We are on a super tight budget so that and an EMC8000 testing mic is about all we can afford at the moment. They are OK for A/B comparisons but, yes, not ideal. I think I will leave that to you for the time being until we start making some real money ;)
@@CustomCans I hear ya. Well bright side is it can actually be cheaper than a miniDSP ears for an IEC ear simulator. Give me a shout if you ever wanna go that route.
@@DMS3TV That sounds interesting, any advice on parts to build our own would be greatly appreciated. Or... if you have some good ideas for building a sensibly priced testing rig, We have a decent workshop and a team of product designers and makers if you fancy doing a colab on something
that shiny golden ear protection is exactly what im looking for to wear to work, because i was told last week that i cant keep using power tools without ppe. my boss has been on my case for a while and i keep telling him i will get them once someone does an online giveaway and realizes I'm the greatest man on earth. and here you are. your donation to my health and safety will be appreciated friend. you will have saved my from industrial deafness, so i can instead get the hearing loss i deserve from the headphones.
I've been teetering on getting a pair of enthusiast headphones for years now. Would definitely listen to more music, even more often. My life has been on the up and up, and the past 6 months of my life has been a breath of fresh air. Finally have a job where I have some comfort and sustainability. Recently found your vids after doing more research on headphones. Definitely here to stay. I would be over the moon if I won these headphones....but either way, I wanna dive more into the audio-sphere, and will definitely be watching you for a long time to come.
Greetings from Canada! I just recently discovered your channel as I’ve been researching my next acquisition and I’m quite interested in trying some planers. I really enjoy your deconstruction process you have great insight and curiosity about the whichness of why on how these phones all sound. Thanks! I’d really enjoy these and most importantly, I just realized my wife has caught up with me in number of headphones, which will never do! Lol. All joking aside thanks for putting your videos out. I really enjoy them. Cheers
Would love these. I am relatively new to the audiophile hobby, I am already hooked, spent too much money and struggling to justify any of this to friends, family and at times myself. Love it.
Quite new to the audio community but just found your channel not too long ago when looking up how to do a detachable cable mod on my 990's. Your channel has inspired the tinkerer inside me to start doing projects again. But to be honest a little too scared to attempt the detachable cable on my own, so I plan on buying one of your send in services as an early birthday present to myself! On a similar note I bought the DT990 premiums last year instead of the pros and would love to see it torn down on channel as well as your thoughts on the differences in sound, because the inner earcup seems quite a bit different for the premiums and would like to hear your opinions. Thank you for making such great informative content. I can dream of winning but regardless I hope these cans go to a good home!
Yes, I must get a pair in to have a play with at some point. We order beyer stock 3 months in advance so I won't be able to get some until Xmas now but I will try to get some then
I want them, need a closed back in my collection, but I find it impossible to tell a better joke than 1266s sounding right ;-). Cheers mate, love your guides on midifying cans, keep up the good work!
I bought the Sundaras closed backs few days ago. Yes, their mid range is forward and out of the box they sound a bit shouty, but after I EQ'd them they sounded really good to my ears. Really happy with this purchase 🥳
@@chrisp9724 It realy depends on the source and the users ears... With my old Ifi Zen Can/Zen Dac Signature V2 setup I had to scoop out the mids with -2db from 400 to 4000hz, also boost the bass quite a bit, I am kind of a bass head lol. Now on my Aune S9c Pro DAC/Amp I am only boosting the bass and not touching anything else, on this DAC/Amp the midrange sound really good to my ears. It is interesting that I am EQ'ing more my Edition XS than the Sundara CB headphones though.
I'm honestly equally excited about the cable, would love to see what it can do to some high-end cans. And hey, if it's not an improvement, it'd be an amazing strap for my hipster tote bag. Can't let all that work go to waste
Hi man, I've followed some of your he400 se mod videos, but didn't subscribe until now. I'd love to win these headphones. I loved the Sundara when I had a pair, but I sold them looking for something closed back. Haven't pulled the trigger on anything, but having a closed back Sundara to keep the dementors away while listening would be phenomenal. Also, they look trés chique, certain to impress my coworkers. 😉
Hello, first time watching the live. I may need a closed back now that life is changing, I would love to get this famous fusion of the both. Anyway it was nice chatting, and good luck everyone.
Hearing you say that you're going to be ripping out the tuning, to see what does what, makes you sound like a mad scientist. "I wonder what this bit does?" and then you rip it out, potentially permanently damaging them, just to see how it changes the sound. Love the content, and yeah I want em.
Great review, you are better at describing sound than you give yourself credit. I've been using the OPPO PM-3 for 6 years now as my portable closed back, the leather looks like it's gotten in a fight with a wolverine, she's beyond ready for retirement haha. I'd give it away but the receiver would have to be as good as you at refurbishing/modding headphones. It does hold a special place in my heart though, being the first closed-back planar ever, and it's now discontinued. I'll put it in my museum if nothing else.
Love learning about the new closed back Sundara from your 2 reviews. Seems that Hifiman did improve a bit in term of build quality from your previous video. Love these type of videos that provide lot of new information. I would love to have a chance to win the give away (for once) and heard the headphones myself. Thank you.
hey, it's probably to late to enter the competition, but I still wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your videos. For one, they seem really honest and direct from the chest and you are clearly enjoying tinkering with cans. I watch your videos mainly because of your joy and excitment and I hope you can grow your channel and business this way. Having just bought the open Sundaras a month ago, I can't justify buying a new set of closed ones to my wife... On the other hand I do fancy an upgrade from my DT770. Life ain't easy... best wishes, BT
Mods seems fun, been interested to start my own modding since i bought a modded dt880 from the used market. but the fear of ruining the headphone is holding me back. I hope to complete a headphone mod of my own one day. Cheers anyway your videos are great.
I like to listen to classical music on my open back Sundaras when I'm sober, but I would love to listen to good techno music on the closed back Sundaras when I'm wasted ;) Thanks for the nice vid!
I have used Audeze's Penrose for over a year. They're also closed planars but with an integrated DAC. Even the input jack is reprocessed by it. As a newbie to planar headphones, they've impressed me with their detailed upper mids. I consider replacing them though because of their internal DAC and the uncomfortable headband, despite their low weight. I'm curious what thoughts went into the two different headband approaches of HiFiMan. So if the giveaway is still open, I certainly would appreciate the chance. Great job with these golden ones btw.
Been using Dt 990 Pro´s forever and they just died recently. I´m going to repair them, but the measurements you did in this video def. make me wanna shop around for possible alternatives. I would love these one off´s for when I produce and edit music for my dj´sets. I´m especially curious about the clarity/seperation on these and the low end. A closed pair would really make my wife much happier as i tend to turn up the volume a bit much ;o)
I work with young people In a care home and always go on about how much I love headphones. But I can never actually afford a good pair so I would love to waltz into work with these bad boys on and show them that I’ve finally made it in life. This isn’t a sob story but I would love to show these bad boys off I would wear them walking about the streets. If anybody asks then custom cans sorted me out . Love the channel.
But...but....what if my dog ACTUALLY exploded? I hope you actually haven't gotten comments like that lol. The headphones look absolutely GORGEOUS as hell, really adore the artistry and work that was put into them. They dont look gaudy or tacky at all. The cable on them as well look gorgeous too! Reminds me a bit of what Pagan Min from Far Cry 4 would wear, and that's not an insult! Definitely have that kind of vibe going about them. I definitely want em that's for sure. I'm also very surprised NO ONE has reviewed the closed version. Would have expected there to be coverage of it from all sorts of reviewers.
I love that the only requirement for the giveaway is a positive comment, preferably something that makes you laugh. Well, I've got a story to tell. Back in the day, one of my friends purchased a Audio Technica AD900, this was back around 2007 when PC enthusiasts were using soundcards because external dacs/amps had issues with PC's and motherboard audio was horrendous back then even for low impedance headphones. This friend of mine back then would buy one soundcard after another. He tried the Audigy, then X-Fi, then the Auzen X-fi Prelude (which was one of the best options back then), and another company that was popular back then (I forgot what it was called) and every time he kept saying he doesn't hear a difference! And the AD900's suck! Well by today's standards there are better options, but back then they were a massive upgrade over your usual gaming headphones. Anyway. I ended up visiting his place just to see that the entire time he was plugging the headphones into the front IO of his PC case, even though he was buying and changing soundcards 🤣😂🤣
Lol... I used to be a PC technician in the olden days so came accross that kind of thing a lot. My favourite one was when a customer rang up and complained that the cup holder kept going back in by it's self and spilling drinks... 10 mins later we established that it was a CD ROM drive and not a cup holder
@@CustomCans oh my God 😂😂 I done a bit of technician work towards the end of high school in the mid-2000's too but never came across that one. Cup holder lol
@@CustomCans haha, I have had the same job and seen the same thing! I also had a Doctor who paid £380 on a callout because they couldn't find the off button, which was right on the front with on/off written above it. I also had a man who covered his monitor in tin foil to stop the demons getting out. When you deal with the public, stories are often made.
I certainly would love to win these Sundara closed back. I have the open backs, the more recent revision, and just bought an amplifier that really scales them. First thing that caught my eye with your headphones is that you put a Mexica (Aztec) Sun Stone decal on them. As a Mexican, I say to you: nice touch! The other day I tried using the Sundaras as monitors whilst playing with my band. I kept telling the guitar player: louder mate, louder! I couldn’t hear the click or midi tracks. Eventually, the vocalist takes them off my head, puts them on, has the guitarist play back the midi and he literally fell on his bum. He looks at me and says: these sound great, but put on your iems and get to playing, not time to listen to music. Thanks for your videos and reviews. Have a good one, cheers!
