that cried and threw a hissy fit because people made fun of his friend for knocking up a sex worker 😂
youre fat arent you
Wait until x realizes being unhealthy with ur food choices and being underweight is just as bad as being over weight
being overweight is definitely worse
He’s aware lol
@@oooooba8343There is no "worse' underweight and fat are very bad. I dont know why u are debating this
@@IssaMeZane They're coping.
@@IssaMeZane You're just wrong. both are bad but one is worse. If a fat person and underweight person had the EXACT same health issues, the fat person will still be worse off.
as someone that has never been fat and got to 240lb durring covid I can say being fat is 100% a choice I didn't like being fat I chose to lose it I got the "RESOURCES" everyone else has aka counted my calories made sure I was I was in a deficit and lost the weight back down to my normal weight. legit these guys spout nothing but excuses. I don't like how the fresh&fit shirt guy says it but he's completely not wrong its a choice and then people act like it's not
I burned 14 kilos in 2 months
@@strm3253 I lost almost 60lbs in just under 3 months was it healthy to lost that much that quick probably not but having became fat and started working in a kitchen really made me want to not be a fat piece of shit and push myself
Because "choice" is just not helping. Why are so many people obese in america? Nobody would choose to be 700 lbs not being able to move and being out of breath after 5 steps.
Its such a hugely complex topic starting from how advertisers manipulate which food we eat to genes, social environment and mental health.
There are studies about childhood obesity and how the majority of them growing up like that will never be a normal weight. There seems to be more than just choice playing into it since its a group that is disproportionally affected by this. There is also permanent metabolism change people can go through that can lead to weightgain while being obese even with 2500 calories a day.
Not saying that applies to everyone but i think dismissing everything with "its your choice" is just an easy way out. Every person is an individual and while its amazing and i am happy that it worked for you it cant be applied to everyone automatically
Bro was never fat and decided to have a few burgers and then gave it up. 10/10 bozo a skinny guy like you made a choice.
How about the people who were overweight as kids because our parents fed them dogshit and allowed us to gain weight? They've been fat their whole lives. Is that a choice? A child at the age of 5 who eats what they're given by their parents? Who grows up and spends their whole life overweight. Factory default.
Now sure, you could say "when you're older it becomes a choice" but the reality is your entire world since your first memory is "normal" or "overweight". Imagine you've spent an entire lifetime eating too much. Overweight is your normal, it's literally physically hardwired into the neurons of your brain, the way your body works, the biology, everything.
To lose weight is to go against 20, 30, 40 years of default programming. That's not a choice homie, that's like going against your biology and what you think you know about yourself, your actual identity and who you see in the mirror and who you think you are. It's fighting your bodys factory default settings. Its like a CSGO professional trying to play chess. They're just different games, one feels at home and familiar, the other one you just constantly lose.
"Its a choice" is part of it. But "chosing to lose weight" doesn't make the weight vanish in an instant. It's YEARS of going against how you've lived your entire life. It's not a single choice. It's a choice every minute of every day, it's constant, it's in your mind, it's like you've got woody joe in your walls tempting you and you have to make this choice. This choice against what you've known your whole life.
And once you're a health weight, congrats. You're now on day 0 of being skinny, but day 14610 of being fat. So now you need to go day to day, fighting against your 14k days of default overearing.
But to skinny bro who had a few too many burgers for a couple months and then gave it up and thinks "it's a choice". Bro is detached from reality.
