How I'm Escaping Currency Poverty

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @cespinar
    @cespinar Месяц назад +130

    3:07 "We always want to be getting pegged" ooOOooOOOoo
    But seriously, get manaforged arrow-mirror archer of bombard-combustion can get you ignite

    • @bryansans2564
      @bryansans2564 Месяц назад +4

      Yea. Surely they are better terms 😂

    • @laffytaffykidd
      @laffytaffykidd Месяц назад +1

      I'll let my neighbors know about this.

    • @justinrentfrow1117
      @justinrentfrow1117 Месяц назад +5

      He should have more than 3 Div if he is doing THAT. 😂

  • @Azerialdreamweaver
    @Azerialdreamweaver Месяц назад +19

    im having a weird morning. "We always have to be pegged" had me laughin for minutes
    🤣

  • @stu.chainz
    @stu.chainz Месяц назад +19

    Hey!!! I’m real!!! And I actually love your videos!!! Keep up the great work Sub. Been watching you for years and I admire you trying to do new things for your channel. You live, you learn. We’ll all be here 😄
    (Wanted a nice comment that wasn’t just a bot 😂)

  • @fireroc20
    @fireroc20 Месяц назад +18

    we always wanna be getting pegged ?! yeah ima try this build out asap.

  • @madhatten5123
    @madhatten5123 Месяц назад +65

    There are plenty of ways to make currency they just aren’t very fun.

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir Месяц назад +8

      The whole point of a game is to have fun. The only way you can play the game the wrong way is by not having fun whilst playing it.

    • @ruibarian5187
      @ruibarian5187 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@AlucardNoirI'd actually challenge that. Spec Ops: the Line was at no point a "fun" experience, but it is one of the best games I've ever played. I think there's a lot of value in playing games that aren't fun, even in PoE there are a lot of "unfun" things that you learn, like how to arbitrage and engage with the market. It's very unfun when you lose in the market, even if it's fun to be the one making the currency.

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify Месяц назад +18

      @@ruibarian5187 Leave it to a PoE player to "challenge" the idea that you should be having fun in a game...

    • @kisamamorningstar9275
      @kisamamorningstar9275 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@ruibarian5187I disagree. Spec Ops was fun and engaging with the market, including losing, is fun as well. There are different ways to have fun in video games. I think in your comment, you're disregarding the fact that what is exciting pr "fun" for you can be vastly different for someone else.

    • @madhatten5123
      @madhatten5123 Месяц назад +6

      @@AlucardNoir tell GGG that not me. Its not my fault they have removed fun ways to make currency. They nerfed the fun mechanics that they brought back to the point of uselessness. They delete the fun out of their own game not my fault.

  • @vorg956
    @vorg956 Месяц назад +10

    Seed money of 3 divines, not had a single one of boats

  • @julianolotero6600
    @julianolotero6600 Месяц назад +22

    3:07 He really put the "Sub" in Subtractem.

  • @EvilWeiRamirez
    @EvilWeiRamirez Месяц назад +1

    Interrogation offers 5 ailments, scorch, brittle, sap, chill, and shock. You get 4 base as long as you are freezing. Getting scorch, sap, or brittle seems like a solid option instead of interrogation.

  • @proceduraldad2578
    @proceduraldad2578 Месяц назад

    I really respect the positive attitude you have here. Considering how much time you invested and the fact you exit without even a good character, some might be so bitter. You're pretty awesome.

  • @ThirtyfourEC
    @ThirtyfourEC Месяц назад +1

    I didn't expect to hear SF6 music here.
    Hope you enjoyed EVO

  • @CypherOfSolace
    @CypherOfSolace Месяц назад +4

    3:05 woah woah, Phrasing!

  • @aros7629
    @aros7629 Месяц назад +5

    As much as I appreciate the thought of playing the market with your mirror shard. Spending that on character power this early is so much more beneficial. I think people underestimate solo play and how they have there own ways of owning the long term market. I don't wanna give away all my secrets. 😅

  • @utmastuh
    @utmastuh Месяц назад

    Crops + dust on boats has been lucrative. Never thought I'd be on a boooooooat. Highly recommend trying the frost blades of katabasis build. It destroys maps and is very budget friendly

  • @Psycoholic2008
    @Psycoholic2008 Месяц назад

    Hey Sub I just wanted to say thank you for reminding me I could invest. I've been playing hard the lat 9 days, farmed ~60 Div ontop of my 10 div Archmage Nova character.
    I just liquidated everything into 3 Mirror Shards (first time in 4k hours I've done this), and going to restart the league with 3divs as a Hexblast and go play Sanctum for a couple weeks. This is going to be such a fun league. Can't wait to see you Stream.

