The waterjet marks on the outer profile is basically MKC version of "thick for toughness " They gaslight the community into thinking it's "rustic" when it's just lazy. I will bet anyone any amount of money they have $40 all cost into that knife and sheath and they won't spend the time and cost to finish the profile because they don't have anyone skilled enough to do it and /or they don't wanna pay the cost to have the blanks cut oversized then milled or ground down to fit the scales. The scales are most likely milled to an exact dimensions so they will line up with the profile of the blade the only think human hands touch is putting scales on and sharpening.
@@ericasedc I was particularly disappointed to learn Steve Rinella has a knife made with them. Steve's normally one of 'forces for good' that I point to when people slag the outdoor community.
I have a mkc speedgoat in magnacut and 52100 and a mini speedgiat in 52100. When Josh co owner was talk about steel being to hard to sharpen at high hrc it was before they offer any knives in magnacut. When they started mkc inky had knives in 52100 and talk about how it was stronger and easier to sharpen in field or touch it up on a strop or ceramic rod so nit so good marketing now that they have magnacut heard they get knife blanks in cut to shape and size and heat treated already they are just put treat pakarized on 52100 or cerakote and mirror polished or cerakote on magnacut. While I like how thin thee knives are mine are cord wrapped lightweight hunting knives I like them they work well and have lifetime replacement and sharpen through them so like benchmade but without have to pay for blade replacement I see value if you break your knives you get a new one so that good, but you are paying through noise up front for a knife in 52100 it cost same as magnacut which is crazy to me. Love there knives fir being lightweight .10 at edge and .90 at spine they work well as a hunting knife but yea they do feel over price. When I bought mine 3 and 2 years ago I thought they were doing everything in house grind down cut out heat treating when i found out on one of there podcast that all they do is treat steel and grind an edge on them kind of was disappointed there still usa made which is good but they are just like every other knife company to me they don’t make knives they assemble a knife in my option. I will be supporting northern knives and others like Levi who do everything in house start to finish for nit much more money. I would still like to see you test there knives they seem to sharpen well I don’t have any “bur” lol issue they all sharpen and take a good edge and work well like to your option on heat treat on them and see what your getting other than machine marks, another note is 52100 steel knives from them have smooth no marks on spine but all magnacut knives have rough spines they was weird to me their 52100 knives seem alot better finished than knives done in magnacut.
My guess is just old way of thinking or outdated knowledge, I'm sure at one point steels over 63 were difficult to sharpen before we learned about abrasives. However once we learned abrasives matter we learned that the high hardness steels not only sharpen easier with proper heat treatment but de burr like 10× easier leading to a much much sharper edges that last way longer and is easily honed and stropped back.
I guess because he’s not that old, I figure he may know better. For some reason this particular marketing tactic targets his aimed demographic in the way he expects them to accept it best. He is aiming for hunters and avid outdoorsmen. They would be the ones with the outdated and uneducated thoughts on knives. I believe Josh may know better though.
If the price matched the finish quality I wouldn't mind it so much, but trying to pass this as a premium, semi-custom knife when they can't be bothered to finish it is inexcusable.
100% agree... I have one... The one with paracord wrapped handle, the fastgoat or velocitygoat or speedgoat or something goat... Skined a couple hogs with it... Unimpressed... Even the blade shape hinders, rather than helps... It lives in my truck somewhere now... Never used it since... Again, you are absolutly right! Thanks for sharing and being honnest! 👍👍
I can hear the shock and disbelief in your voice grow as the video goes on. Crazy that a company is pushing this misinformation out to the public and seems to truly believe it. Praying for you always. Have a great day!
The spine marks are from when the blanks were cut out, I have liked their designs but hated the finishing. The pricing is confusing when its marketed for working people.
You know, working, as in they lease a current model year school bus sized pickup truck that they keep perfectly clean to drive to work running their chain of car dealerships, which funds the frequent guided hunts they go on, where they get to use their $350 knife, the cheapest piece of equipment on their person. Mostly on the charcruterie the guide provides, but maybe an elk!
Thank you for the video my totally awesome neighbor to the North. You're the best and so truthful that it's so refreshing to hear someone tell facts and truth. Thank you.
@@ericasedc You're welcome. I just watched a couple of those videos that you were talking about by Montana Knife Company and I agree with you when he was talking about sharpening, heat treat, burrs etc... and I have no idea what the deal is with all that. Why would you not want heat treat like you said and why would you want a burr on your knife? I don't get it. Which fixed bladed knives would you recommend?
They used to have a very deceiving chart on their website regarding hrc Rockwell hardness that made you think they were giving their knives a much higher heat treat than they were. I emailed the company to find out what hardness they were actually using. They replied back with 60 to 61 on their magnacut. It would be great to have that verified. Really appreciate your content and glad someone is speaking out regarding overpriced soft steels.
Erica great video. Thanks for shedding light on these $300 dollar knives. Don't mind paying - just want quality. Your steel knowledge is unmatched. Keep up the good work.
I have one of there speed goats I bought a couple years ago and it's a absolute work horse of a knife. Thin, light and super tough, holds an edge forever. I've processed several deer and elk from field to freezer and only stroped it once because I thought I probably should even though it wasn't really necessary. I personally love this knife and look forward to buying more of them. Great knife, great company.
Been waiting for you to get your paws on this knife.thin geometry made in usa and a great size for edc.i feel the tip is delicate on those for edc but it cuts good and is meant to cut meat and hide.thank you for reviewing this I'm off to work and will finish watching this when I get to work.
The handle shape is nice.the skeletonized tang I like.52100 I love but 300 is too much.its a 200 dollar knife.as far as the owner i always felt like he thinks he is king sh!+ and makes a better knife than the rest of the world.products can speak for themselves not good for humanity to poop on anybody to make urself look better.
I don't own a MKC knife, but I have been curious about them for awhile because I see alot of ads from them. Alot. I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this one. Have a great night, E!
Twas a knifey-lore Christmas, and all through Cabela's, not a creature was stirring-- they were all mounted on the wall. The fudds were all gathered by the knife counter without hair, in hopes that Saint Joshua soon would be there... With a discount code for 10% off a $300 unfinished knife.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s called BS on MKC. If they spend more time on QC and less on fake marketing they’d probably not be too bad. Jon with HST and myself just did a livestream calling them out
@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors Hey Gabe. I do have to agree with you. There’s a LOT of content on YT from them. And on CBS. Joe Rogan. Field and Stream. The list goes on. However, I also see a lot of knives over $300 with quality of.. $150 being generous? It doesn’t add up (to me). There’s just so much time spent marketing and calling everyone else in the community “lesser” essentially. It leaves me thinking… who’s making the knives? And why are they so… sub par?
@ I think they are some kind of slush fund/ponzi scheme personally. Highly speculative but they don’t really even produce their own knives, when I see them on prime time Faux News when they spawned out of nowhere I raise a lot of questions, especially when I see a bunch of fed boys/BRCC endorsing them then something doesn’t add up. You don’t just spawn up as a new company with millions in infrastructure and marketing from making sub par over priced knives
Thanks for the info. I guess I am glad that their products never made much of an impact on me. Never had a desire to get one of their products before and even less now. Keep it up and have a great Christmas and safe New Years!!!
