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Saitek Centurion chess computer
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2020
- The Saitek Centurion was and still is the best value for money chess computer.Retailing at 99€ there was no better package, when it was released back in 1998 and still today you can't go wrong, if you pick it up for around 40€ used.
It boasts a lot of features:
- Coach and Study positions for estimating your ELO strength
- Various game modes, including Blitz and adaptive strength (!)
- Vast analysis functions, e.g. four main variants
- A playing strength of around 2000 ELO
P.S.: It was recycled a couple of times as Admiral and Chess Challenger. All derived from 1993s GK 2100. In the US, the RadioShack Champion 2250XL was a derivative of the GK 2100.
Evaluation:
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Price 1 (up to $50)
Strength 3 (Expert)
Usability 4 (comfortable)
Collectability 2 (common)
Overall score 50 out of 100
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For the full explanation of the evaluation system see the description section of:
• Choosing a Chess Compu...
I’ve been playing in this board for 23 years. Great product.
Hidden options (these are normally available on the Cougar):
To get the extra options you need to press "GO/STOP" together with "OPTION" while the chess computer is switched off.
It's better to press "GO/STOP" after you pressed the other button to avoid to just switch on the computer before it can sense the second button being pressed.
A dual tone beep indicates the extra options have been activated.
The extra options are the following:
-SEL Switches from a selective search routine to a brute force search.
-EASY Disables the computers ability to think on the player's time.
-RAND Makes the computer choose between two moves with evaluations that are close instead of picking the strongest move every time.
+BOOK Turns the computer's book on or off.
-BK:FL Computer uses its full book.
-BK:PA Computer uses a book with more passive moves.
-BK:AT Computer uses a book with more active or attacking moves.
-BK:TN Computer only uses its tournament book.
The extra menus are available until the computer is switched off.
Wow, thank you. I didn't know that. -RAND seems particularly interesting.
Wow - thanks for telling us this. Is the default setting for brute force and selective search the new option ?
look's like a fine machine, thank you for the post.
I have The "Chess Challenger", 100% clone as you mentioned it. Aware of the "Secret menu" and "fun level bug". Level Fun 6, already, isn't "fun" at all any more...
After years of no use I decided just a few hours ago to play fun level 4 & 5 (buggy) and then tried 6 on my chess challenger to see how buggy this level is and I had the exact same thoughts as you!! 😄
Although at first I wanted and ordered the centurion (I never got it, they never sent it to me) I am very happy with the Chess Challenger, it's so nice! I like it's studies, too!!
@@theodorkonstantinidis7456 What I did - I've put "Challenger" on backburner for awhile and upon watching IM Bartolomew video about his chess computer which catapulted him from beginner to master "Excalibur De Luxe", found online the list of Klones (same engines but different design) and gave it a try, following advices from the video. Somewhere on 30sec level, it's weaker than Chalenger's fun 6 and slightly stronger than fun 5, found the "necessary step" I think...
@@theodorkonstantinidis7456 Totally agree, highly customizable, it has things not mentioned in manual "secret menu" and also online there are solutions for the bug.
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Muy bueno, solo que necesito las instrucciones en español, quiero saber como hago para conseguirlo??
Para entender como funciona en general, puedes leer el manual del GK2100, es similar:
alain.zanchetta.free.fr/docs/Saitek/Saitek_GK2100_ES.pdf
Para saber cuales botones / casillas necesitas empujar para cuales niveles, compara con las tablas de niveles en el manual frances del Centurion: alain.zanchetta.free.fr/docs/Saitek/Saitek_Centurion_FR.pdf
I have purchased this chess computer, but on level A1 .. A8 it makes so many odd mistakes here (giving away queen), that I wonder: is that normal, or did I buy a defect machine? Tried to reset. I do not see any difference with the Fun levels (E1 ... E8) and the normal levels.... anyone?
The Centurion is prone to the fun level bug. Please consult this guide: www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/Bugs#/media/Datei:FLB.jpeg
Does the odd behaviour also occur on levels B2 and up? What is your playing strength?
@@followyourpassion8378 it happened also on higher levels. And also in the 5 minutes game. Already on move 3 it gave away queen. In the box was a little paper about that bug. I have now done something else. I removed the batteries again. Left them out for 10 minutes, did a reset and tried again. Now the machine seems to work great. Is there a chance that what I did run into was that bug?
Oh my playing level is around 1650-1750 ELO
@@MuziekMetMeesterMarius Probably yes. Activating the fun levels once is enough to weaken the move selection algorithm. You probably have bought it in this condition. But, since you have remedied that, it will work fine. Just don't select a fun level :-) Regarding your playing strength, you might find some moves in the A levels strange, even when the machine is at full strength. You definitely need to start at B2.
@@MuziekMetMeesterMarius If you get the chance to grab a Milano Pro / Master Chess cheaply (around 70€), take it. It has a larger opening library and is stronger than the Centurion. If you have money to spare, this one:
ruclips.net/video/RC2nGrYEwOQ/видео.html
i have model After.... Cougar multiple algoritm...but i don't if Is very different
The Cougar is a very interesting machine. The program is almost the same as the Centurion's, but it runs faster and therefore has a higher search depth. The Cougar also is harder to come by. If you want it to play at full strength, please make sure that you didn't accidentally trigger the fun level bug. This bug can be remedied with a reset (press ACL on the bottom side of the case for 2 seconds).
@@followyourpassion8378 o yes!! i have much saitek chess... Milano pro...Travel...Maetro
@@micheleastroboy The Milano Pro is even stronger! I'd like to have a Mephisto Atlanta / Magellan at one point. I think, these are the strongest "Morsch" machines made by Mephisto/Saitek.
What's its ELO?
Around 2000 ELO. See the specs at around 0:20.
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