HH44: Built for Performance (Episode 3)
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- A true performance sailboat needs more than just great design. It requires special building techniques that maximize stiffness and minimizes weight. This is what allows our HH Catamarans to sail in incredibly light air or to push the boat hard in heavy air. But don't try this with an ordinary cruising catamaran. You need a boat built for this type of sailing where no expense has been spared in strengthening and reinforcing the structure, daggerboards, mast and rigging to handle the loads associated with a true performance catamaran. Welcome to cruising with Performance, Luxury and Carbon Construction. Welcome to "Yachting Evolved."
For more information about the all-new HH44, please visit our website at:
www.hhcatamarans.com/hh44
For a review of the detailed VPPs and Polars for the HH44, please click here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1Avn0...
To request an information packet with pricing and specifications, please visit:
www.hhcatamarans.com/contact
0:00 - Today we are talking about Performance
0:45 - Performance starts with weight reduction & stiffness
1:57 - HH44-01 in Production: Carbon Reinforcing
3:33 - C-Shaped Pre-Preg Carbon Daggerboards
5:56 - Rudder (Foil) Design
7:56 - Velocity Prediction Programs (Polars)
9:10 - Sail & Spar Design
11:14 - Deck Gear & Helm Station Design
12:45 - Carbon Longeron & Crossbeam
13:37 - Designing a lightweight Electrical system
14:24 - Wrapping up Performance 
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Who's here after watching Gone with the Wynns?
🙋
Now that the Wynns have announced that they’ll be buying an HH44, I can’t wait to see the build process.
Right? How many thousands of their subscribers have promptly popped over here to learn more about the boat they will be getting? Their video ended and I looked the HH44 up straight away.
@@stephanieellis5399 Same
@@fernandojv1537 me too
@@stephanieellis5399 me too.
@@stephanieellis5399 I did know about HH for awhile but the Wynns did pull a surprise on many of us I think because we weren't expecting them to choose an HH. But then, if it's in your budget, why would you get anything else? HH is way ahead of just about every other brand when it comes to the technology, performance, looks, and quality of finish.
I am also here because of the Wynns....me and my family are excited to see the build and are hoping if all goes well this is something we will be looking at when we retire.....I hope this is a boat for years to come!!!!!
Maybe by then you can buy the Wynn's HH44. I think they'll have it for a long time though.
You guys have partnered up with the Wynn’s which I’ve been following since they were in a motorhome and since they started sailing it’s just been more exciting and fun to watch so can’t wait to see them on one of your boats soon
It just came up in my feed after watching the Wynns Video. Cool 😎 and congratulations they have worked very hard for their "dream boat" I am happy for them. 💝🙏💝 Thankful for their success and look forward to more adventurs-
I'm glad you guys are doing this series on the HH44 as I found out about your company through the Wynns channel. I hope you continue in this series and hopefully show the process and progress on the Wynns model as it goes through development. Very exciting times with all the modern technology.
Hudson has struck a home run when partnering with the Wynns, a match made in heaven. Can't wait to see the build process.
Just found out that the Wynn’s are getting one of your new 44s boats I’m excited to see building process and follow them as they travel in one of your boats exciting couple I think they made a good choice in your new model looking forward to seeing them set sail
Also here by way of the Wynn's, and am so excited to see the electric offerings. With lithuimFEO2 so cheap now its good to see boats installing 200-250 KW pacs. Something that will propell the boat days rather than hours, with solar helping along as well. Silent 60 can move the boat 24 hrs a day [ 5 notts]when sunny and they have no mast. CHEERS AND FAIR WINDS Steve h.
Really looking forward to seeing the Wynns on their new HH44 sailboat...supa excited for them.
2:44 see that @Lagoon? This is how bulkheads should look like! Listen to these two naval architects, they seems to know what is important on a blue water Catamaran and on which parts you can save money and on which parts you shouldn't!
Great presentation of a state of the art hybrid HH44 OC cat vs the HH 44 SC cat.
