I just want to correct a mistake they made. The Americans didn’t give “permission” to use Assention island as a base as it’s already British territory. The UK lets the US have a base there too (for a price)! (In fact for a few days in 1982 it was the busiest airport in the world!). There’s another British island, St Helina (I think) further south near Africa and there are all sorts of reasons I’d love to visit it, but it’s actually really difficult to get to (and that’s an interesting story in itself). It’s also where we sent Napoleon after Waterloo! On the Falklands, it’s actually an interesting and therefore perhaps good case study. If you look at a topographical map, South America is a weird shape compared to its continental shelf which does basically extend hundreds of miles out into the Atlantic and until then, generally speaking around the world the “continental shelf” rule worked. However the Falklands are the exception that proves the rule (as they say). It was basically colonized from zero human population by the British (once initial scuffles were out of the way) and as a result everyone there is of British decent) so it’s quite clear, especially after the referendum that self determination is more important. It’s also rather rich coming from an ex Spanish colony. Colonization was nothing short of genocide in the Americas yet the US in particular really don’t like to talk about that and they’ve even turned the Thanksgiving story into one of people fleeing religious repression when in fact the opposite was true, they were fleeing because they weren’t allowed to repress Catholics as much as they felt they should be slowed to! It’s obviously more complicated than that but I bet your average American can’t name the first port they set out from or the name of the second ship they had to turn back because it had problems and that’s when they landed at Plymouth and switched everything onto the Mayflower. They were also the minority of the passengers who were going there on a profit motive to get beaver furs. Even at the time they were considered dangerous religious extremists because of what they would do to people who weren’t as crazy religious as them! In the 1600’s!
@@da90sReAlvloc yes, because we (the UK) lease the space for one to the US. That’s a pretty common arrangement for all UK bases where there’s also a US presence. Cyprus for example is the same (for both UK bases there). UK owned but used by both militaries. The strategic significance of Accession, Cyprus and the Falklands should be obvious on face value. Also Accession provides a place from which to broadcast the BBC world service that will cover most of Africa. In fact, we just gave sovereignty back to Mauritius for the islands to their east. I don’t know the full details as the UK didn’t really use it as a base but the US did and it’s been an issue we wanted to deal with for a while but the US being there was problematic. Given we just got a new government I suspect it was a unilateral decision to give it back and the US will have to come to some arrangement with the displaced indigenous peoples or leave altogether! It just looks like holiday houses on google maps so I’m glad we’ve finally done the right thing there given it’s the only place left where indigenous people were displaced. Being married to someone from Mauritius I can tell you it’s an interesting commonwealth country as it was French until it became British in the mid 1800’s so everyone speaks, English, French & Mauritian Creole so I really struggle to follow what my wife is saying to her family sometimes! I like the fact we didn’t move in and insist people stop speaking French though. And as a result it’s probably just as much of a holiday retreat for Brits as it is for French people! It’s absolutely beautiful!
@@Chris-Lynch Do you know if this was part of the WWII pact? I'm sure it was something like Churchill went over to the US and basically begged for the US to send us supplies and help to help the USSR keep fighting, but the agreement was for X amount of bases around the world for 99 years? I'd never considered that this may have been one. But yeah, regardless, they didn't have to provide permission. What is interesting is the Argies have only really just started to improve their air force. I believe they do have trainer aircraft from the US but generally speaking the US had an arms embargo on arms to Argentina. So when Denmark was trying to sell its old F-16s, the US had to provide permission, as some are being sold to Argentina. Again, I'm not 100% on this so more than happy to be corrected. I think it is kind of telling though, if true, at least most of our allies could no longer arm Argentina like back then, when they had the French munitions.
In 2013 the Falkland Islands held a referendum on their sovereignty. The Islanders were asked whether or not they supported the continuation of their status as an Overseas Territory as part of the United Kingdom and 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
When Britain claimed the Falklands the country of Argentina did not exist, that land was a Spanish colony. After Argentina gained independence and became country they laid claim to the Falklands simply due to it's proximity. There was British people living on those islands before Argentina was a country.
@@XennialTV THE ISLANDS DID SWAP HANDS AND UTS ALL VAGUE WHO REALY OWNED OR HAS LEGAL RIGHT, IS WE KNOW HIW GOOD WE BRITS ARE AT HIDING HISTORY,WE TAUGHT THE YANKS ALL WE KNOW LOL
@@billydonaldson6483 First of all the Pope wasn't ruler of the world and not all the world even accepted his religion so he doesn't get to decide even back then who does and doesn't own land and second of all the British monarchy denounced the Catholic church during the reign of Henry VIII and founded the Anglican church (church of England) thus Britain doesn't recognise the Catholic Pope nor his decrees.
We can claim the islands to be British because we were the 2nd ever to step foot on the islands and claim them as ours 100’s of years before Argentina was even a country and if the islands aren’t British there French because they got on the island 1 year before the British so it’s a British or French island no matter what we aren’t giving it to Argentina a place that wasn’t even a country when we discovered the islands
It was the choice of the people btw but Argentina didn’t care what the people of the island wanted so they kept pushing the British government to do something then obviously war started
When I was young and still at school I was in the army cadets, my corporals Mick Stamp and Roger Stand went on and joined the army, they both went to the falklands and they were on HMS Canberra.
