He did not load this bow according to the manufacturer. After the string comes back and you hear the click you backwind 1 turn. You then press the button on the stock to release the bolt carrier from the string and back wind again with just your fingers till it stops. This makes the bow more accurate.
I own the Havoc Xero. Great new technology, waiting for spring Indiana turkey season, I also have the Nitro XRT. I'm set with upcoming hunting seasons with a back up bow now.
Hope that you are able to grab the Havoc Xero, there is nothing like it out there for us sportsmen/women. If you are able to get this setup, and need some help setting it up, feel free to ask, I would be glad to help.
Hi Allie… I’m one of your fans.. Do you have any comment after you read mine on the location of P.J.’s fingers mid shaft while the bow is cocked ..This is a death to your fingers triangle.. Hey I miss your videos
Can't be cocked or let down from the left side. I am not aware of any brand of Xbow with an internal cranking mechanism, that can be cocked on the left side of bow. However, Safety on this bow can be moved to the left side of the bow. I am sure you have experienced this problem before with sporting equipment .
What happens when you can't shoot from a picnic bench? The Xbow still weighs 10.5 lbs. with needed accessories. What will a short stubby heavy bow do for the shooter?
Way more maneuverable in the woods. From a standing or kneeling position, it is EASY easier to acquire your target. I don't have the Garmin scope.... YET!!!
@@thediamondblue13 do yourself a favor and look at the Sig Sauer BDX system, before you buy the Garmin. The Garmin has a 3.5 X magnification limitation. The Sig Sierra Scope I have on my TP RS 470 bow has a 3.5 x10 x 42 MM scope that really reaches out for that 60 yards shot (100 yards if you are plinkng) that a 3.5MM can't give you. Yes, the Sig does not lock on the target like the Garmin. But with the Garmin you are locking on to the animal, not the shot behind the shoulder on a big buck.
Just as with a firearm, the only time you should pull the trigger on a crossbow is when you intend to fire it. We kept the trigger for the Garmin X1i crossbow scope separate from the crossbow trigger for that reason. The position of the range finder trigger in the stock allows you to range the target with as little movement as possible.
I was going to say the same exact thing. They make it sound like it has never been done or thought of before but Ravin has been doing it for years now. ROFLMAO
So I'm wearing a microphone on my jacket collar, which is literally resting on the bow when I shoot. The sound will always be amplified in that situation, especially with a crossbow, because I'm right on top of the bow, as opposed to a vertical bow, where the bow is an arm's length away from my body. What I can tell you is that, for a crossbow, it was comparatively quiet.
For me, bow hunting is all about the challenge. The greater the challenge, the greater the reward. This crossbow is nice, no doubt but it’s almost too nice. I’ll stick with my “cheap” compound.
This entire Xbox is sick!!! I can’t think of one negative about it except the cost. With that scope it’s almost cheating. The only thing you really need to concern yourself with is trigger discipline. Still, I’ll keep my Ravin R26 which cost me $2000 less brand new.
Beautiful crossbow, i have one problem with this, it takes zero skill to be average. The technology is so good, you don't have to pursue an art, i will get bored of it. With my recurve bow it took me a few months to hit a tennis ball at 50m....the upside it cost me $80, and I can shoot 10 arrows in the same time...
I understand how it almost makes it too easy but it reminds me of how when I had a single pin sight on my bow with a sight tape once I adjusted the range it was right on target where I needed it to be and I still had to make a good shot. The way I look at these lines of sights is it takes the sight tape out of the picture and you can focus more on making a smooth well executed shot. The skill of shooting a bow and crossbow is still there
Tenpoint is hitching their wagon to Garmin glory. The bow by itself is crap, along with the nocking system of the arrows. If you dry fire the bow (and you will because the DFI won't prevent it) at some point, you will destroy the rails and the locking pin. The bow will then have to be returned on your dime and the work on your dime. The DFI doesn't work. Save yourself alot of money, time, and frustration and go with Ravin until Tenpoint works this flaw out. The DFI needs to prevent a dry fire, not merely try to catch the string after the fact.
These crossbows are not to shoot for fun. Site them in and thats it. Shooting for fun will destroy your strings. I'm sure it's $200 plus to replace strings. That's how my ravin is so beware.
