The Seveso Dioxin Disaster - "Italy's Hiroshima"

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  • Опубликовано: 23 мар 2022
  • On July 10th 1976 Italy's worst industrial accident occurred in the small picturesque town of Seveso. A batch of chemicals left unattended over the weekend at the ICMESA chemical plant overheated, causing a chain reaction which led to a cloud of toxic material being released over the local area. At the time this incident was nicknamed "Italy's Hiroshima"....
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  • @theravenseye9443
    @theravenseye9443  2 года назад +181

    I agree with those commenting that Chernobyl would have been a more fitting comparison for them to have made, but of course, this was 10 years before Chernobyl.

    • @markcasey2517
      @markcasey2517 2 года назад +4

      I read this, after I posted my silly Chernobyl comment. I suppose it’s esoteric. Still loving all your content!

    • @ThePiquedPigeon
      @ThePiquedPigeon Год назад +1

      Maybe "Italy's Pripyat" was even more fitting.

    • @petrofilmeurope
      @petrofilmeurope Год назад +3

      When talking about industrial disasters one has to be very specific and very precise. It is not like comparing one sort of cheese with another type. Industrial disasters should also be viewed from the inside of the corporation and out. Not as it usually is viewed, as a collective attack from the outside. People operate electrical equipment wrongly every day. Medical equipment is operated in the wrong way. People are responsible for many operating faults. On a low level and a high level. Media is not stronger than the experienced knowledge of the people running the business. Chernobyl and Seveso are two different cases, each with its own story - not a story made in Hollywood - but in real life. One cannot compare oranges with bananas. Neither can one compare Gamma radiation with Dioxin.

    • @bernardkealey6449
      @bernardkealey6449 Год назад +5

      Bhopal would be closer in all respects, but that was also 6 years in the future.
      Did you not consider an equal mention to the 3 million Vietnamese who suffered health impacts in comparison to the 35,000 US servicemen who filed disability claims?

    • @mariosiaven2965
      @mariosiaven2965 Год назад +1

      This reckons similarities with the Bhopal India accident in the 80s

  • @contingenceBoston
    @contingenceBoston 2 года назад +346

    Well done. Love the use of actual photography instead of useless stock footage

    • @theravenseye9443
      @theravenseye9443  2 года назад +70

      Thanks - I try my best.

    • @charliekezza
      @charliekezza 2 года назад +47

      Ikr always drives me insane. Would prefer looking at one true photo for the whole vid than a heap of stock footage that has nothing to do with the vid

    • @c_lakindick
      @c_lakindick 2 года назад +7

      Makes me tune out straight away!

    • @valeriebumblebee7607
      @valeriebumblebee7607 2 года назад +14

      So I'm not the only one absolutely hating stock images - and even worse - videos?

    • @bsidegirl9069
      @bsidegirl9069 2 года назад +6

      @@valeriebumblebee7607 nope. apparently there's many of us! abolish stock footage!

  • @BradGryphonn
    @BradGryphonn 2 года назад +128

    Trivia: I once worked for a demolition business and dealt with a lot of weird stuff. My boss was a bit of a rogue and would do some dubious deals. In the late 80s. early 90s, he did a deal with the local electricity board in the city we were in. They gave him a large shed full of aluminium poles and other obsolete or end-of-life electrical stuff. There were tens of thousands of dollars worth of scrap aluminium, copper, lead, and other items. However, as part of the deal, he had to also remove the (at least) 100 drums of PCB oil from the shed and dispose of it ... "but we don't want to know where you take it...". For the uninitiated. The oil in question was used extensively as a cooling oil in transformers and other high voltage electrical stuff. However, it is highly carcinogenic and was replaced with something less dangerous.
    Fast-forward five years, long after I stopped working for him. The city suffers a major flood. Like a HUGE flood. Some weeks later as the flood levels slowly subside, a whole lot of 44-gallon drums are found in paddocks, on the riverbank, amongst the mangroves, and in the bay 40kms downstream. Some had ruptured, while others were floating around. He had stored the drums on his property that was part of the flood plain for the river. He went to jail for that.

    • @kimberlycrouch7228
      @kimberlycrouch7228 2 года назад +11

      Omg that is horrendous.

    • @CarlosSpicyWang
      @CarlosSpicyWang Год назад +8

      Greed makes people do dangerous and stupid things

    • @cremebrulee4759
      @cremebrulee4759 Год назад +1

      Terrible!

    • @chrisworthen1538
      @chrisworthen1538 6 месяцев назад +5

      Back during the sixties power companies would donate the oil to local municipalities that would spray it on dirt roads to keep the dust down.