It's sad that too many people fall for reviews from influencers who get gifted theses knives for free. If a reviewer gives a great review on something that does not live up to it more people need to call that out and stop letting these people have any influence in the community.
that was an interesting video. the leaving the burr on the knife and shipping it out is pretty wild. about the only time you ever hear of folks liking a burr edge is with some butchers. if you are cutting clean meat all day, then that burr will slice very agressively and is easy to stand back up again with a steel if or when you fold it over. but on a working/hunting knife it doesnt make much sense to me.
As a guy newer to the knife world(as opposed to a guy with knife) i really appreciate when i can find someone opinion thats seems to be genuine and has the knowledge and testing to back it up. From my perspective most of the "big guys" seem to push the same 10 or so brands and they're usually not US made. Now admittedly i simply cant afford to buy an all US made wardrobe, but a knife or 3. Once i pass that $150 mark it better be a knife for life with a warranty to back it up Personally domt care about cosmetics. Ill buy second hand happily if the blades been taken care of. My knives get used
Dude. Right. I really don’t get what the heck happened. Well. I think we all have a guess as to what is going on behind the scenes… in another country possibly… who knows. 😂
@@ericasedcI don’t think it’s another country. However I do think it’s about just tossing them out the door for max profit. Also, watching his lives, it’s a bunch of high school kids. Not throwing shade on that, just an observation.
I have really been seeing a lot of Josh and and MKC lately in the rithm haha. I have enjoyed some of the content they have released and i love some of the designs they have, but i have never owned one and probably never will 😂 i always appreciate these videos from you. Thank you for some info i can actually trust.👊💥
I don't have but a few small makers knives (semi custom) recently purchased a very small 2 finger knife from Freebooter. Didn't pay much for it but I was expecting better grinds and a tight sheath which wasn't the case. The reason I purchased it was it was the first blade in Magnacut for me. Should have saved my money. 🙄
I do have a mkc blade myself. The edge was not nearly as sharp for a $200 knife... that being said, the 52100 they ht takes a good edge very easy after few leather strop. The price is very high of course, but I believe it all went to the labors as well the warranty. They also do lots of charity, so the price is understandable for me.
Hi Erica, Spot On…. $300 for that, nope 👎. By the way I like both sides knife wise as you do. And your pup looks like me all week long 😴🙏. Glad you did this one it needed to be done ✅. Your thinking is on point. Back to resting 😴 like your pup 🐶 ❤️👍
Well thank you for saving me$ 300. Because I would have eventually purchased that knife to add to my collection but now I will stay away from that entire brand
I have the magnacut speedgoat and triumph. I have used my speedgoat for everything from cutting duct work to food prep as well as some job specific task’s and my other knife rides on my hunting pack. I personally love my speedgoat and it takes and holds a wicked edge however I as well do not like those marks on the spine of mine, yours is not a one off it is left on there from what I understand as I have seen others with it. While it isn’t serious enough for me to sell it the marks shouldn’t be there for what they charge. They definitely lean into the “American made” thing and overall I do like my MKC knives but i just don’t think the value is there especially since they are marketed towards blue collar, working class people, but I do like what they stand for. This isn’t a negative review of MKC just my experience with their products and honest thoughts of their brand.
@@ericasedcShe is a british singer and was a important role in the dark wave genre back in the 80s. One of her famous songs is "our darkness". 😉 Btw Erica, another great video! 🎉
Hey sista! IMHO, it’s great for me to have a tried & true different opinion than my own on these related subjects. You see things from another angle, and for me, I like having tons of information on things before I invest. I very much appreciate your content!!! Thank you!!! 🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🍺
Bought a MKC Stonewall Skinner about two years ago. Decent knife. Paid $350.00. Packaging high quality. Knife decent but, for the money.......Ahhhh. I emailed them and said they could sell more knives to the average person and their response was, they put a lot of time and effort into R and D. I gotta say. I have made knives and using R and D seems rather lame as you just think of a design and make it. Not rocket science in the end. I won't buy another as I can get a real custom made knife for less.
@@ericasedc same with Architect knives from The Knife Connection. I was thinking about getting one till I saw they use 1095 at 56-58 and 3V at 58-60. That's pathetic. That means I could cut a chunk out of an Architect with my Benchmade Undercurrent
Hey Erica and everyone! Do you or anyone else think MKC is like a knife industry plant that’s been hyper marketed on social media and other kinds of media causing it to have such a large following in such a short amount of time? I’m honestly not trying to hate on anyone so please, I hope no one takes it that way. I just don’t understand how “assembly line-like” knives with very basic steels are being sold for such exorbitant prices. It’s like an ESEE material, steel, and quality with 40% less effort on fit and finish, for double the money. And if I’m being too critical please tell me.
@@ericasedc Then you're both morons. You both literally said magnacut is a "very basic steel" on par with ESEE, which is as dishonest as you can possible kid.
A friend of mine who's a distant cousin bought a Montana Knife Company Knife. I told him i think its junk. Im going to start making knives here in New York. I will let you know when I get some ready
If I'm looking for a premium knife (~150 to 200+ range) with the best quality and great warranty/customer service I will go with Tops or White River Knives every time. I don't personally have any experience with MKC, but their prices are absolutely atrocious when there are USA made options that are just as high quality (or better).
@@Swearengen1980 Yes, but their 1095 heat treat is very different from many other companies. When done right, 1095 is a great steel. Never had a Tops knife break or fail on me in any way, and I feel you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has. I'll admit their 1095 knives are more expensive than they should be, but they put out a premium product and they stand by their products.
@@ericasedc You'll like White River I think. They're precise with their heat treats and the people Architect Knives source their MagnaCut blanks from. The price seems reasonable for large 62HRC MagnaCut blanks for as thick as they are, and I don't fault them for 'only' treating to 62 as Larrin mentions quenching thicker MagnaCut blades above the 62 Rockwell sweet spot can be tricky as the slower cool time compared his test coupons potentially results in excessive austenite (less corrosion resistance). The AK4.5 MagnaCut blank is $134 when it's in stock, which seems reasonable for a blade that accepts readily available ESEE scales.
There were a handful of fixie companies that were not heat treating their knives btw...One was actually fairly popular, I can't remember the name though...people had suspicions and one day the owner said, no lol
Thank you for the review Erica, I ordered a MKC Blackfoot 2.0 in Magnacut last year. It had the same tooling marks all down the spine of the knife top and bottom side. It also still had the burr attached so it would not cut the construction paper they sent out with the packaging. I have seen some less expensive knives sent out this way, for the premium price they charge they should hire a quality control team member. I was expecting to recieve a knife that would cut paper. Josh and the Team seem like a great bunch of guys. Hopefully they can put a nicer finish on their blades coming out today.
It’s not a review of the knife at all as my reviews run a month consecutively and I have to sharpen the knife etc. This was just my 2 cents on their content really. The knives are sub par in my opinion for the money for sure. I hope they decide to do better!!!! 🥰🥰
@@Swearengen1980 ...what? She isn't 'preying' on anyone, given her channel isn't monetized and she doesn't make any money from knives other people sell...