I also found out about this boat watching from watching the Wynns videos. So far I have just sailed small 16' day sailors. But this boat is very intriguing. I could see myself considering sailing one.
give us a call!
Wynns for the win, have been following them for some time, will be interesting to see how it works out as I must admit I had not heard to much about HH Cat's, but that is about to change :)
You and me both!
@@HHCatamarans Seems the announcement by the Wynns have really added to the visibility and interest in HH.
These videos are fantastic. The design intent and decisions so clearly communicated make my engineering brain happy.
تحياتي الخالصة شكراجزيلا thank you
Wow, James Hakes and Jason Wynn look like they could be brothers
Unbelievably well designed and manufactured boat. Well done!
Can’t wait to see this boat’s sea trial.
Let's hope it's windy!
On the first day of sea trials we take it easy.
On the second day we start to push it.
On the third day we try to break it (that's where Seth got that footage of the HH50 hull fly from - a sea trial!).
Pretty amazing experience.
Very informative, thanks. 😎🇦🇺
Cool boat.
Can't wait for the production to start on these.Very interested!
Glad you like them! Reach out to us for more info!:
www.hhcatamarans.com/contact
Hey did you know the Wynn's are buying one! LOL, but now you got a lot of new fans! Great stuff!
I'm wondering if the OKelly's are looking they wanted a faster boat?
Hej Paul, when I realized you are the driving force behind HH it just fell off my eyes, what makes these boats so extraordinary. I remember you dealing with the boatbuilders, sailors, Steffen, Fietje and Killian back in 2000 here in Bremen. You may remember me as the guy designing the 3D Model for our project. It's been great fun to work with you. I'm a freelancer since 2007 and quite experienced with Rhino since 2004, working on super yachts. I'll email you. Regards, André
All I need is a couple million bucks, and I'm in!
Great job again, lads. Well done!
Thanks again!
Incredible boat really. Thank you for the video.
Our pleasure!
pretty nice, thank you 😀😀😀😎😎😎
Fantastic video! We are really looking forward to our HH44 and truly believe it is the best sailboat on the market!!
HH is like the Bentley Continental GT of catamarans: luxury, styling, performance, and incredible quality; every project is perfectly executed. Can't wait to see if HH produces a Powercat, especially with their cutting edge hybrid-eco systems, and extra strong lightweight hulls. All the more interesting nowadays as we see foil technology now making it into long distance cruisers and passage-makers, increasing range, comfort, and speed. There are also quite a few instances of hydrogen fuel cell technology being tested in yachts too. Incredible times are ahead for the marine industry and live aboard cruisers, and HH seems to be so far ahead of their competitors that they are in a class of their own.
Thanks guys. Great Boat. Systems next please?
You got it! The next video is all about the EcoDrive Parallel Hybrid and associated systems. Thanks for watching.
Wow ! Simply blown away at this incredible boat as it appears to be all about merging quality performance and new technology in one sleek beautiful design.
You have my interest now so please keep up with the build videos. Congratulations!