    • @Lozzomatic
      @Lozzomatic 2 месяца назад

      @@chrisworthen1538 There was a town called Times Beach who did this. Some chemical company who was owned by the company that created Agent Orange paid a guy called Bliss to dispose of their waste material. One of the substances was dioxin which he used to mix with tanks of motor oil. He owned a farm and sprayed that area down to keep down the nuisance dust. Those who visited and noticed how well it did hired him to do the same for their ranches. Eventually in 71 he was hired to spray down Shenandoah Stable indoor arena and shortly after people noticed a strong burning odor, birds began dropping dead from the rafters and horses grew sores and lost their hair. He still claimed it was just motor oil and refused any responsibility when complaints came in. After a little while 62 horses died even after the owners removed the top soil, which was given to dispose of properly by another guy who just dumped it at someone else's property. People got sick with chloracne, the CDC got involved but their investigations took years. Bliss even when confronted by them refused to admit where he got the stuff. In 72 he was hired to spray down the towns dirt roads because they couldn't afford to upgrade them to tarmac. The EPA got involved in 79 and a leaked document of their findings in 82 enraged residents when it revealed the sheer level of contamination they were sat on and hadn't been warned of. The next day a massive flood caused the CDC to publicly recommended that it could not be re-inhabited. Over the next 3 years the town was evacuated and abandoned, torn down and a massive clean up was well underway.

  • @oliviermosimann6931
    @oliviermosimann6931 2 года назад +18

    I notice a trend in these disasters: Systematic slow/inadequate response of authorities, unheeded warnings, careless contractors.

    • @philyeary8809
      @philyeary8809 4 месяца назад

      I was just following orders deal....it lingers....

  • @annnee6818
    @annnee6818 2 года назад +19

    Isn't it comforting to know some things just never change? Companies still subcontract to the lowest bidder and still don't have to take responsibility.

  • @LethalJizzle
    @LethalJizzle 2 года назад +232

    To me the saga of the barrels is the biggest scandal. Ultimately the leak was an accident and they didn't realise the process could produce Dioxin, and the half measures taken by the local authorities can be put down to not fully comprehending how serious the situation was, but the barrels came after all the facts had come to light. An area was locked down like Prypyat, years and millions had been spent cleaning up which included the total loss of the facility, yet someone still decided to offload the barrels to a dodgy bloke in a van who'd get rid of them on the cheap as long as nobody asked how or where, which means they're going to be buried in a pit, lobbed in the sea, rolled into a ditch etc. Heads should have rolled for that as it almost equates to a deliberate chemical attack set to occur in a random place at a random time, since they knew they'd be dumped somewhere and remain lethal until they injured or killed someone. Thank god they were found before they leaked.

    • @theravenseye9443
      @theravenseye9443  2 года назад +62

      I agree - after five years of clean up you would think that disposing of the last 41 barrels would have been a simple matter... but no...

    • @marknestbox
      @marknestbox 2 года назад +26

      @@theravenseye9443 That's the behaviour of greedy corporates. The company should have been bankrupted through massive compensation pay out's to the numerous victims, all other assets seized and the company closed down, it would serve to show all others that illegal acts of negligence will be punishable to the fullest extent, and those directly responsible for failing to uphold safety standards will go to prison. Done!

    • @spateri728
      @spateri728 2 года назад +9

      It's not like they wouldn't have had chemist's working there. Whatever they were making would have various chemical reactions occurring for the finished product. That's why you have pressure relief valves because you're doing a chemical process that follows a formula. They would have known, especially the supervisor who chose to stop the chemical process over a whole weekend.
      As far as the barrels are concerned that's just Italy. Just have a look at the Gommorah's waste removal services.

    • @spateri728
      @spateri728 2 года назад +16

      Also if you're going to talk about Agent Orange victims perhaps mention the Vietnamese people that are still dealing with it today. Much more so than veterans and their families have had to deal with.

    • @reachandler3655
      @reachandler3655 2 года назад +5

      ​@@spateri728 The supervisor may not have known. Yes, he would have the practical knowledge that A, B and C need doing, and probably if X happens then do Y or contact Z... but he may not have known, or understood the chemical process.
      After all, I could make a loaf of bread, I don't understand how the ingredients interact, how yeast 'rises' etc, but I could still do it.

  • @JosiahGould
    @JosiahGould 2 года назад +70

    I'm fairly local to another dioxin release event, Times Beach, Missouri. Originally designed as a resort town it withered and had the dirt roads sprayed with bulk oil from a recycler. Unknown (or unwilling to know) to the recycler this oil contained high levels of dioxin and many other nasty chemicals from a former Agent Orange producing plant. The town is a ghost town now with a park and is now considered safe to visit again.

    • @EarlFaulk
      @EarlFaulk 2 года назад

      I was about to post this. The guy responsible was never sent to prison because the government couldnt prove he was knowingly spreading dioxin. The Feds then pressed the IRS to file false charges of tax evasion against him year after year until he went bankrupt. Dude had to spend the rest of his life living on the margins of society carrying a gun everywhere because of the death threats he faced.

    • @kimberlycrouch7228
      @kimberlycrouch7228 2 года назад +1

      Omg, I had never heard of that! What in the world!? Why spray dirt roads with oil to begin with, I wonder. Why are some people (in charge of making decisions) so stupid and uncaring! Not giving two shits about possible personal and environmental effects, that they’ve directly caused? Baffling.