I can't believe that they would ship a knife like that! It takes no effort to run the knife around the grinder and clean it up. Literally a couple minutes. The burr disinformation is even worse! I wouldn't trust them for anything! The old steels don't have to be thick and soft either. They can be surprisingly good when done right, which you have seen in testing.
Selling 420 steel steak knives in g10 for hundreds of $$$ is freaking crazy. Also it’s not all in house Infact most of the steel is out of house. This company drives me crazy. Trying to be black rifle coffe of the knife world exept the coffee is good and MKC knives just stink unfortunately.
I want to like them as I love supporting small USA made companies. But, the juice doesn’t equal the squeeze with them. They spend too much on marketing and pass the costs onto the consumer. For the same money, you can get a knife from Carothers Performance Knives, TRC or TJ Schwarz for the same money that are arguably “better” in every way.
Thanks for your prospective, I have come up with the same conclusions. What is that small, thin, hard HRC orange handled knife? The one your friend was using in the short video processing a deer. Thanks.
Ok first off I support as many American companies as possible but not if the product sucks especially for that price. The grind marks being left on the tang and burr left on the edge is just pure laziness. They can spin it however they want but it’s just simple laziness. Thats not to say that is the workers fault! They are given quality specs to go by and this is what they are being told to make. Send that knife to me and I could have that tang cleaned up and polished in a half hour or less. Personally that company is not worth your time or attention. There are much more important and better products to feature. That said I appreciate the video as all I o own of them is the legal issues.
I’ve personally never understood the price on MKC knives, I can see the lack in quality and innovation just from videos, I hate to sound like a knife snob but they strike me as a marketing company making mid grade knives. You can look at the badger or dart or even a bravo one or bushcrafter and see the immense difference in quality and production. I’m so sick of hearing the hardness makes for chippy steel. I use a lw manix maxamet or many others in k390 everyday very hard and have for years and have never experienced that, it’s one of those things people just regurgitate. Always love the fact you’re never scared to call companies out. Excellent take on situation and video.
I’m not a MKC defender or even owner but did you look any further into the case after Knafs put that video out at the very beginning of the lawsuit? Benchmade threw it out less than a month later because there was zero evidence that MKC was employee poaching or trying to access any of Benchmade’s R&D. Not only that, MKC is now suing Benchmade because it did give MKC a bad name for no reason. Also Benchmade has had its own controversies over the years as well. MKC’s actual knives aside, I’ve listened to Josh Smith talk quite a bit in long form on his podcast and others and he seems like a very stand up guy who went from well known custom knife maker into the production knife game.
Yeah I can see where your coming from. Seems like they chose to leave the machine marks as an esthetic choice because It does look like they put a polish on it.
Got one of their new tactical knives and was blown away by how dull it was when I received it. Not even close to shaving arm hair and could barely cut printer paper. Very unimpressed by the price I paid as at best it had a fading working edge and needed to be sharpened right away. It also had the same belt marks on the backside of the tang as you showed in this video. It was the first and it will be the last MKC knife I buy.
That looks more like marks from the dies that stamped out the blanks. They should havd been ground out (ie with a grinder) before polishing. Not very impressive tbh.
Those tooling marks are ugly af and make the blade look not finished. And I would also be disappointed if I got a knife brand new with a burr and a dull edge on it if I paid that much money!!!
If you’re into custom handmade knives then obviously buying knives from a startup trying to re-establish manufacturing in America aren’t going to suit you. We all want American manufacturing to come back, but then are cut throat with our judgement as the companies are trying to start, stay in the green, move 1000mph, and provide quality enough products. These guys are marketing to hunters and outdoorsman… not knife enthusiasts. The people they are marketing to know nothing so getting magnacut edge retention feels like Rex 121 on steroids to them. They do a good job on their heat treat and edge geometry and at the end of the day that’s what matters. You can sharpen an imperfect factory edge. Working knives for working people. Not show pieces for collectors and testers. I’m sure if they made their videos 30mins long and bored the shit out of people who don’t give af in the first place, they’d lose much of their market. They’re trying to introduce people who think a buck 110 in 420HC is the holy grail of knives into slightly higher quality stuff. Can’t jump from that to Rex 121 level stuff with them. Look at his podcast on the meat eaters talking to all those guys how to sharpen. They literally know nothing and don’t give af. They were literally getting bored with his 5 minute schpeel during the podcast. So yea they are trying to be really dumb and selective with what they say. Obviously nothing you said is wrong or false, but I think just nit picking a company trying to be an American manufacturing power house for stuff that is not even anywhere close to their goal in the first place.
I would intend for the most part to agree with your point - if not for the three hundred dollar plus price and for 52100 no less Yes they’re trying to get off the ground but they prices say benchmade ego to me
@@mickdorton1653 like I said nothing she said was wrong. I just think this is the wrong group reviewing and commenting on the wrong knife. Relative to the knives their target market have been using, these knives are actually like the 2nd coming of christ. And they get the 2 most important factors right. Heat treatment and edge geometry. I am almost positive I’ve seen a video where they talk about the tooling marks being slightly grippier than full polish. So whatever you think about a knife needing to look perfect, they seem to think there’s a working function to it. So not really sure you can classify that as QC. Like everybody, finding good work is hard at the moment and I’m sure they’re going through the ringer trying to find and vet good sharpeners especially with how fast they are growing. But regardless, there is a huge camp in the knife community that likes to put their own edge on factory knives anyway. And whether spyderco, or bench made, or whoever… the typical understanding seems to be mass produced knives typically need a good sharpening or 2. But people don’t gripe about it to hard as long as heat treat and overall geometry are fine. So kind of not useful to nit pick a mass produced factory edge. Especially with a sample size of 1. I’m sure most followers here are knife enthusiast purist and there’s a very small representation of MKC’s target market so I wouldn’t use this comment section as an unbiased poll of “so many people get bad factory edges from them” they have a Facebook fan page of ≈ 10k and everyone seems to be happy there. All day everyday people posting pictures of processing animals. Just happy to vote with their dollars for American manufacturing. The owner of the company is actually a blade smith and hunter. If you truly want something special and perfect with a story behind it, go support your small local guy. Nothing wrong with that. But in the land of coca-cola and Doritos and Budweiser and Super Bowl commercials, there is a huge market for MKC’s style. Nothing wrong with that. Not everybody wants to put a custom order in with Johnny the custom knife maker 2 hours away that has 323 followers on IG that’ll take 3 months to get to them. There’s nothing wrong with that.