I was going to get a pair of the Sundara's as my first pair of hi-fi headphones for my birthday because I love the idea of Planar technology and want to know what "beautiful" sounds like 😂. Then I heard these were coming out and have been waiting for a good measurement of em to know if I'd be better off with these or my first choice. Finding out that they are mobile friendly and have incredible bass extension is amazing since I listen to a lot of house and instrumental music while working or reading. So now I'm leaning way more towards these as an everyday driver to replace my NC 700s, especially if the isolation is good enough to almost get you run over 😂. I don't know what mid forwardness sounds like but most of my music listening doesn't include vocals since the words distract me. But I also feel like these would be a great pair to experiment with EQ-ing, leaving a lot of room for me to explore the hobby. However I'd still love to own the open Sundaras since I was drawn to them for how much they represented the clean neutral sound of hi-fi the reviews I've seen were talking about, and motive me more to explore good amps and DACs as well 😅. Winning these would mean I can still get them for my birthday and have both as you recommended 😅. I'd also get to compare closed Vs open back hi-fi a lot earlier, as I planned to do that if I ever got the DCA Aeon Noir in the future (the folding arms had me sold immediately). If not though, you've still made a great case for these for me so I'll flip my upgrade path in reverse and try a mobile friendly closed back before diving deeper into open back hi-fi maybe with the edition XS, Ananda or just the HE400's as an affordable gateway. Thanks ☺️
I think, if I could only have one or the other I would go with the open backs but they both have their charms ... Hopefully I can convince my team to let me get some eddtion XS and Anadas in next month... good luck. J
A new pair of headphones is ALWAYS needed! I'm interested to see what the experience is like as someone who's only used Beyer cans. Also, a video going over cable braiding would be sick - I'm looking at modding my 770s to take a mini xlr connection and making some custom braided cables, but I've no idea how different braids affect cable length...
A few years back I really got into planar magnetic headphones, and from there, just stuck with them. After running around with planars, I decided to try open back headphones, so I picked up a pair of Hifiman Sundaras Open back. I realized, my environment can be noisy at times, and it can be hard to hear in noisy environments. After seeing your video introducing a closed-back pair I thought it would be perfect to use in those situations. Sundaras are always better in pairs, and mine would love to have yours as its partner. Would love to hear them on my SMSL SU9. Fingers crossed! P.S. You said to make you laugh; so here's a joke to go with my comment. What was the energizer bunny arrested for? He was arrested on a charge of battery. Hope it helps!
Well boy did I learn an amazing amount from your videos on headphones. Looking to massively upgrade the sound of my music and got an iFi hipdoc2, needed some quality headphones (to move up from the Sony WH-1000XM4's) and was recommended the upcoming Sundara Closed Backs in Australia, but not out here yet (we seem to be the last to get new stuff, clearly!!) so did the research, and learned a huge amount from you, thank you!!! Would I like to win, heck yes, and I love the design you developed on the headphone cups, sort of Incan/Buddhist mandala, very cool.
@@CustomCans Thank you, I wish me luck in the comp too, but hey, even if I don't win, I still value your vlog. It is very interesting to learn from. I use some of the ways you describe sound to become more aware of what I should be listening out for and to start to understand the way to break down the different aspects of the sound. Thank you. James
Yes....that looks awesome.. I'm a modder myself but I use CNC to do some custom grilles for LCD series and Hifiman Eggshapes... My current favorite finishes are black chrome and 24k gold plated. Great to change a muted design to a lively cans. Absolutely worth the effort. Once again great works from you. Appreciate your sharing on how you did it. 👍🏻 Cheers.
I would love a CNC mill ... at the moment our workshop is above an estate agents so we don't want to annoy them with the sound but if we move it is going on the list of new toys
If I win these cans I'll be sure to make a click baity video: gold Sundaras vs regular Sundaras, cork sniffin' if gold makes them sound more sparkly Love the channel, keep up the good work!
I'd love those cans! *insert story here about how my life is terrible due to losing my job/pets/house/relatives (pick your favourite) and everything would be fixed if I got some fancy gold headphones for free* But seriously, those Sundaras look awesome. I haven't tried any planars before and I want to hear whatever it is that apparently makes planars so good. Been running with my AKG K371s for a couple years and I love them but I'd also love to be able to switch it up a bit without creating a sinkhole in my wallet :p
Jason the Gray has spoken! His magic words influence the custom headphone community on a daily basis! Thank you for your not-so-precise description of these wooden beauties!
O.M.G, I've been living for almost 40 years and this is the very first time I see a cable that looks like a piece of silk, really don't know how they will sound. Btw, love the closed back design
Thanks for comparing measurement graphs and speaking about it. It was a straightforward and not deceiving part. I liked it. Need to listen again for mine HiFiMan X4 and listen to your video again)
Hey! I kinda do what you said at the end of the video haha. I team up with young musicians and we get in touch with (sorry, I don't know the word in English but) the people who work with the mayor of different towns here in my country and we teach youngsters how to make their own instruments, how to make music and finally, have it properly recorded (the least controlable factor is acoustics but everything is truly "Do what you can, you'll get better"). Each step from a PBC to a DAW is briefly covered! Oh, I know this channel for a while now but these last few days I've looped your Beyer vids cause I got a broken DT860 and I'm having too much fun repairing/modding it!
I'd love to have a set of these as I've become obsessed with looking for new details in old favourites - I'd also love to see if I can hear any magic coming through your fancy cables!
An interesting review. Thankyou.. I have a pair of DT1990, but I found that they are not the best when used in a hospital bed. Too many requests... I was contemplating a pair of DT1770 or DT177x to resolve the issue, but now I have the Closed-Back Sundara's to consider as well. Well done with the custom artwork. The results would look good in pride of place in my loungeroom... I look forward to seeing future projects....
I am pretty certain the 1990 and 1770 have the same driver - if you are feeling brave, you could open up the 1990 and plug up all the holes on the inside with plasticine or something and pretty much end up with some 1770s
Love your down to earth comparision. Very intersting take on the Closed-back Sundura. Would love to own one sometimes in the future. Thanks for the awesome info.
I want em mostly because the Sundara was my long time love and I finally got my hands on them, but unfortunately couldn't hold on to them for long because I didn't have a good enough amp. Now I've upgraded and am excited to not only come back to a long lost love, but also to an unique model *French kiss*
@@CustomCans I'm going to be honest. I haven't seen your channel before this video. Last 2 years I've became obsessed with audio/music. I've looked around your channel and it's really something else man haha. It looks like another thing I've looked at which is custom sneakers.
Thanks for the great 2 part review. I found your channel looking for a review of this very headphone and now I'm a subscriber a looking forward to more reviews. I would like to win the Sundara closedbacks so I can walk around sparking joy in peoples lives with the great look you guys have added to the headphones.
I just want the headphones mate, I've been looking for a decent pair of closed backs and since these have decent isolation I wouldn't mind a pair. Doubt I'd take em to school or anything but I'd use em out and about, plus the cable is really nice so 🤷♂️ Cheers!
Your artwork on the Sundara Closed is very classy, and the cables are The Chefs Kiss! I would love to show them off around the city (Philadelphia)! Love your designs! One LOVE! Cheers!!
Philidelphia... I suspect that ... On the playground was where you spent most of your days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin', all cool And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school
The Sundara alwayes looked awesome imo, and then u slapped 24 karat gold on them, thats baller. I would love these since I cant use open back headphones bc I would annoy everyone I live with and the sundara seems like a great pair of headphones!
Wow, you went all out to create some amazing looking headphones !!!! Very good idea and the result is beautiful !! Would love to use them to upgrade my sound !
Huge fan of Custom Cans, loved my modded DT990 from you! Interested to try the closed back Sundara as I never fully got the hype behind the open backs and wonder how these compare!
They would be a good pairing as they are very different, I suspect you would hear totally different things swapping between 990s and these... good luck
Really interested to get one of these! I'm currently appaled by hifiman qc on my edition xs when the unit I got had rattle on the right side. Even before the rattle, I felt like the advertised "bass" was not really there; even the sundara open back new revision had more bass impact. I hope these sundara closed edition will scratch the itch of the basshead junkie I am!
I like the mods on this channel very much, and demonstrators don't hesitate to share the transformation process and results with everyone. It is beneficial for fans who are interested in DIY! I have an original SUNDARA, I like its sound very much, I don't know if the new version will suit my appetite :)
Never tried a hifi closed back nor planar headphones but I would love to ! The cable also makes the set look quite exciting. Loving the stuff you guys doing !
always enjoy your moding. I tried mod with my 58x removing foam, changing cables and so on improves its clarity, soundstage and bass slam. Haven't tried any planer so far. Liked your 400se mod looks amazing. I think big headphone manufacture should hire you.