    • @JosiahGould
      @JosiahGould 2 года назад +5

      @@kimberlycrouch7228 They used to spray the roads down with waste oil to keep the dust controlled.

    • @aneecedouglas9297
      @aneecedouglas9297 2 года назад

      Austin McConnell made a video on this topic, if you’re interested

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Год назад +1

      Michigan also has an Agent Orange related dioxin Superfund site that is at least 40 miles long trailing from Midland, MI down the Tittabawasee River to Saginaw where it meets the Saginaw River and reaches Middle Ground Island in Bay City. No oil, just straight leaking from the plant itself between 1953 and 1978. Fortunately, most of the flood plain is not inhabited and people have little exposure even prior to clean up efforts due to a series of devastating floods including one in 1986.

  • @cayasta1970
    @cayasta1970 2 года назад +134

    I was born and raised few kilometers away from Seveso and I was a child when this happened- actually now my brother lives there with his family. My brother and I were sent to live with my mom's aunt far way in Verona for many months, since the short as well as long lasting effects of this poisoning were hard to understand. My late father, during those years used to do extra jobs repairing cars and home appliance at people home to make some extra money then and had chance to meet some children whose face was disfigured by the chloracne like the sisters Senno. He was deeply touched and barely spoke about that. My mother for almost twenty years was a voluntary patient screened on a yearly basis by Dr. Mocarelli's medical team based in Desio, which kept on studying the health statistics of the affected area since the very first days, trying to understand the long lasting effects. My mom passed away for a voracious form of lung cancer few years ago, still young, even if that was unlikely caused by the dioxin.

    • @PibrochPonder
      @PibrochPonder 2 года назад +5

      You have fantastic English 😀

    • @kimberlycrouch7228
      @kimberlycrouch7228 2 года назад +2

      I’m sorry to hear that, ty for sharing.

    • @cayasta1970
      @cayasta1970 2 года назад +4

      @@kimberlycrouch7228 thank you Kimberly. I would like to point out that we manage to go on, my parents had a very incredible strength and determination to face such situation I could ever hardly match.

    • @capnjackgallows3204
      @capnjackgallows3204 Год назад +3

      @@cayasta1970 your parents sounded like an enduring tough couple , very admirable

    • @cayasta1970
      @cayasta1970 Год назад +1

      @@capnjackgallows3204 they were Indeed.

  • @charliekezza
    @charliekezza 2 года назад +21

    "We'll put the barrels somewhere safe just don't ask where"
    Umm that's not gonna be somewhere safe

    • @testaccount4191
      @testaccount4191 2 года назад +1

      jokes on them they buried it under the local mayors summer house.

  • @jimclark6256
    @jimclark6256 2 года назад +35

    There is a common thread that goes through most of these great videos. That it, that no one is really held accountable.

    • @jayjaynella4539
      @jayjaynella4539 2 года назад +2

      The sole purpose of a corporation is to avoid liability for any acts of destruction.

  • @geoffrogers7776
    @geoffrogers7776 2 года назад +10

    Thank you. I’d never heard of this before. So similar to Bophal. Another company doing its dirty work in someone else’s backyard.

  • @daneiten1
    @daneiten1 2 года назад +46

    So many of your stories that I've never heard of before. Thank you and we'll done.

  • @donkeydan5996
    @donkeydan5996 2 года назад +5

    1:48 “The chemicals will be OK until Monday morning “, I love how you said that 😆

  • @AddRandomFakeNameHere
    @AddRandomFakeNameHere 2 года назад +16

    There use to be a town near where I live called Times Beach. The soil around the town was mistakenly contaminated with TCDD (dioxin). The entire town was abandoned and destroyed in 1983. Years later the land was turned into a state park.

    • @ktcooki276
      @ktcooki276 2 года назад +3

      Wow! Crazy!🇬🇧😮😊

  • @Musachovzkji
    @Musachovzkji 2 года назад +68

    Born and raised near Seveso (literally a couple of town and villages over), this area is full of chemical implants -we have an Henkel plant in the middle of a little town around here- and heavy industries.
    Seveso's incident was a big thing around here, it took decades to found healthy fishes in the Seveso river and it also had a big impact on our abortion legislation (it was illegal back then, but the then Health Minister authorized it for women in the affected areas, taken in account the high risk of malformations in the unborn babies).
    That being said, that's the epitome of the Italian nonchalant way to deal with this kind of disasters: a shitshow were the ones that are supposed to pay the most are the ones that get away with crime (at least we got the Seveso directive, but meh).
    If you are interested in this kind pf things, I advise you to look into the ThyssenKroup disaster in Turin or the Vajont disaster.