The Argentines claim the British threw them of the island in 1833. This is false. The British threw the Argentine military off the Island. (Many if not most were British mercenaries anyway) two civilan couples chose to leave with them. (There names are on record). Their own naval records support this as an Argentine Naval vessel was in port at the time. Other Islanders were considering leaving because they were owed a lot of money by the Argentine governor who was in Argentina. The British paid them in silver to encourage them to stay. (They wanted a viable communty on the island) Note the the Spanish HAD thrown ALL the British civilans off the Islands in the 1700's Few had returned due to the initimidation.
The young lady asked why we have to fight about everything - maybe because if people do not fight to defend what belongs to them, then criminals and bullies will win. That is why the west now helps Ukraine against Russian soldiers who invaded their country, and why during the 2nd world war the Allied forces fought against the Axis forces of Germany, Italy, Japan and some other 'lesser' forces.
Too right, had Churchill given in to Germany the world would be a different place today. Besides this Country has given much to the world it was not always a fight.
I was in the RAF and in the Falklands in 2012... The 30th anniversary. I have lots of stories. Ultimately, don't mess with the British. We're very kind... Yet ever so slightly mental.
As an example of the importance of land search a tiny piece of land north of Scotland called Rockall . A hundred yards in circumference. Occasionally an armed forces individual ! Will go live on it to maintain it as a part of Scotland and I turn the UK . That spec of land sees a massive increase in our territorial waters in the North Atlantic
It's lovely to see the other beautiful young lady at the front, instead of the back, it's so good to watch confidence grow. I love watching your reactions and the videos you choose ❤
You saw the Argentine name for the Falklands was The Malvinas . As fate would have it Scotland had a famous Darts player ( Jocky Wilson ) during that time he was the UK champion often . He was married to an Argentine lady named “ Malvinas “ You can imagine the controversy that befell them both . Not all bad as many rallied to their defence from unfair headlines and badgering from certain quarters , political and general public would harden their attitudes as British casualties began to occur .
Galterei the Argentine dictator was so unpopular after mega inflation rates and mass killing of oppenents whipped up this age old saga. He sent 1000's of poorly equipped conscripts to die in this war as a diversion to home troubles. RIP to both sides.
The Falkland Islands are classed as a British overseas territory. Therefore, the land actually belongs to the reigning monarch. Therefore any attack upon that land is an attack on british sovereignty so the British military are duty bound to fight to defend/regain that land for the monarchy. Also all those people that live on the Falkland Islands are British subjects. Relatives of the origibal settlers and they hold British passports. They have helf numerous referendums as to who they wish to be goverened by and every time the result has been 95% + in favour of the continuation of British governance.
I was a soldier in 3 Cdo Bde and was on leave when the invasion happened. A couple of my oppos had just been sent down as part of the relieving party. We had just returned from training in Norway for 3 months. Then these idiots picked a fight. We were the only Bde on the planet that was capable of such a mission. Within 48 hours we had returned to our units picked up our weapons and set sail. The rest is history.
They are important islands because of their position. It’s very difficult to sail from either side of South America. Without sail near the islands and being detected by the British. 😉
In addition to the below comments, International Waters start 200 miles off a country's coastline and The Falklands are 450 miles from the nearest piece of Argentine coastline, ergo they are well within International Waters.
I have to wonder if the many nitwits of the past who woke the Lion, did it to make sure that they would not be entirely forgotten in history based on how the Lion reacts when awakened 🤔
If you want to hear more about the “bloody nose” that the small British force gave the invading Argentinians. Watch “mills marauders” by mark felton productions. A very short video about the British forces on South Georgia island (the other island next to the Falklands)
The reason the islands were invaded by Argentina is because the military Junta was in serious trouble domestically. They used it to take attention away from that and gain popularity with the Argentinians.... Big mistake picking a fight with the British though...!
No "natives" ever lived on the Falkland Islands. They are British settlers and have no ties whatsoever to Argentina - no injustice, apart from a manufactured one by a military junta. The UN determined that "self determination" of the people who live there is paramount.
The islanders are safe AGAIN now and enjoy life again. No threats to speak different to what they are use to. The islanders wishes must be respected. 7:51 5 Oct 2024.
They are British because they are. They are not Welsh, English, Scottish or Northern Irish The are still part of Britain. A larger, governance and security than the one by itself. A community of peoples believing in certain values and life beliefs.