Hi, I thought I would brighten up your Monday morning👍 I actually do miss the dog, I used to insert my headphone jack into its rear receptacle and listen to the radio. Apparently, the breed is very hard to find so I would appreciate if you could also keep an eye out for any Golden Receivers in your area 😉
I'd love to have those in my collection! Here is a funny story for you, I got into this audio hobby a while ago, I'm 23 now but I want to say I started at about 13 years old with very cheap headphones, and IEM, anyways, I decided to finally get a nice pair of headphones, so I decided to go for the HD25-ii-1, and after months of saving I finally got them, I was of course blown away but my parents where extremely doubtful and non approving of me spending months of savings on a pair of headphones, and after I tried to convince them my dad said he wanted to listen what it was all about, but that same day my right speaker stoped working after just a few days of use, of course I felt like crying lol, so I went into RUclips and found one of your videos about fixing the lose connection, which saved me from being totally schooled by my parents, he loved the sound at the end, keep up the amazing work!
i want to see these paired with a jot2, sounds like they would pair great together, both are warm, forward, and bass/detail centric with slight not as wide soundstage from what i've heard
Great review strange I was looking at the closed back Sundaras a few weeks ago and was waiting for a good review . I bought the Sennheiser hd 6xx mod kit from you ,fantastic difference in sound thanks all the best.
Hi, love your laid back approach I feel chilled but entertaingly informed. I'm new to the hi-res audio file scene and enjoying every moment. My feeble attempt at a Joke "What's the difference between a Cat and a Comma? A Cat has claws at the end of his paws; A Comma is a Pause at the end of a Clause".
I'm new to audio world so this is super interesting. Looks like a good reason to learn about EQ and experiment with the tuning. Also super interested and appreciate when the headphone has that personal touch from another person's craftsmanship
Hello! I recently found this channel due to my interest in the Sundara closed back. I was also interested in seeing the changes they did to make it closed back but there’s no way this guy would take it apart! I like how you approach your headphones!
would be very cool to get them of course. Really have been loving your videos especially the modding stuff since I really love tinkering with stuff and modding my headphones if i can to try to improve them since it's really a pleasure. That clip in waveguide mod on the he400se that you haven't released made me make my own for my pair of OG he400 s i had found, works wonders. Your really the only person making modding videos on headphones on youtube and either im looking at the wrong places but I'm surprised that this part of the hobbby is a smaller than i expected. But maybe thats just cause coming from the switch and keyboard modding scene n that I've got the wrong expectations. Regardless, keep up the awesome content. Thanks jason
Hi Jason, thanks for your work in sharing your knowledge of how all these cans work... ok, let the hustle begin!... My cousin's friend kindly gave me an Ableton Live controller after I he had asked me for help with something. He needed to re-record some dialogue from a TV show for a track he was making, as it was obviously unrealistic to get sample clearance(!) He asked me, and I did it earlier this year. It was a cool process, just to be a small part of. Now I have not only ticked off a bucket list item, but also started down the path of music production. I don't currently have any headphones to work at this kind of high fidelity standard. If i'd be lucky enough to get a pair, I think I would get a lot of fun using them to get into a momentum of creating music, as well as just listening for enjoyment of course. I mean i'm not superstitious, but they say good things come in threes. Thinking about it, the controller, along with - not a monophone but rather - a pair of headphones.... 1+2=3. You will be bringing order to the universe, yes! Finally, not to "kitchen sink it" but..... my best friend is called Jason (seriously), and not shy to provide literal documentary evidence of this... that is of course, assuming you are interested to dabble with... nepotism I guess? Cheers!
Thanks for the video. Of course I would love the Headphone! looks beautiful. I was lucky recently to find a very cheap original HE400 - they sounded good BUT I had an old 1990's Sharwood amp from years ago that Ive never used as I tend to use IEMs, and plugged my DAP into it. Honestly I could not believe how much of a difference it made. Like a mid tier to top tier sound difference. Point being planars enjoy a good amount of power which Im sure we all know here :) but more importantly, (If I may be so bold as to plead with ya'al) where ever possible always seek different synergys with your signal flows - It only takes one [less-than-perfect component in your audio chain to knacker the end sound! ;) Its amazed me over the years how sometimes there is a gem hidden inside headphones that sometimes need a bit of time to get to - different source, pads, cables etc etc (Ive heard of this company called 'Bustin Mams'? Something like that? who do superb cables...maybe you heard of them? - should be easy enough to find )
@@CustomCans It never ceases to impress me the amount of incredible quality that came out of the 1990's - Sennhesier HD 540 / HD 250. Beyerdynamic DT 880 600ohm - even the 1980's Beyer DT770 is WAY better than the modern versions - much more natural and linear AKG Sextett etc etc
Trying to increase my listening quality, I bought the open back Sundara a month ago and I'm blown away by the detail. I'd love the closed backs to complement the bass, have another great reference, and record vocals on my little-more-or-less-homestudio! Haha. Good luck everyone!!
I would love to win these headphones. I have recently built some beyerdynamic dt770pro with a internal mic. You supplied me with the cable and tuning kit. I have the headphone bug now, my partner as well, so definitely need another set to keep her happy 😂
I do indeed have the bug. Very Impressed with the new cable and particularly the attention to detail. My dt770pro caught the eye of many fascinated gamers when I attended insomnia gaming festival.
I dove head first into the audiophile/headphone world and I've been really enjoying your modding projects. You are The Shoe Surgeon of headphones. The Headphone Surgeon! Thanks for the early review, I have been considering purchasing the open-back Sundara for quite some time (for studio/piano/general listening purposes). The closed-back version could be more suited for the loud city environment I am living in, but I am going to ponder on the graphs and your comments a little more. Cheers!
Excellent video! I currently own the open back Sundara and love it. Really need to get the closed back since my wife keeps yelling at me to turn the volume down because it’s distracting her! 😂
No sob story round here guys, but I'd absolutely love to suprise my partner with a Sandara set.. he's working and trying so hard at the minute with his music production and im so proud of his input, love & passion to the music industry even with all the hurdles of it all.. he's an old skool DJ so his passion for his technics 1210s are something else haha.. so a beautiful set of decent headphones would after all these 27 years compliment his ability even more so ❣️ We love the content and love browsing your customs.. I'd love to have my limited edition sennhieser 25s done when I win the lottery 🤣🎵🎶 Xx
I rather recently got into the audio space and even more recently found your channel with a video on the HD660S as I wanted to see how it compared to the HD600 internally and you seem to be one of the few channels who focus on this type of content. The first thing I knew after getting into things is that I needed to upgrade from my Razer Krakens but being new I had little knowledge at the time so I went on a mad youtube and forum research spree for months until I had learnt enough to find myself making the decision to sell all my unused valuables and buy myself an open back Sundara. The day after they were ordered the closed backs were announced but I didn't mind as I learned that open backs provide alot of benefits which I valued over isolation at the time. I ended up not being able to afford the jds labs atom stack to pair these with due to money issues, so for now I'm running them off of motherboard audio which is a noticeable inconvenience but for now I don't mind too much as these still are the best sounding transducer I have ever heard. The higher efficiency of the closed back would have been convenient for me, along with the isolation given I live in an 11 person household, so if these were the same price and had existed at the time I may have gotten the closed pair instead but I got a bit unlucky. I'm contempt not doing anything for now as I have no way of getting the funding to do so, so I just mentally gave up on the idea and am settling for this until I can get the funding, which I plan to do whenever the opportunity arises. But, if I did get these, I wouldn't keep it as having both Sundaras is rather wasteful. I would just enjoy it for a few weeks or so then give it to my friend who owns nothing apart from the infamous m50x and recently I shipped down a Moondrop Chu iem for him which is still a technical performance improvement over the m50x for $20 according to him. He would benefit from these way more than me with his situation being him wanting a wide stage closed back that does not need amplification, and is fine with using EQ so the tonality issues on this would be solved. It is very inconvenient having no amplification being in a noisy household but that inconvenience is not comparable to having only a m50x and being aware that audio gets so much better even without raising the price. Your channel is really helpful in learning more about this hobby and I will continue to watch it either for passing entertainment or for learning about headphones I am interested in myself. Hope you find larger growth in your immediate future as this channel to me is better than a lot of the larger ones. Regardless of who win, you are a great person for helping any random single person have a new brilliant headphone for free especially considering that at the size that you are, this isn't paying for itself in promotion like with the larger channels' giveaways who do them purely as a business decision and typically have a sponsorship with another company so they they aren't paying for it themselves. Cheers.
Honestly I love the hifi Sundara I'm a bass fan and have a zen dac v2 to test it out abit better so I would love a pair. Your you tube channel is the ultimate guide for headphones compared to all channels I've watched very descriptive on the headphones and how it coexists with your ears hence my ears one day🙃 And look it's either you be more aware around traffic with your headphones on or you can change your will under my name I could do with a few of your headphones 😜
Obviously I want to win the give away. I've recently been intrigued by headphones and I've been looking at your dt770s. If I'm not chosen good advice will be very appreciated.
Found your review after deciding to start looking into a good pair of headphones and sound setup for my desk. Came down with covid and am about to binge your channel. I would love to win those gnarly headphones to start my audio loving journey!
I would definitely love to get my hands on them. I haven't tried to modify planers yet so love to try that, also to see if i could flatten out that uneven graph a bit. So far i have mostly been messing about with various Grado headphones and the Creative labs Cal SE's which are a brilliant headphone for the price. I really is a different experience listening to something you have had a hand in making, there is a certain pride in it. Also thanks for the tips on modifying headphones I've gotten from you for the past year or so.
