Five new Islanders to behold

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • We are releasing 5 new Islanders today. Yeah, 5!! We've got panda dials, blue dials and blackout models for you to checkout! And as usual, they are all backwards compatible with all the parts out there should you decide to up your game.
    Come see the entire lineup at: www.longisland...
    For the watches shown here today:
    Panda turtle: www.longisland...
    Black dial turtle: www.longisland...
    Blue dial turtle: www.longisland...
    Panda SKX: www.longisland...
    Blacked out SKX: www.longisland...
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Комментарии • 351

  • @DominusEstOK
    @DominusEstOK 4 года назад +36

    I’d love to see a Islander GMT!!!

    • @zzygyy
      @zzygyy 4 года назад +5

      David Homoney Batman GMT

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +12

      Easier said than done

    • @DominusEstOK
      @DominusEstOK 4 года назад +4

      Long Island Watch agreed, but a man can wish can’t he!!!!

    • @wingi7722
      @wingi7722 4 года назад

      I would be in like Flynn!

    • @armandojuan64
      @armandojuan64 4 года назад

      I'm waiting for a quartz version of the very watch you are wearing .

  • @izzypeezzy5150
    @izzypeezzy5150 4 года назад +52

    My wallet and I are making eye contact and it doesn't look like it's gonna be good for the both of us ...

  • @gcf7175
    @gcf7175 4 года назад +5

    Love that double domed AR crystal on the turtles, nice touch. Mahc keeps givin' the people what they want!

  • @alihas1981
    @alihas1981 4 года назад +10

    I’m desperate for a white dialled 38mm diver. The panda is near enough perfect. So tempted but I’m holding out for a 38mm
    Got everything crossed.
    Beautiful line up
    All the best
    Ali

    • @Ttencr
      @Ttencr 3 года назад

      still waiting...

  • @johndoyle1969
    @johndoyle1969 4 года назад +3

    Let us not downplay the quartz movement. Marc, if you produced a quartz Islander I bet you would sell them just as quick as the auto models.

    • @Chris-de2qc
      @Chris-de2qc 4 года назад

      He would because the price would be cheaper! 😀

    • @johndoyle1969
      @johndoyle1969 4 года назад

      Chris Probably, but not by much.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Not by much at all.

  • @jeremyb5167
    @jeremyb5167 4 года назад +5

    Really interested in a blacked out 38mm model. I've been waiting to find a nice black cased diver. Nice work with these

  • @andrewsmith448
    @andrewsmith448 3 года назад +1

    Does the panda turtle have black around the indices like the panda skx? On the website they look black but here they look chrome.

  • @colinrudd5717
    @colinrudd5717 4 года назад +16

    My personal watch embargo has officially ended, and I've ordered my first Islander!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +2

      LOL, great to hear!

    • @PhoenixThomasITB
      @PhoenixThomasITB 4 года назад +1

      You won't be disappointed

    • @machinistmikethetinkerer4827
      @machinistmikethetinkerer4827 4 года назад

      Which one?

    • @andrewhannam.
      @andrewhannam. 4 года назад +1

      Solid choice!

    • @colinrudd5717
      @colinrudd5717 4 года назад +3

      @@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 I went with the ISL-01. I've had my eye on it for a while because I really like the dual time bezel, but I had to sell a few watches before I could justify a new purchase.

  • @socaljmac7720
    @socaljmac7720 4 года назад

    The white dial with the orange minute and second hands on an orange rubber strap might be the perfect summer watch. I can dream...

  • @Ray.J
    @Ray.J 3 года назад

    Just received my ISL-31, the "turtle" with the blue dial. Amazing watch! It looks much sleeker on your wrist than you would think given the thickness of 16.5mm. Just remember that some of that is made up by the crystal and the case back, which is domed. The profile of the watch when worn really isn't bulky. It fits my 7 1/2" wrist perfectly. I only removed 2 links and then performed a micro-adjustment with the scissor clasp. Perfection. Service was outstanding too!