@@Passively-Prepared dude you must be replying to someone elses’ comment because nothing I said in mine would warrant nearly any of what you said At all Kind of sounds like ur personally invested I’m not but in all seriousness I think Erica knows more about knives than anyone at mkc and imo if their business model is charging 300$+ to sportsman who really don’t know any better but just want something better than a buck then shame on them
I own a lot of MKC models now, and I have noticed a couple models that came with funky edges. However I’ve had most of them come with fantastic edges. They have that toothy-ness like Benchmade but better I think. I also remember when that video came out and thinking it was incorrect about the burr, as well as the marks on the spine. I have had some pretty bad ones with that. I even put it in a review. I said something along the lines of “It doesn’t bother me a ton especially because I can fix it with my work sharp, but others will want to see better finishing on their blades they are paying for.” To me, they are like my Emerson’s. Some rough finish markings and expensive but they do a job and do it well from my experience. I will for sure have the same criticisms for both companies until they are fixed. But I still love them and they work well for me in my experience. I think a lot of what they do is a step in the right direction to the folks that don’t know much about cutlery aside from their grandpas Buck or a Havalon/outdoor edge. That being said, I want to see them grow and IMPROVE because that’s what matters! Ps. I let my buddy who is a butcher use my stonewall to process all the deer everyone brought in during season and he put over 18 deer on without sharpening it aside from using rods to touch up. He said it was a favorite for others to use as well. Rest assured, they work! If you have any questions on them feel free to ask me because I’ve sharpened many of them too! Great vid Erica, if word spreads then tweaks/improvements will be made I’m sure with the companies that care!:) sharpbypopulardemand 📸
@ericasedc of course and thanks for putting the video out there. Gotta have folks like you to put the word out so companies can make improvements, and I really think this is a company that even though it’s growing very rapidly is still in its infancy and could take the criticism to improve. I hope they do, and don’t respond like other companies I won’t name (but we all know).
Hey Erica. love your content. Congrats. on your new place,the dog obviously feels right at home. Not that I care what you look like but, those piercings go right through your energy points and are not helping your energy. Not my words but, the words of Ramtha the Enlightened one. Godspeed T.
@@tomjensen618 I don’t think this is the place to express your opinions on my physical appearance. The video is about knives. It would be more helpful if your comments were about the topic at hand.
Selling $400 kitchen knives when you can get a victorinox for $40 that’s actually designed to cut meat. I’m surprised Montana knife company hasn’t come out with “MagnaCut” forks and spoons for back country hunters
Hit the nail on the head. Just a company taking advantage of people with a brand name and marketing what’s trendy. Bearded butchers, Steve rinella, John Dudley, cameron Hanes and of course Joe Rogan are all payed to promote a company that has no right to be doing what they are.
MKC = Fake it until you make it. Seriously though, if Crucible Steel goes under in March...MKC might not survive. MKC is so overextended right now because they are building a new manufacturing facility. (they literally work out of the owner's "garage." ) They are a hunting brand with a heavy marketing strategy that also makes knives. I've followed them since the beginning and even considered working for them, but I think they are quickly building a name brand large enough to simply sell to investors. Honestly, I'd wait three years before buying another MKC knife to see how they evolve as a company. Boom or Bust
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The waterjet marks on the outer profile is basically MKC version of "thick for toughness "
They gaslight the community into thinking it's "rustic" when it's just lazy.
I will bet anyone any amount of money they have $40 all cost into that knife and sheath and they won't spend the time and cost to finish the profile because they don't have anyone skilled enough to do it and /or they don't wanna pay the cost to have the blanks cut oversized then milled or ground down to fit the scales.
The scales are most likely milled to an exact dimensions so they will line up with the profile of the blade
the only think human hands touch is putting scales on and sharpening.
Right. Which for $300 is… disturbing. It’s just a wicked bummer!
@@ericasedc I was particularly disappointed to learn Steve Rinella has a knife made with them. Steve's normally one of 'forces for good' that I point to when people slag the outdoor community.
I suspect the same
@@vanq86 i dont think Steve has any idea that any of this is an issue.
I have a mkc speedgoat in magnacut and 52100 and a mini speedgiat in 52100. When Josh co owner was talk about steel being to hard to sharpen at high hrc it was before they offer any knives in magnacut. When they started mkc inky had knives in 52100 and talk about how it was stronger and easier to sharpen in field or touch it up on a strop or ceramic rod so nit so good marketing now that they have magnacut heard they get knife blanks in cut to shape and size and heat treated already they are just put treat pakarized on 52100 or cerakote and mirror polished or cerakote on magnacut. While I like how thin thee knives are mine are cord wrapped lightweight hunting knives I like them they work well and have lifetime replacement and sharpen through them so like benchmade but without have to pay for blade replacement I see value if you break your knives you get a new one so that good, but you are paying through noise up front for a knife in 52100 it cost same as magnacut which is crazy to me. Love there knives fir being lightweight .10 at edge and .90 at spine they work well as a hunting knife but yea they do feel over price. When I bought mine 3 and 2 years ago I thought they were doing everything in house grind down cut out heat treating when i found out on one of there podcast that all they do is treat steel and grind an edge on them kind of was disappointed there still usa made which is good but they are just like every other knife company to me they don’t make knives they assemble a knife in my option. I will be supporting northern knives and others like Levi who do everything in house start to finish for nit much more money. I would still like to see you test there knives they seem to sharpen well I don’t have any “bur” lol issue they all sharpen and take a good edge and work well like to your option on heat treat on them and see what your getting other than machine marks, another note is 52100 steel knives from them have smooth no marks on spine but all magnacut knives have rough spines they was weird to me their 52100 knives seem alot better finished than knives done in magnacut.
I love how the doggy was passed out on the bed the entire time lol living the life!
@@JunkyardFox funny thing is James, his middle name is your name! Kovu James Slater!!! He’s a HAM. Allllll he does is sleep!
Every video should have a sneaky sleepy background pup. 🥰
@ truth!!!!
My guess is just old way of thinking or outdated knowledge, I'm sure at one point steels over 63 were difficult to sharpen before we learned about abrasives. However once we learned abrasives matter we learned that the high hardness steels not only sharpen easier with proper heat treatment but de burr like 10× easier leading to a much much sharper edges that last way longer and is easily honed and stropped back.
I guess because he’s not that old, I figure he may know better. For some reason this particular marketing tactic targets his aimed demographic in the way he expects them to accept it best. He is aiming for hunters and avid outdoorsmen. They would be the ones with the outdated and uneducated thoughts on knives. I believe Josh may know better though.
If the price matched the finish quality I wouldn't mind it so much, but trying to pass this as a premium, semi-custom knife when they can't be bothered to finish it is inexcusable.
Agreed.
100% agree... I have one... The one with paracord wrapped handle, the fastgoat or velocitygoat or speedgoat or something goat... Skined a couple hogs with it... Unimpressed... Even the blade shape hinders, rather than helps... It lives in my truck somewhere now... Never used it since... Again, you are absolutly right! Thanks for sharing and being honnest! 👍👍
@@ASimao71 great to hear feedback from someone who has used it! Thanks so much for sharing. Hopefully they improve!
There's a lot going on with this company. It's basically a front for something that has nothing to do with knives. Just like Black Rifle Coffee.
You are right there with the rest of us confused about the whole thing🎉😂
I can hear the shock and disbelief in your voice grow as the video goes on. Crazy that a company is pushing this misinformation out to the public and seems to truly believe it.
Praying for you always. Have a great day!
I appreciate you so much!❤
The spine marks are from when the blanks were cut out, I have liked their designs but hated the finishing. The pricing is confusing when its marketed for working people.
