I don't think anyone actually believes people are leaving cs for good, people like myself and all of my friends are just fed up with the horrible state it's in. I'm keeping all my skins for the day they release the operation, fix the subtick issues, fix the ranking system, give me back cache, hopefully add more than one achievement to go for, and fix the stutter issues so my brother can play again, because I still have faith in valve and think they'll fix it eventually, I just couldn't be bothered to subject myself to it while I wait. I played CS:GO up until the day CS2 released and was even playing almost daily before the cs2 beta announced.
ofc people will leave cs for good, like ohne said in the end, it'll be more so the casual player who hasnt played a lot, not the player with thousands of hours
you can forget about cache and old cs go, cs will die in few years because they are monetezing everything in this game and not adressing cheaters so even if they add 100+ operations and new modes nothing will change because there will be cheaters ruining experience and honestly i wish cs die with valve together they are greedy bastards and stop supporting that shitty company they deserve to lose all and all of money they have
8:20 I was just a cs1.6 player, never played csgo until I heard about danger zone, I was fascinated how good this gamemode was. I am one of the very few that joined the game for danger zone and for many months when I started I kept playing danger zone only.. whenever I tell this to anyone they would laugh and yeah its still my most fav mode of CSGO (early 2020 I started)
Yeah, Danger Zone was very fun to play, even though I didn't play it that much. A very fun casual and fast-pased Battle Royale gamemode. It sucks that despite you are able to still play CS:GO, they have disabled the official matchmaking. I hope that there are CS:GO community servers hosting Danger Zone.
They 100% are going to add it back to CS2. Its just that the dangerzone maps are MASSIVE and with CS2's graphics they lag a lot. I heard they are trying to optimize them
@@thor1829 warzone fast as hell, but other hand u right. I think better if mod creators just made it like surf bhop etc. with source2 tools it will be a lot more easier, think on that way
Player count went down so much because they forced players who have played cs:go for a decade to all play in silver elo premium matchmaking. The ones that stayed to grind premium games and get to high elo were greeted with cheaters every game.
Have to take in account how many players left because the lack of content with other game modes, community servers, and the simple fact that a decent portion of the total player base can’t even play the game because the game no longer runs well compared to csgo which would run on almost everything.
People with low end PCs can't play now. I used to get 80-100 fps in CSGO but now I am hardly getting 40 fps on the lowest setting and the game sometimes crashes in between matches that's why I completely stopped playing. I think there are many people like me who are not playing due to this very reason
aussiejacko here 🤣 when you started searching up the speedrun website i was like “uh oh…” but tbh, it was actually a really fun challenge - and also like you said, for me it was a good way to take a break from competitive while still enjoying CS in another form. It’s been so sad seeing how much is missing from the CS2 release 😢
bad knife for poors. maybe make more money before try to brag be rich.. i have 170000$ inventrore, u are worthles comparing to me your fade is worth none
in my opinion its gonna be like with every release of counter strike. When souce came out people was skeptic, when csgo came out tournaments and people was still playing css until csgo was playable
I was getting frustrated with comp and premier and started playing less but I went back to play hostage casual and I’m reminded why I’ve played the game 15+ years.
I haven't played since Source. I miss the huge pub player count and the camaraderie of CAL Main, the custom maps and the modded game modes even going as far back as the Warcraft mod in 1.6. And the custom skins you could install for your screen only. CS2 does feel more modern and polished. It also feels so much more commercial.
I mean technically it was avaible in csgo and cs source through community maps but valve decided to start hiding these server in obscure parts of the menu. 90% of these servers are gone in cs2 or just don't work anymore. Surf is broken bhop doesn't feel the same and things like zombie fortress is still being worked on thats why I mostly join TF2 for these kinds of servers that I would look for in cs
@@TheHeroYouDeserve Why everyone thinks tf2 is dead? Apart from a big botting problem on public servers the game is very much alive. I play on community server to avoid bots and to enjoy a more casual setting. And sometimes I join the surf and bhop servers since csgo is gone and cs2 still doesn't have many bhop/surf servers
Completely getting rid of a functioning fun game and forcing us with a broken one until cs2 is better in a year or whatever it may be is not the play at all
The game isn't dying for good. And that's great because i'm actually new to the game and since people are leaving now, prices are dropping and giving me a realistic entry into collecting. Once players come back i might even be able to make profit
So glad i sold my knife immediately after cs2 release. After i didnt see that jump in the market people were talking about during beta it felt like the writing was on the walls.
CSGO feels crisp, accurate, and fast, while CS2 feels super inaccurate, recoil is a mess in all weapons, slow. They should not have left CSGO until CS2 was really finished. I can really tell the difference because when I play on CSGO I pick up an ak and I am super accurate, I can spray in the distance and be 99% accurate, while in CS2, a little spray with the ak feels like shit, can't do more than 3 shots without the recoil going to Mars.
Here is my breakdown of why it's going backward after CSGO. 30% Pc's can't run it anymore 40% Struggling with the new engine 21% Kept their skills 9% Top G players.