  • @indaleciomendez8442
    @indaleciomendez8442 4 года назад +10

    Have you thought of doing a none diver islander, maybe an alpanist case or a sarb033 case. That would look awesome.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +6

      Thanks. Yes ;)

    • @BadeniaFilme
      @BadeniaFilme 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch A relaunch of the SARB033 around 200-300$ might be a real runner. Especially since they don't have an automatic successor and go for 500-600$ now.

  • @lluismaragall7197
    @lluismaragall7197 4 года назад +15

    Hey Marc those new releases are amazing, I’m looking forward to getting my hands on one of those Islanders. Due to my wrist size I’m waiting for the 38mm tho 🙄 any news on the release of new 38mm? Specially that green one 🤤. Thank you

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +16

      Gimme 4 weeks or so

    • @avijami
      @avijami 4 года назад +1

      @@islandwatch dude!! waiting for that! Especially the white and deep blue one's!!

    • @anthonymo4754
      @anthonymo4754 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch 38mm silver yacht master versions and i'm sold!

    • @marclawrence8392
      @marclawrence8392 3 года назад

      @@anthonymo4754 I have the grey/orange in 42mm and bought a Pepsi in 38mm - The 38mm just seems to small after wearing the 42mm. I have hardly worn the Pepsi - love the 42m - and i have a pretty scrawny wrist and it still seems fine + the dial is bigger - Just not impresssed with the lume on either - sure not what it looks like on the video - but otherwise beautiful watches and bands. What Seiko should be -

  • @tylerrohn6938
    @tylerrohn6938 4 года назад +1

    That white is fantastic

  • @Sashko_Dee
    @Sashko_Dee 3 года назад +1

    Any plans on an ISL-26 and 34 hybrid!? The full lumed white dial looks like it would pair well with the blacked out DLC case.

  • @jonathansaraco
    @jonathansaraco 4 года назад +11

    Wow these all look amazing! I think your next watches should be based on the Mini Turtle, and finally doing what Seiko hasn't done yet, a Mini Samurai!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +8

      Thanks Jonathan. The ISL-26/27/28 is sort of a mini-samurai.

    • @ArexRee000
      @ArexRee000 4 года назад +3

      I’d LOVE a 38mm or 39mm samurai!

  • @JB-qt8eh
    @JB-qt8eh 4 года назад +2

    You should produce the 6105-8000 homage, will be waiting for that.

  • @allthestroke88
    @allthestroke88 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic new watches. Not that I can afford any more at this time, but they are great.
    I'd love an Islander Mini Turtle without a cyclops. If that's possible.

  • @brianeharmonjr
    @brianeharmonjr 4 года назад +1

    Killer stuff as always. Would REALLY love to see an Islander Dive watch with some red (red dial/black insert or red insert/black dial). Hardly ever see red on watches.

    • @michaelhargis7036
      @michaelhargis7036 4 года назад

      Brian, I agree about the absence of red watçhes. I have 2 Islander watches, my next will be a red one if Marc comes out with one. Check out the Orient Kamasu red dial, it's Awsome.

  • @chris7015
    @chris7015 4 года назад +1

    I'd like to see that black turtle in the SKX style. Love the orange minute hand.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Okay, thank you.

    • @okihaveaname
      @okihaveaname 4 года назад +1

      4:30 that's the skx style isl-34

    • @chris7015
      @chris7015 4 года назад

      plm2879 but not DLC

    • @okihaveaname
      @okihaveaname 4 года назад

      @@chris7015 oh didn't know theres a non-DLC black???

  • @marcjohnson4385
    @marcjohnson4385 3 года назад

    Never fails every time I make up My mind on which Islanders I want another one catches My eye

  • @Shoobecks9396
    @Shoobecks9396 4 года назад +1

    hey mark, is there any accuracy check on these islanders? i'm planning to purchase a couple of these but from my past experience with the 6r and 4r, their accuracy can be pretty inconsistent.