Yes. I agree with this.
@@ericasedc The working edge thing would make sense if they sharpened to a lower grit and removed the burr.
You know, working, as in they lease a current model year school bus sized pickup truck that they keep perfectly clean to drive to work running their chain of car dealerships, which funds the frequent guided hunts they go on, where they get to use their $350 knife, the cheapest piece of equipment on their person. Mostly on the charcruterie the guide provides, but maybe an elk!
Thank you for the video my totally awesome neighbor to the North. You're the best and so truthful that it's so refreshing to hear someone tell facts and truth. Thank you.
@@crazyone5409 thank YOU for the support and kind words!
@@ericasedc You're welcome. I just watched a couple of those videos that you were talking about by Montana Knife Company and I agree with you when he was talking about sharpening, heat treat, burrs etc... and I have no idea what the deal is with all that.
Why would you not want heat treat like you said and why would you want a burr on your knife? I don't get it.
Which fixed bladed knives would you recommend?
@ the videos are very odd. I have a number of videos on that- please check them out and let me know if you have further questions after!🥰🥰
@@ericasedc I absolutely will
@ I really appreciate you
Would love to put this under a Rockwell tester
Do it and share it please. I certainly would like to know.
@ I would guess looking at the polish that it’s 60. Erica would have to send it to me.
I would be VERY curious of the results!
@ send it
They used to have a very deceiving chart on their website regarding hrc Rockwell hardness that made you think they were giving their knives a much higher heat treat than they were. I emailed the company to find out what hardness they were actually using. They replied back with 60 to 61 on their magnacut. It would be great to have that verified. Really appreciate your content and glad someone is speaking out regarding overpriced soft steels.
intentionally leaving a burr might be the dumbest shit I have heard in a very long time....I almost don't even believe he said that out loud haha
@@paullmight42 go watch the video man. It’s wild haha
Erica great video. Thanks for shedding light on these $300 dollar knives. Don't mind paying - just want quality. Your steel knowledge is unmatched. Keep up the good work.
@@huntingfishingpraying hey I really appreciate you brother!!!!
@ 👊👊👊
I have one of there speed goats I bought a couple years ago and it's a absolute work horse of a knife. Thin, light and super tough, holds an edge forever. I've processed several deer and elk from field to freezer and only stroped it once because I thought I probably should even though it wasn't really necessary. I personally love this knife and look forward to buying more of them. Great knife, great company.
So glad you enjoy them!!!! That makes me happy to hear!!!
I have a bearing steel speed goat and like it, but those tooling marks and a burr?
Been waiting for you to get your paws on this knife.thin geometry made in usa and a great size for edc.i feel the tip is delicate on those for edc but it cuts good and is meant to cut meat and hide.thank you for reviewing this I'm off to work and will finish watching this when I get to work.
Excited to hear your feedback after.
The handle shape is nice.the skeletonized tang I like.52100 I love but 300 is too much.its a 200 dollar knife.as far as the owner i always felt like he thinks he is king sh!+ and makes a better knife than the rest of the world.products can speak for themselves not good for humanity to poop on anybody to make urself look better.
@ haha love this
I don't own a MKC knife, but I have been curious about them for awhile because I see alot of ads from them. Alot. I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this one. Have a great night, E!
Sweet dreams D!😊😊❤❤
Twas a knifey-lore Christmas, and all through Cabela's, not a creature was stirring-- they were all mounted on the wall. The fudds were all gathered by the knife counter without hair, in hopes that Saint Joshua soon would be there... With a discount code for 10% off a $300 unfinished knife.
@@LoreTunderin YOU DID NOT JUST MAKE THAT UP!!!!!
@ericasedc Scout's honour 😊
I've always avoided them just due to sheer astroturffing... Every major podcast and youtuber started shilling them overnight. Montana Podcast Co
@@hinnomtx yes. It’s sorta strange. Fishy even.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s called BS on MKC. If they spend more time on QC and less on fake marketing they’d probably not be too bad. Jon with HST and myself just did a livestream calling them out
@@thelasthuntsmanoutdoors Hey Gabe. I do have to agree with you. There’s a LOT of content on YT from them. And on CBS. Joe Rogan. Field and Stream. The list goes on. However, I also see a lot of knives over $300 with quality of.. $150 being generous? It doesn’t add up (to me). There’s just so much time spent marketing and calling everyone else in the community “lesser” essentially. It leaves me thinking… who’s making the knives? And why are they so… sub par?
@ I think they are some kind of slush fund/ponzi scheme personally. Highly speculative but they don’t really even produce their own knives, when I see them on prime time Faux News when they spawned out of nowhere I raise a lot of questions, especially when I see a bunch of fed boys/BRCC endorsing them then something doesn’t add up.
You don’t just spawn up as a new company with millions in infrastructure and marketing from making sub par over priced knives
Thanks for the info. I guess I am glad that their products never made much of an impact on me. Never had a desire to get one of their products before and even less now. Keep it up and have a great Christmas and safe New Years!!!
@@barboki happy holidays my brother!!!!🥰🥰🥰🥰
It's sad that too many people fall for reviews from influencers who get gifted theses knives for free. If a reviewer gives a great review on something that does not live up to it more people need to call that out and stop letting these people have any influence in the community.
@@zdbrownie THIS!
that was an interesting video. the leaving the burr on the knife and shipping it out is pretty wild. about the only time you ever hear of folks liking a burr edge is with some butchers. if you are cutting clean meat all day, then that burr will slice very agressively and is easy to stand back up again with a steel if or when you fold it over. but on a working/hunting knife it doesnt make much sense to me.
@@joecalton1449 I agree Joe. The whole company intrigues me. I don’t quite understand the mission.
As a guy newer to the knife world(as opposed to a guy with knife) i really appreciate when i can find someone opinion thats seems to be genuine and has the knowledge and testing to back it up. From my perspective most of the "big guys" seem to push the same 10 or so brands and they're usually not US made. Now admittedly i simply cant afford to buy an all US made wardrobe, but a knife or 3. Once i pass that $150 mark it better be a knife for life with a warranty to back it up
Personally domt care about cosmetics. Ill buy second hand happily if the blades been taken care of. My knives get used
@@mrmouse-ol9pw thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
They sure know how to make a 300 dollar knife not worth 300.
At this point they make my knives look cheap 🤣
Dude. Right. I really don’t get what the heck happened. Well. I think we all have a guess as to what is going on behind the scenes… in another country possibly… who knows. 😂
@@ericasedcI don’t think it’s another country. However I do think it’s about just tossing them out the door for max profit. Also, watching his lives, it’s a bunch of high school kids. Not throwing shade on that, just an observation.
@ yeah I hear ya!!!
@@Primitivebearknives I guess I should correct myself. They look and feel like they are not made here to USA Quality Standards.
I have really been seeing a lot of Josh and and MKC lately in the rithm haha. I have enjoyed some of the content they have released and i love some of the designs they have, but i have never owned one and probably never will 😂 i always appreciate these videos from you. Thank you for some info i can actually trust.👊💥
@@R.H.bladeNshade I hope the knives get better. I’d enjoy them more!
