Phew, finally, it's done: it's recommended to watch this vid in x1.5-x2.0 since I speak slowly, but the text will remain on screen for way less time Again, PLEASE do not harass Suwawako. As much of a nutcase I am, I do not want all out war to happen and I'm just correcting Suwa on basic mistakes. I know my sources are pulled from wiki, but it is a nice source to learn about Len'en (totally not biased as a partial wiki contributor + JynX has approved of it), and upon them you'll find even more sources from JynX's twitter
@@chaoticmemories the wife comment is almost certainly not literal given that they were all high schoolers at the time. we dont know how literal the woman comment is either, but it does lend credence to irl daijin being a woman yeah
I keep thinking when Tsurubami appears in Suwawako videos is probably a computer virus that got inside while he was editing the video and didn't notice . In other side , very good video for people who got interested in Len'en because of Suwa's video and wanted to know more (even if it's only a small part of the entire len'en lore) , but importantly thank you for bringing continuisly content for this series
0:20 - "crispy 240p quality" >shows 360p quality that ones just funny. also, we technically dont Know if daijin is actually a woman or if the wife + woman comment was an inside joke by big boss so i wouldnt state it as an absolute fact, but it is very plausible yeah 6:45 - rmi also isnt about "winter lasting longer than it should be", in fact rmi takes place at the very beginning of winter, its just abnormally cold and yknow ghost-infested. there are legitimate comparisons to be made between ems and rmi and their vague similarities with eosd and pcb but this ones just lazy and not true 14:47 - actually jynx made follow up tweets that two of them they could absolutely not reveal, and considering they did reveal jinbeis design (and itd be weird to hide it since wed already seen them from behind in endings) and willingly revealed the secret behind tsubakuras name, those two options were probably the remaining yabusames origins and clauses true name. who knows if they wouldve gone through with it after all though 15:16 - a nitpick but he also didnt mention that the birthdays given arent necessarily accurate, but we treat them as if they are anyway so whatever 16:32 - ha ha touhou fan doesnt know how to pronounce cirno xd. really though that does make him feel a lot less credible given touhou is supposed to be his area of expertise 18:16 - AMAZED that he pronounces clauses name right though thats one even most lenen fans get wrong (its "clow-zuh" (or at least "clowz"), not "claws"). also "clause has a defeated portrait, which is rare among the lenen cast" its rare among stage 6 bosses for obvious reasons (just like in touhou) but not the cast overall what 22:33 - saragimaru was not born from YAorochis eye, they were born from orochis eye. also jsyk we dont know that yaorochi is born form the right arm specifically, we dont even know if they're born from one arm or both arms - same with saragimaru - since japanese doesnt separate between singular and plural 26:33 - nitpick but thats not exactly its "logo" its just its name written in kanji lol. he couldve mentioned the way the different renditions of the name corresponds to different facets or eras of lenen (complex = pre-suzumi era, simplified = suzumi era, katakana = pre-canon (monochrome world)) but eh i do think its a little unfair to criticize him for not bringing up certain facts and i feel like the focus on him not bringing up tsurubami enough is a bit biased and silly, by the same logic he should be bringing up suzumi way more. i get the feeling he didnt want to put spoilers in the videos, which might explain why he isnt focusing on actual important facts or plot beats (like tsurubami or how yabu+tsuba became priests which would spoil ee). its been a while since I watched the videos though so i cant remember if he does throw in spoilery facts after all. also, if I can make a suggestion could you please increase the volume of the video youre reacting to next time? it was really hard to hear suwa sometimes without increasing my volume a ton which would then make you way too loud when you started talking :S overall though good job debunking and nice video