  • @DarthPlaya
    @DarthPlaya 2 года назад

    Far be it from me to correct you Marc, after all, you are the successful manufacturer and all around watch good guy and I'm just a long time collector and Island watch fan, but in all the years I've been collecting, when any watch was referred to as a "Panda" it was because they had white dials with black or dark colored sub-dials, (or less frequently, black or dark colored dials with white sub-dials).
    When viewed head-on, they are somewhat reminiscent of an actual panda's face, hence the nickname. The watches you are referring to as pandas are simply white dialed watches. VERY NICE white dialed watches but still .... only white dial watches.

  • @tookiejones9765
    @tookiejones9765 4 года назад

    Oh snapz!! That DLC Islander is GORGEOUS!! The little orange accents really make it all pop.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Thank you

    • @tookiejones9765
      @tookiejones9765 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch No thank you sir! heh. It's actually really inspiring to watch along as your business has grown and branched out into different aspects of the watch industry.

  • @markaponte7057
    @markaponte7057 2 года назад

    I got an isl 86 white dial batman can't wait for it to get here

  • @Silver-st2zq
    @Silver-st2zq 4 года назад +1

    That blue face on brushed looks fantastic Marc 👍

  • @chriscon8463
    @chriscon8463 4 года назад

    Very nice! You're consistantly building what people like & want...something that big companies can't seem to do!

  • @tortugabob
    @tortugabob 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful watches Marc. I love the turtle style and clean, simple dials. The black with orange highlights really pops. Unfortunately I can't wear them because of larger diameter. I know you're going to make a 38-40mm sooner of later for us guys with smaller wrists. Now make it a date only or no date (NH38) like the 6105 and I'll buy in a heartbeat. Best regards.

  • @KevAlberta
    @KevAlberta 4 года назад

    Lol the orient duo would be a nice watch to self-track the drift of the automatic side 😂

  • @jefferyneu3915
    @jefferyneu3915 4 года назад

    Black watches are not really my thing, but DLC is the only way I would even consider one. I had a PVD black watch/bracelet years ago and was bummed at how fast the plating on the clasp wore through. Kudos for doing it right Marc!😍

  • @alanmentzer8756
    @alanmentzer8756 4 года назад +1

    Mark, congratulations of you expanding Micro-Brand. Beautiful and varied watches. 😎

  • @FT4Freedom
    @FT4Freedom 5 месяцев назад

    A dlc turtle with flat, mil olive green dial, and all other details like isl34 would be awesome.🎉🎉🎉

  • @watchesgadgetsandstuff
    @watchesgadgetsandstuff 4 года назад

    I like the Islander watches - they seem very nicely made but to be honest I fail to see why people buy basically Seiko replicas for.. well the same price. The SKX I get - discontinued and all but the others are Samurai and Turtle (well somewhat smaller) design copies. No hate or offence what so ever - it is just a bit interesting to me how it worked so well - Great job Mark! Also I would like to say that I enjoy your videos informative and well presented!

  • @Alex-hs1uf
    @Alex-hs1uf 4 года назад +1

    That blue is gorgeous. How about some like these in 38 or 40mm cases?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Thanks! I might, we will see

  • @BryanO92
    @BryanO92 4 года назад

    I'm so confused by the calendar function on the duo. On the bottom it says the 16th is on Thursday but at the top it says it's on Tuesday. And also, why are the dates upside down on *both the top and bottom*? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills looking at this watch.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      You need to adjust it for your current calendar. Once it's set, it's good for the month. It's sort of like a rotating slide rule.

  • @TJS71
    @TJS71 4 года назад

    Wish the blue dial turtle came with a divers scale bezel.

  • @paulhelmuth6012
    @paulhelmuth6012 4 года назад

    Marc, well done! Love the stuff you are coming out with. And lucky me, I haven’t picked one up yet, so now I have more to choose from. 😊

  • @ralphus555
    @ralphus555 4 года назад +1

    Any chance we will see the green Islander in a 42?