I don't have but a few small makers knives (semi custom) recently purchased a very small 2 finger knife from Freebooter. Didn't pay much for it but I was expecting better grinds and a tight sheath which wasn't the case. The reason I purchased it was it was the first blade in Magnacut for me. Should have saved my money. 🙄
Oh no!!!!
@@ericasedc
Live and learn. At least the little beastie has a sharp edge and a decent finish on it.
I do have a mkc blade myself. The edge was not nearly as sharp for a $200 knife... that being said, the 52100 they ht takes a good edge very easy after few leather strop. The price is very high of course, but I believe it all went to the labors as well the warranty. They also do lots of charity, so the price is understandable for me.
@@asfawr1699 I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and experience 🥰🥰
Keep up the great work!
Thank you- I’ll try!
I have that knife and other high end hunting knives. I just looked to see what i carry in my lil hunting bag. It's a $30 buck Omni hunter 10pt
@@chriswood3390 awesome!
Marketing experts..
That they are haha VERY clever at marketing.
Omg wow thank you!!! Haha I had just asked about this. You’re the best
Any time❤
Been waiting to catch up on the channel! Excited for this one
It’s a banger!🎉😂
Hi Erica, Spot On…. $300 for that, nope 👎. By the way I like both sides knife wise as you do. And your pup looks like me all week long 😴🙏. Glad you did this one it needed to be done ✅. Your thinking is on point. Back to resting 😴 like your pup 🐶 ❤️👍
@@Sanctified_Leather been praying for you S!!!
@ ❤️🙏
If its made in USA, has "MADE IN USA" on it and is expensive it must be good? right? RIGH? They can't be just benfiting from patriotic people??
Haha oooof shots fired!🎉😂
Haha razor blades don’t grab hair……. Uhm…. I beg to differ 😂 another amazing video ❤
Thanks cutie
Well thank you for saving me$ 300. Because I would have eventually purchased that knife to add to my collection but now I will stay away from that entire brand
@@Locoedc909 I hope the knives get better and become worth the money!
Thx for your honest opinion
@@anthonymusso5282 thank you for watching!
I have the magnacut speedgoat and triumph. I have used my speedgoat for everything from cutting duct work to food prep as well as some job specific task’s and my other knife rides on my hunting pack. I personally love my speedgoat and it takes and holds a wicked edge however I as well do not like those marks on the spine of mine, yours is not a one off it is left on there from what I understand as I have seen others with it. While it isn’t serious enough for me to sell it the marks shouldn’t be there for what they charge. They definitely lean into the “American made” thing and overall I do like my MKC knives but i just don’t think the value is there especially since they are marketed towards blue collar, working class people, but I do like what they stand for. This isn’t a negative review of MKC just my experience with their products and honest thoughts of their brand.
@@Adude89 I really appreciate this comment. Thank you for sharing and it sounds like we agree on a few things!
@ watch my EDC fixed blade video to find out!!! 🥰🥰also thanks so much for the support!!!
Erica your voice always reminds me of Anne Clark. 😂
No idea who that is haha
@@ericasedcShe is a british singer and was a important role in the dark wave genre back in the 80s. One of her famous songs is "our darkness". 😉
Btw Erica, another great video! 🎉
@ thanks so much!
Hey sista! IMHO, it’s great for me to have a tried & true different opinion than my own on these related subjects. You see things from another angle, and for me, I like having tons of information on things before I invest. I very much appreciate your content!!! Thank you!!! 🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🙏🏼🇺🇸🔪🍺
@@JohnnyQ714 I appreciate YOU Johnny!!!!
That’s pretty sad and I would have returned it immediately but also got in touch to see maybe it was a one off.
@@rolandsilvajr1 we did it’s all of them
Bought a MKC Stonewall Skinner about two years ago. Decent knife. Paid $350.00. Packaging high quality. Knife decent but, for the money.......Ahhhh. I emailed them and said they could sell more knives to the average person and their response was, they put a lot of time and effort into R and D. I gotta say. I have made knives and using R and D seems rather lame as you just think of a design and make it. Not rocket science in the end. I won't buy another as I can get a real custom made knife for less.
I have customs WAY nicer than this that I paid less for. 😅
@ amen and great video
I think R&D = marketing for them. They spent a lot 'researching' how to separate fudds from their money.
@ Can’t argue with them teaching how to make the most on each knife. My argument was make them cheaper to buy and sell more to the average person
So MKC is just another BRK/LTWK. High prices for soft steel
@@dualsportoutdoors YES. You caught my hints. 🤣
@@ericasedc same with Architect knives from The Knife Connection. I was thinking about getting one till I saw they use 1095 at 56-58 and 3V at 58-60. That's pathetic. That means I could cut a chunk out of an Architect with my Benchmade Undercurrent
@ woah that is messed up
@@ericasedc right? Pretty damn sad
You think MKC knives are expensive on their website??? Look at the prices on E bay from the scalpers. From $500.00, even up to $650.00...
Woah!😂
Nock on triumph sl on ebay at $350. Contacted the seller with an lol he responded I could get it for $ 300 I laughed again.
Hey Erica and everyone! Do you or anyone else think MKC is like a knife industry plant that’s been hyper marketed on social media and other kinds of media causing it to have such a large following in such a short amount of time?
I’m honestly not trying to hate on anyone so please, I hope no one takes it that way. I just don’t understand how “assembly line-like” knives with very basic steels are being sold for such exorbitant prices. It’s like an ESEE material, steel, and quality with 40% less effort on fit and finish, for double the money. And if I’m being too critical please tell me.
@@christopherlarson7579 well. You read my mind Chris. 🤣
@@ericasedc Then you're both morons. You both literally said magnacut is a "very basic steel" on par with ESEE, which is as dishonest as you can possible kid.
@@Swearengen1980... Did anybody else hear that? It's like someone sucked the oxygen out of the room and we all got a little dumber for a moment there
A friend of mine who's a distant cousin bought a Montana Knife Company Knife. I told him i think its junk. Im going to start making knives here in New York. I will let you know when I get some ready
Can’t wait to see what you come up with!🎉🎉🎉
If I'm looking for a premium knife (~150 to 200+ range) with the best quality and great warranty/customer service I will go with Tops or White River Knives every time. I don't personally have any experience with MKC, but their prices are absolutely atrocious when there are USA made options that are just as high quality (or better).
@@Grooove_e I need to try White River
Dude, Tops has 1095 blades in the 200s range. They are not even comparable.
@@Swearengen1980 1095 should NEVER be $200🤣
@@Swearengen1980 Yes, but their 1095 heat treat is very different from many other companies. When done right, 1095 is a great steel. Never had a Tops knife break or fail on me in any way, and I feel you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has. I'll admit their 1095 knives are more expensive than they should be, but they put out a premium product and they stand by their products.