Incredible boat, packed with great design features. So much is happening in especially the development of multihuls these days, while the design of monohuls are stagnated, if not degraded, I feel. I like Amel, their 50 feet cost the same as this incredible catamaran, but the design has gone backwards, in my opinion, for instance by bending to popular demand and now offer all island berths in a small rolly monohul: That is going to be uncomfortable in real life sailing! To me, this HH44 is now one of three multihuls, that I would consider, if I won the jackpot, and I of course should have known, when the always well-researched The Wynns chose to buy one. The other two are evenly priced, approximately, Windelo 50 or 54 and Neel 51 or 52. Each boat has different advantages and disadvantages. I do not like the Chris White design one bit, but Windelo has taken that to the next level and actually made it desirable, by making a forward cockpit with helm position, that can both be enclosed forward in rough seas and also to the interior by massive glass doors in very rough seas, and they also have the amazing garage doors and that amazing transom, that lifts the tender while sailing, but opens to a massive swimming platform, when at anchor. Windelo also has more solar than HH now and the best hybrid drive system included. Downside is, Windelo design language is very specific and unless you like their very light and bright design, this boat design is not for you. Neel have a bit the same problem: Neel offers copious space in a 52 feet trimaran, completely unmatched and to a good price and you have many options in the layout of the boat, but no options in the surfaces at all: You either take it or leave it, and clearly not all likes the design language of Neel. I actually do. Another advantage of Neel trimarans is, they take the best features of both monohul and multihul sailing, which is the great stability and performance of the multihul, but the great versatility and upward wind sailing performance of a monohul, without the need of using dagger boards. Which brings me to HH44: So many great design features and you clearly push your design language to the very best, that it can offer. I love the fact, that you can enclose the sugar scoops while sailing. People do use those, while sailing, I for instance unsubscribed Sailing Zatara, when I saw the father clean fish on the sugar scoops while underway! People just have no common sense: Inexperienced sailors like that clearly does not realize, that if you fall overboard in sailing full steam ahead, the boat may be half a mile further down ahead, before you are turned around and can begin the search and then that lost person will be out of sight! The enclosed cockpit is a great safety feature. I also absolutely love your helm positions. I do like the raised helm positions also, but underway they also may be a bit of a hassle, especially in rough seas and weather, when you have to go up and down stairs to the living space in the boat. I also love, that you make so beautiful and high quality interiors and have no compromise on basically any part of your boats, apparently. My only question is: When are you going to build trimarans? The Neel trimaran hulls paired with your no compromise in the build process and design language sure would be my dream boat.
Loving these videos, looks like an incredible design, and you do a great job presenting it
Thank you very much!
I cough Seth's voice in the end of video 2 and this one..
I miss you and your family adventures!
Aww, thanks! ~Seth
What an AMAZING video.
Great boat and a great presentation. May success follow you and your clients.
Thank you very much!
Obsessed learning about your cats and new sub here after seeing the Wynns are getting your HH44. We are entering a new chapter in our life and considering a purchase of your HH44 for my wife and I. Trying to learn a little more about a novice sailing couple being able manage this alone without more of a crew.
Welcome aboard! Give us a call. We are always happy to talk boats and help you get into the right one for your needs (ours or otherwise).
I can’t wait for the episode on the eco-drive. I think the Wynns did a great job from an exposure perspective. Seth Heynes (from sailing family and who’s now working for you as well) did highlight your company and boats on his episode. I wasn’t seriously considering your brand for our new until right then. Now that the wynns are on board, HH is on our shortlist for sure.
Thanks for watching! ~Seth
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hurry up and build the Wynn's boat...lol. I'm really anxious to see this boat on the water.
Us too!
Wynns got me here~
When I was learning to sail in the '70s I would have never imagined a boat like the HH44 with all it's spacious interior, design and electronic wonders. Computers, carbon fiber, GPS were game changing tech but what will be the next tech wonder that might reach boat building?
I wonder if AI will eventually become a “copilot” to assist with all aspects of sailing and maintenance.
Epic....
"performance" as with any other engineering solution is about resolving *contradictions* absolutely (speed, control, stopping power, comfort, intangibles such as beauty or "happy accidents", durability, etc) so yes hence why we start with the idea behind a design first and foremost and then go from there.
Have you investigated Sharrow props? They could be a interesting option in your powered boat line. The props are designed specifically to the boat and engine/motor combination. The prop is a loop, and has significantly less vibration, cavitation & noise, especially under power.
Waiting for Episode 4 and 5 - you are really drawing it out 😉! Looking forward to the HH52 too - teaser picture looks great but why no closed transoms - unless it will be an option !
I second that!
5:25 The main benefit of pre-preg is that the proportion of binder (epoxy) vs fiber is lower than most other methods, resulting in a stronger, lighter part. An alternative would be tape winding, which is also very efficient in terms of fiber to binder ratio.
Did not know the Wynns were getting an HH44 after their Leopard. That's like going from a Volvo to a Porsche.