  • @_Grensgeval_
    @_Grensgeval_ 4 года назад

    The ISL-04 or ISL-18 in a 38mm case would be 🥳

  • @dinner_workingsly
    @dinner_workingsly 4 года назад

    Oh yeah orange minute hands..👍🏼👍🏼

  • @MrDanielEarle
    @MrDanielEarle 4 года назад +3

    I also love eccentric watches. Could you show off some funky and unusual pieces?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +3

      Okay, maybe in a future vid

  • @d3xmeister
    @d3xmeister 4 года назад

    They are awesome. That white dial SKX-style looks soooooooo good !

  • @gabemanabat7027
    @gabemanabat7027 4 года назад

    Marc, you know we’re waiting for that 38mm full lumed dial. Give the people what the want! Best wishes!

  • @michaelhargis7036
    @michaelhargis7036 4 года назад

    I received my ISL-03 yesterday.... My first Islander watch. Wow! My ISL-18 comes Saturday. Giving that to my kid brother, he turns 50 in August. I may have to give it a trial run first. They're beautiful watches. Thanks Marc

  • @darthganu
    @darthganu 4 года назад

    Wow that white dial black ceramic bezel insert SKX mod is gorgeous! 😘 I just ordered ISL-18 as soon as they got restocked. Happy and looking forward to getting my wrist in it. But that Panda is saying to me "Never leave me behind!"

  • @sportsracer5
    @sportsracer5 4 года назад

    Knocking it out of the park with these releases! Especially that DLC with the orange minute hand. Just... wow. Fantastic work, Marc.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Thanks a ton!

    • @mattlarson48
      @mattlarson48 4 года назад

      Oh that orange minute hand! Its perfect for that watch too.

  • @jaseh4381
    @jaseh4381 4 года назад +1

    Still waiting for the islander 36mm explorer 😉

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +1

      Ok!

    • @adamb3129
      @adamb3129 4 года назад

      I thought he said it was a 40mm. If it’s a 36 that’s even better!

  • @snacklofter
    @snacklofter 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful watches Marc - from a jealous UK fan! atb snack

  • @DouglasRosser
    @DouglasRosser 4 года назад +1

    I don't know if your marketshare is even a blip on Seiko's radar, but I hope these are a roaring success for you guys. So. Much. Choice.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      No, it isn't. I could sell 10x the amount and I'd still be nothing. Happy to be here, doing what I'm doing!

  • @simtye88
    @simtye88 4 года назад

    WOW killer watches!! you are really nocking it outa the ballpark with these!! Keep it up man!

  • @El-AYE-Ra1s3d
    @El-AYE-Ra1s3d 3 года назад

    You should do a gold tone and a two tone diver and dress watch

  • @derbagger22
    @derbagger22 4 года назад

    Gorgeous white SKX type Islander! What the Mako USA should've been. I had to return that white dial Orient because it has a black chapter ring that made the 42mm seem MUCH smaller. Nice job, Marc!

  • @alexlee4588
    @alexlee4588 2 года назад

    Mark - I see that it's out of stock. If the hour markers were outlined in black, it would be perfection. Suggestion

  • @christianmotos
    @christianmotos 4 года назад

    The panda islander looks really expensive! Very refined looking! Great job!

  • @stephenheadley5518
    @stephenheadley5518 4 года назад

    Calling it. A Willard Islander homage.

  • @westashkicks
    @westashkicks 4 года назад

    Hello awesome watches! Is it possible to get the ISL-04 on your jubilee bracelet??

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      You'd have to purchase it afterwards. Sorry.

  • @Linuxwarlord
    @Linuxwarlord 4 года назад

    Looks like the new SRPE39K1

  • @machinistmikethetinkerer4827
    @machinistmikethetinkerer4827 4 года назад +1

    YESSSSS! been waiting soooo long for this one!

  • @jonathanbsherman
    @jonathanbsherman 3 года назад

    Any chance you are going to do a plated version of the ISL 61?

  • @okihaveaname
    @okihaveaname 4 года назад

    How do you choose flat vs domed crystals for each watch? Is it random choosing or based on feedback?

  • @willees6958
    @willees6958 2 года назад

    I have the ISL01. Love the watch. Hopefully the ISL29 or 35 goes on sale during Black Friday :-). The Pandas look nice!! Wish the Panda SKX would come with the Coin edge bezel and double dome like the Panda Turtle. @Marc, any plans to change that?