The hits that appeared to be missing/ hitting when they were not were patched most recently. Let’s not destroy ourselves.. There definitely are problems but the community won’t thrive with negative waffling. Cons 1. Missing content *missing maps, and they are old 2. New content *skins are in shambles because of new shading and lack new operations and/or cases *game tailored mostly for full parties (such as premiere) 3. Malicious Hackers/ modders I think CS will be good as long as the community doesn’t self destruct.🥂
Too many cheaters. Community servers are not even working properly. Everything is fucked. I stopped playing and went back to source. also the peekers advantage is ridiculous. Don't even get me started with the subtick stuff. Worst game ever.
well my old pc couldnt run the game anymore since the update and it no longer supported my Mac... plus all the cheaters and bad MM... it was just random at some point. also some game modes are gone, some incredible maps like train is gone, and stats for different gun's performance and strength weakness is gone. not even mad about sub tick cause I feel that is just part of the evolution, but the rest is just a shame.
I got Half-Life platinum edition when I was a kid. I didn't have the internet yet, so I played the CS training mission about 100 times. Haha, good memories bro
For some reason in CS2 I only play casual hostage mode and I am having a blast 😁👌This game focuses too much on the competitive side while the fun modes are actually the best IMO 👍
Yeah, I totally agree with most of these points. I would love a new operation, and I think both me and my team play alot less then we used to. I think the cheaters where a bit less prominent after the first big ban wave, but it seems like they are back to the point where you can notice it in like 2 out of 5 games if you know what to look for. I hope they bring the focus more over to add content to the game and removing the actual cheaters in an efficient way
Bro it would have been nice if it was just a graphics update for cs but they changed the entire game man. like we wanna play fundamentally the same game. I dont like new ak model either
i think one of the main issue that wasnt mention in this video is Comunity servers and workshop maps, yes i know they recently added it to CS2 but its basically a bare bones version of it. i can confidently say a good portion of CS player base are mainly people playing Surf/bhop/etc players on the community servers. taking that away removes a lot of players. PS: i miss the adventure maps on the CSGO workshop, killing a dragon with an AK at 3am with friends is a core memory
Hab letztes Jahr das erste mal csgo gezockt und an sich auch das erste mal am PC. Ich war dogshit aber mir hat's gefallen. Ich konnte nie die ganze Vielfalt von csgo ausprobieren bzw. erleben. Als cs2 raus kam hatte ich einfach weiter gezockt die ganzen negativen Dinge sind mir persönlich nicht wirklich aufgefallen, weshalb ich immernoch sehr viel zocke und auch sagen würde das ich es mittlerweile, da ich auch etwas besser geworden bin, deutlich mehr zocke als csgo. Ich glaube nicht daß cs2 sterben wird.
I don’t play much cs but one thing that kinda drove me away is the fact I was playing at a high-er level being global elite. In CS2 I am in silver elite and nearly drop 40+kills every game but it’s like the system gives me no elo. The other game mode is also just weird because same thing. I feel like I have to try really hard to even have a chance at winning. I have to drop 40 plus kills in every game to have a chance at winning vs before I could rely on teammates and it felt like I ranked up at an even rate. People in my lobbies either say I’m cheating or “why am I in this elo”and I just say it’s the games fault. CS2 is hindering better players ability to rank up drastically. I am a high elo Val player but played cs2 when im bored and can’t even enjoy winning in silver elo even though the enemy team is literally AI.
Not to mention the AK spray is now atrocious and there are many visual movement glitches. Via i now aim towards the back of the head vs shooting the front of the head. Overall, ranking system, anti cheat, ak spray, visuals not being accurate is why it drives me away personally. Curious if anyone agrees
The notorious issues of solo quieing and getting trash teammates somehow managed to get worse. Like 4 matches out of 5 I get 4 teammates that don't even talk, like at all, this is in EU. Makes the game not only boring but also significantly harder since it's supposed to be a team game, this was happening in CS:GO as well but it wasn't THIS bad, I didn't know it could get this much worse. So unless you're playing with friends on Discord, CS is just boring and not enjoyable right now.
Played 7 premier games yesterday, 3 of those games had obvious wall hackers that didn't even try to hide it (confirmed by watching the demos), 2 games had very suspicious players that were either wall hacking or smurfing but were way better at hiding it and the rest of the games were just normal "fair" games! I can understand getting in a game with someone who is cheating but 3-5 games in one day in the span of a few hours is unacceptable for a game as huge as counter strike.
It was the smhmae in csgo. That's why I quit the first iteration of the game. People only realizing now how many hackers there are in this game is hilarious.
Then you should join Asia server and see how many Chinese cheater here, I suffering every day with those c0cksucker from competitive and casual and yet non of them getting ban or anything, and at this point I like other left the game and wait until this pile of shjt getting better then I coming back for it, but now, I rather play battlefield 2042 and mw3 than hack2
if you all be honest a lot of players played to uprank their acc´s..now we got so much different rank´s on each map, elo points in premium...i would say..lets make 1 rank for all maps in matchmaking + the elo points in premium mode.
I played csgo and cs2 and I'll say that the cheaters in csgo were much less obvious. Wallhacks and spinbots yes, but in cs2 its always just instant scout headshots at the beginning of the round. Every single time. There were some obvious cheaters in csgo, but the blatant cheating in cs2 is insane.
Played csgo for 5 years, cs2 just feels crap to play, I quit went back to league, valo and tft. Riot may take a long time to release games they talk about. But they have long enough betas and release really polished great feeling games. I miss csgo...painfully all that is just gone...
Just yesterday I played a lobby with a squad of 4 players. We lost. Then I joined another game on a different map after waiting 5 minutes, then got the exact 4 people on my team... How few people are playing??? Plus, the waiting times are insane. 6 minutes fir a Mirage match is insane.