I would love the give away Sunderas. I've always owned open-back headphones but I never had a closed-back. The way you described how they are with the speed, accuracy and details sounds exciting! I love gold so the gold finish will be a warm welcome. I'd would like to take them wherever I'd like and listen to them comfortably while I study at cafes isolated from the noises there :)
I pulled them apart in the previous video if you fancy checking it out - they are totally different to the open backs ruclips.net/video/su4-Kx9mIaQ/видео.html
Amazing video, first of all. You really went all out on these! No dogs exploding or anything but man, the cable is so overkill I'd enter a giveaway just for that. Other than that, well, I'd really like to thank you for the helpful content you have made on this channel. Did the DT770 cable mod + weights this summer and it was so easy thanks to the step-by-step guide. So, a big thanks.
@@CustomCans It's a nice design and fairly easy to deal with but still, removing the ifs and buts really helped. And finally ended the misery of having meters of cable on the floor
This was really awesome review, loved it! also excited for giveaway as i have m50x and want to try something high end like sundara. fingers crossed! Also in your next video if possible please compare the bass with any comparable audeze headphone. I laughed so hard when u said dog exploded lol.
Unfortunately I have just spent £15000 on stock for the run up to xmas so could not afford any audezes.. But I will see if I can borrow some for a comparison. No promises but I will see what I can rustle up
I'd like to have the Sundara closed back! Gonna use them to listen to music, game, voice call and play guitar (even tho I'm still beginning...) wanting to start a band with a friend of mine 😁. Since I'm still young I'll have the full hearing advantage! Really nice to see that it's portable, since I move places very often... And it's a hassle to take my 400se with the amp and dac every week. saving up for a portable ampdac tho, any (cheap-ish > under 50 but if it's significantly better I don't mind going over budget) suggestions?
I am not an expert on budget amps but I used to have a little fiio amp that did the job nicely - they seem to have a good value for money range. Or if you are good at soldering, you can pick up some good DIY amp kits for sensible money
@@CustomCans I'll check fiio out, thanks! Unfortunately I'm not good at soldering... Nor do I have enough knowledge to do stuff like that, sadly. Trying doesn't hurt tho :) Am also watching your 400se series since I really wanna (hopefully) improve the performance and colors of the headphones! (I'm new to the audio(phile) world, but I'm really interested and I want to learn badly :] Thanks for the suggestion tho!
If you're going to EQ the CB for sparkle and tame the midrange, OB Sundara that is EQed to bring up the bass seems like a better way to go. With that being said, I'd enjoy winning these as I only buy headphones every 5 years. Keeps me off the hype train and lets me enjoy the investment before buying the "latest, greatest". Current phones are Sundara 2020 OB, AKG K712 Pro, and AKG Q701. Rotate them every 2 weeks so nothing gets boring. Favorites are the AKG K712 Pro. However, if I were to win the CB Sundara's, I think they'd be different enough from the others that I would enjoy the change when it was their turn in the rotation.
Yes - the open sudaras with more bass would be better but there are times when closed backed is the way to go. I will have to have a proper play with both and see what I can do
Hey, These Sundara Closed backs look great, great work 👍, I've been using Hifimans quite some time. Lately a pair of Hifiman Edition X V2, A Closed back option would be very useful! And the Sundaras would fill the spot great. You're take on headphone sound is nice to hear.
I would really like to get them. A closed back planar would make a great addition to my humble collection. I'd use them as a preparation to become a parent one they, for they will experience love and shelter. I will embrace them multiple times a day and reassure them, that my love for them is unconditional and eternal. Maybe I won't even feel the desire to become a parent after owning these. Maybe they can fill the void that is in my heart. Anyways, great content. As an owner of a pair of HE400SEs, I really enjoyed your modding series about them. Take care!
I don't know if they will fill the void but they will certainly be easier to look after than a child and they won't wake you up multiple times in the night during the 1st year of ownership ;)
Hi Jason, could you test how the OB Sundaras behave with a tube amp? You keep hearing that planar headphones and tubes don't go well together... or I'll be lucky and be able to try it myself in a couple of weeks and justify myself to my girlfriend why the hell I have gold headphones and she doesn't have a ring yet. Keep up the good work and greetings to the whole team.
I’ve been waiting for Japan to open up for foreigners again, in order to see my mom in Tokyo. Wearing these cans on the packed trains over there would be great PR for your company😎🤩
Hello hello, I remember when I first saw your videos, I loved how you not only talked about the frequency response, build, etc., but you also disassembled headphones to compare the pieces to other headphones. Seeing the inner components added something that felt "objective" in a very subjective hobby, and it felt like such a nice change from a lot of headphone videos I've watched. Also, big fan of how the copper modded HD600's looked and how you responded to people in comments who made it sound like you were committing an audiophile sin by modding HD600's. I would love to obtain your custom Sundara's! What I'd do with the headphones if I got them... pff shoot I dunno, stare at them for a while? But I will definitely compare them to the Shure SRH840A's that I've been daily driving for a few months. Thank you for your advice on ear cleaning for a better headphone listening experience, and please continue to tear apart headphones for people like me who don't have the courage or skillset to do so.
I have tried the open sundara, and I'm still fascinated by the sound, I want this closed sundara too, if it can be obtained for free, yes I want to have it
I would love to give those custom Sundaras to my Wife. She is an archeology nerd with a massive obsession with the Mayan sites. We spend our vacations just outside of Akamal and most days we are tooling around Ik Balam or Coba. The Mayan calendar that you decaled on would make these her favorite immediately.
I'm a noob to the hobby and google decided I might like your channel. I'll be honest I don't understand most of what you're going on about but I'm interested to learn and a pair of shiny custom cans could be just the thing to send me all the way down what's looking to be a very deep rabbit hole...
Amazing paintjob! I love handmade paintjobs. At the moment i am using an Open Alpha T50 mod when going on a train. They look a little outdated and very heavy with 500 gramms and i am searching for a long time for some eyecandy and not the usual stuff. I would be very happy to win this awesome headphone 😊 Thank you!
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We gotta get you another measurement rig my guy. MiniDSP ears is cursed.
We are on a super tight budget so that and an EMC8000 testing mic is about all we can afford at the moment. They are OK for A/B comparisons but, yes, not ideal. I think I will leave that to you for the time being until we start making some real money ;)
@@CustomCans I hear ya. Well bright side is it can actually be cheaper than a miniDSP ears for an IEC ear simulator.
Give me a shout if you ever wanna go that route.
@@DMS3TV That sounds interesting, any advice on parts to build our own would be greatly appreciated. Or... if you have some good ideas for building a sensibly priced testing rig, We have a decent workshop and a team of product designers and makers if you fancy doing a colab on something
@@CustomCans sure thing. Shoot me an email or give me a shout on Twitter. Happy to help.
This thread is an example of how it's done and why audio people are awesomerer sauce.
What you do here is genuinely amazing. Your channel have a bright future.
Thanks - I hope so ;) although there probably not that many more people who are into this kind of thing ;)
that shiny golden ear protection is exactly what im looking for to wear to work, because i was told last week that i cant keep using power tools without ppe. my boss has been on my case for a while and i keep telling him i will get them once someone does an online giveaway and realizes I'm the greatest man on earth. and here you are. your donation to my health and safety will be appreciated friend. you will have saved my from industrial deafness, so i can instead get the hearing loss i deserve from the headphones.
lol .. Good luck ;)
Just considering first steps into headphones... This would be a sweet surprise :)
Good luck ;)
I've been teetering on getting a pair of enthusiast headphones for years now. Would definitely listen to more music, even more often. My life has been on the up and up, and the past 6 months of my life has been a breath of fresh air. Finally have a job where I have some comfort and sustainability. Recently found your vids after doing more research on headphones. Definitely here to stay. I would be over the moon if I won these headphones....but either way, I wanna dive more into the audio-sphere, and will definitely be watching you for a long time to come.
Welcome aboard. Good Luck in the comp
Greetings from Canada! I just recently discovered your channel as I’ve been researching my next acquisition and I’m quite interested in trying some planers. I really enjoy your deconstruction process you have great insight and curiosity about the whichness of why on how these phones all sound. Thanks!
I’d really enjoy these and most importantly, I just realized my wife has caught up with me in number of headphones, which will never do! Lol.
All joking aside thanks for putting your videos out. I really enjoy them.
Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it and good luck in the comp
Would love these. I am relatively new to the audiophile hobby, I am already hooked, spent too much money and struggling to justify any of this to friends, family and at times myself. Love it.
It is always tricky to know when to stop ;)
Quite new to the audio community but just found your channel not too long ago when looking up how to do a detachable cable mod on my 990's. Your channel has inspired the tinkerer inside me to start doing projects again. But to be honest a little too scared to attempt the detachable cable on my own, so I plan on buying one of your send in services as an early birthday present to myself!
On a similar note I bought the DT990 premiums last year instead of the pros and would love to see it torn down on channel as well as your thoughts on the differences in sound, because the inner earcup seems quite a bit different for the premiums and would like to hear your opinions.
Thank you for making such great informative content. I can dream of winning but regardless I hope these cans go to a good home!
Yes, I must get a pair in to have a play with at some point. We order beyer stock 3 months in advance so I won't be able to get some until Xmas now but I will try to get some then
@@CustomCans I plan on sending them in within the next week or so, feel free to tinker around and use them for a video if you want!
I want them, need a closed back in my collection, but I find it impossible to tell a better joke than 1266s sounding right ;-).
Cheers mate, love your guides on midifying cans, keep up the good work!