Proximity is not a claim for sovereignty. This is not imperialism, if the British decolonised they would have to give the land back to the natives (like they did everywhere else in the world). There are no Falkland natives, so there’s no one to give it back to. It’s that simple really
Basically they believed that Britain wouldn’t take any notice of this but we did we showed no mercy no exceptions any who attack will be shown firmly that we will not hold back against any opposition
Falklands have been British before Argentina was even a country. Argentina was part of the Spanish Empire and it would only be Spain that could have had a claim against the British and the Falklands but even they did not press the issue or attempt to claim them. what Argentina is doing would be like if Britain claimed France because its only 20 miles away.. its idiotic
The late great Christopher Hitchens went looking for the 'disappeared' in the late 70s just before the war. I'm a british soldier. I'd fight and risk death for the islanders, so others may do the same if me and mine need help.
Marginal arguments can be difficult to resolve, you could perhaps try magnifying each argument to an extreme and conside:- If Mexico invaded Hawaii on the basis they are closer and someone from Mexico once lived there for a while. What would America do? I think this is the basis for the British argument. 🤔
You do realize that you are a direct descendant of about 2000 people that lived in 1750. So the McClymont's are a tiny fraction of your ancestry. Beside that there are many thousands of people living today that are a direct descendant of the McClymont's. Just to put things into perspective: Geneticists Peter Ralph and Graham Coop showed that all Europeans are descended from exactly the same people. Basically, everyone alive in the ninth century who left descendants is the ancestor of every living European today, including Charlemagne, Drogo, Pippin and Hugh. So you are a direct descendant of Charlemagne. Well congratulations, so is every European, feeling still special? Scientifically ancestry further than 4-5 generations ago, is all nonsense.
The problem is Argentinas claims are flawed from the start as when the UK claimed the islands the only other people who had tried to claim them was France but the French could not make the land work so they abandoned the islands leaving them “uninhabited” for the English to claim. The French did try when they saw the UK had claimed them to re claim them but by that time there was no legal basis for that claim. After the UK had made the island safe and inhabitable with sheep farmers from Scotland they gave the ok for whale hunters to dock and the Spanish tried to lay claim to the islands but was told in no uncertain terms no the islands are UK territory… we also have the pope causing confusion drawing a line down the entire mid and South American land and saying everything on the left of the line went to Spain and everything on the right went to Portugal “regardless of if there was already nations there…” that’s why some nations speak Spanish and some speak Portuguese. But ultimately Argentina was not a country when all of this was happening it was joined to a few other south American countries and was called viceroyalty of the Rio de la plata… so we can see the confusion where Spain was trying to take it after the UK already claimed it as a empty set of islands and made a settlement with new islanders and then the pope who had never even visited tried giving it to Spain regardless of the fact it was British territory BUT Argentina has no claim to it at all as they had their borders drawn up and the nation of Argentina was created AFTER the Falkland islands had been British for a long time… and the fact that in the once in a life time vote the islanders had to choose who they want to have claim over the islands only one person on the entire Falklands voted Argentina again shows Argentina has no business with the islands at all. We need to remember this land was not taken by the British they arrived at empty islands and laid claim to them as no other nation had done they was not anyone’s to loose at that point. I hope this explains more on what you wasn’t sure about as the program was good but didn’t really explain very well just how the situation came up only the tension leading up to it.
Underpinning the British Response was the right to self determination. The people are as British as anyone in the U.K. The World stood by and watched. America was divided Jean Kirkpatrick very much backed Argentinian Claim. In many ways the British stood alone. The UN fought with a war of words. NATO well sorry mate not our fight it’s out of Area. To be fair the US of A provided a lot of logistic help when war became inevitable. Ultimately the Arginine conscripts were no match for the professional British Forces. The sad thing is so many young men died so many lives torn apart. The price of freedom was high.
While I agree Britain is an island nation and we do have a history if behaving like that. In 1982 I don't think it's entirely fair just to dump this response to that. Argentina carried out the invasion mostly to bolster their political support. The residents however are British, or crown dependents etc etc whatever you want to say, they're not Argentinian. So at that stage you're attacking Inverness or Cardiff or Liverpool. You're attacking the UK's people and it will be defended. Yes, whaling was still profitable for the island, largely due to Japan, but oil wasn't discovered until later. So yeah, money is always a motivation but I think in this instance we actually get to say it was for the people. They were later given a referendum to decide.
As history has proven wars can be started for political reasons. The ruler in Argentina at the time was a General Galtieri and his dictatorial government killed many of its own people and was suffering very high inflation with riots in the streets. Fighting a war [popular in this case] gives the people something more serious to think about which eases civil unrest. The incompetent British politicians sent the wrong idea by withdrawing a British protection ship. The fact that 99% of the population of the Falklands voted to stay British did not sway a dictator and that is the continuing problem in that the British government would need to force the people of the Falklands to move in order to satisfy Argentina . The Falklands are better protected and any government that wanted to stay in power would have to send re enforcements to back up the forces already in the Falklands though this time the British have even more in the way of technical superiority so a war is unlikely in the near future.
The Falklands never had a native population. Argentina was not a country when Britain first claimed the islands. Argentina is itself a European Colony. No Agentinians ever lived on the Falklands. The people of the Falklands are all British. Argentina was in 1982 a brutal dictatorship. At 400 miles it's not really proximate. If proximity was a real claim then lots of places around the world would have trouble. The US & other countries have many territories thousands of miles away from their mainland. The British do not surrender to aggressors. The principal of what the inhabitants want is priority.