0:20 - Aleph forgot how to count 6:45 - Huh, guess I had a massive Mandela event considering I believed THAT was the case for the longest time 14:47 - Yeah I already mentioned other two options in my screen text. Also huh 🤔, still feels a bit scammy tho 15:16 - Yeah I keep forgetting about that fact even myself 22:33 - Fuck I misheard. And the right one bit was probably a mandela effect once again. While I did know that we can't say for sure which Eye was Salami born through, I genuinely thought we had some confirmation on which arm it was (didn't help I was working on Russian wiki at the time, but now I have... Some bad blood with the staff of it) 26:33 - I showcased this in my VOD, but given that the highlight was already too fucking long, and I know some newbs be like "quit yapping 🤪", I had to redact it Also, I would disagree that my discontentment of him not bringing Tsurubami enough is "silly". If he really DID care of how spoilery his videos are, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN MENTIONED SUZUMI WHO ISN'T EVEN ICONIC TO EE. Tsurubami isn't a secret character, they're just a "reveal" antagonist that is mentioned throughout the games as a mention to signify how important they are. You would be spoiled either way. Suzumi IS a secret character though regardless of "updates" + they're obscured on the character screen when you don't have them (and if they're mentioned, they're not mentioned by name before their encounter as a final boss). That's what makes my blood boil honestly. And he treats both characters as they were random ass NPCs, especially Tsurubami who I think still needs to be highlighted more while Suzumi being here for tease to get new fans curious. And well, he brings up facts with so little elaboration, if any, something that those TTS channels somehow succeed in and some facts are genuinely teetering on "common knowledge", there genuinely could be more interesting facts to hook peeps in imo Also yes I know Suwa's vids were silent on my part, I still don't know how to use OBS
Also, before that, he blatantly stated that he doesn't care for story/dialogues of games (like I believe it was at his review of some obscure Touhou fangame) and HBM reaction was pretty much the proof that he still doesn't care What story is there to spoil if he doesn't KNOW the story?????? (Also luv your animations xoxo)
@@aleph_d yeah the suzumi thing is a good point i agree. though ngl since he doesn't elaborate on their part in the story and seems to believe they originated in ee i wonder if he genuinely just didnt realize all players arent unlocked from the start and you can only unlock suzumi after beating extra with tsubakura or what a gigantic spoiler suzumi actually is lol. the point where i thought it got silly was just when youd bring up tsurubami anytime he was talking about anything that wasnt tsurubami really, i think its absolutely more than fair to criticize him about it where its relevant. also yeah even if he did want to avoid spoilers he didnt even pick actual fun facts, one of the facts was literally just clauses name??? the ambiguous gender thing is literally what got me hooked on the series and its the bare minimum fun fact you could tell to the point of being required understanding upon going in, theres also lots of fun unimportant facts in the prologues, profiles, interviews, etc to pull from that even actual lenen fans might have missed and found interesting. absolute tts content farm levels youre so right
@@mothlarvas5066 That's why I want to believe that he'll at least do a semi-decent coverage now that he responded to me. Again, despite his shallowness of his content, I do genuinely believe he can do way better as if he was interested in printing out content, he wouldn't make videos on such obscure series like Touhou and Madoka; and while I can't really say too much on Madoka, as I didn't watch it fully due to circumstances and overall preferring to read manga at my own pace (ADHD moment), so I can't even prove his legitimacy on anything, it is a very heavy on lore, so it should've been a wake up call for him. Again, blud only needs to commit to it and his vids would be pretty good (barring the humor, but it is very subjective, I'm not a funny man). Though maybe it's just me being very innocent and idealistic since literally everyone in my chat got the impression that he is doing the content for clout&money + HBM story got completely mangled hard even though we have Megapig9001 literally retelling the story in a very concise way (I know it might be due to HBM being unpatched, but still he could've just visted the wiki, TLs are here)
Me spreading misinformation 🥴🥴👈👈 Jokes aside,good job in doing the effort of correcting the mistakes so people don't get lost or confused,huge respect for that Also saying that Clause is the Jesus Christ of Len'en? Based
:D! Thank you so much for such kind words 👉👈 Also, while I only said this in recent stream, and those streams are... Long. I just want to say that you're my biggest inspiration period. I seriously don't know where I would've been without your content
@@aleph_d omfg I'm flattered I'm bdvfjdbfjdhfhfhfjdhdhfbdhdheidjfhhf legit had to get up and stare at the wall for a while JDVDJFBFKFBDJDVBFHDVDHVDVD I'm realized I'm very glad that I could inspire you to reach far,but don't forget that is also thanks to your efforts,so be proud of yourself! Your content motivated me to draw the thumbnails actually aaaaaaa