Lel where do you play? I can play every single map and iam not waiting more then 1 minute. Also never meet same player again. 60+ hours on cs2 in a span of 3 weeks.
The people that had early access were supposed to be testing the game and reporting issues, I’d like to know which ones actually did this, valve could have delayed the game but everyone would have complained, they were in a lose lose situation
the game may be at an all time low but the monthly player count is still currently well above average. The current monthly player count on average as of December 2023 is around 730,000, which is actually quite good considering pre 2023 only 5 months of GO's 10+ years had a monthly player count average above 730,000. There are still many many new players coming into cs2 for the very first time, and it's only natural that they won't stick around for too long, considering the state of the game and how difficult counter strike can be as a game itself.
The games stutter issue is so unbelievably annoying and i want it to be fixed asap, i have good internet speeds and my ping in game is fine but during the day if i try to que alone my game stutters but if i play later in the night or with a friend the game runs fine with no stuttering
A lot of maps and gamemodes are / was implemented , but they artifical removed them ,to set a focus of main game fixing. Dev Team from CS:GO is below 20 people. A lot Gamemodes will be comming in the Unknonw Future , also New Knife too and New Operation Case is in Plan. And Cache map will soon back too.
I just wish the community servers, it was fun to play 1v1 and so on, I got back to CS 1.6 after 12 years because of this, and there I play in a CS:GO mod server. KEKW
Stopped playing cause of the community I was put in. Would be just starting but playing with 5 to ten year veterans who just sucked but always complained and I was new. I was having fun but then every game I just kept on getting abused cause I didn’t know line ups or tricks. Was just trying to have a fun and have a good time. People just ruined it for me
It happened with me when I played valorant . I was iron and got matched with platinum. They were so mad at me . I completely said bye bye to that game . Never played it again
I used to play the gamemode where you get a kill and gets the next weapon next round as im a casual and pretty bad at the game but with them removing that I just don't even wanna play. The amount of just full on walking 1 taps is crazy to me. Ill be watching a door and the guy would be full movement running and 1 tap me with .5 seconds to react in 1k elo bottom of the barrel which makes me think theres some ping issues but my ping is 20 so not sure. Just really turns me off to it all and what I used to know which was a great game.
I joined csgo very late, I think about 2 months before cs2 came out. I really enjoyed csgo even though i was pretty bad but the game felt smooth and seamless. I updated to cs2 and initially was impressed but now the issues like constant stuttering, sub-tick update which created more problems than it tried to fix, absolutely atrocious hit reg and the absolutely atrocious amount of cheaters. Another annoying detail that cs2 removed was the local agents, the sas agent is so easy to miss in dark spots like on nuke or dust, and boost contrast does not help. The T side default agent is the exact opposite being extremely easy to spot in practically all maps.
There's nothing to do, nothing to grind for, no new skins or maps to learn. no new fun things to do. They should have gave us another case or collection and started the beta at the beginning of 2024 and gave us a 2024 summer release. Because that is when the game will be fun and fully released at this rate.
no one is counting the case drop change and the fact people are no longer afking for cases or bot 5v5 for cases. this will bring down alot of the farmers along with new players trying it and leaving+ the addition of MW3 although its not doing great either
The MMR/Elo difference is not there, here I sat at 8k, played against a full stack of 10k+ and winning the match gave me 108, and losing had me lose 304 (aproximately) so no, I dont think it actually matters and I dont think the win/lose streak counts that much either as I have had the same weird point gain/deduction when both on a 5 match winstreak and a 5 match lose streak
I only play premier. Overall, I play a lot more than I did before, just because I had stopped because csgo's mm was the most toxic experience I ever had. There's still toxicity, but now that I'm playing more, I'm playing better
I’m a new player who’s been told there’s potentiel for me. I’ve never touched Csgo2 before. With the exception of trying it on friends computer. I’m finally in a good financial position where I can afford a pc and games. I was so excited to learn this amazing game. But if feels stale, I see the hacker destroying me along side the ancient masters of this game. I’m just trying to do a good smoke to help then get yelled at for being “stupid”. Its not encouraging for new players. The only thing keeping me on is the satisfying dopamine of getting kills. If I had the variety of cs1 I think this game would get me going on a grind.. not worth it for now
If a reaction to a reaction about cs2 player stats is getting 100k views in a couple of days then the game is probably alright, I do wish they released the game with more content though. Also where TF is the operation
i think it has more to do with lack of content. no overwatch, no other casual modes, no operation, less maps, havent added any new guns yet or the other features they teased. no danger zone
CS2 elo is super random. I played 2 games more solo than my mates, got 4.000 elo, then my mates played 2 more games with me and got 6k, 9k and 8k. Funny thing about that: i‘m top of the board in ~75% of the games.
Me personally i hate cs2. What i hate the most is the look of the game. Yes the game is absolutely beautiful but i choose performance over graphics. I have a 4090 gtx and i can barely run 150 fps consistently on medium graphics. The game also looks disgusting with the lighting. i used to think dust 2 and mirage was bright. But cs2 looks absolutely disgusting with how bright it is. z
No one with skin in the game will be very hard to leave for good. I put all my skins up for sale some of them i have had over 10 years and worth fair amount, CS2 big let down for me and play alot less, looking for replacement and there's no way im going back to COD.