Lets not forget that the area of South America that Argentina occupies was a Spanish colony and the descendants were Spanish, their language is Spanish, Argentina is being a little hypocritical as to suggest that the British colonised the Falklands, the British landed in the Falkland Islands before anyone else and before Argentina was a country, the Falklands Islands were inhabited by no one until the British arrived, not like the area of Argentina, I'm sure the indigenous peoples would like there country or land back of what we now know is Spanish speaking Argentina. The people of the Falklands want to remain British and to speak English, therefor the Falklands will remain a British territory governed by the Islanders, the economy and resources of the Island belong to the Falkland people, I don't think they would get the same arrangement if Argentina took Sovereignty.
There were no natives in the Falklands, every person in history to come there was a foreigner, and the first ones were europeans. You cant really call them colonizers because there was no people to colonize.
The Falklands are ours, and have been ours since before Argentina was even formed. They vast majority of them are descendants of original brits, so why would they want to be part of Argentina. They should get over it.
the Argentinians never occupied the Falklands,so why do they claim them? there was never anArgentian population there and the Falklands are outside Argentinian waters eg {EEZ} so they have no legitimate claim.end of.
I think that it might have been the French , the Exocet missile was French designed and manufactured and sold to the Argentinian government. The Mirage Fighter aircraft are also French designed and manufactured
@@Shoomer88 THATCHER WITHDREW 2000 TROOPS , THEY USED THE ISLAND'S FOR TRAINING EXERCISES, AND TO SAVE MONEY SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT ANYONE WITH AN OUNCE OF A BRAIN WOULD KNOW THAT WITH A VICIOUS DICTATOR ON THE DOORSTEP WHY WOULD YOU PULL THEM OUT UNLESS YOU KNEW HE WOULD INVADE, I WATCHED IT EVERY FAY IT WAS ON TV, FIRST WAR COVERED CLOSELY ON TV BACK THEN, SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOIN, SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN DUMPED AT NEXT ELECTION IN 83 , BUT SHE FOUND A WAR AND THE FORCES CAME HOLE FLASHING THE FLAGS WITH 1000s AT THE DOCK'S, ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE WAS GREAT, SHE FORCED THE WAR AS WINTER WAS COMING IN AND THE SOUTH ATLANTIC WAS TERRIBLE FIR SHIPS AND PLANES, AND SHE NEEDED A WIN SOONER OR IT WOULD BE TOO LATE FOR THE ELECTION
@@Stand663 COURSE ITS RELEVANT, SHE TOOK THE TROOPS OF EXERCISING, LEAVING IT EXPOSED IF SHE HAD LEFT THE TROOPS IN IT WOULDNT HAVE COST 9 BILLION AND 1000 LIVES DEAD WOULD IT, THEY WOULD NOT INVADE, COMMON SENSE, DIDNT CIST 9 BILLION TO KEEP 2000 TROOPS THERE, PLUS UT WAS IDEAL FIR TRAINING
I just want to correct a mistake they made. The Americans didn’t give “permission” to use Assention island as a base as it’s already British territory. The UK lets the US have a base there too (for a price)! (In fact for a few days in 1982 it was the busiest airport in the world!).
There’s another British island, St Helina (I think) further south near Africa and there are all sorts of reasons I’d love to visit it, but it’s actually really difficult to get to (and that’s an interesting story in itself). It’s also where we sent Napoleon after Waterloo!
On the Falklands, it’s actually an interesting and therefore perhaps good case study.
If you look at a topographical map, South America is a weird shape compared to its continental shelf which does basically extend hundreds of miles out into the Atlantic and until then, generally speaking around the world the “continental shelf” rule worked. However the Falklands are the exception that proves the rule (as they say). It was basically colonized from zero human population by the British (once initial scuffles were out of the way) and as a result everyone there is of British decent) so it’s quite clear, especially after the referendum that self determination is more important.
It’s also rather rich coming from an ex Spanish colony. Colonization was nothing short of genocide in the Americas yet the US in particular really don’t like to talk about that and they’ve even turned the Thanksgiving story into one of people fleeing religious repression when in fact the opposite was true, they were fleeing because they weren’t allowed to repress Catholics as much as they felt they should be slowed to! It’s obviously more complicated than that but I bet your average American can’t name the first port they set out from or the name of the second ship they had to turn back because it had problems and that’s when they landed at Plymouth and switched everything onto the Mayflower. They were also the minority of the passengers who were going there on a profit motive to get beaver furs.
Even at the time they were considered dangerous religious extremists because of what they would do to people who weren’t as crazy religious as them! In the 1600’s!
Correct!!!!
@@rayfielding so is us soldiers there now
@@da90sReAlvloc yes, because we (the UK) lease the space for one to the US. That’s a pretty common arrangement for all UK bases where there’s also a US presence. Cyprus for example is the same (for both UK bases there). UK owned but used by both militaries.