What???? First of all, it takes less time to draw this bow than it does to draw one with a standard draw string. 2nd: without the GARMIN scope, I'm knocking the X out of my target at 40yds. 3rd: with a better system, I'll be more lethal, more often. FEWER injured/ lost animals. Trust me... Great bow
Hi P.J….I have a couple of comments that are going to complimentary and rub you the wrong way. I’m 87 and go back far enough to say I’m a retired Massachusetts/ New England and State Field Archery Champion, probably was the first instinctive archer to had used three fingers under (1964) and find it very difficult not to come out of retirement to engage the annual ?? Champions in Lancaster Tournament. These archers suck .. To have shot with Howard Hill and Ann Weber Hoyt was and honor.. I have shot over 💯 🦌 deer with my bows… And now for you . At least once possibly twice you placed your 16” bolt on the rail holding the bolt at mid length. Shame on you sir..Your in that deadly triangle of a cocked system and could lose a finger. There is always a what if P.J. ..Was the system really set on safe ? You are very articulate and well presented but not someone who I would want to hunt with..
Nothing is challenging in the this day and age anymore. Doesn't need to be. You are shooting at a live animal, not a target. Less gut shots and bad shots=respect for the animal.
@@bradleyburton2664 nothing has changed people are just attempting further shots with crossbows with the same result without any skill. ARCHERY is classified as a skilled artform.....it doesnt take skill to shoot a crossbow when my 5 yr old can shoot bulleyes at 50 yds all day long
@@KTMsoldier1988 now your 5 year old can go out and hunt instead of having to wait until he's 12 or 13 with a compound. Crossbows made that possible. You're welcome.
@@bradleyburton2664 your right i dont have a problem with that and i dont allow my 5 yr old to hunt i make my kids wait until they are 10 because kids dont have a clue what they are doing they are just a trigger man. What i dont like is 20 30 yr olds who have all got into the crossbow craze because they dont want to put in the effort to get good with a verticle bow.
@@KTMsoldier1988 I've hunted with a gun since I was 6 years old with my dad. Hunted with a compound from 12-21. I learned what respecting an animal was and people today are all about "bragging rights" which is honestly the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. We're killing something and would rather take a chance on an animal getting injured and getting away because we can't put our pride aside. People today, even on camera are shooting deer to far forward and in the gut at 30 yards with a compound. True respect for an animal is putting it down as quickly as possible. If someone wants to "get good with a vertical bow" then shoot competition. Not everyone has hours to practice like the Bowmars do as most people are out working 10 hours a day. I had a buddy shoot a deer in the gut and it was a 130-140 class buck, got away and never found it and he finally gave in and bought the crossbow. First time he took it hunting, he killed an 8 point. Crossbows aren't bad, the people against them are too prideful or are narcissistic. There hasn't been a legit, good arguement made yet as to why crossbows are "bad" other than, "oh, be a real man and shoot a compound." 🙄😆 same real man will break down and cry when a 150 class deer jumps his string or he just simply misses lol
Ive been reading all the post about the Havoc xero, cant believe how narrow minded some are Ive had mine since feb and still on my 1st set of batteries, so it is NOT a battery eating hog as one said, ranging is quick i like the integrated ranging pad, right next to the trigger. The xero is not loud either, I got custom bolts at 515 grains, for a 16" long bolt. Dialing in was so fast and easy within 5 min, your ready to go out to 80 yards as advertised, but you can extend that distance, depending where you start your array of aiming points in the scope. Ihave since put hundreds of shots on this outfit, not the first glitch. Yeah I paid 3800 bucks for my havoc xero, but its what I wanted. Enough said!
Hi P.J….I have a couple of comments that are going to be complimentary and rub you the wrong way. I’m 87 and go back far enough to say I’m a retired Massachusetts/ New England and State Field Archery Champion, probably was the first instinctive archer to had used three fingers under (1964) and find it very difficult not to come out of retirement to engage the annual ?? Champions in Lancaster Tournament. These archers suck .. To have shot with Howard Hill and Ann Weber Hoyt was and honor.. I have shot over 💯 🦌 deer with my bows… And now for you . At least once possibly twice you placed your 16” bolt on the rail holding the bolt at mid length. Shame on you sir..Your in that deadly triangle of a cocked system and could lose a finger. There is always a what if P.J. ..Was the system really set on safe ? You are very articulate and well presented but not someone who I would want to hunt with..