I'm not making excuses, I'm telling you why it's more than "just a choice"
perhaps he was not wrong with saying that being fat is a choice, I would agree with that. But that isn't the only thing he said, he also went on to yap about how fat people don't deserve respect, deserve to be bullied, and are valued less as human beings, etc. so I would argue that he was more wrong than right. The things this fresh&fit guy said just comes from a place of idiocy and he is being incredibly arrogant. He is much less likable as a person than the average fat person would be. This guy needs to be knocked down a peg
Bro says BBL then chat goes nuts with BBL Drizzy😂😂😂
Already 20 seconds in the video and XQC is already shooting himself in the foot. 😂
"Ive talked to over 3,000 women" brother?? Have you seen the types of women he talks to? His sampled data is all outliers of the craziest people he can get on his podcast😂
I am currently a bit overweight, on a diet, exercising every day. It's a struggle, but it's also a choice. When I fall off my diet I do so willingly, I tell myself I can do it when I know I shouldn't and I rightfully feel guilty the next day. The guilt comes from a genuine place. It's both difficult and a choice. - An overweight person who is currently set on losing weight, and not justifying it.
When you have a good length of disciplined success take note of your physical improvements even if they are little improvements. Let it motivate you, it feels good to see progress! Remember that the little snack or overeating day is so temporary and celebrate when you dont give in, like hell yea I feel accomplished. You got this, be proud of yourself.
33:50 , most of the fitness industry are against steroids. It's becoming more acceptable for people to stop hiding their substance use. Greg Doucette, who is in this video (who has taken PEDs) always makes videos on people like Sam Sulek, urging them to calm down on the juice.
yeah but it's still pretty bad. a lot of fitness influencers keep getting exposed for being a fake natty and most fitness influencers are on gear anyways. which is pretty sad
Nah roids are a huge status symbol in this environment especially for skinny guys. Nothing is off limits to get the poon.
Editor did him dirty with that thumbnail picture
Whoever thought bringing Myron into this conversation would make it productive needs to get fired.
He was the best part of the video.
Funny how its not about the things he said just his presence😂
He killed your dog or why are you mad?
@@user-vd3pw3xk5she didn't say much of anything inherently wrong but the delivery wаs awfuI and unproductive
Found the 12 y.o@@MobyDrip
@@MobyDrip His audience is like 13 year old incels. He's so skibidi sigma 😈😈😈
Bro said "dark Triade traits" 💀
LMFAOOO
What about it?
what's the matter never heard of the term lil bro?
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@@eNoqfOu It's incel terminology
People aren't aware that the percentage of people who are overweight due to a medical condition is extremely low, under 3% of all overweight people in western countries in fact.
And yet if you talk to fat people they all have a medical or mental excuse
Even with the medical condition, it just means they have to work harder to not be fat which is still their fault, just like how a guy in a wheel chair has to work harder to get around, it's no excuse for him to give up and rot at home.
Its probably lower than that honestly. The health industry is willing to lie to to fit a narrative
3% does not mean we should disregard them.
That's like thanking women for being nurses and disregarding mele nurses just because most nurses are women.
@@j.ceasar they just need to work harder to lose the weight, there's still no room for making excuses
Man I can't wait to listen to El skeletino make truly insightful takes on weight loss
someone in chat said "Vikkstar123"😭
xQc’s entire argument is “some people” like fat people or skinny people. We aren’t talking about some people, we are talking about most people or the average.
“Some girls like short and wide” yeah like 1 out of 100. Probably not the best idea to reduce your dating pool to near 0
The prompts for the video were absolutes. Attraction isn't absolute. "some people" is a valid argument to a prompt like "jacked guys are more attractive than fat guys".
Depends on who you ask, and what their definitions of fat and jacked are. Generally, the answer is yes, but not always, and not only edge cases.
@@SGTsnick3 some people think it is ok to kill others with no justification, nothing works in absolutes. We all know the questions are asking in general.
@@SGTsnick3 “some people” is an exception to the rule, an exception to a rule is not a valid argument.
“Humans have 10 fingers”
“Some people have less than 10 fingers”
Okay? Should we then base our decisions on the “some people” and produce 9 finger gloves? No, that’d be illogical and dumb.
@@Enigma_Vids Do you think the proportion of people with 9 fingers is similar to the proportion of people who find skinny or fat people attractive? This is an utterly ridiculous comparison. Go outside, and you see plenty of skinny people in relationships; no question. A fair amount of fat people too. This is a bad analogy.