Missed the opportunity to say "Naive Fall" when calling him naive... sad... That aside, good video, I don't know enough about Len'en to properly keep up with the pace and the volume imbalance makes it a bit harder to watch, but it was informative. Though, given that you seem to know a lot about Len'en, would you happen to know how to force the games to display on a specific screen? I have two monitors, and EE only appears on the second one, so it's hard to play it in fullscreen
Oh, a person who is actually kinda new to Len'en and not a die-hard veteran like me who can recite the lore of Len'en by heart Yeahhhhh, it was my first reaction-type video, so I knew jack shit how to balance volume in OBS; sorry about that. I did do a stream on reacting to Megapig's AND SleeplessNights' reviews of the projects that I plan to make highlights of and at least here you could hear them more or less properly in VODs (at least SleeplessNights' videos, as they have higher base volume) Unfortunately I don't know about that specifically; in fact Len'en games are quite archaic by modern standards as they were released literally a decade ago where for some dumb reasons - you can't change the keybinds on the keyboard (and can't use D-Pad on Gamepad, only Joystick... Weird), so I doubt that anything can be done about it. Sorry to disappoint you :(, I'm more of a Lore-person and I never experienced multi-monitor gaming Anyway, thanks! I was worried that my video... Might be too advanced for the general public, I talk about more in-the-know stuff and I didn't elaborate too much at the risk of spoiling things; but I'm glad you found it informative regardless -also, FUCK. really should've made that pun urghhhh-
@@aleph_d I see, that's cool, it would be cool to see highlights of those. It's fine, it's still appreciated to see someone attempt helping with that. I've managed to solve it by just disabling the other monitor, which isn't a very elegant solution, but it works. -pff, nah I mean maybe there'll be an opportunity at some other point in time don't worry about it-
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Phew, finally, it's done: it's recommended to watch this vid in x1.5-x2.0 since I speak slowly, but the text will remain on screen for way less time
Again, PLEASE do not harass Suwawako. As much of a nutcase I am, I do not want all out war to happen and I'm just correcting Suwa on basic mistakes.
I know my sources are pulled from wiki, but it is a nice source to learn about Len'en (totally not biased as a partial wiki contributor + JynX has approved of it), and upon them you'll find even more sources from JynX's twitter
1:23 you have no idea how shocked I got when you said that irl Daijin is a woman KWOWODJSNNWNXNSKQOW
Worst part is that the transcript was here and it was easy to notice (and something that I can confirm); it was A VERY RECENT discovery 😔
@@aleph_d nah I though the wife on the OG video tittle was an inside joke-
@@chaoticmemories
Everyone thought that... Didn't expect that it would be LITERAL
@@aleph_d fr I though it was malewife stuff not AN ACTUAL WIFE-
@@chaoticmemories the wife comment is almost certainly not literal given that they were all high schoolers at the time. we dont know how literal the woman comment is either, but it does lend credence to irl daijin being a woman yeah
I keep thinking when Tsurubami appears in Suwawako videos is probably a computer virus that got inside while he was editing the video and didn't notice .
In other side , very good video for people who got interested in Len'en because of Suwa's video and wanted to know more (even if it's only a small part of the entire len'en lore) , but importantly thank you for bringing continuisly content for this series
Aww, thank you
50 MIN LEN'EN CONTENT BOYS
0:20 - "crispy 240p quality" >shows 360p quality that ones just funny. also, we technically dont Know if daijin is actually a woman or if the wife + woman comment was an inside joke by big boss so i wouldnt state it as an absolute fact, but it is very plausible yeah
6:45 - rmi also isnt about "winter lasting longer than it should be", in fact rmi takes place at the very beginning of winter, its just abnormally cold and yknow ghost-infested. there are legitimate comparisons to be made between ems and rmi and their vague similarities with eosd and pcb but this ones just lazy and not true
14:47 - actually jynx made follow up tweets that two of them they could absolutely not reveal, and considering they did reveal jinbeis design (and itd be weird to hide it since wed already seen them from behind in endings) and willingly revealed the secret behind tsubakuras name, those two options were probably the remaining yabusames origins and clauses true name. who knows if they wouldve gone through with it after all though
15:16 - a nitpick but he also didnt mention that the birthdays given arent necessarily accurate, but we treat them as if they are anyway so whatever