Suggestion: lapel microphones would make the audio much easier to hear.
Toyota to a Lamborghini. :)
@@HHCatamarans Thanks, mate. That too. :)
Awesome design! The forward looking innovation with integrated solar, 48V, light weight carbon, dual folding transoms, secure davits, ...
Can you provide more info on production / delivery dates? I'm thinking 2024 before seeing one at a North America boat show.
We have sold 20 hulls already and the next available hull today (hull 21) would complete December 2024. If you want one, get in line quick! :)
Great looking sailboat! Was wondering when episode 4 was going to be released?
Ep4 will be released next month in July. That episode covers the technology in the boat - specifically the EcoDrive. Stay tuned!
I hope the Wynn’s get all the pretty wood trim inside. All that white plastic looks sterile.
Great video as a captain i enjoyed the electric infrastructure my only concern is carbon as I have unfortunately been involved in hitting object the carbon collapsed because carbon hates being hit it shatters
You can repair carbon quite easily, as the world has seen with the Sail GP boats that regularly break and are then repaired to go racing the next day. As long as you use the same Epoxy resin, you can repair an HH quite easily.
I'm now going to sleep, hopefully dreaming of flying a hull.
thanks for the info, just curious how you will equip the boat at 48V when most products are designed for 12V and some for 24V ?
We worked with Lewmar and Harken to create 48 volt winches and windlasses. They believe this is the future so they were ready to create them. We said "great!"
Is the daggerboard or keel version able to dry out / beach in between tides for saving money on cleaning hulls and/or exploring new places?
No, our mini keels are very narrow and not like a Lagoon or other boat that can dry out on the keels. This boat will perform up wind but will need to be placed on jack stands when on the hard. Good question!
How does the dinghi come up .. I love the davit winch system on the Leopard 45?
It's quite clever actually. Because the engines are under the bunks we have room near the transoms for line drivers that are push button controlled. The dingy will not require winches to hoist.
Are Parts 4 & 5 going to be up soon? It's been 3+ months since Part 3 of the HH44 overview was available for us to watch.
Launching this week!
So what's the boat speed from those polar diagrams? Impressive boat, I like it.
Roughly 80% of wind speed.
Be interesting to see how the hull and appendages fair when striking an object at 20 knots. Any destructive testing on this to date ?
All CE certified catamarans have been designed to safety standards that include collisions with objects at sea. Given the significant amount of Carbon Fiber in the hull, daggerboards and rudders, this boat should fair better than most.
why not use airplane electrics. If I remember correctly they use 400Hz to make motors/generators lighter and more compact. 400V would then get the wiring much lighter. Even boats that are in EU that uses 50Hz system on land go to 60Hz system to make motors and gensets more powerful/lighter.
what would it take to have a performance cruising cat that can lift both hulls out of the water sustainably like we saw at the americas cup?
The technology is there now, it's a question of safety. Once the foil control systems become automated and advanced enough to prevent crashing down off foil, you may see it implemented on cruising cats.
Are you building one of these for the Wynns?
Why yes, we are!
Have you ever built a wing sail for one of your boats? I find them fascinating and wonder about their performance and durability vs a standard sail design?
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A wing sail is a far more efficient design, but sadly more difficult to build, maintain and store. Even the Americas Cup went back to traditional sails!
@@HHCatamarans Thank you for answering. Hopefully someday advancements in tech might solve those problems.
Ignorant question (I’m lazy to research online): why is the 48v wiring gauge so much thinner (hence lighter) than 12v and 24v?
12v versus 48v to get the same power 12v has to be basically 4 x the size
the lower the current the smaller the wire can be.
P = I x E ohms law.
power (watts) = I (which is current) X E (is volts)
@@tommussington8330 and @iPhone Apple Following Ohms law, 4x the voltage for the same power is 1/4 the current. Since the main losses in wire are resistive and resistive power is I^2 R, 4x the voltage has 1/16th (1/4^2) as much power loss for the same size wire. So much smaller wire can be used when the voltage is 4x as much, for the same power loss.