The core difference with this is that humans, generally, are relatively thin and unmuscular people without training. We tend to naturally develop this way. We evolved as a relatively gracile species, so of course thin bodies (not necessarily skinny, just in the thin range) are generally found attractive too. I don't know if that's seriously being argued against. Reality seems to oppose.
I think fatness is where there's a relative drop-off in average attractiveness perception because, as a species, we essentially were never that large until quite recently. That being said, it's nevertheless not a rarity for fat people to end up in relationships too, so this is obviously not some one-in-a-million type of case like you're trying to paint.
Q doesnt know about resting metabolic rate you dont have to physically burn every calorie you consume since your body usually automatically burns around 2k per day so if you work out a lot you add those calories burned to your rmr and then eat less than you burned so like 1600 calories or sum
This whole video is just xqc coping with being skinny
I bet most girls would think the host in the grey shirt is most attractive
he is the most attractive to me too
nahh for me it's the lumberjack
True he’s quite muscular but not crazy muscular and lean too and he’s not black like myron
@@barnaby4232 based
18:45 Xqc trying hard to explain what a BBL is to chat and chat just jamming out spamming "BBL DRIZZY 🕺💃" is just comedy Gold 🤣
18:23 “6’2” 120 💀”
Never thought I’d see the day skeleton man x talks about health. Have u ever had your heart checked brother ?
LMFAOOOO
Seriously if there was ever a guy not to take advice from its xqc
People mad Greg is right he is super honest about how he feels also was always open about his steroids. Dude helped me a lot with solid healthy meals all free. If you have RUclips you and watch this video you have no excuse to look at his channel and get free help from a pro
He used to make kinda* informative videos. Now he just screams at the camera and rants for half and hour
@@mokilolo5907 yea his more recent stuff I stopped watching but older content is solid.
@@mokilolo5907 yet, he's still usually correct
I was fat when I was younger. Then I changed my life around and I am now working in nutrition science.
What I've realized on my "journey" is that for most fat people, it's a mental issue. There's a reason behind the over eating ,it's not just being a glutton. It's often something like depression, not getting enough attention and love from others and so on. If you solve that aspect or at least know what's causing it, then you can make changes.
It's 100% percent an environmental thing. If you're in an environment that promotes it, then it's much more likely to happen. Binge eating, and on another spectrum, under eating are ways that people use to cope with life's hardships. If you surround yourself with good people, and put effort into every aspect of your life, good habits will build upon good habits, slowly but surley. It's mostly a mental thing.
Remember, day one >>> one day
@@MobyDrip Yepp, it's why it's so hard to change. Because you've lived it for so long and shaped your mind around it.
You are right. For some it is depression... for some it's a fetish.
Thank you @xqc for covering this. There is a LOT to deconstruct here.
5:39 Paying child support is the effect of bad choices, so is being fat. Also being bullied on the internet is completely avoidable by either blocking the bullies, not having a public profile, avoiding whatever it is that caused the bullying, or just not use social medias.
The moment X said "there's no way you can burn all the calories you eat" his opinion should be nullified. Does this guy even know how the body works? Buddy said there's no way fat people can run 40 miles to burn the calories, no shit dude, most of the calories are burnt by existing, working out burns calories and grow your muscles which in turn burn more by existing... He was projecting the entire video through a mirror lol
but his point still stands. he meant to say exercising is not enough to sustain weight loss. that comes from cutting calories
@@oshke5225 He's still wrong though (Also, that's not his point). While it is way more effective to cut down your caloric intake, it is arguably harder to cut down on calories especially when they're fat because they will crave foot more often, bad mental state by going around their life hungry, etc. That's why so many fat people weightlift to build muscle and burn more calories instead of not working out and just eating less
@@oshke5225 Also I don't think there's any point defending him on that, he just has no idea about this and you fixing his take doesn't really make him right either
@@pablurp9800 Its actually difficult to sustain weight when you're that fat. If they dropped to eating ONLY 3k calories a day and did no extra exercise, the weight will fall off them
@@livelyosprey Yes of course, I'm saying that if you allowed yourself to get that fat, you'll most likely have a harder time reducing your intake than to add working out to your life. Pretty sure I added that to my take
I mean.... being fat is a privigile. why wouldn't you see any fat homeless person? when you don't eat you just lose weight that literally how it work. I guess there might be specific cases where doesn't apply but I would say it might be 0.1% from fat ppl. I'm not saying that you should stop eating so you lose weight also so probably died cuz a lot of problems from no eating, but don't act like it's a "curse"
Tons of homeless people are overweight
Oh my to much social media for you. What made you come to the conclusion that there arent any homeless fat people? Jesus christ.