I am also thinking maybe I should leave CS2 for good. It's just gotten bad. One of the main issues we Indian community face is loss in the servers. Everyone has a constant loss of min 5-10% else they are in the city where the server is located and it's one of the most frustrating thing and why a big chunk of CSGO players have moved to Valo etc. games bcz guess what they don't have loss meaning it's something caused by steam servers. I have even switched routers and was thinking of changing ISP but after playing a lot of diff. online games where the loss is none and it's pretty smooth maybe it's time to put down CS2 and my 1.2k+ hours on this game(not counting CS1.6 etc I have a heck ton of hours there).
I grew up on CS, switched to other games years ago and just came back to try CS2 and wow does it feel janky after play lots of other games. Its kind of shocking. So much of being "good" at the game revolves around mastering the jank.
they wont release danger zone because even with the best pc, youd only be getting 30 fps, this shit is not optimized at all, overall they went over each and every main point, they need to have some flexibility and start fixing these obvious problems, no sinular matchmaking, more maps added back, get rid of cheaters, any single decent player from cs go can tell you whats wrong, and its all valuable information, everyone just wants a game that works and atleast what we had before
For me matchmaking system here in as or southeast asia just leads to some Chinese servers with like 80+ ping, sometimes it even goes up to 120+, it just horrible. And problem with all chinese people is they dont even try to speak english. It is so hard to communicate and play normally.
how isnt anyone talking about the model ghost bug? happened to me yesterday on mirage, i was on ct buy round, 15secs in the round, i was standing at default, ghost ct was doing laps around the tri box, then dissappeared into the wall, everyone on the server saw it. this is game breaking, as the T's were shooting the model from a ramp
I cashed out my skins. I hate CS2. I did from the beginning. I also can’t play because no matter what server I get whether it’s LA. Seattle. Chicago. I get some kind of lag/stutter and I can’t even switch weapons or grenades. It’s that fucked. And cache isn’t in the game.
Cs2 feels funky. I'm not very good at the game, but I was better in cs. I was Nova 1 in cs. Everything feels weird man. I miss war games as well. Is it ever coming back or is it just gone now? The abandoning system is fucked as well. Like sure, give me a cool down if I abandon, but having me lose 1000 elo? I only have like 4k. Sometimes things happen irl when you're paying a comp. Like the other day, my fiancé really needed my help with something, so I had to leave the comp. Just to come back later and see I was on 2.6k. Also, Imagine you play a comp and the other team has a cheater or 2, now you are forced to play it, just because you don't want to lose elo? I thought the punishment was the cooldown? Why add more to it? I maybe have like 2 hours, every other day to play. Now I need to solo q and try to get back what I lost. It's just fucked.
When it show that you are supposed to win small amount of elo is because its more likly your team to win. Probably the other team has high elo to fight for. The opposite is right too :) I played with people 15 000+ and I was 6 000 at that time and I had a match with 900 elo +
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I don't think anyone actually believes people are leaving cs for good, people like myself and all of my friends are just fed up with the horrible state it's in. I'm keeping all my skins for the day they release the operation, fix the subtick issues, fix the ranking system, give me back cache, hopefully add more than one achievement to go for, and fix the stutter issues so my brother can play again, because I still have faith in valve and think they'll fix it eventually, I just couldn't be bothered to subject myself to it while I wait. I played CS:GO up until the day CS2 released and was even playing almost daily before the cs2 beta announced.
lol they cant, whether its inventory or not, people just cannot quit this game
I could not agree more with what you just said, and I think alot of other players feel the same.
@@gijstas7697yep same!
ofc people will leave cs for good, like ohne said in the end, it'll be more so the casual player who hasnt played a lot, not the player with thousands of hours
you can forget about cache and old cs go, cs will die in few years because they are monetezing everything in this game and not adressing cheaters so even if they add 100+ operations and new modes nothing will change because there will be cheaters ruining experience and honestly i wish cs die with valve together they are greedy bastards and stop supporting that shitty company they deserve to lose all and all of money they have
8:20 I was just a cs1.6 player, never played csgo until I heard about danger zone, I was fascinated how good this gamemode was. I am one of the very few that joined the game for danger zone and for many months when I started I kept playing danger zone only.. whenever I tell this to anyone they would laugh and yeah its still my most fav mode of CSGO
(early 2020 I started)
Yeah, Danger Zone was very fun to play, even though I didn't play it that much. A very fun casual and fast-pased Battle Royale gamemode. It sucks that despite you are able to still play CS:GO, they have disabled the official matchmaking.
I hope that there are CS:GO community servers hosting Danger Zone.
brother here was pubg, warzone, an other stuff where u can play it. cs not suitable for that game mod, but every one masturbate how they like it xd
They 100% are going to add it back to CS2. Its just that the dangerzone maps are MASSIVE and with CS2's graphics they lag a lot. I heard they are trying to optimize them
@@MarcoVerro1337 Ehh, Warzone and PUBG matches for my taste are just too long. I liked how bite-sized DangerZone was.
@@thor1829 warzone fast as hell, but other hand u right. I think better if mod creators just made it like surf bhop etc. with source2 tools it will be a lot more easier, think on that way
2:24 add another option in the poll. "I play for the drops only". I know there are many who would agree..
You play for 1€ a week? ok
Player count went down so much because they forced players who have played cs:go for a decade to all play in silver elo premium matchmaking.
The ones that stayed to grind premium games and get to high elo were greeted with cheaters every game.
Have to take in account how many players left because the lack of content with other game modes, community servers, and the simple fact that a decent portion of the total player base can’t even play the game because the game no longer runs well compared to csgo which would run on almost everything.