The strategic significance of Accession, Cyprus and the Falklands should be obvious on face value. Also Accession provides a place from which to broadcast the BBC world service that will cover most of Africa.
In fact, we just gave sovereignty back to Mauritius for the islands to their east. I don’t know the full details as the UK didn’t really use it as a base but the US did and it’s been an issue we wanted to deal with for a while but the US being there was problematic. Given we just got a new government I suspect it was a unilateral decision to give it back and the US will have to come to some arrangement with the displaced indigenous peoples or leave altogether! It just looks like holiday houses on google maps so I’m glad we’ve finally done the right thing there given it’s the only place left where indigenous people were displaced.
Being married to someone from Mauritius I can tell you it’s an interesting commonwealth country as it was French until it became British in the mid 1800’s so everyone speaks, English, French & Mauritian Creole so I really struggle to follow what my wife is saying to her family sometimes! I like the fact we didn’t move in and insist people stop speaking French though. And as a result it’s probably just as much of a holiday retreat for Brits as it is for French people! It’s absolutely beautiful!
@@Chris-Lynch Do you know if this was part of the WWII pact? I'm sure it was something like Churchill went over to the US and basically begged for the US to send us supplies and help to help the USSR keep fighting, but the agreement was for X amount of bases around the world for 99 years? I'd never considered that this may have been one. But yeah, regardless, they didn't have to provide permission.
What is interesting is the Argies have only really just started to improve their air force. I believe they do have trainer aircraft from the US but generally speaking the US had an arms embargo on arms to Argentina. So when Denmark was trying to sell its old F-16s, the US had to provide permission, as some are being sold to Argentina. Again, I'm not 100% on this so more than happy to be corrected. I think it is kind of telling though, if true, at least most of our allies could no longer arm Argentina like back then, when they had the French munitions.
They were reminded it was not their island
Britain has owned the Falkland Islands since before Argentina existed as a nation! 🇬🇧
In 2013 the Falkland Islands held a referendum on their sovereignty. The Islanders were asked whether or not they supported the continuation of their status as an Overseas Territory as part of the United Kingdom and 99.8% voted to remain a British territory, with only three votes against.
3 votes against as I recall😊
When Britain claimed the Falklands the country of Argentina did not exist, that land was a Spanish colony. After Argentina gained independence and became country they laid claim to the Falklands simply due to it's proximity. There was British people living on those islands before Argentina was a country.
@@XennialTV SO USA WAS FIRST ON THE MOON BUT IT DOESN'T OWN IT AS THEY LEFT IT, NOW EVERYBODY CAN CLAIM IT,
Well said glad someone got the facts right ✊🏻👍🏻
Pope Alexander divided the world between Spain and Portugal in 1493, so this is one of the Argentinian claims as they were once controlled by Spain.
@@XennialTV THE ISLANDS DID SWAP HANDS AND UTS ALL VAGUE WHO REALY OWNED OR HAS LEGAL RIGHT, IS WE KNOW HIW GOOD WE BRITS ARE AT HIDING HISTORY,WE TAUGHT THE YANKS ALL WE KNOW LOL
@@billydonaldson6483 First of all the Pope wasn't ruler of the world and not all the world even accepted his religion so he doesn't get to decide even back then who does and doesn't own land and second of all the British monarchy denounced the Catholic church during the reign of Henry VIII and founded the Anglican church (church of England) thus Britain doesn't recognise the Catholic Pope nor his decrees.
The islands were never inhabited by Argentinians, originally by the French then a year later the British.
We can claim the islands to be British because we were the 2nd ever to step foot on the islands and claim them as ours 100’s of years before Argentina was even a country and if the islands aren’t British there French because they got on the island 1 year before the British so it’s a British or French island no matter what we aren’t giving it to Argentina a place that wasn’t even a country when we discovered the islands
Actually, British captain John Strong was the first to discover and land on the Falkland Islands in 1690, not the French.
It was the choice of the people btw but Argentina didn’t care what the people of the island wanted so they kept pushing the British government to do something then obviously war started
We've owned the islands long than Argentina has existed. 🇬🇧
The people who live on the Falklands are British and they wish to remain British. The Americans count Hawaiians living on their islands as American.
Don't forget Texas and the west coast of the US were Mexican
Hawaii is occupied unlawfully against the wishes of the natives. , yee all miss that one. It was invaded and is still occupied… 🤦♂️
@@hugh-hoof-hearts4360 You are right Hawaii should be British again
Loving this 🤗 great reactions guys
When I was young and still at school I was in the army cadets, my corporals Mick Stamp and Roger Stand went on and joined the army, they both went to the falklands and they were on HMS Canberra.
Did I understand that? Argentina had never been there and didnt even exist as a nation when the British went there?
Very interesting! Thanks for this! 😊
Britain claimed sovereignty of the islands long before Argentina was even a country. 🤷♂️
Thouse penguins were the British special Boat Squadron in disguise
The Argentines claim the British threw them of the island in 1833. This is false. The British threw the Argentine military off the Island. (Many if not most were British mercenaries anyway) two civilan couples chose to leave with them. (There names are on record). Their own naval records support this as an Argentine Naval vessel was in port at the time.