@@IssaMeZane No fat people in starving nations unless you're well off. The weight doesn't just spawn in bro.
@@MobyDripYou're slow and dont understand the body... lmfao
@@IssaMeZane No, you don't understand the human body. If you don't eat, you don't gain weight. This isn't rocket science.
Chat never fails to make me laugh lmao the selection of emotes are too damn good
They’re a bunch of hooligans
XQC with an exam you can check how many calories your body naturally consumes daily, when you workout you burn the EXTRA calories above that number, you don't assume 3k calories and burn 3k calories you only burn the surplus.
a wise beast once said: "If you cant handle the jokes, lose the weight"
Half of your family is probably obese
X saying technically about Jesse being fat when ehs morbily obese is the funniest
If you were to ask an overweight person if there was anything that they would change about themself and they said no then that's wild.
I like that the old outro song/screen is back!
Bro just don't be fat...
I was 200 pounds at 13 years old (5'7), then I hit puberty and wanted girls, so I lost 50 pounds in 6 months, and I've maintained an extremely low body fat percentage ever since. These people are just lazy, it's that simple.
Currently 180 pounds at 6'3
it's that easy, obesity has been eradicated thanks to your unimaginable wisdom and guidance, thank you 🙏
Ur comment just screams of privilege and ignorance
Myron is natural ofc he is gonna be smaller and he's not a bodybuilder. A stick talking about muscles lol
Yea he's the fittest in the room IMO the other Asian natural guy just does bodybuilding on cable machines, all show no go muscle.
@@PullsPressesCarries Gred is the fittest, he does cycling all day, his cardio is insane
@@_thecrimsonreaper_4972 Unfortunately he's juiced up so he can never be considered fit
@@George-li1yv He stopped abusing steroids he takes on hrt rn I think
@@_thecrimsonreaper_4972 Long term steroid abuse will cause permanent damage.
The calorie thing is true, I smoke and drink like a freak but I track my calories and consume a shit ton of protein proportionally, keeps me at the same weight
I have an ED, started as a binge eating disorder but now I struggle with restricting too much. Can say that it is a choice. If it weren't a choice, people wouldn't recover from eating disorders. Mental illness makes it a shit ton harder but it is what it is. The same goes for underweight people or anorexics. I don't think putting them down does any good but letting them know that they do have control over their own body is good 👍.
Brain rot content
Rtded takes cuz he hatws myron if any other guy said the same thing he wouldnt say anything
I guess it's just a coincidence the second I started to take my health seriously I lost 90lbs in 5 months by simply lifting and counting my calories
Whata making people fat now is having to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week and being so tired they dont cook or exercise
WOW I LOVE BOTS IN THE COMMENT SECTION❤❤❤
CANT WAIT TO READ THE BOTS OPINION ABOUT THE VIDEO❤❤❤😊😊
Didn't ask + my content is better than penguinz0's
@@akaku9 you got it all wrong. They say Charlie's
@@akaku9 My Farts Smell Better Than Charlie's Farts.
Literally eat less, its so simple. Instead of getting a Mcdonalds meal, just get the burger and chips, change the drink to water.