    • @ClockworkChainsaw
      @ClockworkChainsaw 2 года назад

      I do hope you mean plants, not implants. Implanting chemicals does not sound like a good idea

    • @Musachovzkji
      @Musachovzkji 2 года назад +7

      @@ClockworkChainsaw yeah, sorry. English is not my first language, but, btw, having chemical plants in a small village centre close to an elementary school and a kindergarten (literally like a couple of meters away) is still not a good idea, so...

    • @SpywareEverywhere
      @SpywareEverywhere 2 года назад +5

      It really speaks to me of what rotten people they were when they gave the barrels away and told the new owners not to tell them where they were going to send them. That is a horrible insult to all of the people who suffered from the original dioxin poisoning. Absolutely awful.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 года назад +4

      Unfortunately you have summarised the typical Italian attitude of the authorities full of indecisiveness all concerned. It was at last actuated only after the company took the belated courage to take immediate action and steps to evacuate Seveso simply because the company knew what they were doing and producing. Despite the nonsense flying around, in truth absolutely nobody was hold responsible for this disaster, not even the authorities that kept quite for two weeks. Really an impressive display of shameful Italian attitude....

    • @Musachovzkji
      @Musachovzkji 2 года назад +1

      @@paoloviti6156 as usual.

  • @BradGryphonn
    @BradGryphonn 2 года назад +7

    I'm near 59 years old and never heard of this event until now. Thank you so much for enlightening me. I guess our news in Australia didn't focus on this at the time. I was a young news geek.

    • @JosephKulik2016
      @JosephKulik2016 2 года назад +3

      Dear Brad: I'm a 72 year old American who has always been a news geek too. But it wasn't until the Internet came along that I realized what a "news bubble" I had lived in up until then. With the Internet came access to news outlets around America and the World. The first thing that blew my mind was finding the Canadian Broadcasting Co (CBC) and realizing what a "news blackout" of Canada there is right here in America. For American mainstream media, Canada literally doesn't exist. And in Australia, news outlets like 60 Minutes and ABC have provided me with stories from around the World that American News never touches, like the retribution killing of White People in S Africa after Apartheid ended. The Internet has shown me how narrow the spectrum of News is in any given country. As a news geek, the Internet is like being a kid set free in a Candy Store !!!

    • @JosipRadnik1
      @JosipRadnik1 4 месяца назад +1

      Being a swiss guy from the area of Basle where Hoffmann La Roche was located that was a rather big story in my youth. Although I must admit I did not get all the details at the time that it happened. But I remember the scanal about the missing barrels quite well.

  • @indahooddererste
    @indahooddererste 2 года назад +16

    I remember a documentary about the aftermath. The new german director of this plant called to the HQ of Roche that this plant was a ticking bomb and at catastrophic conditions. Roche purchased this plant not long ago. The director was made a scapegoat for the officials and Roche. When this docu had his Premiere victims were invited and he asked them for forgiveness.

  • @alanemarson
    @alanemarson 2 года назад +29

    I'd never heard of this before - thank you for the video. That chlor-acne (sp?) looks horrific :(

    • @theravenseye9443
      @theravenseye9443  2 года назад +13

      A previous president of Ukraine (Victor Yuschenko I think?) was poisoned with dioxin - if you google him you can see how it affected his face with chloracne - horrible stuff.

  • @kzrlgo
    @kzrlgo 2 года назад +35

    Great channel! Good audio, interesting stories, well presented. Look forward to seeing the channel grow.

  • @mosestheleader25
    @mosestheleader25 2 года назад +19

    i can already feel this channel is going to blow up real SOON into hundreds of thousands of views. keep it up my guy!

  • @Syclone0044
    @Syclone0044 2 года назад +8

    This channel is outstanding and bingeworthy. 👏👏👏
    But damn, as someone with severe anxiety, I have got to stop watching these in bed right before I try to sleep

    • @St.Linguini_of_Pesto
      @St.Linguini_of_Pesto 2 года назад +1

      LMMFAO, @Syclone0044.. I watch these in the daytime, and I am _still_ terrified.

  • @mathieu3201
    @mathieu3201 2 года назад +5

    The Seveso name was given to a series of EU directives on chemical risk management: Seveso in 1982, Seveso II in 1996, and Seveso III in 2012. One aspect of the Seveso directives is to classify industrial sites according to the type and maximum quantity of dangerous chemicals that can be present on the site. Sites can be classified as "Seveso high", "Seveso low", or not classified, and have corresponding obligations and oversight.

  • @MystOfOblivion
    @MystOfOblivion Год назад +3

    I just knew when the barrels were mentioned the first time where that story was going... Unbelievable with what companies get away with, and how little they seemed to care where this stuff ended up.

  • @grandgao3984
    @grandgao3984 Год назад +3

    6:32 At least that senior chemist and his/her team from Hoffman Laroche had some balls to do what's right. Hard to imagine how even worse it could get should officials decide to simply suppress the issue without the decision to evacuate the area.