16:32 - ha ha touhou fan doesnt know how to pronounce cirno xd. really though that does make him feel a lot less credible given touhou is supposed to be his area of expertise
18:16 - AMAZED that he pronounces clauses name right though thats one even most lenen fans get wrong (its "clow-zuh" (or at least "clowz"), not "claws"). also "clause has a defeated portrait, which is rare among the lenen cast" its rare among stage 6 bosses for obvious reasons (just like in touhou) but not the cast overall what
22:33 - saragimaru was not born from YAorochis eye, they were born from orochis eye. also jsyk we dont know that yaorochi is born form the right arm specifically, we dont even know if they're born from one arm or both arms - same with saragimaru - since japanese doesnt separate between singular and plural
26:33 - nitpick but thats not exactly its "logo" its just its name written in kanji lol. he couldve mentioned the way the different renditions of the name corresponds to different facets or eras of lenen (complex = pre-suzumi era, simplified = suzumi era, katakana = pre-canon (monochrome world)) but eh
i do think its a little unfair to criticize him for not bringing up certain facts and i feel like the focus on him not bringing up tsurubami enough is a bit biased and silly, by the same logic he should be bringing up suzumi way more. i get the feeling he didnt want to put spoilers in the videos, which might explain why he isnt focusing on actual important facts or plot beats (like tsurubami or how yabu+tsuba became priests which would spoil ee). its been a while since I watched the videos though so i cant remember if he does throw in spoilery facts after all.
also, if I can make a suggestion could you please increase the volume of the video youre reacting to next time? it was really hard to hear suwa sometimes without increasing my volume a ton which would then make you way too loud when you started talking :S
overall though good job debunking and nice video
0:20 - Aleph forgot how to count
6:45 - Huh, guess I had a massive Mandela event considering I believed THAT was the case for the longest time
14:47 - Yeah I already mentioned other two options in my screen text. Also huh 🤔, still feels a bit scammy tho
15:16 - Yeah I keep forgetting about that fact even myself
22:33 - Fuck I misheard. And the right one bit was probably a mandela effect once again. While I did know that we can't say for sure which Eye was Salami born through, I genuinely thought we had some confirmation on which arm it was (didn't help I was working on Russian wiki at the time, but now I have... Some bad blood with the staff of it)
26:33 - I showcased this in my VOD, but given that the highlight was already too fucking long, and I know some newbs be like "quit yapping 🤪", I had to redact it
Also, I would disagree that my discontentment of him not bringing Tsurubami enough is "silly". If he really DID care of how spoilery his videos are, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN MENTIONED SUZUMI WHO ISN'T EVEN ICONIC TO EE. Tsurubami isn't a secret character, they're just a "reveal" antagonist that is mentioned throughout the games as a mention to signify how important they are. You would be spoiled either way. Suzumi IS a secret character though regardless of "updates" + they're obscured on the character screen when you don't have them (and if they're mentioned, they're not mentioned by name before their encounter as a final boss). That's what makes my blood boil honestly. And he treats both characters as they were random ass NPCs, especially Tsurubami who I think still needs to be highlighted more while Suzumi being here for tease to get new fans curious. And well, he brings up facts with so little elaboration, if any, something that those TTS channels somehow succeed in and some facts are genuinely teetering on "common knowledge", there genuinely could be more interesting facts to hook peeps in imo
Also yes I know Suwa's vids were silent on my part, I still don't know how to use OBS
Also, before that, he blatantly stated that he doesn't care for story/dialogues of games (like I believe it was at his review of some obscure Touhou fangame) and HBM reaction was pretty much the proof that he still doesn't care
What story is there to spoil if he doesn't KNOW the story??????
(Also luv your animations xoxo)
@@aleph_d yeah the suzumi thing is a good point i agree. though ngl since he doesn't elaborate on their part in the story and seems to believe they originated in ee i wonder if he genuinely just didnt realize all players arent unlocked from the start and you can only unlock suzumi after beating extra with tsubakura or what a gigantic spoiler suzumi actually is lol. the point where i thought it got silly was just when youd bring up tsurubami anytime he was talking about anything that wasnt tsurubami really, i think its absolutely more than fair to criticize him about it where its relevant.