Thanks and good luck ;)
I bought the Sundaras closed backs few days ago. Yes, their mid range is forward and out of the box they sound a bit shouty, but after I EQ'd them they sounded really good to my ears. Really happy with this purchase 🥳
We did end up making a physical mod as well
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@@CustomCans Nice one! I did order a pair of the pad adapter rings.
What EQ settings do u recommend? Thnx
@@chrisp9724 It realy depends on the source and the users ears... With my old Ifi Zen Can/Zen Dac Signature V2 setup I had to scoop out the mids with -2db from 400 to 4000hz, also boost the bass quite a bit, I am kind of a bass head lol. Now on my Aune S9c Pro DAC/Amp I am only boosting the bass and not touching anything else, on this DAC/Amp the midrange sound really good to my ears. It is interesting that I am EQ'ing more my Edition XS than the Sundara CB headphones though.
I'm honestly equally excited about the cable, would love to see what it can do to some high-end cans.
And hey, if it's not an improvement, it'd be an amazing strap for my hipster tote bag. Can't let all that work go to waste
Lol ;)
it will definitely transmit sound
Hi man, I've followed some of your he400 se mod videos, but didn't subscribe until now. I'd love to win these headphones. I loved the Sundara when I had a pair, but I sold them looking for something closed back. Haven't pulled the trigger on anything, but having a closed back Sundara to keep the dementors away while listening would be phenomenal. Also, they look trés chique, certain to impress my coworkers. 😉
Welcome aboard and good luck in the comp
Hello, first time watching the live.
I may need a closed back now that life is changing, I would love to get this famous fusion of the both.
Anyway it was nice chatting, and good luck everyone.
I am super embarrassed to say that I got caught up in something and missed the live premier. Good luck to you too sir
Hearing you say that you're going to be ripping out the tuning, to see what does what, makes you sound like a mad scientist. "I wonder what this bit does?" and then you rip it out, potentially permanently damaging them, just to see how it changes the sound.
Love the content, and yeah I want em.
The best way to learn is always to break something and then figure out how to fix it...
Great review, you are better at describing sound than you give yourself credit. I've been using the OPPO PM-3 for 6 years now as my portable closed back, the leather looks like it's gotten in a fight with a wolverine, she's beyond ready for retirement haha. I'd give it away but the receiver would have to be as good as you at refurbishing/modding headphones. It does hold a special place in my heart though, being the first closed-back planar ever, and it's now discontinued. I'll put it in my museum if nothing else.
If you can hold on until around march, we could probably book them in for a refurb
@@CustomCans I'll keep that in mind for sure.
Love learning about the new closed back Sundara from your 2 reviews. Seems that Hifiman did improve a bit in term of build quality from your previous video. Love these type of videos that provide lot of new information. I would love to have a chance to win the give away (for once) and heard the headphones myself. Thank you.
Thanks ;)
hey, it's probably to late to enter the competition, but I still wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your videos. For one, they seem really honest and direct from the chest and you are clearly enjoying tinkering with cans. I watch your videos mainly because of your joy and excitment and I hope you can grow your channel and business this way. Having just bought the open Sundaras a month ago, I can't justify buying a new set of closed ones to my wife... On the other hand I do fancy an upgrade from my DT770. Life ain't easy...
best wishes, BT
We do have dome mods for the 770 to squeeze a bit more out of them ;)
Mods seems fun, been interested to start my own modding since i bought a modded dt880 from the used market. but the fear of ruining the headphone is holding me back. I hope to complete a headphone mod of my own one day. Cheers anyway your videos are great.
Yes - it is a bit scary the first time. Even though my team and I have a lot of experience, we still break things some times
I like to listen to classical music on my open back Sundaras when I'm sober, but I would love to listen to good techno music on the closed back Sundaras when I'm wasted ;)
Thanks for the nice vid!
Lol ;)
I have used Audeze's Penrose for over a year. They're also closed planars but with an integrated DAC. Even the input jack is reprocessed by it. As a newbie to planar headphones, they've impressed me with their detailed upper mids. I consider replacing them though because of their internal DAC and the uncomfortable headband, despite their low weight. I'm curious what thoughts went into the two different headband approaches of HiFiMan. So if the giveaway is still open, I certainly would appreciate the chance. Great job with these golden ones btw.
I think you are just in time - we should be choosing comments today ;)
Been using Dt 990 Pro´s forever and they just died recently. I´m going to repair them, but the measurements you did in this video def. make me wanna shop around for possible alternatives. I would love these one off´s for when I produce and edit music for my dj´sets. I´m especially curious about the clarity/seperation on these and the low end. A closed pair would really make my wife much happier as i tend to turn up the volume a bit much ;o)
We can probably repair and upgrade your 990s so they sound even better if you are in the UK.
Good luck in the comp
@@CustomCans Im located in Denmark :/
I work with young people In a care home and always go on about how much I love headphones. But I can never actually afford a good pair so I would love to waltz into work with these bad boys on and show them that I’ve finally made it in life. This isn’t a sob story but I would love to show these bad boys off I would wear them walking about the streets. If anybody asks then custom cans sorted me out . Love the channel.
You will definitely get noticed walking the streets in these .. Good luck
@@CustomCans thanks mate love these videos so much . I’m not technical at all but these break downs are so fascinating to me. Keep up the good work.
But...but....what if my dog ACTUALLY exploded? I hope you actually haven't gotten comments like that lol. The headphones look absolutely GORGEOUS as hell, really adore the artistry and work that was put into them. They dont look gaudy or tacky at all. The cable on them as well look gorgeous too! Reminds me a bit of what Pagan Min from Far Cry 4 would wear, and that's not an insult! Definitely have that kind of vibe going about them. I definitely want em that's for sure. I'm also very surprised NO ONE has reviewed the closed version. Would have expected there to be coverage of it from all sorts of reviewers.
Luckily we have minimal canine explosions in the comments so far - good luck ;)
@@CustomCans Lol, thankfully! And thank you ^^
I love that the only requirement for the giveaway is a positive comment, preferably something that makes you laugh. Well, I've got a story to tell. Back in the day, one of my friends purchased a Audio Technica AD900, this was back around 2007 when PC enthusiasts were using soundcards because external dacs/amps had issues with PC's and motherboard audio was horrendous back then even for low impedance headphones. This friend of mine back then would buy one soundcard after another. He tried the Audigy, then X-Fi, then the Auzen X-fi Prelude (which was one of the best options back then), and another company that was popular back then (I forgot what it was called) and every time he kept saying he doesn't hear a difference! And the AD900's suck! Well by today's standards there are better options, but back then they were a massive upgrade over your usual gaming headphones. Anyway. I ended up visiting his place just to see that the entire time he was plugging the headphones into the front IO of his PC case, even though he was buying and changing soundcards 🤣😂🤣
Lol... I used to be a PC technician in the olden days so came accross that kind of thing a lot. My favourite one was when a customer rang up and complained that the cup holder kept going back in by it's self and spilling drinks... 10 mins later we established that it was a CD ROM drive and not a cup holder
@@CustomCans oh my God 😂😂 I done a bit of technician work towards the end of high school in the mid-2000's too but never came across that one. Cup holder lol
@@CustomCans haha, I have had the same job and seen the same thing! I also had a Doctor who paid £380 on a callout because they couldn't find the off button, which was right on the front with on/off written above it. I also had a man who covered his monitor in tin foil to stop the demons getting out. When you deal with the public, stories are often made.
I certainly would love to win these Sundara closed back. I have the open backs, the more recent revision, and just bought an amplifier that really scales them. First thing that caught my eye with your headphones is that you put a Mexica (Aztec) Sun Stone decal on them. As a Mexican, I say to you: nice touch! The other day I tried using the Sundaras as monitors whilst playing with my band. I kept telling the guitar player: louder mate, louder! I couldn’t hear the click or midi tracks. Eventually, the vocalist takes them off my head, puts them on, has the guitarist play back the midi and he literally fell on his bum. He looks at me and says: these sound great, but put on your iems and get to playing, not time to listen to music. Thanks for your videos and reviews. Have a good one, cheers!
Yes, the closed back would be much better for monitoring ;)
I was going to get a pair of the Sundara's as my first pair of hi-fi headphones for my birthday because I love the idea of Planar technology and want to know what "beautiful" sounds like 😂. Then I heard these were coming out and have been waiting for a good measurement of em to know if I'd be better off with these or my first choice.
Finding out that they are mobile friendly and have incredible bass extension is amazing since I listen to a lot of house and instrumental music while working or reading. So now I'm leaning way more towards these as an everyday driver to replace my NC 700s, especially if the isolation is good enough to almost get you run over 😂. I don't know what mid forwardness sounds like but most of my music listening doesn't include vocals since the words distract me. But I also feel like these would be a great pair to experiment with EQ-ing, leaving a lot of room for me to explore the hobby.
However I'd still love to own the open Sundaras since I was drawn to them for how much they represented the clean neutral sound of hi-fi the reviews I've seen were talking about, and motive me more to explore good amps and DACs as well 😅.