  • @ilgiusto6885
    @ilgiusto6885 Год назад +3

    Servizio molto interessante e completo, molti particolari non li conoscevo nemmeno io anche se ero un bambino, all'epoca

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 Год назад +2

    I remember in the german press, as a short explanation Dioxin was called "the poison of Seveso" for decades to remind people how lethal it was

  • @WK-47
    @WK-47 2 года назад +6

    Nice work here, mate. Never heard of this event. Always refreshing when channels cover the more regional, less famous topics. Keep it up.

  • @susiesweet8003
    @susiesweet8003 2 года назад +3

    Why am I not surprised those barrels disappeared & ended up where they weren't supposed to be. 🤬

  • @elmin82
    @elmin82 2 года назад +3

    i'm from Italy and i know this accident .. good video

  • @mineown1861
    @mineown1861 2 года назад +6

    I'd read about this , the photographs of children with chloracne were a terrible sight. I'd never heard of the missing barrels before , you'd have thought after all that had happened the company would have actually responsibly disposed of them rather than merely making them disappear. Another corporation defining safety in terms of legal exposure rather than chemical exposure , what they can get away with versus what they should do .

  • @patrickyorke3028
    @patrickyorke3028 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic video, thank you. Must have heard about it when it happened when I was 18 but never again until I saw this. It beggars belief that Roche wouldn't want to know where the contaminated waste was dumped.

  • @ashishjoshi8148
    @ashishjoshi8148 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is terrible! People never learn, do they? Two years after the Seveso affair there was a deadly gas leak at a chemical plant in Bhopal, India, that would claim thousands of lives. And two years later, Chernobyl...

  • @chrissilvester5663
    @chrissilvester5663 2 года назад +1

    Love your content mate. Your videos are so well narrated & covered in great detail. Great to see actual footage & photos aswell.

  • @pp3k3jamail
    @pp3k3jamail 2 года назад +2

    💥💥 This seems to be a common thing back in the 60s, 70s and mid 80s for these toxic gases to be released on public and innocent people near a city

  • @xmmx9909
    @xmmx9909 4 месяца назад

    Excellent post thank you. Really like that the visuals of the present-day park was mid-video instead near the end. And reading the statement from La Roche without saying the obvious afterwards - that they essentially positioned themselves as heroes and the govt villains. Well researched and succinct.

  • @elliottprice6084
    @elliottprice6084 2 года назад +3

    This disaster was a scandal from the get go. And as in a lot of disasters of this kind, little or none in the way of criminal conviction happened. As for the 41 barrels of waste, what happened with them was beyond belief

  • @kscorp5176
    @kscorp5176 2 года назад +17

    You put plenty of effort into this and it shows! I hadn't heard about the disposal farce with the barrels in any other video about Seveso - well done!

  • @Soundbrigade
    @Soundbrigade 2 года назад +3

    Went there when working for IKEA to visit a machinery building company in 1989. I asked the sales manager about the Seveso catastrophe and he plainly expressed that it was just i “minute incident” ….

    • @julosx
      @julosx 2 года назад

      A "minute incident" that was followed by massive bodies of laws valid all across Europe under the three different Seveso orders (1 in 1982, 2 in 1996 and 3 in 2012).

  • @marisael-irtaimeh9200
    @marisael-irtaimeh9200 2 года назад +6

    I'm very happy to have just discovered you! I'm going to subscribe to your channel. Great presentation. Interesting topics. Thank you!

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru Год назад +2

    -What do you do here?
    -We make furniture!
    -Also chemicals.

    • @rmlego6348
      @rmlego6348 Месяц назад

      Luckily not in the same factory...

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 2 года назад +1

    Great vid Raven's Eye. I enjoy your narration style.

  • @Meandbestiw_SLAY
    @Meandbestiw_SLAY 2 года назад +3

    Great channel, all the videos are top notch. Thank you

  • @jameswebb4593
    @jameswebb4593 Год назад +1

    Worthwhile doing one of your in depth pods of the Bari Mustard gas incident on Dec 2 1943 .

  • @graywolfalphaone
    @graywolfalphaone 2 года назад +5

    Wow. I never imagined something like that would happen in Italy of all places.

    • @stephenbrand5661
      @stephenbrand5661 2 года назад +3

      Is this supposed to be a joke?

    • @graywolfalphaone
      @graywolfalphaone 2 года назад

      @@stephenbrand5661 yes. Italy like many industrial countrys has a long history of letting thongs slide till it explodes. Tragically...

  • @That_Emily
    @That_Emily Год назад +1

    imagine being the guy getting call saying they found the barrels 9 years later and you guys are liable for it still

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe Год назад +1

    And I remember the blocking of the entrance of the Roche HQ by the WWF a few years later (1984) because of the loss of the highly contaminated barrels with the remaining products of the reactor. I was 6 when the accident happened .
    I forgot to mention,I’m a Basler!