You market like powered catamarans are sustainable! Go sustainable solar!
Wish I had the 2.5m to build one maybe I will play the lottery
The HH44-OC starts at $950. Drop HH a line! 😎
What is the starting price of a HH44? The ocean cruiser type. Great video, very interesting and well produced.
That Buzz, the HH44-OC starts at $947,000 USD. Give us a call!
@@HHCatamarans Thank you.
Is the helm enclosed on HH44 or can it be in bad weather?
Yes, the helms can be fully enclosed in bad weather. Unlike other designs where the helm swing in to protection but the winches and lines remain exposed, everything in this yacht can be done safely and securely from the protected helm stations below the cabin top.
How does the gori propeller work in regen? Wouldn't it simply fold up?
The system monitors the drag on the prop 30 times a second and decides how much power to create accordingly. It's a pretty clever little system!
So you're saying that you can bend the carbon mast to flatten the sail but can't on an aluminum spar?
The mast has a pre-bend in it that exactly fits the cut of the sail. An alloy mast can also bend but it is not as easy to control as you need to adjust the rigging to do so.
It would be interesting to know if there was a big jump in views and subscribers after the Wynn's announcement?
Absolutely there were! That's why we are so late responding to your comment! :)
I get that you saved a lot of weight by engineering everything as light as you could but isn't the hybrid system adding a lot of extra weight for no apparent reason other than redundancy? Would really like to see an all-electric version of this boat since it has the solar and battery capacity to do it.
Once the technology is proven in this application it may very well become an option. Many sailors prefer the redundancy and appreciate the tried and true diesel back up.
when we will see catamarans with hydrofoil? Or is not technically possible or feasible?
We built the HH66 with lifting foils. It does not fly the hulls in the air but it does reduce drag. It's very possible!
Stay away from glue and bondo and plywood bulkhead, see Lagoon 450. Carbon fiber laminate is the way to go.
Exactly.
@@HHCatamarans Termites don't like your bulkheads unless they are made of wood.
direct drive or sail drive?
Shaft drive!
When are we going to get episode 4 and episode 5?
They're in the works, stay tuned!
How can I get a brochure, I want to try an get one in a year
We have all our brochures loaded on our website at hhcatamarans.com. Please visit us there or email us directly at Sales@HHCatamarans.com.
Curious why you have sail drives instead of shaft drive
There is always a well considered reason with this boat! Shaft drives offer the following advantages:
1) Shaft Drives are stronger and safer than sail drives, which can be a safety concern if you hit something or do not stay on top of corrosion.
2) Shaft Drives require less maintenance and expense (no more changing the seals at year five stuff).
3) Shaft Drives allow the engines to be placed more midships, moving weight away from the aft section of the boat, improving performance and weight distribution.
4) Shaft Drives therefore allow the "old" engine room to be used as storage. Ideal for items like Snorkeling gear, scuba tanks, fishing gear, fins, etc. All that stuff you throw into the dingy is now easily accessible.
Hope this helps!
@@HHCatamarans thank you! I thought you only offer sail drives.
lead time?
We have sold quite a few. Email us at sales@hhcatamarans.com to get up to date delivery times!
how much?
Ep 4?
Coming soon!
@@HHCatamarans You are stretching the meaning of soon. However soon Ep4 comes won't be too soon.😀
VPP for this boat does not even come close to boat speed numbers seen of sail testing of your boats, can you please make a new video to compare actual verses predicted because you have over stated what speed the boat will do
HH44-02 has seen top speeds in the 20s and sustained speeds in the high teens. Light air performance is on target too. We will certainly make a video highlighting the real-world performance when we have a chance to spend some time onboard without a commissioning/handover list (they always takes priority :)
What if a killer whale tries to bite off your rudder of Portugal?
You need better performing microphones. You guys sound like you are in a tin can, and you are selling luxury and performance…??