Winning these would mean I can still get them for my birthday and have both as you recommended 😅. I'd also get to compare closed Vs open back hi-fi a lot earlier, as I planned to do that if I ever got the DCA Aeon Noir in the future (the folding arms had me sold immediately). If not though, you've still made a great case for these for me so I'll flip my upgrade path in reverse and try a mobile friendly closed back before diving deeper into open back hi-fi maybe with the edition XS, Ananda or just the HE400's as an affordable gateway. Thanks ☺️
I think, if I could only have one or the other I would go with the open backs but they both have their charms ... Hopefully I can convince my team to let me get some eddtion XS and Anadas in next month... good luck. J
Would love these mate. I'll probably just sit around drinking beer listening to music. That's pretty much what I do now anyway. Keep up the good work.
Sounds like the good life ;)
A new pair of headphones is ALWAYS needed! I'm interested to see what the experience is like as someone who's only used Beyer cans. Also, a video going over cable braiding would be sick - I'm looking at modding my 770s to take a mini xlr connection and making some custom braided cables, but I've no idea how different braids affect cable length...
A few years back I really got into planar magnetic headphones, and from there, just stuck with them. After running around with planars, I decided to try open back headphones, so I picked up a pair of Hifiman Sundaras Open back. I realized, my environment can be noisy at times, and it can be hard to hear in noisy environments. After seeing your video introducing a closed-back pair I thought it would be perfect to use in those situations. Sundaras are always better in pairs, and mine would love to have yours as its partner.
Would love to hear them on my SMSL SU9. Fingers crossed!
P.S. You said to make you laugh; so here's a joke to go with my comment. What was the energizer bunny arrested for? He was arrested on a charge of battery.
Hope it helps!
Lol... Good luck in the comp
Well boy did I learn an amazing amount from your videos on headphones. Looking to massively upgrade the sound of my music and got an iFi hipdoc2, needed some quality headphones (to move up from the Sony WH-1000XM4's) and was recommended the upcoming Sundara Closed Backs in Australia, but not out here yet (we seem to be the last to get new stuff, clearly!!) so did the research, and learned a huge amount from you, thank you!!! Would I like to win, heck yes, and I love the design you developed on the headphone cups, sort of Incan/Buddhist mandala, very cool.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the videos and good luck in the comp
@@CustomCans Thank you, I wish me luck in the comp too, but hey, even if I don't win, I still value your vlog. It is very interesting to learn from. I use some of the ways you describe sound to become more aware of what I should be listening out for and to start to understand the way to break down the different aspects of the sound. Thank you. James
Yes....that looks awesome.. I'm a modder myself but I use CNC to do some custom grilles for LCD series and Hifiman Eggshapes... My current favorite finishes are black chrome and 24k gold plated.
Great to change a muted design to a lively cans. Absolutely worth the effort. Once again great works from you. Appreciate your sharing on how you did it. 👍🏻 Cheers.
I would love a CNC mill ... at the moment our workshop is above an estate agents so we don't want to annoy them with the sound but if we move it is going on the list of new toys
@@CustomCans hope 1 day you will have it, im sure you'll get something great out of it. Enjoy!!
If I win these cans I'll be sure to make a click baity video: gold Sundaras vs regular Sundaras, cork sniffin' if gold makes them sound more sparkly
Love the channel, keep up the good work!
Lol.. I should have done that video ;)
I'd love those cans! *insert story here about how my life is terrible due to losing my job/pets/house/relatives (pick your favourite) and everything would be fixed if I got some fancy gold headphones for free*
But seriously, those Sundaras look awesome. I haven't tried any planars before and I want to hear whatever it is that apparently makes planars so good. Been running with my AKG K371s for a couple years and I love them but I'd also love to be able to switch it up a bit without creating a sinkhole in my wallet :p
My hobbies are Cars, Headphones and computers.. My wallet is more sinkhole than wallet now... I feel your pain. Good luck
Jason the Gray has spoken! His magic words influence the custom headphone community on a daily basis! Thank you for your not-so-precise description of these wooden beauties!
No Problem ;) Thatnks
O.M.G, I've been living for almost 40 years and this is the very first time I see a cable that looks like a piece of silk, really don't know how they will sound. Btw, love the closed back design
Thanks
Thanks for comparing measurement graphs and speaking about it. It was a straightforward and not deceiving part. I liked it. Need to listen again for mine HiFiMan X4 and listen to your video again)
Glad it was helpful!
@@CustomCans yes, it was at best. I am looking for a better headphones and you did a lot of comparable a!
Hey!
I kinda do what you said at the end of the video haha. I team up with young musicians and we get in touch with (sorry, I don't know the word in English but) the people who work with the mayor of different towns here in my country and we teach youngsters how to make their own instruments, how to make music and finally, have it properly recorded (the least controlable factor is acoustics but everything is truly "Do what you can, you'll get better"). Each step from a PBC to a DAW is briefly covered!
Oh, I know this channel for a while now but these last few days I've looped your Beyer vids cause I got a broken DT860 and I'm having too much fun repairing/modding it!
Sounds like awesome work. Also.. glad the vids have been useful
Hi Jason! To be honest I just want to take part on the giveaway to get your new cable (from your last video) for my focal clear :D
Well.... Luckily the hifiman and focals both take the same kind of connection .... Good luck ;)
I'd love to have a set of these as I've become obsessed with looking for new details in old favourites - I'd also love to see if I can hear any magic coming through your fancy cables!
Yes it is always good when you can hear new things in tracks you did not hear before
An interesting review. Thankyou..
I have a pair of DT1990, but I found that they are not the best when used in a hospital bed. Too many requests...
I was contemplating a pair of DT1770 or DT177x to resolve the issue, but now I have the Closed-Back Sundara's to consider as well.
Well done with the custom artwork. The results would look good in pride of place in my loungeroom...
I look forward to seeing future projects....
I am pretty certain the 1990 and 1770 have the same driver - if you are feeling brave, you could open up the 1990 and plug up all the holes on the inside with plasticine or something and pretty much end up with some 1770s
Love your down to earth comparision. Very intersting take on the Closed-back Sundura. Would love to own one sometimes in the future. Thanks for the awesome info.
Thanks :)
I want em mostly because the Sundara was my long time love and I finally got my hands on them, but unfortunately couldn't hold on to them for long because I didn't have a good enough amp. Now I've upgraded and am excited to not only come back to a long lost love, but also to an unique model *French kiss*
Good luck in the comp ;)
I would love these! I'm going to pick up my first amp/dac stack this week, so this would be the icing on the 🍰.
They do respond well to being amped
@@CustomCans I'm going to be honest. I haven't seen your channel before this video. Last 2 years I've became obsessed with audio/music. I've looked around your channel and it's really something else man haha. It looks like another thing I've looked at which is custom sneakers.
Those are beautiful. If I dont win this, I might ask how much you would sell another one for if you would do it again.
They would be in the region of £500 for a custom designed pair
Thanks for the great 2 part review. I found your channel looking for a review of this very headphone and now I'm a subscriber a looking forward to more reviews. I would like to win the Sundara closedbacks so I can walk around sparking joy in peoples lives with the great look you guys have added to the headphones.
Thanks and welcome aboard
I just want the headphones mate, I've been looking for a decent pair of closed backs and since these have decent isolation I wouldn't mind a pair. Doubt I'd take em to school or anything but I'd use em out and about, plus the cable is really nice so 🤷♂️
Cheers!
Thanks ... Good luck
Your artwork on the Sundara Closed is very classy, and the cables are The Chefs Kiss!
I would love to show them off around the city (Philadelphia)!
Love your designs!
One LOVE!
Cheers!!
Philidelphia... I suspect that ... On the playground was where you spent most of your days.
Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin', all cool
And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school
@@CustomCans yup, but no smacking the comedian at the awards banquet... lol.
The Sundara alwayes looked awesome imo, and then u slapped 24 karat gold on them, thats baller. I would love these since I cant use open back headphones bc I would annoy everyone I live with and the sundara seems like a great pair of headphones!
Thanks and good luck in the comp
Wow, you went all out to create some amazing looking headphones !!!! Very good idea and the result is beautiful !! Would love to use them to upgrade my sound !
Thanks and good luck
Huge fan of Custom Cans, loved my modded DT990 from you! Interested to try the closed back Sundara as I never fully got the hype behind the open backs and wonder how these compare!
They would be a good pairing as they are very different, I suspect you would hear totally different things swapping between 990s and these... good luck
I would love to get a pair of closed back sundara's. I love my Arias but I struggle with in-ears sometimes.
I know what you mean ... Good luck
Really interested to get one of these! I'm currently appaled by hifiman qc on my edition xs when the unit I got had rattle on the right side. Even before the rattle, I felt like the advertised "bass" was not really there; even the sundara open back new revision had more bass impact. I hope these sundara closed edition will scratch the itch of the basshead junkie I am!
I am sure they would .... Good luck
I like the mods on this channel very much, and demonstrators don't hesitate to share the transformation process and results with everyone. It is beneficial for fans who are interested in DIY!
I have an original SUNDARA, I like its sound very much, I don't know if the new version will suit my appetite :)
Thanks ;)
Never tried a hifi closed back nor planar headphones but I would love to ! The cable also makes the set look quite exciting. Loving the stuff you guys doing !
Thanks ;)
always enjoy your moding. I tried mod with my 58x removing foam, changing cables and so on improves its clarity, soundstage and bass slam.
Haven't tried any planer so far. Liked your 400se mod looks amazing. I think big headphone manufacture should hire you.
Lol... I am pretty if someone paid me to do it, it would stop being fun ;)
Bring on the bling...great work, hard to find good closed backs...