  • @anfieldlegend
    @anfieldlegend 2 года назад

    just discovered your channel and am enjoying your content. thank you

  • @Youcanttouchmyhandle
    @Youcanttouchmyhandle Год назад +1

    You do such a fantastic job.
    Could you do some on medical companies and medication deaths and deformities?
    Please if it interests you of course.
    Keep up the great work.
    Thank you for shinning a light on these events.
    RiP to so many lives lost❤
    RIP to the Nature , Animals and Earth destroyed ❤️‍🔥

  • @Kealthas1974
    @Kealthas1974 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic video, very interesting 👍🏻

  • @nikanoru13
    @nikanoru13 Год назад

    What baffles me the most is that there was a law prohibiting the production of chemicals on weekends

  • @hi.moriarty
    @hi.moriarty 2 года назад +4

    "Zone 'A' and the two giant sarcophagi are buried under meters of new soil and are now located within part of the Seveso Oak Forest Park."
    Again, as I said in my comment for the South Koreana hotel fire video, we walk through a hidden past completely unaware. That's really spooky to me.
    Thank you for your research and for bringing obscure cases to my attention.

    • @Musachovzkji
      @Musachovzkji 2 года назад +1

      No, trust me, here almost everyone knows what's hidden under the Oak Forest.
      The real issue is not that it's hidden -again, we all know-, it's that in this country tragedies keep happening because of this mindset, which looks like our trademark...

    • @hi.moriarty
      @hi.moriarty 2 года назад

      @@Musachovzkji That's a sad, sad thing. 💖

  • @naarahjanemorris3121
    @naarahjanemorris3121 2 года назад

    Thanks for the Informative Video it's so sad that they didn't evacuate sooner or inform the public that's negligence & its Really Sad that so many people & animals & children died because of there Incompetence RIP to those who lost their lives due to this toxic leak into the atmosphere its disgusting that the barrels weren't found until 1980's OMG.

  • @wrmlm37
    @wrmlm37 Год назад +1

    Chloracne? I have NEVER heard of, nor seen that before. That is incredibly disfiguring-how did they cope?

  • @Cyanide999
    @Cyanide999 Год назад +3

    Here after the Ohio dioxin release disaster!

  • @moxiemaxie3543
    @moxiemaxie3543 2 года назад +2

    I want street justice on the authorities and politicians who ignore possible mass harm or death. "Let's keep the public ignorant to the situation so we stay in power. Even if it kills them"

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 Год назад

    Great video thanks

  • @firstprototype
    @firstprototype 2 года назад +1

    Sadly 😥 nothing is learned from this, people in power still don't care to understand the danger of chemicals!
    When power and money are at stake people lives don't matter, we can see this effect from that point until now!
    Luckily is a simple situation to this, be good, be kind and love one another ❤️.

  • @Prawnsly
    @Prawnsly Год назад

    This has finally given me context for that one episode of Yes, Minister.

  • @jenniferbreaux7385
    @jenniferbreaux7385 Год назад +1

    This is terrible. I'd never heard of this event

  • @TalRohan
    @TalRohan Год назад

    I would call it Italy's Monsanto although it pales in to almost insignificance compared to the deliberate release of Dioxin and PCB at Monsanto
    I am continually surprised by how many of these I actually remember or have some memory of, most happening within my lifetime.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @Datadog-1
    @Datadog-1 Год назад

    I’d love to hear the reasoning behind a law that forbids the production of hazardous chemicals on weekends…..

  • @ianlayton6949
    @ianlayton6949 Год назад +2

    Judging by your accent RE, you're from not too far away from me in NE Derbyshire, so, if you're old enough, you may remember the "Shadow over Shuttlewood" dioxin spill. This came from the Coalite Chemicals plant near Bolsover and contaminated nearby farmland and villages.
    Like your story here, it was unconcernered management (who mostly lived many miles away) that was the cause, but here the UK govt of Margaret Thatcher actively helped cover up the outbreak.
    I was a local Greenpeace activist at the time and flasks of contaminated ash from the faulty incinerator sat on my back room floor for a while before heading away for analysis.

    • @MikeH_PR
      @MikeH_PR Год назад

      Hi Ian, you wouldn't happen to have kept a VHS of the BBC Close Up North documentary on that? I was the researcher and the BBC didn't keep a copy. Occasionally I do a search, but nothing turns up.

    • @ianlayton6949
      @ianlayton6949 Год назад

      @@MikeH_PR
      Sorry mate. I remember your documentary well - even the trailer for it, but I don't have a copy. Have you asked Greenpeace UK head office? They may have one - or maybe Dennis Skinner?

  • @patriot9455
    @patriot9455 9 месяцев назад

    If you can find it Rachel Carson's book "Silent Spring" is well worth the read. I read it, one of my first looks at chemical contamination. Chemicals can be processed safely, but it takes involvement of communities before plants are built.