  • @lucacadianalbert
    @lucacadianalbert 4 года назад

    oh the white one - are the edges of white applied markers also black or are they polished? the new releases are stunning - good job!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +1

      polished.

    • @lucacadianalbert
      @lucacadianalbert 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch the white and yellow dial would look great with black edged raised markers. ou la la

  • @darrellross8609
    @darrellross8609 4 года назад

    Dear Mark, Ordering a [DA47] 60-min. After COVID is over. Main Q. Does bracelet [DA4X] go with the [DA47]? It's not clear, even in the bracelet video. Again not buying anywhere else. Best, D. from Stl. p.s. Watching for "Ready to Ship" if it's the 4X.

  • @VF5
    @VF5 4 года назад

    Are you going to release any new 38mm model?

  • @salvatored8441
    @salvatored8441 4 года назад +1

    Very nice watches! Are 38mm coming!?

  • @mikelat6898
    @mikelat6898 4 года назад

    Would be AWESOME if you can get strapped to make a Jubillee for the Islander watch...

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Thanks.

    • @mikelat6898
      @mikelat6898 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch does the strapcode jubilee for the skx fit this watch? Or is there any other compatible jubilee for this watch?

  • @mdunawaym
    @mdunawaym 3 года назад

    Beautiful watches! How does the 43mm wear?

  • @talia3280
    @talia3280 4 года назад

    Love the turtles, Marc.

  • @Knightlore10
    @Knightlore10 3 года назад

    Agree everyone needs a DLC in their collection. Think I may have found mine as ive been looking for Seiko or Orient for a while. I also have an eye on one of your aviators too so may pull both pins at the same time :-)

  • @peteanddrake4242
    @peteanddrake4242 4 года назад

    I think they are great.

  • @maxrequenes8560
    @maxrequenes8560 4 года назад

    Make an Islander no-date at 40mm or less and I'll buy one.

  • @tacocaliente8390
    @tacocaliente8390 4 года назад

    Keep killing it Marc, im saving for one of these bad boys.

  • @wingi7722
    @wingi7722 4 года назад

    I would like to see these come with the blue Saturday and red Sunday which is one of the great features of the Seikos that I really like, Great Lume by the way!

  • @milkham
    @milkham 4 года назад

    Are there dual time bezels that still have the hashmarks for minutes?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      I haven't seen one; might get confusing

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 4 года назад

    Nice choice of colors. Hope you bring some of those to 38mm. I know you like your watches big but everyone is different and what they are comfortable wearing. Some really nice designs you created. It would not surprise me if your Ilander lineup outsells most of what you carry.

  • @amirfi859
    @amirfi859 4 года назад

    Still wating for a 36mm islander, maybe a homage to tudor bb36 or rolex explorer! will be sick

  • @dragonfire61
    @dragonfire61 4 года назад +1

    Take my money 😂

  • @msmalmasri2680
    @msmalmasri2680 4 года назад

    Please help. I would like to know everything about the method of lubricating watches and the type of oils to be used

  • @zachshea
    @zachshea 4 года назад

    Hello, I am looking to get into watches. I have a budget of around $250, and need some advice. I really like the vintage look of some chronographs. I would really like an automatic, or mechanical watch. I want to keep it for a while, so I think a mechanical would be best, as I am also learning to appreciate the craftsmanship. I also have a small wrist, so I am thinking 39mm or maybe 38mm. I would love any suggestions!

  • @thebaldwatchcollector
    @thebaldwatchcollector 4 года назад

    Hi Mark, would there be any chance in the future that your pieces will be made available to us in the UK through a retail partner, I love your pieces but here in the UK we have to add those dreaded 20% taxes plus fees.