Might be the change to the drop system as there are no more bots
Its not the only reason
Death match servers are still full of bots
People with low end PCs can't play now. I used to get 80-100 fps in CSGO but now I am hardly getting 40 fps on the lowest setting and the game sometimes crashes in between matches that's why I completely stopped playing. I think there are many people like me who are not playing due to this very reason
@@shashankchaurasia640not a lot of people are as poor as you
@@shashankchaurasia640which hardware?
aussiejacko here 🤣 when you started searching up the speedrun website i was like “uh oh…” but tbh, it was actually a really fun challenge - and also like you said, for me it was a good way to take a break from competitive while still enjoying CS in another form. It’s been so sad seeing how much is missing from the CS2 release 😢
I sold anomaly a skeleton knife fade awhile ago, I can see he sold it and used the money to buy himself those Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Smart man
Very smart of him
bad knife for poors. maybe make more money before try to brag be rich.. i have 170000$ inventrore, u are worthles comparing to me your fade is worth none
Watch CS come with a few updates, and at some point drop a Operation. The game will break new heights in all aspects again.
in my opinion its gonna be like with every release of counter strike. When souce came out people was skeptic, when csgo came out tournaments and people was still playing css until csgo was playable
I was getting frustrated with comp and premier and started playing less but I went back to play hostage casual and I’m reminded why I’ve played the game 15+ years.
i play more... A lot more, like i quit cs years ago, but cs2 release got me so hyped that i started playing again and haven't stopped yet.
Same bro, even got back into skins. Bought some of the skins I used to own back in the day!
@@cameronnorman4188ysame bruh
same man
I haven't played since Source. I miss the huge pub player count and the camaraderie of CAL Main, the custom maps and the modded game modes even going as far back as the Warcraft mod in 1.6. And the custom skins you could install for your screen only. CS2 does feel more modern and polished. It also feels so much more commercial.
I mean technically it was avaible in csgo and cs source through community maps but valve decided to start hiding these server in obscure parts of the menu. 90% of these servers are gone in cs2 or just don't work anymore. Surf is broken bhop doesn't feel the same and things like zombie fortress is still being worked on
thats why I mostly join TF2 for these kinds of servers that I would look for in cs
@@kotorybeusz7246 good lord is TF2 still alive? I loved that in like 2007.
@@TheHeroYouDeserve Why everyone thinks tf2 is dead? Apart from a big botting problem on public servers the game is very much alive. I play on community server to avoid bots and to enjoy a more casual setting. And sometimes I join the surf and bhop servers since csgo is gone and cs2 still doesn't have many bhop/surf servers
They are definately working on a Danger Zone 2 it'll grab the community for a while, it'll be an operation, releasing a Danger Zone 2 Weapon Case
Pls no, Danger Zone was cancer and laggy af
I haven’t started it since it was released. The cheater count was horrendous and I’ve heard it has worsened.
even if they keep the subtick we need 128 tick servers regardless. because the subtick system runs off of 64 tick servers mannn
Completely getting rid of a functioning fun game and forcing us with a broken one until cs2 is better in a year or whatever it may be is not the play at all
The game isn't dying for good. And that's great because i'm actually new to the game and since people are leaving now, prices are dropping and giving me a realistic entry into collecting. Once players come back i might even be able to make profit
So many MM players don’t realize how popular the casual modes were. Once DZ returns, so many will return.
What’s dz
danger zone and i dont think a lot of people played it @@Mr.Helper. @Oogleyboogley6
@@Mr.Helper.thats crazyyyy
its also important to realize how many players only played this game because of the community servers as well
@@jacob8693it’s also important to realize least 30% of their player base were on low end PCs that run csgo fine and can no longer run cs2.
So glad i sold my knife immediately after cs2 release. After i didnt see that jump in the market people were talking about during beta it felt like the writing was on the walls.
Yah you’ll go buy a new one again just wait lol
I haven't played cs since a few months into cs2's release. hated the update and everything felt wrong.
CSGO feels crisp, accurate, and fast, while CS2 feels super inaccurate, recoil is a mess in all weapons, slow. They should not have left CSGO until CS2 was really finished. I can really tell the difference because when I play on CSGO I pick up an ak and I am super accurate, I can spray in the distance and be 99% accurate, while in CS2, a little spray with the ak feels like shit, can't do more than 3 shots without the recoil going to Mars.
skill issue
Here is my breakdown of why it's going backward after CSGO.
30% Pc's can't run it anymore
40% Struggling with the new engine
21% Kept their skills
9% Top G players.
The hits that appeared to be missing/ hitting when they were not were patched most recently.
Let’s not destroy ourselves..
There definitely are problems but the community won’t thrive with negative waffling.
Cons
1. Missing content
*missing maps, and they are old
2. New content
*skins are in shambles because of new shading and lack new operations and/or cases
*game tailored mostly for full parties (such as premiere)
3. Malicious Hackers/ modders
I think CS will be good as long as the community doesn’t self destruct.🥂
Honestly, cs2 would be better if they made no changes to the gamemodes and only added premier and all the graphic and engine changes
Too many cheaters. Community servers are not even working properly. Everything is fucked. I stopped playing and went back to source. also the peekers advantage is ridiculous. Don't even get me started with the subtick stuff. Worst game ever.
subtick system is a cheat on itself
imagine someone controls his ping and raises it when he's peaking and lower it when he's shooting.
Danger Zone is low key underrated. Its a great mini game type deal, good break form cs 5v5 sweats..