Thanks ;)
Hi, I thought I would brighten up your Monday morning👍
I actually do miss the dog, I used to insert my headphone jack into its rear receptacle and listen to the radio.
Apparently, the breed is very hard to find so I would appreciate if you could also keep an eye out for any Golden Receivers in your area 😉
Lol ;) Thanks for the morning smiles :) Good luck in the comp
Sick video bossman, would love to try these for myself and compare them to my regular sundaras
Thanks and good luck
I'd love to have those in my collection!
Here is a funny story for you, I got into this audio hobby a while ago, I'm 23 now but I want to say I started at about 13 years old with very cheap headphones, and IEM, anyways, I decided to finally get a nice pair of headphones, so I decided to go for the HD25-ii-1, and after months of saving I finally got them, I was of course blown away but my parents where extremely doubtful and non approving of me spending months of savings on a pair of headphones, and after I tried to convince them my dad said he wanted to listen what it was all about, but that same day my right speaker stoped working after just a few days of use, of course I felt like crying lol, so I went into RUclips and found one of your videos about fixing the lose connection, which saved me from being totally schooled by my parents, he loved the sound at the end, keep up the amazing work!
The HD25 do give good bang for the buck. Good luck
i want to see these paired with a jot2, sounds like they would pair great together, both are warm, forward, and bass/detail centric with slight not as wide soundstage from what i've heard
Good luck in the comp
Thank you for your excellent contribution to the audiophile community.
No problem
Great review strange I was looking at the closed back Sundaras a few weeks ago and was waiting for a good review . I bought the Sennheiser hd 6xx mod kit from you ,fantastic difference in sound thanks all the best.
Thanks - glad you enjoyed the mod
@@CustomCans thanks hope to shop with you soon thanks 👍
Hi, love your laid back approach I feel chilled but entertaingly informed. I'm new to the hi-res audio file scene and enjoying every moment. My feeble attempt at a Joke "What's the difference between a Cat and a Comma? A Cat has claws at the end of his paws; A Comma is a Pause at the end of a Clause".
Lol ... Good luck in the comp ;)
I'm new to audio world so this is super interesting. Looks like a good reason to learn about EQ and experiment with the tuning. Also super interested and appreciate when the headphone has that personal touch from another person's craftsmanship
Good Luck ;)
Hello! I recently found this channel due to my interest in the Sundara closed back.
I was also interested in seeing the changes they did to make it closed back but there’s no way this guy would take it apart!
I like how you approach your headphones!
Thanks ;)
would be very cool to get them of course.
Really have been loving your videos especially the modding stuff since I really love tinkering with stuff and modding my headphones if i can to try to improve them since it's really a pleasure. That clip in waveguide mod on the he400se that you haven't released made me make my own for my pair of OG he400 s i had found, works wonders. Your really the only person making modding videos on headphones on youtube and either im looking at the wrong places but I'm surprised that this part of the hobbby is a smaller than i expected. But maybe thats just cause coming from the switch and keyboard modding scene n that I've got the wrong expectations.
Regardless, keep up the awesome content. Thanks jason
I really should finish off the HE400 mods and get them out... I am really good at starting projects ... not so good at finishing them ;)
Hi Jason, thanks for your work in sharing your knowledge of how all these cans work... ok, let the hustle begin!...
My cousin's friend kindly gave me an Ableton Live controller after I he had asked me for help with something. He needed to re-record some dialogue from a TV show for a track he was making, as it was obviously unrealistic to get sample clearance(!) He asked me, and I did it earlier this year. It was a cool process, just to be a small part of. Now I have not only ticked off a bucket list item, but also started down the path of music production. I don't currently have any headphones to work at this kind of high fidelity standard. If i'd be lucky enough to get a pair, I think I would get a lot of fun using them to get into a momentum of creating music, as well as just listening for enjoyment of course. I mean i'm not superstitious, but they say good things come in threes. Thinking about it, the controller, along with - not a monophone but rather - a pair of headphones.... 1+2=3. You will be bringing order to the universe, yes! Finally, not to "kitchen sink it" but..... my best friend is called Jason (seriously), and not shy to provide literal documentary evidence of this... that is of course, assuming you are interested to dabble with... nepotism I guess? Cheers!
Thanks for the video. Of course I would love the Headphone! looks beautiful.
I was lucky recently to find a very cheap original HE400 - they sounded good BUT I had an old 1990's Sharwood amp from years ago that Ive never used as I tend to use IEMs, and plugged my DAP into it. Honestly I could not believe how much of a difference it made. Like a mid tier to top tier sound difference. Point being planars enjoy a good amount of power which Im sure we all know here :) but more importantly,
(If I may be so bold as to plead with ya'al) where ever possible always seek different synergys with your signal flows - It only takes one [less-than-perfect component in your audio chain to knacker the end sound! ;)
Its amazed me over the years how sometimes there is a gem hidden inside headphones that sometimes need a bit of time to get to - different source, pads, cables etc etc (Ive heard of this company called 'Bustin Mams'? Something like that? who do superb cables...maybe you heard of them? - should be easy enough to find )
Yes .. they do need a good chunk of power to get the best out of them
@@CustomCans It never ceases to impress me the amount of incredible quality that came out of the 1990's - Sennhesier HD 540 / HD 250. Beyerdynamic DT 880 600ohm - even the 1980's Beyer DT770 is WAY better than the modern versions - much more natural and linear AKG Sextett etc etc
Trying to increase my listening quality, I bought the open back Sundara a month ago and I'm blown away by the detail. I'd love the closed backs to complement the bass, have another great reference, and record vocals on my little-more-or-less-homestudio! Haha. Good luck everyone!!
Good luck
I would love to win these headphones. I have recently built some beyerdynamic dt770pro with a internal mic. You supplied me with the cable and tuning kit. I have the headphone bug now, my partner as well, so definitely need another set to keep her happy 😂
Ah ... you have the headphone bug now .... Good luck and welcome aboard the headphone train
I do indeed have the bug. Very Impressed with the new cable and particularly the attention to detail. My dt770pro caught the eye of many fascinated gamers when I attended insomnia gaming festival.
I dove head first into the audiophile/headphone world and I've been really enjoying your modding projects. You are The Shoe Surgeon of headphones. The Headphone Surgeon!
Thanks for the early review, I have been considering purchasing the open-back Sundara for quite some time (for studio/piano/general listening purposes). The closed-back version could be more suited for the loud city environment I am living in, but I am going to ponder on the graphs and your comments a little more. Cheers!
Yes, it is a difficult choice
I really want em, going to give them to my wife to use while she makes oil paintings, a perfect headphone for an artist👌
They probably are a good headphone for that kind of thing - getting lost in the music while you paint
Those look fantastic and would like to try Hifiman headphones.
Good luck in the comp
Excellent video! I currently own the open back Sundara and love it. Really need to get the closed back since my wife keeps yelling at me to turn the volume down because it’s distracting her! 😂
Good luck in the comp ;)
If speaking is silver, then listening is gold. Listening from gold cups must indeed be sublime.
Deep ... Good luck
These look amazing! I've been looking for a pair of closed backs so I'm very intrigued :)
Thanks
No sob story round here guys, but I'd absolutely love to suprise my partner with a Sandara set.. he's working and trying so hard at the minute with his music production and im so proud of his input, love & passion to the music industry even with all the hurdles of it all.. he's an old skool DJ so his passion for his technics 1210s are something else haha.. so a beautiful set of decent headphones would after all these 27 years compliment his ability even more so ❣️
We love the content and love browsing your customs..
I'd love to have my limited edition sennhieser 25s done when I win the lottery 🤣🎵🎶
Xx
I got my first pair of 1210s in 1996 and still have them .. I must make some time to get back into DJing one day... Good luck in the comp
I rather recently got into the audio space and even more recently found your channel with a video on the HD660S as I wanted to see how it compared to the HD600 internally and you seem to be one of the few channels who focus on this type of content.
The first thing I knew after getting into things is that I needed to upgrade from my Razer Krakens but being new I had little knowledge at the time so I went on a mad youtube and forum research spree for months until I had learnt enough to find myself making the decision to sell all my unused valuables and buy myself an open back Sundara. The day after they were ordered the closed backs were announced but I didn't mind as I learned that open backs provide alot of benefits which I valued over isolation at the time.
I ended up not being able to afford the jds labs atom stack to pair these with due to money issues, so for now I'm running them off of motherboard audio which is a noticeable inconvenience but for now I don't mind too much as these still are the best sounding transducer I have ever heard. The higher efficiency of the closed back would have been convenient for me, along with the isolation given I live in an 11 person household, so if these were the same price and had existed at the time I may have gotten the closed pair instead but I got a bit unlucky. I'm contempt not doing anything for now as I have no way of getting the funding to do so, so I just mentally gave up on the idea and am settling for this until I can get the funding, which I plan to do whenever the opportunity arises.
But, if I did get these, I wouldn't keep it as having both Sundaras is rather wasteful. I would just enjoy it for a few weeks or so then give it to my friend who owns nothing apart from the infamous m50x and recently I shipped down a Moondrop Chu iem for him which is still a technical performance improvement over the m50x for $20 according to him. He would benefit from these way more than me with his situation being him wanting a wide stage closed back that does not need amplification, and is fine with using EQ so the tonality issues on this would be solved.
It is very inconvenient having no amplification being in a noisy household but that inconvenience is not comparable to having only a m50x and being aware that audio gets so much better even without raising the price.