  • @akadeviant69
    @akadeviant69 4 года назад

    Hi, wondering when will you guys be getting Staib back in stock? Looking for the 20mm brushed in the 4mm

  • @John-oz1do
    @John-oz1do 4 года назад

    A very good range of value for money divers! Well done

  • @alamohamed8485
    @alamohamed8485 4 года назад

    Amazing watches like always. the dlc is awesome. Keep up the good work

  • @Nodinkee
    @Nodinkee 4 года назад

    Just great product. Marc could teach Helm a thing or two about launching watches and making them instantly available to order without any nonsense. Well played mate. All the best to you.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +1

      I don't know anything about Helm, but I'm guessing it has alot to do with financing the builds.

    • @Nodinkee
      @Nodinkee 4 года назад

      Long Island Watch and that’s fair enough. There’s just not much transparency. Anyway, I’ve put my money into your product. The 26 is amazing and I ordered the 09 yesterday. Keep doing what you’re doing, the people can’t get enough!

  • @armandojuan64
    @armandojuan64 4 года назад

    The SKX killer .... now , the 5KX killer . Seiko must hate you , Marc .

  • @kalisti2323
    @kalisti2323 4 года назад

    you're just knocking them outta the park! good job sir :)

  • @denisbaranov1367
    @denisbaranov1367 4 года назад +1

    Awesome stuff! How about something with mint dial, Mark?

  • @b.t.6345
    @b.t.6345 4 года назад

    So many choices, so little money.

  • @machinistmikethetinkerer4827
    @machinistmikethetinkerer4827 4 года назад

    BOOM! from video to store. And now in the mail. Blue turtle on the way. Thanks Marc.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад

      Thanks Mike!

    • @nautilus1753
      @nautilus1753 4 года назад

      Is the logo on the blue turtle lumed?

    • @machinistmikethetinkerer4827
      @machinistmikethetinkerer4827 4 года назад +1

      Shows it at the end of the video lume shot

    • @okihaveaname
      @okihaveaname 4 года назад +1

      @@nautilus1753 10:05 he said only the panda dials are non-lumed cuz of black paint.

  • @mikewalters1274
    @mikewalters1274 4 года назад

    Been wanting to pull the trigger on a automatic for a while now and I think I found it. Beautiful watches

  • @WeibenWang
    @WeibenWang 4 года назад

    Any chance the 38mm Islanders (other than the yellow) are coming back?

  • @ozludo
    @ozludo 4 года назад

    Love what you've done with the #34 Marc - but it would be great to see a Coke insert on that one. 0-20 in matching red - POW! So I ordered the #31 instead. That's another awesome blue watch you've made.

  • @mrchrisd
    @mrchrisd 4 года назад

    The Black is really sharp!

  • @paulr415
    @paulr415 4 года назад +1

    Love the new lineup. Any plans for a Sumo size / style Islander?

  • @matthewyonkman5692
    @matthewyonkman5692 3 года назад

    The 34 would look cool with a black embossed ceramic bezel insert.
    Question: Is there a DLC Jubilee style bracelet?

  • @albertmeyer8983
    @albertmeyer8983 4 года назад

    Very cool!

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 4 года назад

    So where do you get all the skx cases from I thought they stopped making them! Cheers...

  • @kermitage
    @kermitage 4 года назад

    Well done, you are one of a very few that get things right as far as white dialed watches are concerned - black hands, not the standard metalic ones! By the way, are the movements in Islanders regulated before assembly?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  4 года назад +1

      Yes, we try to

    • @kermitage
      @kermitage 4 года назад

      @@islandwatch Thanks! Marc, you're making it harder and harder to resist ordering another watch - Islander this time ;)

  • @SenerS10
    @SenerS10 4 года назад

    Looking forward to a Daydate Homage Islander.

  • @chrisgravel7157
    @chrisgravel7157 4 года назад

    Wow Mark you and yoru team did a wicked job on these! One question re the Turtle panda. On the video the hour markers have a silver outline ring and on the website its black. What should we expect if we order one? Thanks!

  • @ikhsanhasbi657
    @ikhsanhasbi657 4 года назад

    We need some sarb style islanders! Seiko doesn't seem to be interested bringing the sarb back since it clashes with their underwhelming Presage line, you're our only hope mark!