  • @King-HenryIV
    @King-HenryIV Месяц назад

    I league started a warden Elemental hit of the spectrum and I’m loving it…followed snoos build. It absolutely slays. Good luck bud, I know you’ll be fine and rich in weeks

  • @PharCry
    @PharCry Месяц назад +1

    Nothing like getting pegged before grinding xD Good luck on the rebound, get that money

  • @hsdExorcist
    @hsdExorcist Месяц назад +5

    Drops from mobs do feel way worse. I've got a Mageblood from a shipment, I am very happy but now I am a homeless guy wearing a Mageblood, don't wanna sell it cause it's gonna very good for my build😂

    • @McGirthius
      @McGirthius Месяц назад

      Even if you wanted to sell it you should wait for a few weeks because it will triple in value. There are very, very few builds that can’t be made better with a Mageblood.
      You’re basically set for the entire league to have any OP character you want.

    • @hsdExorcist
      @hsdExorcist Месяц назад

      @@McGirthius yeah you're right, I would rather keep it and slowly build my damage. Cause if I sell it I will buy all the items, I will get bored sooner cause there wont be much else to upgrade but to buy a Mageblood lol :D

  • @nathanfay1988
    @nathanfay1988 Месяц назад +4

    Got my 21 div for Replica Farrul's Fur in first 3 days of league from Tujen. He gave me a 5 div offer and a 3 div offer which carried a lot of it

  • @snoobae8553
    @snoobae8553 Месяц назад

    You can never go wrong with Ele Hit Deadeye. But I suggest looking into Warden if you haven’t yet already. ;)

  • @Dimitriedu
    @Dimitriedu Месяц назад

    IMO, PoE is not a party friendly game. The amount of preparation prior to league start (of you wanna play "right), get a new layer when you want to play with friends, 'cause build must be "compatible" somehow. We all know the auramancer needed, but, it's hard to level it when no friends can help you, so you need to coordinate hours of play. The speed of the chars need to be the same or near it, all have to have the same mind set, it's all too much work for something that must be FUN.
    Add the "portals" problem, the "i can run this maps but my friend can't", level of skills, and it all add to the not-fun game when co-op.
    This season was the first that i tried the "party" campaign running, and while i admit is faster that running solo (for someone that's it's terrible finishing fast the campaign... or maps), it still has many problems and difficulties for new players (like, if you are not in the boss instance when killed, it doesn't count for you, and need to open a new map instance, running it all over again)..
    This is the biggest problem i got when i try to introduce the game to friends and new players: this is not an easy game to party play, and forget about something like a PUG like any other mmorpg.

  • @HeliumHe
    @HeliumHe Месяц назад

    I was not the guy doing mf or juiced map farming in the first place, and somehow, this league makes expedition very lucrative for me with Rog + Recombination.

  • @ijlal3338
    @ijlal3338 Месяц назад

    You should definitely reconsider the mirror shard. It's way better to invest that into character power or a strategy so that you can see bigger gains sooner rather than later, you'll be able to invest into more appreciating assets this way. Regardless, I wish you the best of luck this league after that unfortunate league start.

  • @svdwellen
    @svdwellen Месяц назад

    For everyone who watches this without seeing the other video, he regretted going jungle valley and blue altars, instead he recommends dunes and red altars

  • @mrheckles6076
    @mrheckles6076 Месяц назад +1

    Hey subtractem, from your frostblink ignite build, at which lvl do you recomend going from no cluster to cluster?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +1

      94ish is usually when I switch.

  • @Tuloth
    @Tuloth Месяц назад

    I'm having a straight up bad time as Lacerate Glad but we're getting there, thanks for sharing your strats!