Ya DZ was very fun
i actually stopped playing CS with the release of GO. Then a few years later got back into it because of roommate.
well my old pc couldnt run the game anymore since the update and it no longer supported my Mac... plus all the cheaters and bad MM... it was just random at some point. also some game modes are gone, some incredible maps like train is gone, and stats for different gun's performance and strength weakness is gone. not even mad about sub tick cause I feel that is just part of the evolution, but the rest is just a shame.
I got Half-Life platinum edition when I was a kid. I didn't have the internet yet, so I played the CS training mission about 100 times. Haha, good memories bro
MY SKINS ARE GOING TO 0!!!
u must have entry level liquids.
rarer stuff holding strong in price.
sell all
@@SaspensK Don't do that.
For some reason in CS2 I only play casual hostage mode and I am having a blast 😁👌This game focuses too much on the competitive side while the fun modes are actually the best IMO 👍
Yooo you here ✌️😂
Noone gonna talk about that epic rick roll, I expected it to happen and I still didnt prepare haha
I almost died lol. Comedy gold to keep that in the video.
Yeah, I totally agree with most of these points. I would love a new operation, and I think both me and my team play alot less then we used to. I think the cheaters where a bit less prominent after the first big ban wave, but it seems like they are back to the point where you can notice it in like 2 out of 5 games if you know what to look for. I hope they bring the focus more over to add content to the game and removing the actual cheaters in an efficient way
Bro it would have been nice if it was just a graphics update for cs but they changed the entire game man. like we wanna play fundamentally the same game. I dont like new ak model either
"the budget of a small country" had me dying
i think one of the main issue that wasnt mention in this video is Comunity servers and workshop maps, yes i know they recently added it to CS2 but its basically a bare bones version of it. i can confidently say a good portion of CS player base are mainly people playing Surf/bhop/etc players on the community servers. taking that away removes a lot of players.
PS: i miss the adventure maps on the CSGO workshop, killing a dragon with an AK at 3am with friends is a core memory
This.
i didnt even know the training course was a thing until recently. did it once.
Sold my butterfly case hardened when CS2 dropped and bought a high end mountain bike, time to go outside for awhile and be in nature.
Hab letztes Jahr das erste mal csgo gezockt und an sich auch das erste mal am PC. Ich war dogshit aber mir hat's gefallen. Ich konnte nie die ganze Vielfalt von csgo ausprobieren bzw. erleben. Als cs2 raus kam hatte ich einfach weiter gezockt die ganzen negativen Dinge sind mir persönlich nicht wirklich aufgefallen, weshalb ich immernoch sehr viel zocke und auch sagen würde das ich es mittlerweile, da ich auch etwas besser geworden bin, deutlich mehr zocke als csgo.
Ich glaube nicht daß cs2 sterben wird.
I don’t play much cs but one thing that kinda drove me away is the fact I was playing at a high-er level being global elite. In CS2 I am in silver elite and nearly drop 40+kills every game but it’s like the system gives me no elo. The other game mode is also just weird because same thing. I feel like I have to try really hard to even have a chance at winning. I have to drop 40 plus kills in every game to have a chance at winning vs before I could rely on teammates and it felt like I ranked up at an even rate. People in my lobbies either say I’m cheating or “why am I in this elo”and I just say it’s the games fault. CS2 is hindering better players ability to rank up drastically. I am a high elo Val player but played cs2 when im bored and can’t even enjoy winning in silver elo even though the enemy team is literally AI.
Not to mention the AK spray is now atrocious and there are many visual movement glitches. Via i now aim towards the back of the head vs shooting the front of the head. Overall, ranking system, anti cheat, ak spray, visuals not being accurate is why it drives me away personally. Curious if anyone agrees
The notorious issues of solo quieing and getting trash teammates somehow managed to get worse. Like 4 matches out of 5 I get 4 teammates that don't even talk, like at all, this is in EU. Makes the game not only boring but also significantly harder since it's supposed to be a team game, this was happening in CS:GO as well but it wasn't THIS bad, I didn't know it could get this much worse. So unless you're playing with friends on Discord, CS is just boring and not enjoyable right now.
Played 7 premier games yesterday, 3 of those games had obvious wall hackers that didn't even try to hide it (confirmed by watching the demos), 2 games had very suspicious players that were either wall hacking or smurfing but were way better at hiding it and the rest of the games were just normal "fair" games! I can understand getting in a game with someone who is cheating but 3-5 games in one day in the span of a few hours is unacceptable for a game as huge as counter strike.
It was the smhmae in csgo. That's why I quit the first iteration of the game. People only realizing now how many hackers there are in this game is hilarious.
in australia ive played about 50 or 60 games and ive only had 2 obvious hackers.
Then you should join Asia server and see how many Chinese cheater here, I suffering every day with those c0cksucker from competitive and casual and yet non of them getting ban or anything, and at this point I like other left the game and wait until this pile of shjt getting better then I coming back for it, but now, I rather play battlefield 2042 and mw3 than hack2
if you all be honest a lot of players played to uprank their acc´s..now we got so much different rank´s on each map, elo points in premium...i would say..lets make 1 rank for all maps in matchmaking + the elo points in premium mode.
I played csgo and cs2 and I'll say that the cheaters in csgo were much less obvious. Wallhacks and spinbots yes, but in cs2 its always just instant scout headshots at the beginning of the round. Every single time. There were some obvious cheaters in csgo, but the blatant cheating in cs2 is insane.