Other Islanders were considering leaving because they were owed a lot of money by the Argentine governor who was in Argentina. The British paid them in silver to encourage them to stay. (They wanted a viable communty on the island)
Note the the Spanish HAD thrown ALL the British civilans off the Islands in the 1700's Few had returned due to the initimidation.
The young lady asked why we have to fight about everything - maybe because if people do not fight to defend what belongs to them, then criminals and bullies will win.
That is why the west now helps Ukraine against Russian soldiers who invaded their country, and why during the 2nd world war the Allied forces fought against the Axis forces of Germany, Italy, Japan and some other 'lesser' forces.
Too right, had Churchill given in to Germany the world would be a different place today. Besides this Country has given much to the world it was not always a fight.
Russia was provoked.
I was in the RAF and in the Falklands in 2012... The 30th anniversary.
I have lots of stories. Ultimately, don't mess with the British. We're very kind... Yet ever so slightly mental.
argentina has never owned the falkands
As an example of the importance of land search a tiny piece of land north of Scotland called Rockall .
A hundred yards in circumference.
Occasionally an armed forces individual ! Will go live on it to maintain it as a part of Scotland and I turn the UK .
That spec of land sees a massive increase in our territorial waters in the North Atlantic
It's lovely to see the other beautiful young lady at the front, instead of the back, it's so good to watch confidence grow.
I love watching your reactions and the videos you choose ❤
You saw the Argentine name for the Falklands was The Malvinas .
As fate would have it Scotland had a famous Darts player ( Jocky Wilson ) during that time he was the UK champion often .
He was married to an Argentine lady named “ Malvinas “ You can imagine the controversy that befell them both .
Not all bad as many rallied to their defence from unfair headlines and badgering from certain quarters , political and general public would harden their attitudes as British casualties began to occur .
Galterei the Argentine dictator was so unpopular after mega inflation rates and mass killing of oppenents whipped up this age old saga. He sent 1000's of poorly equipped conscripts to die in this war as a diversion to home troubles. RIP to both sides.
The Falkland Islands are classed as a British overseas territory. Therefore, the land actually belongs to the reigning monarch. Therefore any attack upon that land is an attack on british sovereignty so the British military are duty bound to fight to defend/regain that land for the monarchy.
Also all those people that live on the Falkland Islands are British subjects. Relatives of the origibal settlers and they hold British passports. They have helf numerous referendums as to who they wish to be goverened by and every time the result has been 95% + in favour of the continuation of British governance.
The Argentines fought for the Falkland Islands, Great Britain fought for the Falkland Islanders. A big difference.
Hi, please continue with the rest of the story.
I was a soldier in 3 Cdo Bde and was on leave when the invasion happened. A couple of my oppos had just been sent down as part of the relieving party. We had just returned from training in Norway for 3 months. Then these idiots picked a fight. We were the only Bde on the planet that was capable of such a mission. Within 48 hours we had returned to our units picked up our weapons and set sail. The rest is history.
They have no found large amounts of oil off the coast.
They are important islands because of their position.
It’s very difficult to sail from either side of South America. Without sail near the islands and being detected by the British. 😉
They're 300 miles away from the tip of South America.
In addition to the below comments, International Waters start 200 miles off a country's coastline and The Falklands are 450 miles from the nearest piece of Argentine coastline, ergo they are well within International Waters.
Silly to think the brits would not respond to an invasion... They awoke the sleeping lion, and when the lion roars..well the rest is history!
I have to wonder if the many nitwits of the past who woke the Lion, did it to make sure that they would not be entirely forgotten in history based on how the Lion reacts when awakened 🤔
If you want to hear more about the “bloody nose” that the small British force gave the invading Argentinians. Watch “mills marauders” by mark felton productions. A very short video about the British forces on South Georgia island (the other island next to the Falklands)
we fought for the islands as it was the fact it was british territory and the people are british who live there.
If the Falklands does not belong to the people who settled in the Islands Argentina does not belong to the Europeans/Snanish who settled in Argentina.
60% of Argentina's population is Italian(european).btw
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The reason the islands were invaded by Argentina is because the military Junta was in serious trouble domestically. They used it to take attention away from that and gain popularity with the Argentinians....
Big mistake picking a fight with the British though...!
No "natives" ever lived on the Falkland Islands. They are British settlers and have no ties whatsoever to Argentina - no injustice, apart from a manufactured one by a military junta. The UN determined that "self determination" of the people who live there is paramount.
The islanders are safe AGAIN now and enjoy life again. No threats to speak different to what they are use to. The islanders wishes must be respected. 7:51
5 Oct 2024.
They are British because they are. They are not Welsh, English, Scottish or Northern Irish The are still part of Britain. A larger, governance and security than the one by itself. A community of peoples believing in certain values and life beliefs.
Proximity is not a claim for sovereignty.