  • @randyrobertson6116
    @randyrobertson6116 2 года назад +9

    I highly doubt that law was just passed in the recent days leading up to the accident. So you mean to tell us ( and I don't mean this channel )
    that up until now...the date of said incident, this practice of leaving the chemicals over the weekend unchecked was never applied?
    Or had this practice been done often however with lady luck on their side?
    So if that's the case I suppose that this factory had been extremely lucky this incident had never occurred before. I'm saying it seems that the employees had more than likely been lax on regulatory compliance quite often leading up to the event. So this was a practice that was more or less a ticking time bomb just waiting for the deck of cards to all fall in place.

    • @Musachovzkji
      @Musachovzkji 2 года назад +6

      Welcome to Italy, people here do the most stupid things because they got lucky for years... Then tragedies happen and the "we didn't know/we didn't thought this could happen/how could we know?" starts. Every. Single. Time.
      I've been hearing this leitmotif since I was a baby, my dad's been hearing this since he was a baby, my grandparents've been hearing this since they were babies... My ex-fiancée have been working in chemicals factories since he was 18, I've heard such horror stories, you have no idea.

    • @reachandler3655
      @reachandler3655 2 года назад +2

      The locals didn't think much about the coloured dust or vile smell as it was a common occurrence. Unfortunately, this time, it was a potentially deadly occurrence.

  • @danielmorse4213
    @danielmorse4213 2 года назад

    I remember this in the news as a little kid. Wow.

  • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
    @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 года назад +24

    I'd say it's Italy's Chernobyl rather than Hiroshima.
    The common theme of incompetence is what makes it more apt.

    • @joannawilk2731
      @joannawilk2731 2 года назад +2

      Had the same thought, it has nothing in common with Hiroshima

    • @Avellania
      @Avellania 2 года назад +3

      @@joannawilk2731 They could only compare it to Hiroshima back then because Chernobyl hadn't happened yet.

    • @angelat7957
      @angelat7957 Год назад

      Workers are as competent as the the training they receive from their company. This is Bophal. Rich country's company outsourcing environmental hazard where lesser human lives are considered more expandable. The much-celebrated Swiss have a history of doing this in Italy.

  • @itsjohndell
    @itsjohndell Год назад

    Simply superb.

  • @roccocoyote
    @roccocoyote Год назад +1

    "The barrels where finally incinerated at a La Roche facility in Switzerland" Yeah right!

  • @labyrinthgirl17
    @labyrinthgirl17 Год назад +2

    When I heard TCDD, my heart sank, as I knew before you even said it, that was in Agent Orange. Also, I cannot comprehend the reluctance some have to evacuations, like have they never heard of the saying, "Better safe than sorry?"
    Okay, you don't know what chemicals leaked? Fine, tell everyone to clear out until you do and lower the chance of poisoning people while you figure out what happened; instead of sitting around with your thumbs up your butts and causing innocent people harm with your hemming and hawing.

  • @ThePresidentofMars
    @ThePresidentofMars 2 года назад +4

    Before being told where the barrels ended up after being handed over to the second company i was expecting it to be revealed that they were the cia or something like that getting materials for what could be used for a prototype agent orange

  • @Scraggledust
    @Scraggledust Год назад

    Scary to think, this is a drop in the bucket and how often these dirty transactions actually happen worldwide.

  • @yveaux500
    @yveaux500 3 месяца назад

    3:51 that’s actually a more modern C-130 Hercules being used as a fire bomber to fight wildfires. It’s not an aircraft spraying agent orange. Apart from that; great video.

  • @andy70d35
    @andy70d35 2 года назад +2

    Will we ever learn from the mistakes of the past? Guess not, corporate greed will always out way the truth, and the shareholders.

  • @malletgrl
    @malletgrl 2 года назад

    Have you thought about releasing these as a podcast. I like watching them on RUclips but I know people that only really do podcast form

  • @Verilee1970
    @Verilee1970 2 года назад +3

    Hrm, if CEOs of every chemical company had to worry about assassination maybe there'd be fewer disasters!

  • @satokumasmom5348
    @satokumasmom5348 2 года назад

    Wow… I have never heard of this

  • @fredericjuliard4261
    @fredericjuliard4261 2 года назад +1

    Merci.

  • @janette2691
    @janette2691 Месяц назад

    4:18 those poor cats, birds, chickens, animals and plants

  • @wrmlm37
    @wrmlm37 Год назад

    "A reddish colored cloud"!!! A terrible smell? Oh FFS! Now, we would all be running from it, the local government agency comes in for containment and cleanup. A kilogram? That's all? How truly awful. The Summer countryside blighted. Creepy too.

  • @toter-drache
    @toter-drache Год назад +2

    So, the company responsable had facilities of it's own to incinerate the barrels contents, they chose not to do that and, instead chose to use a Three Stooges level alternative company to dispose of the barrels, only to, in the end, many years later, after being exposed, bring the barrels to their own facility and incinerate them? 🤔

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind Год назад

      Facilities and capacity are two different things. They had to have their own lab waste handled by another facility for quite a while to free up the capacity to handle those high-profile barrels. Contaminated PPE isn't exactly a type of waste anyone has spare capacity for, as the amounts any lab generates are quite regular.