also yeah even if he did want to avoid spoilers he didnt even pick actual fun facts, one of the facts was literally just clauses name??? the ambiguous gender thing is literally what got me hooked on the series and its the bare minimum fun fact you could tell to the point of being required understanding upon going in, theres also lots of fun unimportant facts in the prologues, profiles, interviews, etc to pull from that even actual lenen fans might have missed and found interesting. absolute tts content farm levels youre so right
@@aleph_d ngl that explains a lot omg the story/dialogue is The Good Part of lenen bro what are you doingggg
also aaaa ty!! :D i like ur videos too :)
@@mothlarvas5066
That's why I want to believe that he'll at least do a semi-decent coverage now that he responded to me. Again, despite his shallowness of his content, I do genuinely believe he can do way better as if he was interested in printing out content, he wouldn't make videos on such obscure series like Touhou and Madoka; and while I can't really say too much on Madoka, as I didn't watch it fully due to circumstances and overall preferring to read manga at my own pace (ADHD moment), so I can't even prove his legitimacy on anything, it is a very heavy on lore, so it should've been a wake up call for him. Again, blud only needs to commit to it and his vids would be pretty good (barring the humor, but it is very subjective, I'm not a funny man). Though maybe it's just me being very innocent and idealistic since literally everyone in my chat got the impression that he is doing the content for clout&money + HBM story got completely mangled hard even though we have Megapig9001 literally retelling the story in a very concise way (I know it might be due to HBM being unpatched, but still he could've just visted the wiki, TLs are here)
Me spreading misinformation 🥴🥴👈👈
Jokes aside,good job in doing the effort of correcting the mistakes so people don't get lost or confused,huge respect for that
Also saying that Clause is the Jesus Christ of Len'en? Based
:D!
Thank you so much for such kind words 👉👈
Also, while I only said this in recent stream, and those streams are... Long. I just want to say that you're my biggest inspiration period. I seriously don't know where I would've been without your content
@@aleph_d omfg I'm flattered I'm bdvfjdbfjdhfhfhfjdhdhfbdhdheidjfhhf legit had to get up and stare at the wall for a while JDVDJFBFKFBDJDVBFHDVDHVDVD I'm realized
I'm very glad that I could inspire you to reach far,but don't forget that is also thanks to your efforts,so be proud of yourself! Your content motivated me to draw the thumbnails actually aaaaaaa
MADNESS TAKES HOLD
28:38 Do you mean "nau roudexingu"?
I don't think that is french, or am I missing something?
OMG I GOT NOSTALGIA WHEN I HEARD THE INTRO MUSIC
Ayy, someone is in the know 🤙
Missed the opportunity to say "Naive Fall" when calling him naive... sad...
That aside, good video, I don't know enough about Len'en to properly keep up with the pace and the volume imbalance makes it a bit harder to watch, but it was informative.
Though, given that you seem to know a lot about Len'en, would you happen to know how to force the games to display on a specific screen? I have two monitors, and EE only appears on the second one, so it's hard to play it in fullscreen
Oh, a person who is actually kinda new to Len'en and not a die-hard veteran like me who can recite the lore of Len'en by heart
Yeahhhhh, it was my first reaction-type video, so I knew jack shit how to balance volume in OBS; sorry about that. I did do a stream on reacting to Megapig's AND SleeplessNights' reviews of the projects that I plan to make highlights of and at least here you could hear them more or less properly in VODs (at least SleeplessNights' videos, as they have higher base volume)
Unfortunately I don't know about that specifically; in fact Len'en games are quite archaic by modern standards as they were released literally a decade ago where for some dumb reasons - you can't change the keybinds on the keyboard (and can't use D-Pad on Gamepad, only Joystick... Weird), so I doubt that anything can be done about it. Sorry to disappoint you :(, I'm more of a Lore-person and I never experienced multi-monitor gaming
Anyway, thanks! I was worried that my video... Might be too advanced for the general public, I talk about more in-the-know stuff and I didn't elaborate too much at the risk of spoiling things; but I'm glad you found it informative regardless
-also, FUCK. really should've made that pun urghhhh-
@@aleph_d
I see, that's cool, it would be cool to see highlights of those.
It's fine, it's still appreciated to see someone attempt helping with that. I've managed to solve it by just disabling the other monitor, which isn't a very elegant solution, but it works.
-pff, nah I mean maybe there'll be an opportunity at some other point in time don't worry about it-
i dont like suwawako