This is not imperialism, if the British decolonised they would have to give the land back to the natives (like they did everywhere else in the world). There are no Falkland natives, so there’s no one to give it back to. It’s that simple really
Basically they believed that Britain wouldn’t take any notice of this but we did we showed no mercy no exceptions any who attack will be shown firmly that we will not hold back against any opposition
It wasn’t inhabited land originally
Falklands have been British before Argentina was even a country. Argentina was part of the Spanish Empire and it would only be Spain that could have had a claim against the British and the Falklands but even they did not press the issue or attempt to claim them. what Argentina is doing would be like if Britain claimed France because its only 20 miles away.. its idiotic
The British owned the Falklands before Argentina existed.
The late great Christopher Hitchens went looking for the 'disappeared' in the late 70s just before the war.
I'm a british soldier. I'd fight and risk death for the islanders, so others may do the same if me and mine need help.
55secs in the answer is partly resources!
Marginal arguments can be difficult to resolve, you could perhaps try magnifying each argument to an extreme and conside:-
If Mexico invaded Hawaii on the basis they are closer and someone from Mexico once lived there for a while. What would America do?
I think this is the basis for the British argument. 🤔
I'm a direct decentof the McClymont's who started the colony in the Falklands back in 1750.
You do realize that you are a direct descendant of about 2000 people that lived in 1750. So the McClymont's are a tiny fraction of your ancestry.
Beside that there are many thousands of people living today that are a direct descendant of the McClymont's.
Just to put things into perspective:
Geneticists Peter Ralph and Graham Coop showed that all Europeans are descended from exactly the same people. Basically, everyone alive in the ninth century who left descendants is the ancestor of every living European today, including Charlemagne, Drogo, Pippin and Hugh.
So you are a direct descendant of Charlemagne. Well congratulations, so is every European, feeling still special?
Scientifically ancestry further than 4-5 generations ago, is all nonsense.
The problem is Argentinas claims are flawed from the start as when the UK claimed the islands the only other people who had tried to claim them was France but the French could not make the land work so they abandoned the islands leaving them “uninhabited” for the English to claim. The French did try when they saw the UK had claimed them to re claim them but by that time there was no legal basis for that claim. After the UK had made the island safe and inhabitable with sheep farmers from Scotland they gave the ok for whale hunters to dock and the Spanish tried to lay claim to the islands but was told in no uncertain terms no the islands are UK territory… we also have the pope causing confusion drawing a line down the entire mid and South American land and saying everything on the left of the line went to Spain and everything on the right went to Portugal “regardless of if there was already nations there…” that’s why some nations speak Spanish and some speak Portuguese. But ultimately Argentina was not a country when all of this was happening it was joined to a few other south American countries and was called viceroyalty of the Rio de la plata… so we can see the confusion where Spain was trying to take it after the UK already claimed it as a empty set of islands and made a settlement with new islanders and then the pope who had never even visited tried giving it to Spain regardless of the fact it was British territory BUT Argentina has no claim to it at all as they had their borders drawn up and the nation of Argentina was created AFTER the Falkland islands had been British for a long time… and the fact that in the once in a life time vote the islanders had to choose who they want to have claim over the islands only one person on the entire Falklands voted Argentina again shows Argentina has no business with the islands at all. We need to remember this land was not taken by the British they arrived at empty islands and laid claim to them as no other nation had done they was not anyone’s to loose at that point. I hope this explains more on what you wasn’t sure about as the program was good but didn’t really explain very well just how the situation came up only the tension leading up to it.
You can thank the Brits for Argentine Democracy! It wasn't until after the Falklands war that Military Junta in Argentina was overthrown!
The British founded the empty land and then put the flag on it. They never actually gave away the let the Spanish do their thing so to speak.
Underpinning the British Response was the right to self determination. The people are as British as anyone in the U.K. The World stood by and watched. America was divided Jean Kirkpatrick very much backed Argentinian Claim. In many ways the British stood alone. The UN fought with a war of words. NATO well sorry mate not our fight it’s out of Area. To be fair the US of A provided a lot of logistic help when war became inevitable. Ultimately the Arginine conscripts were no match for the professional British Forces. The sad thing is so many young men died so many lives torn apart. The price of freedom was high.
You can’t negotiate with a dictator
the us were posied to help MAggie said dear Ronald we dont need help
watch this guys : The Falklands War 1982 (Full Documentary)
While I agree Britain is an island nation and we do have a history if behaving like that. In 1982 I don't think it's entirely fair just to dump this response to that. Argentina carried out the invasion mostly to bolster their political support. The residents however are British, or crown dependents etc etc whatever you want to say, they're not Argentinian. So at that stage you're attacking Inverness or Cardiff or Liverpool. You're attacking the UK's people and it will be defended.
Yes, whaling was still profitable for the island, largely due to Japan, but oil wasn't discovered until later. So yeah, money is always a motivation but I think in this instance we actually get to say it was for the people. They were later given a referendum to decide.