He did not load this bow according to the manufacturer. After the string comes back and you hear the click you backwind 1 turn. You then press the button on the stock to release the bolt carrier from the string and back wind again with just your fingers till it stops. This makes the bow more accurate.
It must be crossbow season. Back to back Ten point videos!
I own the Havoc Xero. Great new technology, waiting for spring Indiana turkey season, I also have the Nitro XRT. I'm set with upcoming hunting seasons with a back up bow now.
Good reviews and information very helpful, thanks.
brilliant review saving like hell to get this beast
Hope that you are able to grab the Havoc Xero, there is nothing like it out there for us sportsmen/women. If you are able to get this setup, and need some help setting it up, feel free to ask, I would be glad to help.
Adding this to my TenPoint collection. Made in the USA
If I was going to get a bow with the crank system this would be it, that Garmin scope looks awesome 👏
That thing is nuts!
That sight for 1400 is nuts. Happy new year Allie
Hi Allie… I’m one of your fans.. Do you have any comment after you read mine on the location of P.J.’s fingers mid shaft while the bow is cocked ..This is a death to your fingers triangle.. Hey I miss your videos
When he did the range finding I was half expecting a heat seeking missile to be shot.
Wait until you fire it...
It looks like a Hell Fire missile.
I own one, there is press button before trigger
Great video. I just bought the Havoc. It's awesome. I noticed you have a bigger sturip. Will it fit in the Halo case with the bigger sturip. Thxs
Are these cross bows ambidextrous? Can they be cocked from the left side ? I’m left handed
Can't be cocked or let down from the left side. I am not aware of any brand of Xbow with an internal cranking mechanism, that can be cocked on the left side of bow. However, Safety on this bow can be moved to the left side of the bow. I am sure you have experienced this problem before with sporting equipment .
You should watch tenpoints videos on how to cock this bow properly. You did not backwind after cocking per tenpoints instructions
I will never give up my Excalibur’s crossbow’s. They are large and in charge!
I'm getting one of these as soon as I can convince my bank to let me take a second mortgage out on my house for it.
How about 30 inches long sir upgraded
Do you have to remove the cocking handle in order to able to shoot or can you shoot without remove the cocking handle?
You can shoot with it in its storage place. I wouldn't shoot with it attached to the cocking mechanism.
@PJ Reilly The Axe405 crossbow can shoot without remove the cocking handle, why can't they make it the same
How about the broadhead, what grain is best for that bow there
What happens when you can't shoot from a picnic bench? The Xbow still weighs 10.5 lbs. with needed accessories. What will a short stubby heavy bow do for the shooter?
Way more maneuverable in the woods. From a standing or kneeling position, it is EASY easier to acquire your target.
I don't have the Garmin scope.... YET!!!
@@thediamondblue13 do yourself a favor and look at the Sig Sauer BDX system, before you buy the Garmin. The Garmin has a 3.5 X magnification limitation. The Sig Sierra Scope I have on my TP RS 470 bow has a 3.5 x10 x 42 MM scope that really reaches out for that 60 yards shot (100 yards if you are plinkng) that a 3.5MM can't give you. Yes, the Sig does not lock on the target like the Garmin. But with the Garmin you are locking on to the animal, not the shot behind the shoulder on a big buck.
Is the RS410 quieter?
Awesome setup, was wondering about that sight in rainy conditions I seen its like snow.
Very nice crossbow unfortunately way out of my price range @ $3,600.00! Very nice safe and compact bow though!
"KEEP ON KEEPIN ON"!
The trigger Position of the garmin sight is not good. Why not integrated in the trigger of the crossbow?
Just as with a firearm, the only time you should pull the trigger on a crossbow is when you intend to fire it. We kept the trigger for the Garmin X1i crossbow scope separate from the crossbow trigger for that reason. The position of the range finder trigger in the stock allows you to range the target with as little movement as possible.