  • @Chocoboranger
    @Chocoboranger 2 года назад +1

    Imagine being a future archeologist and finding this sarcophagus of random animal skeletons, rubble, and misc stuff.

    • @moschettiflavio3635
      @moschettiflavio3635 Год назад +1

      Even the machinery used to remove soil and demolish the buildings and the chemical reactor itself enclosed into a concrete block

  • @jimmelka8132
    @jimmelka8132 3 месяца назад

    From 1969 to 1972 I did 8 NON-combat supply deployments close support of U.S. Navy destroyers patrolling the coast of North Vietnam. "Yankee Station" Tonkin Gulf deployments. In February of 2016, 46 years later, just 6 weeks into my retirement after 44 years of on the road being a repair tech, I suffered my first Agent Orange related heart attack. The veins that supply the left side of my heart blood had collapsed. I had other symptoms before this, (neuropathy, colitis, etc.) but it was never connected to my service until after the heart attack. Bottom line is, in 2018 I was rated "100 % Totally and Permanently Disabled - Agent Orange - Secondary Exposure - Drinking Water" by the Veterans Administration. I'm now in the non-assisted part of an "end of life community" and my retirement is ruined. The V.A. takes good care of me. Toxins are everywhere. P.F.A.Fs in water, etc. Only drink and cook with bottled water. Please be careful.

  • @sebastianseveso
    @sebastianseveso Год назад

    grazzie!

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 2 года назад +1

    There's workers who are too lazy and frankly don't care to do what they should to prevent huge tragedies, but this incident seems caused entirely due to stupidity. The company didn't even give their employees a clue. Why did I figure the barrels went in the ocean, thank God I was wrong.

  • @vaporwavevocap
    @vaporwavevocap Год назад

    It's another example as to why government regulations only lead to a shirking of responsibility for the Corporations and the oppression of the individual small business. If there was actual competition on a free market, these events would have destroyed a company like Hoffman-La Roche.

    • @hydromic2518
      @hydromic2518 Год назад

      Bruh what do you mean. The only reason why most of these types of disasters don’t happen that much or not all is because of government regulations. None of these are perfect but at least companies don’t play with the lives of workers and people living nearby. A good example are the videos posted by USCSB, the us chemical safety board

  • @jorgezarco9269
    @jorgezarco9269 Год назад

    Poor cat. Nightmare City(1980) is loosely based on the Seveso disaster.

  • @PhilipDeLamarter
    @PhilipDeLamarter 11 месяцев назад

    Toxic waste cleanup - don't ask, don't tell.

  • @jeromefitzroy
    @jeromefitzroy 7 месяцев назад

    Bhopal, Seveso, Minamata. These are reasons why regular government regulation is important!

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors 2 года назад +1

    10:03 how nice. No one is likely even told !!!

  • @PoorMansChemist
    @PoorMansChemist Год назад +3

    How does the dioxin just disappear after 300 years?

    • @hydromic2518
      @hydromic2518 Год назад +1

      Probably absorbed and broken down my the materials that absorbed it

    • @PoorMansChemist
      @PoorMansChemist Год назад +1

      @@hydromic2518 Or they're full of shit and this stuff is going to be around for over 300 years. The molecules are very stable. Especially if they're sequestered from the environment. So what exactly is going to make it break down? Absorbent materials are not catalysts. At least not in this situation.

  • @brianbp4f
    @brianbp4f Год назад +1

    Ultimately leading to the Seveso Directive

  • @kittymama6317
    @kittymama6317 2 года назад

    Oh those pictures of the children! 😭

  • @archipiratta
    @archipiratta Год назад

    So someone agrees to take something very hazardous from you on condition that you don't ask them what they did with it and you're ok with that?! Seriously?!?!

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe Год назад

    Building 3 ? Building B !
    The incinerator was/is property of CIba-Geigy , now Novartis…
    Damages were paid,around 10 million Euros to the four affected municipalities…

  • @thomaskeeler912
    @thomaskeeler912 Год назад

    Almost makes one wish for a world corporate government panopticon.

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 2 года назад +11

    Its not often that I find myself agreeing with marxist extremists, but this time I do.

  • @bluesioux9538
    @bluesioux9538 2 года назад

    Well, despite newer regulations and safety equipment, some things never change....ppl get sloppy, circumvent processes and companies look for scapegoats to point their fingers at.

  • @moukka1760
    @moukka1760 Год назад

    its quite interesting. we swedes are not permitted by EU-regulation to sell our Baltic fish to other countries due to high dioxin content. Swedish paper Industry pumped a huge amount of dioxin the the Baltic ocean and thus made a huge disruption in the Eco system

  • @felixthecleaner8843
    @felixthecleaner8843 Год назад

    wow - what an awful mess and mismanagement at every level.

  • @barbarafogle3541
    @barbarafogle3541 Год назад

    You can't burn that stuff and it go away. More like it was widely distributed and spread far and wide.