Your channel is really helpful in learning more about this hobby and I will continue to watch it either for passing entertainment or for learning about headphones I am interested in myself. Hope you find larger growth in your immediate future as this channel to me is better than a lot of the larger ones. Regardless of who win, you are a great person for helping any random single person have a new brilliant headphone for free especially considering that at the size that you are, this isn't paying for itself in promotion like with the larger channels' giveaways who do them purely as a business decision and typically have a sponsorship with another company so they they aren't paying for it themselves. Cheers.
Honestly I love the hifi Sundara I'm a bass fan and have a zen dac v2 to test it out abit better so I would love a pair.
Your you tube channel is the ultimate guide for headphones compared to all channels I've watched very descriptive on the headphones and how it coexists with your ears hence my ears one day🙃
And look it's either you be more aware around traffic with your headphones on or you can change your will under my name I could do with a few of your headphones 😜
They do have some of the best bass I have experienced
Obviously I want to win the give away. I've recently been intrigued by headphones and I've been looking at your dt770s. If I'm not chosen good advice will be very appreciated.
Yes - the DT770 give good bang for the buck - most people prefer the 80ohm ones but the 250ohm have some real magic in the treble
@@CustomCans Would you recommend 80ohm or 32ohm, I only plan to use them for casual-ish listening and wanted to know if I should look at amps as well?
Found your review after deciding to start looking into a good pair of headphones and sound setup for my desk. Came down with covid and am about to binge your channel. I would love to win those gnarly headphones to start my audio loving journey!
Welcome aboard!
I would definitely love to get my hands on them. I haven't tried to modify planers yet so love to try that, also to see if i could flatten out that uneven graph a bit. So far i have mostly been messing about with various Grado headphones and the Creative labs Cal SE's which are a brilliant headphone for the price. I really is a different experience listening to something you have had a hand in making, there is a certain pride in it.
Also thanks for the tips on modifying headphones I've gotten from you for the past year or so.
Glad you are enjoying the hobby and I completely agree
I would love the give away Sunderas.
I've always owned open-back headphones but I never had a closed-back. The way you described how they are with the speed, accuracy and details sounds exciting! I love gold so the gold finish will be a warm welcome. I'd would like to take them wherever I'd like and listen to them comfortably while I study at cafes isolated from the noises there :)
Yes they would be great for a but of cafe studding. Good luck in the comp
Would like these, to check whether they just sealed the open back Sundara and called it a day (and called it Sundara Closed).
I pulled them apart in the previous video if you fancy checking it out - they are totally different to the open backs
ruclips.net/video/su4-Kx9mIaQ/видео.html
Amazing video, first of all. You really went all out on these!
No dogs exploding or anything but man, the cable is so overkill I'd enter a giveaway just for that.
Other than that, well, I'd really like to thank you for the helpful content you have made on this channel. Did the DT770 cable mod + weights this summer and it was so easy thanks to the step-by-step guide. So, a big thanks.
Thanks and glad you enjoyed modding the 770s - they do come apart really nicely so the beyerdynamic designers get a big thumbs up from me
@@CustomCans It's a nice design and fairly easy to deal with but still, removing the ifs and buts really helped. And finally ended the misery of having meters of cable on the floor
This was really awesome review, loved it! also excited for giveaway as i have m50x and want to try something high end like sundara. fingers crossed! Also in your next video if possible please compare the bass with any comparable audeze headphone. I laughed so hard when u said dog exploded lol.
Unfortunately I have just spent £15000 on stock for the run up to xmas so could not afford any audezes.. But I will see if I can borrow some for a comparison. No promises but I will see what I can rustle up
@@CustomCans appreciate your efforts 👌
I'd like to have the Sundara closed back! Gonna use them to listen to music, game, voice call and play guitar (even tho I'm still beginning...) wanting to start a band with a friend of mine 😁. Since I'm still young I'll have the full hearing advantage!
Really nice to see that it's portable, since I move places very often... And it's a hassle to take my 400se with the amp and dac every week. saving up for a portable ampdac tho, any (cheap-ish > under 50 but if it's significantly better I don't mind going over budget) suggestions?
I am not an expert on budget amps but I used to have a little fiio amp that did the job nicely - they seem to have a good value for money range. Or if you are good at soldering, you can pick up some good DIY amp kits for sensible money
@@CustomCans I'll check fiio out, thanks! Unfortunately I'm not good at soldering... Nor do I have enough knowledge to do stuff like that, sadly. Trying doesn't hurt tho :)
Am also watching your 400se series since I really wanna (hopefully) improve the performance and colors of the headphones! (I'm new to the audio(phile) world, but I'm really interested and I want to learn badly :]
Thanks for the suggestion tho!
LMAO HELLO RANDY
@@thehomygamer3160 AYO ITS RORY :D
If you're going to EQ the CB for sparkle and tame the midrange, OB Sundara that is EQed to bring up the bass seems like a better way to go. With that being said, I'd enjoy winning these as I only buy headphones every 5 years. Keeps me off the hype train and lets me enjoy the investment before buying the "latest, greatest". Current phones are Sundara 2020 OB, AKG K712 Pro, and AKG Q701. Rotate them every 2 weeks so nothing gets boring. Favorites are the AKG K712 Pro. However, if I were to win the CB Sundara's, I think they'd be different enough from the others that I would enjoy the change when it was their turn in the rotation.
Yes - the open sudaras with more bass would be better but there are times when closed backed is the way to go. I will have to have a proper play with both and see what I can do
Jason, my friend fell into an upholstery machine but I’m happy to say he’s fully recovered now.
Lol - I will be telling that to a few people
Hey, These Sundara Closed backs look great, great work 👍, I've been using Hifimans quite some time. Lately a pair of Hifiman Edition X V2, A Closed back option would be very useful! And the Sundaras would fill the spot great. You're take on headphone sound is nice to hear.
Good luck ;)
I would really like to get them. A closed back planar would make a great addition to my humble collection. I'd use them as a preparation to become a parent one they, for they will experience love and shelter. I will embrace them multiple times a day and reassure them, that my love for them is unconditional and eternal. Maybe I won't even feel the desire to become a parent after owning these. Maybe they can fill the void that is in my heart. Anyways, great content. As an owner of a pair of HE400SEs, I really enjoyed your modding series about them. Take care!
I don't know if they will fill the void but they will certainly be easier to look after than a child and they won't wake you up multiple times in the night during the 1st year of ownership ;)
@@CustomCans The cans sound more and more preferable.
Hi Jason, could you test how the OB Sundaras behave with a tube amp? You keep hearing that planar headphones and tubes don't go well together... or I'll be lucky and be able to try it myself in a couple of weeks and justify myself to my girlfriend why the hell I have gold headphones and she doesn't have a ring yet.
Keep up the good work and greetings to the whole team.
We don't have a good tube amp in the workshop - I am planning on getting one but you would probably have to wait a month or so until we get one
@@CustomCans the little dot are very good when you change the stock tubes. And they are very affordable
I’ve been waiting for Japan to open up for foreigners again, in order to see my mom in Tokyo. Wearing these cans on the packed trains over there would be great PR for your company😎🤩
I hope you get to go soon - Good luck in the comp
Didn't expect all the gold design but it's definitely groovy.
thanks ;)
Hello hello,
I remember when I first saw your videos, I loved how you not only talked about the frequency response, build, etc., but you also disassembled headphones to compare the pieces to other headphones. Seeing the inner components added something that felt "objective" in a very subjective hobby, and it felt like such a nice change from a lot of headphone videos I've watched. Also, big fan of how the copper modded HD600's looked and how you responded to people in comments who made it sound like you were committing an audiophile sin by modding HD600's.
I would love to obtain your custom Sundara's! What I'd do with the headphones if I got them... pff shoot I dunno, stare at them for a while? But I will definitely compare them to the Shure SRH840A's that I've been daily driving for a few months.
Thank you for your advice on ear cleaning for a better headphone listening experience, and please continue to tear apart headphones for people like me who don't have the courage or skillset to do so.
Really glad to hear you have been enjoying the videos and good luck in the comp
I have tried the open sundara, and I'm still fascinated by the sound, I want this closed sundara too, if it can be obtained for free, yes I want to have it
Good luck in the comp ;)
I would love to give those custom Sundaras to my Wife. She is an archeology nerd with a massive obsession with the Mayan sites. We spend our vacations just outside of Akamal and most days we are tooling around Ik Balam or Coba. The Mayan calendar that you decaled on would make these her favorite immediately.
Wow, sounds awesome.... Good luck in the comp
@@CustomCans thanks
I'm a noob to the hobby and google decided I might like your channel. I'll be honest I don't understand most of what you're going on about but I'm interested to learn and a pair of shiny custom cans could be just the thing to send me all the way down what's looking to be a very deep rabbit hole...
Lol.. It is a deep rabbit hole ... Good luck
Amazing paintjob! I love handmade paintjobs. At the moment i am using an Open Alpha T50 mod when going on a train. They look a little outdated and very heavy with 500 gramms and i am searching for a long time for some eyecandy and not the usual stuff. I would be very happy to win this awesome headphone 😊 Thank you!
Thanks.. Good luck in the comp ;)
@@CustomCans thank you very much 👍
I would like those closed back Sundaras to keep my ears warm on the dog walks this winter.
Winter is coming ... the only problem is that you won't be able to hear the white walkers ;) Good luck