@@TenPointCrossbows thanks for your fast Response! Was only my first look opinion! I am not a crossbower. Like compound more.
Most of the time I have 3-5 seconds to shoot. I love new technology but can you take a shot in a few seconds
Can we just buy the scope for a different cross bow and where
Yes....google garmin xero
Wyvern Creations (David)
Can you send me And how much is the price
Very intelligent equipment !
Which do you recommend or prefer? The Vapor or Havoc?
Vapor is the 2020 model. The Havoc has newer features based on the problems found in the Vapor.
Ravin just called, they want their acudraw back.
Uh just like my Ravin that I have had 3 years. Amazing how many ideas have come from Ravin engineers
I was going to say the same exact thing. They make it sound like it has never been done or thought of before but Ravin has been doing it for years now. ROFLMAO
Fantastic crossbow
300yard locking strong powerful
You must have had some bad audio there PJ because the crossbows sounds really loud to me
So I'm wearing a microphone on my jacket collar, which is literally resting on the bow when I shoot. The sound will always be amplified in that situation, especially with a crossbow, because I'm right on top of the bow, as opposed to a vertical bow, where the bow is an arm's length away from my body. What I can tell you is that, for a crossbow, it was comparatively quiet.
For me, bow hunting is all about the challenge. The greater the challenge, the greater the reward. This crossbow is nice, no doubt but it’s almost too nice. I’ll stick with my “cheap” compound.
Im kinda new to archery an i wana buy quality gear but .... 4000 for a xbow ... i just cant😢😢
Xbow is 2k and scope is 2k that why 4k
500 locking powerful
Not bad but I'll stick with my tenpoint rampage 360..
Wouldn’t put my fingers in t,he string path of that beast. Top tip fingertip saver don’t!
This entire Xbox is sick!!! I can’t think of one negative about it except the cost. With that scope it’s almost cheating. The only thing you really need to concern yourself with is trigger discipline. Still, I’ll keep my Ravin R26 which cost me $2000 less brand new.
Beautiful crossbow, i have one problem with this, it takes zero skill to be average. The technology is so good, you don't have to pursue an art, i will get bored of it. With my recurve bow it took me a few months to hit a tennis ball at 50m....the upside it cost me $80, and I can shoot 10 arrows in the same time...
I understand how it almost makes it too easy but it reminds me of how when I had a single pin sight on my bow with a sight tape once I adjusted the range it was right on target where I needed it to be and I still had to make a good shot. The way I look at these lines of sights is it takes the sight tape out of the picture and you can focus more on making a smooth well executed shot. The skill of shooting a bow and crossbow is still there
Very good 🏆🇫🇮
Lancehead F1 🎯 top
Own one but u gotta carry extra batteries
The crossbow is nice, screw the scope.
with so many crossbows manufacturers realising they need to make an ambidextrous product and doing so. Tenpoint is a big disappointment.
I love $2,500 more. LOL!
try 4g with that scope
Tenpoint is hitching their wagon to Garmin glory. The bow by itself is crap, along with the nocking system of the arrows. If you dry fire the bow (and you will because the DFI won't prevent it) at some point, you will destroy the rails and the locking pin. The bow will then have to be returned on your dime and the work on your dime. The DFI doesn't work. Save yourself alot of money, time, and frustration and go with Ravin until Tenpoint works this flaw out. The DFI needs to prevent a dry fire, not merely try to catch the string after the fact.
Way to much for a crossbow
This can you say also to a Ferrari or Lamborghini. It's not for everyone.
These crossbows are not to shoot for fun.
Site them in and thats it.
Shooting for fun will destroy your strings.
I'm sure it's $200 plus to replace strings.
That's how my ravin is so beware.
no fucking way i am paying $4000 for a crossbow...lol
2 hours to shoot a single shot, great
What????
First of all, it takes less time to draw this bow than it does to draw one with a standard draw string.
2nd: without the GARMIN scope, I'm knocking the X out of my target at 40yds.
3rd: with a better system, I'll be more lethal, more often. FEWER injured/ lost animals.
Trust me...
Great bow
Hi P.J….I have a couple of comments that are going to complimentary and rub you the wrong way.