Played csgo for 5 years, cs2 just feels crap to play, I quit went back to league, valo and tft. Riot may take a long time to release games they talk about. But they have long enough betas and release really polished great feeling games. I miss csgo...painfully all that is just gone...
Just yesterday I played a lobby with a squad of 4 players. We lost. Then I joined another game on a different map after waiting 5 minutes, then got the exact 4 people on my team... How few people are playing??? Plus, the waiting times are insane. 6 minutes fir a Mirage match is insane.
Lel where do you play? I can play every single map and iam not waiting more then 1 minute. Also never meet same player again. 60+ hours on cs2 in a span of 3 weeks.
Lot of cheaters... that's the big problem
The people that had early access were supposed to be testing the game and reporting issues, I’d like to know which ones actually did this, valve could have delayed the game but everyone would have complained, they were in a lose lose situation
I may be in a minority here, but train was my favorite map. I want that back so bad!
I quit csgo two years ago and came back for Cs2. I’ve been enjoying it and playing a lot.
the game may be at an all time low but the monthly player count is still currently well above average. The current monthly player count on average as of December 2023 is around 730,000, which is actually quite good considering pre 2023 only 5 months of GO's 10+ years had a monthly player count average above 730,000. There are still many many new players coming into cs2 for the very first time, and it's only natural that they won't stick around for too long, considering the state of the game and how difficult counter strike can be as a game itself.
The games stutter issue is so unbelievably annoying and i want it to be fixed asap, i have good internet speeds and my ping in game is fine but during the day if i try to que alone my game stutters but if i play later in the night or with a friend the game runs fine with no stuttering
A lot of maps and gamemodes are / was implemented , but they artifical removed them ,to set a focus of main game fixing. Dev Team from CS:GO is below 20 people.
A lot Gamemodes will be comming in the Unknonw Future , also New Knife too and New Operation Case is in Plan.
And Cache map will soon back too.
I just wish the community servers, it was fun to play 1v1 and so on, I got back to CS 1.6 after 12 years because of this, and there I play in a CS:GO mod server. KEKW
8:22 they deleted dangerzone not because it isn't super sweaty like the other gamemodes, it is because it wouldn't run in so many computers
Stopped playing cause of the community I was put in. Would be just starting but playing with 5 to ten year veterans who just sucked but always complained and I was new. I was having fun but then every game I just kept on getting abused cause I didn’t know line ups or tricks. Was just trying to have a fun and have a good time. People just ruined it for me
It happened with me when I played valorant . I was iron and got matched with platinum. They were so mad at me . I completely said bye bye to that game . Never played it again
24:07 i cant belive how a chat is so slow at understanding something omg
I used to play the gamemode where you get a kill and gets the next weapon next round as im a casual and pretty bad at the game but with them removing that I just don't even wanna play. The amount of just full on walking 1 taps is crazy to me. Ill be watching a door and the guy would be full movement running and 1 tap me with .5 seconds to react in 1k elo bottom of the barrel which makes me think theres some ping issues but my ping is 20 so not sure. Just really turns me off to it all and what I used to know which was a great game.
I joined csgo very late, I think about 2 months before cs2 came out. I really enjoyed csgo even though i was pretty bad but the game felt smooth and seamless. I updated to cs2 and initially was impressed but now the issues like constant stuttering, sub-tick update which created more problems than it tried to fix, absolutely atrocious hit reg and the absolutely atrocious amount of cheaters. Another annoying detail that cs2 removed was the local agents, the sas agent is so easy to miss in dark spots like on nuke or dust, and boost contrast does not help. The T side default agent is the exact opposite being extremely easy to spot in practically all maps.
There's nothing to do, nothing to grind for, no new skins or maps to learn. no new fun things to do. They should have gave us another case or collection and started the beta at the beginning of 2024 and gave us a 2024 summer release. Because that is when the game will be fun and fully released at this rate.
no one is counting the case drop change and the fact people are no longer afking for cases or bot 5v5 for cases. this will bring down alot of the farmers along with new players trying it and leaving+ the addition of MW3 although its not doing great either
CS2 sadly got the Cyberpunk 2077 treatment 😞
That would be great actually since Cyberpunk is amazing right now after the big fix update.
iam in one of those 25 percent played more then 3k matches and now ... they throwed csgo ... then i left it
Cs2 literally made my pc crash 4 time and now the indy who repair my pc is stealing all my data
The MMR/Elo difference is not there, here I sat at 8k, played against a full stack of 10k+ and winning the match gave me 108, and losing had me lose 304 (aproximately) so no, I dont think it actually matters and I dont think the win/lose streak counts that much either as I have had the same weird point gain/deduction when both on a 5 match winstreak and a 5 match lose streak
Valve would rather waste resources on useless things than just make a simple anti cheat
Just give me CS 1.6 with matchmaking and im super happy.
I only play premier. Overall, I play a lot more than I did before, just because I had stopped because csgo's mm was the most toxic experience I ever had. There's still toxicity, but now that I'm playing more, I'm playing better
I’m a new player who’s been told there’s potentiel for me. I’ve never touched Csgo2 before. With the exception of trying it on friends computer. I’m finally in a good financial position where I can afford a pc and games. I was so excited to learn this amazing game. But if feels stale, I see the hacker destroying me along side the ancient masters of this game. I’m just trying to do a good smoke to help then get yelled at for being “stupid”. Its not encouraging for new players. The only thing keeping me on is the satisfying dopamine of getting kills. If I had the variety of cs1 I think this game would get me going on a grind.. not worth it for now
Why do valve talk up the new sky boxes but don’t even drop a better danger zone with no fog
If a reaction to a reaction about cs2 player stats is getting 100k views in a couple of days then the game is probably alright, I do wish they released the game with more content though. Also where TF is the operation
The new updates to subtick make it feel much better! I think they are very close now!