It has to be about the people living off the land all lands were people free until they are not , begin debate
As history has proven wars can be started for political reasons. The ruler in Argentina at the time was a General Galtieri and his dictatorial government killed many of its own people and was suffering very high inflation with riots in the streets. Fighting a war [popular in this case] gives the people something more serious to think about which eases civil unrest. The incompetent British politicians sent the wrong idea by withdrawing a British protection ship. The fact that 99% of the population of the Falklands voted to stay British did not sway a dictator and that is the continuing problem in that the British government would need to force the people of the Falklands to move in order to satisfy Argentina . The Falklands are better protected and any government that wanted to stay in power would have to send re enforcements to back up the forces already in the Falklands though this time the British have even more in the way of technical superiority so a war is unlikely in the near future.
The Falklands never had a native population. Argentina was not a country when Britain first claimed the islands. Argentina is itself a European Colony. No Agentinians ever lived on the Falklands. The people of the Falklands are all British. Argentina was in 1982 a brutal dictatorship. At 400 miles it's not really proximate. If proximity was a real claim then lots of places around the world would have trouble. The US & other countries have many territories thousands of miles away from their mainland. The British do not surrender to aggressors. The principal of what the inhabitants want is priority.
Lets not forget that the area of South America that Argentina occupies was a Spanish colony and the descendants were Spanish, their language is Spanish, Argentina is being a little hypocritical as to suggest that the British colonised the Falklands, the British landed in the Falkland Islands before anyone else and before Argentina was a country, the Falklands Islands were inhabited by no one until the British arrived, not like the area of Argentina, I'm sure the indigenous peoples would like there country or land back of what we now know is Spanish speaking Argentina. The people of the Falklands want to remain British and to speak English, therefor the Falklands will remain a British territory governed by the Islanders, the economy and resources of the Island belong to the Falkland people, I don't think they would get the same arrangement if Argentina took Sovereignty.
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The islanders voted to remain British.
The British occupied The Falklands before Argentina was even a country. Seems case closed for me.
When are you going to give the Hawaiian Islands back to the Hawaiian people ?
7 or 8000 miles, pfff! That's barely local to us Brits....😉
I’d yes you will be happy
There were no natives in the Falklands, every person in history to come there was a foreigner, and the first ones were europeans. You cant really call them colonizers because there was no people to colonize.
UK should of send soldiers there before invasion
There were Royal Marines stationed there, but just a small detachment. NP8901.
The Falklands are ours, and have been ours since before Argentina was even formed. They vast majority of them are descendants of original brits, so why would they want to be part of Argentina. They should get over it.
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yes English people live there, so we had to go
Wide awake is British anyway yanks never had a choice
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the Argentinians never occupied the Falklands,so why do they claim them? there was never anArgentian population there and the Falklands are outside Argentinian waters eg {EEZ} so they have no legitimate claim.end of.
The irony is .. we sold them the weapons they went to war with us with LOL... silly buggers.
I think that it might have been the French , the Exocet missile was French designed and manufactured and sold to the Argentinian government.
The Mirage Fighter aircraft are also French designed and manufactured
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What's the point if your going to talk over the video sorry poor reaction
What really annoys me about these videos is the stopping and talking, why not watch it and then talk about it
dont wach this. Watch music or travel guides to the UK, like top 10 castles.
OH AND IT COST BRITAIN 9 BILLION TO GET THE ISLANDS BACK,SO WHAT WAS THE POINT IN PULLING OUT TROOPS?
Who pulled out what troops?
@@Shoomer88 THATCHER WITHDREW 2000 TROOPS , THEY USED THE ISLAND'S FOR TRAINING EXERCISES, AND TO SAVE MONEY SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT ANYONE WITH AN OUNCE OF A BRAIN WOULD KNOW THAT WITH A VICIOUS DICTATOR ON THE DOORSTEP WHY WOULD YOU PULL THEM OUT UNLESS YOU KNEW HE WOULD INVADE, I WATCHED IT EVERY FAY IT WAS ON TV, FIRST WAR COVERED CLOSELY ON TV BACK THEN, SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOIN, SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN DUMPED AT NEXT ELECTION IN 83 , BUT SHE FOUND A WAR AND THE FORCES CAME HOLE FLASHING THE FLAGS WITH 1000s AT THE DOCK'S, ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE WAS GREAT, SHE FORCED THE WAR AS WINTER WAS COMING IN AND THE SOUTH ATLANTIC WAS TERRIBLE FIR SHIPS AND PLANES, AND SHE NEEDED A WIN SOONER OR IT WOULD BE TOO LATE FOR THE ELECTION
The cost is irrelevant. The islanders needed protection.
@@Stand663 COURSE ITS RELEVANT, SHE TOOK THE TROOPS OF EXERCISING, LEAVING IT EXPOSED IF SHE HAD LEFT THE TROOPS IN IT WOULDNT HAVE COST 9 BILLION AND 1000 LIVES DEAD WOULD IT, THEY WOULD NOT INVADE, COMMON SENSE, DIDNT CIST 9 BILLION TO KEEP 2000 TROOPS THERE, PLUS UT WAS IDEAL FIR TRAINING
@@petermizon4344 It cost your country Argentina a lot of lives and money. Your economy has tanked ever since.
You were warned…