I’m 87 and go back far enough to say I’m a retired Massachusetts/ New England and State Field Archery Champion, probably was the first instinctive archer to had used three fingers under (1964) and find it very difficult not to come out of retirement to engage the annual ?? Champions in Lancaster Tournament. These archers suck .. To have shot with Howard Hill and Ann Weber Hoyt was and honor.. I have shot over 💯 🦌 deer with my bows…
And now for you . At least once possibly twice you placed your 16” bolt on the rail holding the bolt at mid length. Shame on you sir..Your in that deadly triangle of a cocked system and could lose a finger. There is always a what if P.J. ..Was the system really set on safe ? You are very articulate and well presented but not someone who I would want to hunt with..
Only 4K lol
Found one for$ 2,000
So.... i thought archery was supposed to be challenging!
Nothing is challenging in the this day and age anymore. Doesn't need to be. You are shooting at a live animal, not a target. Less gut shots and bad shots=respect for the animal.
@@bradleyburton2664 nothing has changed people are just attempting further shots with crossbows with the same result without any skill. ARCHERY is classified as a skilled artform.....it doesnt take skill to shoot a crossbow when my 5 yr old can shoot bulleyes at 50 yds all day long
@@KTMsoldier1988 now your 5 year old can go out and hunt instead of having to wait until he's 12 or 13 with a compound. Crossbows made that possible. You're welcome.
@@bradleyburton2664 your right i dont have a problem with that and i dont allow my 5 yr old to hunt i make my kids wait until they are 10 because kids dont have a clue what they are doing they are just a trigger man. What i dont like is 20 30 yr olds who have all got into the crossbow craze because they dont want to put in the effort to get good with a verticle bow.
@@KTMsoldier1988 I've hunted with a gun since I was 6 years old with my dad. Hunted with a compound from 12-21. I learned what respecting an animal was and people today are all about "bragging rights" which is honestly the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. We're killing something and would rather take a chance on an animal getting injured and getting away because we can't put our pride aside. People today, even on camera are shooting deer to far forward and in the gut at 30 yards with a compound. True respect for an animal is putting it down as quickly as possible. If someone wants to "get good with a vertical bow" then shoot competition. Not everyone has hours to practice like the Bowmars do as most people are out working 10 hours a day. I had a buddy shoot a deer in the gut and it was a 130-140 class buck, got away and never found it and he finally gave in and bought the crossbow. First time he took it hunting, he killed an 8 point. Crossbows aren't bad, the people against them are too prideful or are narcissistic. There hasn't been a legit, good arguement made yet as to why crossbows are "bad" other than, "oh, be a real man and shoot a compound." 🙄😆 same real man will break down and cry when a 150 class deer jumps his string or he just simply misses lol
yeah, in america u can buy such a toy. in germany u have to go to the jail, if u buy this...
God Bless America!!!!
Ive been reading all the post about the Havoc xero, cant believe how narrow minded some are Ive had mine since feb and still on my 1st set of batteries, so it is NOT a battery eating hog as one said, ranging is quick i like the integrated ranging pad, right next to the trigger. The xero is not loud either, I got custom bolts at 515 grains, for a 16" long bolt. Dialing in was so fast and easy within 5 min, your ready to go out to 80 yards as advertised, but you can extend that distance, depending where you start your array of aiming points in the scope. Ihave since put hundreds of shots on this outfit, not the first glitch. Yeah I paid 3800 bucks for my havoc xero, but its what I wanted. Enough said!
Hi P.J….I have a couple of comments that are going to be complimentary and rub you the wrong way.
I’m 87 and go back far enough to say I’m a retired Massachusetts/ New England and State Field Archery Champion, probably was the first instinctive archer to had used three fingers under (1964) and find it very difficult not to come out of retirement to engage the annual ?? Champions in Lancaster Tournament. These archers suck .. To have shot with Howard Hill and Ann Weber Hoyt was and honor.. I have shot over 💯 🦌 deer with my bows…
And now for you . At least once possibly twice you placed your 16” bolt on the rail holding the bolt at mid length. Shame on you sir..Your in that deadly triangle of a cocked system and could lose a finger. There is always a what if P.J. ..Was the system really set on safe ? You are very articulate and well presented but not someone who I would want to hunt with..