@@ericasedc You'll like White River I think. They're precise with their heat treats and the people Architect Knives source their MagnaCut blanks from. The price seems reasonable for large 62HRC MagnaCut blanks for as thick as they are, and I don't fault them for 'only' treating to 62 as Larrin mentions quenching thicker MagnaCut blades above the 62 Rockwell sweet spot can be tricky as the slower cool time compared his test coupons potentially results in excessive austenite (less corrosion resistance). The AK4.5 MagnaCut blank is $134 when it's in stock, which seems reasonable for a blade that accepts readily available ESEE scales.
There were a handful of fixie companies that were not heat treating their knives btw...One was actually fairly popular, I can't remember the name though...people had suspicions and one day the owner said, no lol
@@paullmight42 huh. Never heard of such a thing!
@@ericasedc yea, i wanna say it was trench knives? or something very similar...im trying to find it
@@paullmight42Shed, he was only doing cryo on his 154CM. I believe they did start heat treating them after a few complaints.
Thank you for the review Erica, I ordered a MKC Blackfoot 2.0 in Magnacut last year. It had the same tooling marks all down the spine of the knife top and bottom side. It also still had the burr attached so it would not cut the construction paper they sent out with the packaging. I have seen some less expensive knives sent out this way, for the premium price they charge they should hire a quality control team member. I was expecting to recieve a knife that would cut paper. Josh and the Team seem like a great bunch of guys. Hopefully they can put a nicer finish on their blades coming out today.
It’s not a review of the knife at all as my reviews run a month consecutively and I have to sharpen the knife etc. This was just my 2 cents on their content really. The knives are sub par in my opinion for the money for sure. I hope they decide to do better!!!! 🥰🥰
@ericasedc I was thinking review of MKC quality, etc. Its good that someone spoke up about the quality of their finished products.
@ gotchya. Yes I hope they improve. I truly do.
Well said!!!
@@CaseySackett thanks. I really tried taking a neutral stance while maintaining my curiosity about the whole situation.
@ well you did great!
What steel does this knife have? I don't think you mentioned that in this video! It's probably 1095 carbon steel..
@@Locoedc909 supposedly Magnacut
@@ericasedc Supposedly. You clearly prey on the ignorant who buy into your toxic nonsense.
@@Swearengen1980 ...what? She isn't 'preying' on anyone, given her channel isn't monetized and she doesn't make any money from knives other people sell...
In my opinion that is a unfinished knife. When you pay, is for quality products. I see better job on products from China.
@@mannynieves493 it feels like it’s not even made here 😔
@@ericasedc I agree.
Hate knives that look like it should be cutting my steak not sit on my belt
@@mrmouse-ol9pw I hear you
I can't believe that they would ship a knife like that! It takes no effort to run the knife around the grinder and clean it up. Literally a couple minutes. The burr disinformation is even worse! I wouldn't trust them for anything! The old steels don't have to be thick and soft either. They can be surprisingly good when done right, which you have seen in testing.
Yeah the whole thing is just weird!!!
Good Lord those tooling marks!! It looks like they took it right off the mill and sent it off to polish...
@@jimbusmaximus4624 yep…
Selling 420 steel steak knives in g10 for hundreds of $$$ is freaking crazy. Also it’s not all in house Infact most of the steel is out of house. This company drives me crazy. Trying to be black rifle coffe of the knife world exept the coffee is good and MKC knives just stink unfortunately.
@@stephenlukovich9648 yeah 😔
I want to like them as I love supporting small USA made companies. But, the juice doesn’t equal the squeeze with them. They spend too much on marketing and pass the costs onto the consumer.
For the same money, you can get a knife from Carothers Performance Knives, TRC or TJ Schwarz for the same money that are arguably “better” in every way.
@@Steel_addiction71 absolutely agree.
If your interested in a small usa made company check out Tkell knives. Blades are fantastic
Thanks for your prospective, I have come up with the same conclusions. What is that small, thin, hard HRC orange handled knife? The one your friend was using in the short video processing a deer. Thanks.
That is my design with Levi. The Northern Knifeworks Dart and they are available. Message him on Instagram or email him!
Ok first off I support as many American companies as possible but not if the product sucks especially for that price. The grind marks being left on the tang and burr left on the edge is just pure laziness. They can spin it however they want but it’s just simple laziness. Thats not to say that is the workers fault! They are given quality specs to go by and this is what they are being told to make. Send that knife to me and I could have that tang cleaned up and polished in a half hour or less. Personally that company is not worth your time or attention. There are much more important and better products to feature. That said I appreciate the video as all I o own of them is the legal issues.
I totally agree Josh. It’s really unfortunate that this is what we get for $300!
I’ve personally never understood the price on MKC knives, I can see the lack in quality and innovation just from videos, I hate to sound like a knife snob but they strike me as a marketing company making mid grade knives. You can look at the badger or dart or even a bravo one or bushcrafter and see the immense difference in quality and production. I’m so sick of hearing the hardness makes for chippy steel. I use a lw manix maxamet or many others in k390 everyday very hard and have for years and have never experienced that, it’s one of those things people just regurgitate. Always love the fact you’re never scared to call companies out. Excellent take on situation and video.
@@tmille10 so glad you enjoyed it🥰🥰🥰🥰
I don't care. But the legal issue is that they were being sued by Benchmade for poaching employees. Knafs did a feature on the case.
@@Mr.Spectaculous yes I’m aware of what the case was.
I’m not a MKC defender or even owner but did you look any further into the case after Knafs put that video out at the very beginning of the lawsuit? Benchmade threw it out less than a month later because there was zero evidence that MKC was employee poaching or trying to access any of Benchmade’s R&D. Not only that, MKC is now suing Benchmade because it did give MKC a bad name for no reason. Also Benchmade has had its own controversies over the years as well.
MKC’s actual knives aside, I’ve listened to Josh Smith talk quite a bit in long form on his podcast and others and he seems like a very stand up guy who went from well known custom knife maker into the production knife game.
@@poncho151 I’ve listened to a LOT of his stuff as well.
Well I don't have to be a fan of the co to be a fan of there products. Never had a benchmade disappoint anything but my wallet
Yeah I can see where your coming from. Seems like they chose to leave the machine marks as an esthetic choice because It does look like they put a polish on it.
I highly doubt it's an esthetic choice. Economic more likely.
@@vanq86agreed.
I don’t think it’s for looks. It looks horrible.
Just wait they’ll have a knife “specifically made” for ducks for the duck dynasty crew next
@@CD10000 BAHAHAHA give it a few weeks🤣
Got one of their new tactical knives and was blown away by how dull it was when I received it. Not even close to shaving arm hair and could barely cut printer paper. Very unimpressed by the price I paid as at best it had a fading working edge and needed to be sharpened right away. It also had the same belt marks on the backside of the tang as you showed in this video. It was the first and it will be the last MKC knife I buy.
I keep hearing about the same issues I had. Such a bummer man. 😢
That looks more like marks from the dies that stamped out the blanks. They should havd been ground out (ie with a grinder) before polishing. Not very impressive tbh.
Agreed.
they are over priced.. thin stock also
I have to agree about the price.
Thin stock? Finally
@ Love thin stock
Thin stock is good for a knife that size, but the price is insane for an unfinished knife.
@ agreed!!!
Have several MKC knives and haven’t had any problems with the sharpness on them
Lucky you!