I dont think people realize they didn't "Delete" maps. They completely remade CS on source 2, they just haven't made the maps yet. Be patient
i think it has more to do with lack of content. no overwatch, no other casual modes, no operation, less maps, havent added any new guns yet or the other features they teased. no danger zone
I don't know I never have to wait for more than 40 second for a comp/premier
The rank should be same as CSGO i always wanted to reach Global and i dont like this type of individual rank for a map
18:17 I love the fact that Anomaly has to Google how many hours are in a working week hahshahahah
CS2 elo is super random. I played 2 games more solo than my mates, got 4.000 elo, then my mates played 2 more games with me and got 6k, 9k and 8k.
Funny thing about that: i‘m top of the board in ~75% of the games.
Me personally i hate cs2. What i hate the most is the look of the game. Yes the game is absolutely beautiful but i choose performance over graphics. I have a 4090 gtx and i can barely run 150 fps consistently on medium graphics. The game also looks disgusting with the lighting. i used to think dust 2 and mirage was bright. But cs2 looks absolutely disgusting with how bright it is. z
I’ll believe a fentanyl fiend quitting over a CS player quitting.
They cahanged my fav skin, M4A1-S | Mecha Industries , from white to silver
No one with skin in the game will be very hard to leave for good. I put all my skins up for sale some of them i have had over 10 years and worth fair amount, CS2 big let down for me and play alot less, looking for replacement and there's no way im going back to COD.
CS2 numbers arent going down, they're just averaging out again after all the hype for the new release. Check the steam charts before CS2 announcement.
I am also thinking maybe I should leave CS2 for good. It's just gotten bad. One of the main issues we Indian community face is loss in the servers. Everyone has a constant loss of min 5-10% else they are in the city where the server is located and it's one of the most frustrating thing and why a big chunk of CSGO players have moved to Valo etc. games bcz guess what they don't have loss meaning it's something caused by steam servers. I have even switched routers and was thinking of changing ISP but after playing a lot of diff. online games where the loss is none and it's pretty smooth maybe it's time to put down CS2 and my 1.2k+ hours on this game(not counting CS1.6 etc I have a heck ton of hours there).
They finally added surf and bhop so i have returned but since release I literally haven’t played
The competitive map-based rank change is a huge L. It basically made competitive the new casual.
its just the fact that I can't run decent settings anymore, so it looks like trash when i get 100 fps
I grew up on CS, switched to other games years ago and just came back to try CS2 and wow does it feel janky after play lots of other games. Its kind of shocking. So much of being "good" at the game revolves around mastering the jank.
csgo have 500-600k online ALL YEARs.. its not falling its became realistic numbers whitch all be
I stopped playing after a couple of weeks of cs2... I liked csgo way better tbh...
they wont release danger zone because even with the best pc, youd only be getting 30 fps, this shit is not optimized at all, overall they went over each and every main point, they need to have some flexibility and start fixing these obvious problems, no sinular matchmaking, more maps added back, get rid of cheaters, any single decent player from cs go can tell you whats wrong, and its all valuable information, everyone just wants a game that works and atleast what we had before
Yeah, I personally left after 3k+ hours because quite honestly it feels like shit now
you also gotta factor in the player numbers lost due to outdated pc's
There is a major in march (i think) so im pretty sure they are gonna have the game in good state before that and after that an operation
For me matchmaking system here in as or southeast asia just leads to some Chinese servers with like 80+ ping, sometimes it even goes up to 120+, it just horrible. And problem with all chinese people is they dont even try to speak english. It is so hard to communicate and play normally.
how isnt anyone talking about the model ghost bug? happened to me yesterday on mirage, i was on ct buy round, 15secs in the round, i was standing at default, ghost ct was doing laps around the tri box, then dissappeared into the wall, everyone on the server saw it. this is game breaking, as the T's were shooting the model from a ramp
I cashed out my skins. I hate CS2. I did from the beginning. I also can’t play because no matter what server I get whether it’s LA. Seattle. Chicago. I get some kind of lag/stutter and I can’t even switch weapons or grenades. It’s that fucked. And cache isn’t in the game.
Cs2 feels funky. I'm not very good at the game, but I was better in cs. I was Nova 1 in cs.
Everything feels weird man.
I miss war games as well. Is it ever coming back or is it just gone now?
The abandoning system is fucked as well. Like sure, give me a cool down if I abandon, but having me lose 1000 elo? I only have like 4k. Sometimes things happen irl when you're paying a comp. Like the other day, my fiancé really needed my help with something, so I had to leave the comp. Just to come back later and see I was on 2.6k. Also, Imagine you play a comp and the other team has a cheater or 2, now you are forced to play it, just because you don't want to lose elo? I thought the punishment was the cooldown? Why add more to it? I maybe have like 2 hours, every other day to play. Now I need to solo q and try to get back what I lost. It's just fucked.
When it show that you are supposed to win small amount of elo is because its more likly your team to win. Probably the other team has high elo to fight for. The opposite is right too :) I played with people 15 000+ and I was 6 000 at that time and I had a match with 900 elo +