And to gain weight?
if you control your calorie intake and outtake, why not? (Source: I consciously go to gym and choose to eat MacDonald's both 4 times a week) @Voun_
@@stray_camel Fast food isn't even a problem. You can eat only fast food (though unhealthy and very processed) and still lose weight and build muscle, just control how much you eat. I bet if most of these people stopped drinking soda, and eating desserts like chips and ice cream, it would go a very long way. Count your calories, and the laws of thermodynamics will force you to lose the weight.
saying its simple is so disingenuous because everyone's life is different. Just because some people found it to be easy doesn't mean its going to easy for everyone. Humans aren't a copy and paste replica where everyone is the exact same in all fields mentally and physically. Spreading hate for people's body should never be tolerated its just straight up bullying and if you think bullying is fine then may god help you
@@MobyDrip Yep, it's all a numbers game in the end. You can eat like absolute shit and still lose weight as long as you're below your maintenance.
Bro this guy looks like Aaron the Online Gamer from Reckless Tortuga back in the day LMAO
The guy at the start saying someone fat is less valuable cause they drain a lot of resources like maintaining the body of a bodybuilder does not require many resources, thou I would still agree that using those resources to sustain a bodybuilder is more valuable to himself and society than wasting those resources on a fat guy
Fresh&fit black guy is 100% an Andrew Tate watcher holy cringe
I hate that fresh and fit guy
Glad he's straightforward
Some of the stuff off their podcast is really helpful though in terms of business and dating. For long term relationships though they have incel takes.
hes mostly right in this case except he missed a few points. the rest of his opinions outside of this is garbage
@@RantGrumps avoiding nuance when it comes to a psychological issue is just idiotic
Liberal
I used to be the fat kid at school. Never cared about the food and had sedentary life. It’s all about the discipline and patience. Losing 10 kg took me like 2 years
lmao Im dead the line for Xqc was seeing the guy with the v neck and a button up that what pushed him over the edge
i love greg
he says a lot of r things
@@iskiiwizz536 ?
@@iskiiwizz536 not rlly
How do people eat that much and not feel disgusting? I can barely reach the average of 2000 without feeling nauseas and bloated
you are literally a stickman if you can’t eat 2000 calories
probably cause we're normal and you have ibd or some gastrointestinal issue.
@@lulwlulw9878 Don't think they sell that here, but will try it
@@konplayz True, but it's also like 15 hot dogs a day in comparison. Which is insane to me
@@assassith I do not know what hotdogs you eat which only have 133 calories.
I don't hate fat people, at all. You want to be fat? That's great. But I hate self pity, it is truly disgusting to show a complete lack of mental fortitude and control. It is almost childlike. Now, we all have moments of weakness and all this, yes. But being fat takes effort. It is habitual and chronic behavior, which will at some point take just as great of an effort to overcome. So don't pity now, you've been living wrong and now you either fix it or be alright with your situation. Don't cherry pick the problems for self pity and convenience because that is plain weak.
Real
fat people had the excuse that healthy was food more expensive but not anymore. fast food is expensive and most of the time they order through u Uber eats which makes it even more expensive.
People make so many excuses and it helps absolutely no one 🤷🏽♂️
It would be so easy to just be like "I know I'm fat, but I like food and I don't like training. It's just how it goes. Even skinny people willingly eat junk food, smoke, drink alcohol. They know it's bad for them, but they do it anyway because they like it. That's it. I'm a hard worker in plenty of other fields, but when it comes to food and training, this is how I roll"
And honestly, I understand that point of view. If eating well and going to the gym GUARANTEED a longer life, then it would be a completely different conversation. But the four gents on the "fat side" could outlive the other four for all sorts of reason. You can get cancer, die in an accident at fourty, and so on.
However, when you become a serious burden to society, that's when it becomes a problem. If you are so obese that like four nurses need to come to lift you up in your bed when you are at the hospital because you have heart problems at a young age related to you eating insane amounts of junk food, that's a problem.
On average, being fit will make you outlive a non-fit person. Heck, it even helps with cancer.