Those tooling marks are ugly af and make the blade look not finished. And I would also be disappointed if I got a knife brand new with a burr and a dull edge on it if I paid that much money!!!
@@nicoledodge7240 It’s honestly more confusing than anything haha I really just wanna know WHY they’re doing it🤣🤣🤣
If you’re into custom handmade knives then obviously buying knives from a startup trying to re-establish manufacturing in America aren’t going to suit you. We all want American manufacturing to come back, but then are cut throat with our judgement as the companies are trying to start, stay in the green, move 1000mph, and provide quality enough products. These guys are marketing to hunters and outdoorsman… not knife enthusiasts. The people they are marketing to know nothing so getting magnacut edge retention feels like Rex 121 on steroids to them. They do a good job on their heat treat and edge geometry and at the end of the day that’s what matters. You can sharpen an imperfect factory edge. Working knives for working people. Not show pieces for collectors and testers. I’m sure if they made their videos 30mins long and bored the shit out of people who don’t give af in the first place, they’d lose much of their market. They’re trying to introduce people who think a buck 110 in 420HC is the holy grail of knives into slightly higher quality stuff. Can’t jump from that to Rex 121 level stuff with them. Look at his podcast on the meat eaters talking to all those guys how to sharpen. They literally know nothing and don’t give af. They were literally getting bored with his 5 minute schpeel during the podcast. So yea they are trying to be really dumb and selective with what they say. Obviously nothing you said is wrong or false, but I think just nit picking a company trying to be an American manufacturing power house for stuff that is not even anywhere close to their goal in the first place.
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
I would intend for the most part to agree with your point - if not for the three hundred dollar plus price and for 52100 no less
Yes they’re trying to get off the ground but they prices say benchmade ego to me
@ you get it haha
@@mickdorton1653 like I said nothing she said was wrong. I just think this is the wrong group reviewing and commenting on the wrong knife. Relative to the knives their target market have been using, these knives are actually like the 2nd coming of christ. And they get the 2 most important factors right. Heat treatment and edge geometry. I am almost positive I’ve seen a video where they talk about the tooling marks being slightly grippier than full polish. So whatever you think about a knife needing to look perfect, they seem to think there’s a working function to it. So not really sure you can classify that as QC. Like everybody, finding good work is hard at the moment and I’m sure they’re going through the ringer trying to find and vet good sharpeners especially with how fast they are growing. But regardless, there is a huge camp in the knife community that likes to put their own edge on factory knives anyway. And whether spyderco, or bench made, or whoever… the typical understanding seems to be mass produced knives typically need a good sharpening or 2. But people don’t gripe about it to hard as long as heat treat and overall geometry are fine. So kind of not useful to nit pick a mass produced factory edge. Especially with a sample size of 1. I’m sure most followers here are knife enthusiast purist and there’s a very small representation of MKC’s target market so I wouldn’t use this comment section as an unbiased poll of “so many people get bad factory edges from them” they have a Facebook fan page of ≈ 10k and everyone seems to be happy there. All day everyday people posting pictures of processing animals. Just happy to vote with their dollars for American manufacturing. The owner of the company is actually a blade smith and hunter. If you truly want something special and perfect with a story behind it, go support your small local guy. Nothing wrong with that. But in the land of coca-cola and Doritos and Budweiser and Super Bowl commercials, there is a huge market for MKC’s style. Nothing wrong with that. Not everybody wants to put a custom order in with Johnny the custom knife maker 2 hours away that has 323 followers on IG that’ll take 3 months to get to them. There’s nothing wrong with that.
@@Passively-Prepared dude you must be replying to someone elses’ comment because nothing I said in mine would warrant nearly any of what you said
At all
Kind of sounds like ur personally invested
I’m not but in all seriousness I think Erica knows more about knives than anyone at mkc and imo if their business model is charging 300$+ to sportsman who really don’t know any better but just want something better than a buck then shame on them
I own a lot of MKC models now, and I have noticed a couple models that came with funky edges. However I’ve had most of them come with fantastic edges. They have that toothy-ness like Benchmade but better I think. I also remember when that video came out and thinking it was incorrect about the burr, as well as the marks on the spine. I have had some pretty bad ones with that. I even put it in a review. I said something along the lines of “It doesn’t bother me a ton especially because I can fix it with my work sharp, but others will want to see better finishing on their blades they are paying for.” To me, they are like my Emerson’s. Some rough finish markings and expensive but they do a job and do it well from my experience. I will for sure have the same criticisms for both companies until they are fixed. But I still love them and they work well for me in my experience. I think a lot of what they do is a step in the right direction to the folks that don’t know much about cutlery aside from their grandpas Buck or a Havalon/outdoor edge. That being said, I want to see them grow and IMPROVE because that’s what matters!
Ps. I let my buddy who is a butcher use my stonewall to process all the deer everyone brought in during season and he put over 18 deer on without sharpening it aside from using rods to touch up. He said it was a favorite for others to use as well. Rest assured, they work! If you have any questions on them feel free to ask me because I’ve sharpened many of them too! Great vid Erica, if word spreads then tweaks/improvements will be made I’m sure with the companies that care!:)
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@@billyspahr808 thanks so much for sharing all this information from your experience!
@ericasedc of course and thanks for putting the video out there. Gotta have folks like you to put the word out so companies can make improvements, and I really think this is a company that even though it’s growing very rapidly is still in its infancy and could take the criticism to improve. I hope they do, and don’t respond like other companies I won’t name (but we all know).
Hey Erica. love your content. Congrats. on your new place,the dog obviously feels right at home. Not that I care what you look like but, those piercings go right through your energy points and are not helping your energy. Not my words but, the words of Ramtha the Enlightened one. Godspeed T.
@@tomjensen618 I don’t think this is the place to express your opinions on my physical appearance. The video is about knives. It would be more helpful if your comments were about the topic at hand.
@@ericasedc My comment had nothing to do about your appearance.Just your well being.
@ no. Piercings have nothing to do with my well being. Please stop.
Selling $400 kitchen knives when you can get a victorinox for $40 that’s actually designed to cut meat. I’m surprised Montana knife company hasn’t come out with “MagnaCut” forks and spoons for back country hunters
@@CD10000 ok this made me giggle haha
@@ericasedc I better be careful I don’t want to give them any ideas
Hit the nail on the head. Just a company taking advantage of people with a brand name and marketing what’s trendy. Bearded butchers, Steve rinella, John Dudley, cameron Hanes and of course Joe Rogan are all payed to promote a company that has no right to be doing what they are.
@@CD10000 the famous people thing is interesting.
MKC = Fake it until you make it.
Seriously though, if Crucible Steel goes under in March...MKC might not survive. MKC is so overextended right now because they are building a new manufacturing facility. (they literally work out of the owner's "garage." ) They are a hunting brand with a heavy marketing strategy that also makes knives.
I've followed them since the beginning and even considered working for them, but I think they are quickly building a name brand large enough to simply sell to investors. Honestly, I'd wait three years before buying another MKC knife to see how they evolve as a company. Boom or Bust
@@Joel-bm8nk I’m curious to see what happens!