"Research shows that having good muscle mass may improve your cancer prognosis, while helping you withstand some side effects of cancer treatments. Your muscles may play a bigger role than you think when it comes to overcoming a cancer diagnosis or dealing with the side effects of cancer treatment."
This is backed by multiple studies.
Of course life has its ways of taking a soul away, but on average, as an individual, you will live longer if you're more fit. It's the same argument about drugs or smoking.
@@MobyDrip Oh yeah, definitely. But I can completely understand people willing to take the risk and eat as they wish, simply because you can easily be overweight and still reach your 80s. I know so many unhealthy people who outlived healthy people, so those examples will always be there to convince some that taking the time and effort to take care of your body isn't worth it. It's not like fitness people outlived unhealthy people by a hundred years. And we're not talking morbidly obese, of course. But someone like Zach, in the video, is far from being at massively increased health risks as the other healthy guys. In fact, I'd say that the man in the yellow shirt has much more chance of developing health complications with his usage of steroids.
@@FromTheAtticTV Yep. Humans all have short comings, all have areas we ourselves know we should improve. It's just some have problems in different areas than others. And these problems have different severities and risks.
On a side note, Zach (the lumberjack guy) looks decently built. Like, you can tell he works out unlike everyone else there.
I also think it's a problem when people don't recognize they have a problem, and they then resort of coping. If you just say you understand it's unhealthy, you just like eating, and you don't feel like exercising, then all power to you. But a lot of them just sounded like drug addicts who want to quit, but keep justifying what they do instead.
If there was a genuine choice for them to magically get a fit physique the next day, no work, no nothing, I almost guarantee you they'd all take it.
@@MobyDrip Oh, 1000%
Being skinny doesnt equals being healthy. Look at XQC he's skinny but he eats garbage everyday. Being fit and eating right food can lower probabilities of you getting cancer and its a fact. But also dont expect that you ate garbage everyday for a majority of you life and then started eat healthy and think that you cant get cancer anymore. And thinking that "oh i will eat fast food because i like it, i dont care about health because i can die tommorow in car accident" is kinda stupid
Defend the whale xqc
No way we got xqc watching coach greg before gta VI
This is only an issue in the USA every other country shames people for being overweight lol...its literally a significant reason as to why they are not obese like America. Esp Asian countries
Not sure if my comment isn't being shown because I had a link in it, but you can do a simple Google search to disprove what you're saying. There's an obesity problem all over the world, my dude. Shame has little to do with prevention of that. A lot more of it is a lesser amount of commercialization for junk food and fast-food in some places over others.
Also, healthy support has psychologically been shown to be far more helpful in helping people shave off the pounds than shame, just as a side point.
two roided up dudes saying what's healthy is kinda hypocritical
Just because they're hypocrits that doesn't mean they're wrong.
greg is on hrt. testosterone replacement, pretty good idea once you start getting older. if that’s what you consider roided up, oh man…
@@HowCouldYouu The point is that they are hypocritical. Acting like they are on the moral high ground despite being unhealthy, destructive and a bad influence themselves.
one is formerly roided, the other barely went against the fat dudes because he knows he is in similar condition.
no tf it is not, this is not even a point lmao
Being fat is always your choice, your fault, and your problem unless you have a disorder or some type of condition that makes it genuinely or nearly impossible to lose weight
true. not much else to say.
Except to say every second fat person claims to have these problems
the truth is if you were placed in their bodies and handed with the same experience you would remain fat just like them.
true, but most people just need guidance for them to lose weight, after that then it’s 100% their fault or not
Ok dude, thanks for telling the obvious.
There is a proverb in my country that says whoever cannot reach the grapes is called sour for a moment. Most people on this earth hate what they cannot do or do not have, such as an athletic body or being rich and other things, and they try to prove that they are bad things or there is no need for them.
Being fat is a personal choice. If it doesnt affect other liberty or securities, we dont have a goddamn word to say.
i watched the whole x's reaction, as always he was right about everything
want some fries with all that meat youre having?
Someone in the chat rly said “this guy wants to be Tate so bad”
Blud must be coping about his weight rly hard
Average weight in chat is 200lbs
he is, if you dont see it, you are probably tate enjoyer yourself
@@simpsonovci95142 F&F were around before Tate blew up and they hosted him many times. They are still the same dudes love em or hate em that they were then.
bro had the worst takes and suffers from superiority complex. I get that he wants to give an impression of how good he lives his life but my god, be emphatic and try to help. Bullying/making fun of is not the same as constructive criticism. Otherwise you are just a moron. Imagine saying "boo-hoo" to a guy that told you mental problems are a real thing. Pathetic human being.
Every tate enjoyer I’ve met irl is smaller and weaker than me.
12 hours on treadmill would burn 6 full turkeys lol
Aint no way they hired an irl mod
half of these pauses was just x trying to shit on myron when he had good takes LMAO. i cant stand myron but this dude literally ONLY tried to shit on him when he had good takes. x HAS to be baiting
myron is still an absolute moron tho
Myron didn't have a single good take.
This is not "fit men" these are geared up bodybuilders. Ask them to run a 10k and they will die of a heart attack because they arent actually "fit".
greg doucette is very fit, they are also refered to as "jacked men" in the video so they probably just changed the title to fit because it sounded better or something
Yea as other dude stated greg is a fucking marathon cyclist or whatever the fuck it called. Dont know y people like u always project ur insecurities whenever u see a dude on gear bigger than u. Its a convo about bodyweight and fat not who can run the longest distance. Guess what, those people have been less than 5% bf and know how to manipulate their bodyweight and bf extremely well (except myron dudes a joke)
Tyler is natty. Myron is natty probably. Greg wins bike races and he’s off the juice…. Tyler did Muay Thai for the first time and looked like some peoples 3-4 months in.
@@oooooba8343 using steroids and being above the healthy bmi range makes you unfit. you can talk shit on bmi all you want but at the end of the day it's one of the best ways to tell if youre healthy, fit and athletic or not. muscle is just like fat, having too much of it is just as bad as having too little of it
Mario Rios
I can’t imagine not being in shape. So glad I been lifting and doing jiujitsu since I was 15
If only they taught at schools that every body is under the law of thermodynamics and there are literally no humans alive that can't lose weight in caloric deficit, the world would be better
Wyron
incoming haters 😂😂
Lyron
5:20 no one deserves to be bullied for their own personal life choices. what a loser.
You can if they’re online promoting body positivity. If your fat and just offline chillin then whatever who cares
It's not a matter of "deserving" it's literally just using your brain. If I choose to go outside in a fursuit as a personal choice im obviously still gonna be bullied because that is WEIRD (im not a furry it was just an example)
@@LucaBrasi-kg8gm that’s kinda silly though because fat people have been shit on way before the body positivity movement was even a thing. things don’t just appear out of thin air.
@@Not_a_Femboy._. naaaaaah bros a furry
@@Not_a_Femboy._. my brain is telling me not to bully people for how they look.
OLD OUTRO FINALLY THANK YOU EDITOR
not only u skipped at the start you didn't watch the whole thing now I have to look the video up and watch it alone.
myron was 100% correct about literally everything.
Nah. Everything he assumed and said about women was wrong.
I've heard many conservative women say that they'd rather want a man with a dadbod than a fit body.
There was also the "women are liars, you cant trust them" part which any rational person, left or right, agrees is bs.
Godless Western problems 🤦🏾♂️😭😭
Based
there isn't even a correlation with 'western' lmao. More 'muh decadent west' cope, the inferiority complex is fascinating to observe
@@domerame5913 ironic you're telling me to cope.
@@requis200 i live in one of the least obese countries lol no cope here
@@domerame5913 cool?
greg's point at 3:15 is kinda dumb, counterargument: why would you take steroids knowing it could shave off just as many if not more years off your lifespan xD
The white crocs with socks on are crazy😂