  • @hayleygeek
    @hayleygeek Месяц назад

    I've been playing constantly since launch and have had 1 div drop all league so far lol, im legit poor poor xD, trying to get my build to a comfy spot for juiced maps, but its coping ok with heist and red maps (not juiced) right now, ill get there though :D

  • @lycheegreenteawithlycheejelly
    @lycheegreenteawithlycheejelly Месяц назад +1

    I'm surprised you're not going the tried and true, expedition

  • @Xeratas
    @Xeratas Месяц назад

    What I don't get, apperently everyone is poor right now, but for some reason, people can affort to pay dozens of divines for my essence spammed gear.
    I seriously don't understand how that works. If everyone is poor, me as a person who makes their most money with crafting shouldn't make bank on very mid items.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад

      There are plenty of ways to generate currency still (I got 4 raw divs just from boats in the past day) but the traditional "juice maps, kill monsters, get loot" system is mostly dead outside of tile based loot (legion) or T17s. So the floor for comfortable currency farming is just higher/more specialized.

  • @pgbollwerk
    @pgbollwerk Месяц назад +1

    I assume you don’t like Sanctum, since that’s good money.

  • @thefinoll1535
    @thefinoll1535 Месяц назад +9

    THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!

  • @blade2040
    @blade2040 Месяц назад

    Me: Oh cool he has a video about how to get out of currency poverty. I only have like 30 chaos maybe this will be helpful!
    Subtractem: Ok first start out with 100 chaos and 3 divine...
    Me: ........

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +5

      Chaos recipe my dude, you can run blood aqueducts and Tier 1 maps with rogue exiles for a few hours and make 3+ divines. Just pick up unid'd rare items and sell a full set to a vendor for 2c each. That's really the floor to currency making that is accessible to everyone.
      Also just sending your boats out this league should make you around 50c an hour if you sell the small currency.

    • @blade2040
      @blade2040 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem Thank you so much!

  • @adamwoods8202
    @adamwoods8202 Месяц назад

    Nice positivity bro! Question… Is the harvest Strat from last season dear now because of quant nerf? Or still ok?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +1

      Should be totally fine, most harvest farmers focused more on pack size than player quant.

  • @musicapmftfr
    @musicapmftfr Месяц назад

    Hey @subtractem, great video and would love to see how much you make, I was also doing same strat, so my question is:
    What do you buy or in general what are good items to buy in order to maintain value since divine orbs, usually start to lose value? Thanks man

  • @Kunioh14
    @Kunioh14 Месяц назад +6

    group play fuckd up? this has to be the best league ever

    • @davidmaltais2912
      @davidmaltais2912 Месяц назад +2

      Nipe

    • @jonthebasedgod3417
      @jonthebasedgod3417 Месяц назад +4

      top end solo play has quite literally always been better than group play. where do you all get this mindset from?

    • @davidmaltais2912
      @davidmaltais2912 Месяц назад +1

      @@jonthebasedgod3417 not true at all....

    • @jonthebasedgod3417
      @jonthebasedgod3417 Месяц назад +1

      @@davidmaltais2912 100% is true, with thousands of hours of gameplay/spreadsheet data to support it.
      last league for example was Empy’s biggest group split ever and they averaged around 14.5 div/hr. he did a whole solo series going through a bunch of strats and matched it a couple of times without magic find gear, AND ignoring all loot that came from the actual league mechanic itself.

  • @imsa15463
    @imsa15463 Месяц назад +1

    I'm new to the game can you explain the difference between tile based and map based loot strategy?

    • @aliasKalessin
      @aliasKalessin Месяц назад +3

      if a mechanic shows you a loot symbol over a chest or monsters head, its tile based. It's called thise way because the symbol hovering over the monster is called a tile. Floor based strategies used to be those, that make unmodified monsters drop generic loot in high quantities with IIR/IIQ gear equipped. Floor based loot strategies are mostly discontinued because the stat IIQ (increased item quantity) has been removed from 99% of the former sources.

  • @totallynottrademarked5279
    @totallynottrademarked5279 Месяц назад +4

    Moral of the story, only play Sanctum. All the nerfs to currency drop rates to drain life out of group and MF they have made the base game feel like absolute shit. I want them to revert the scarab changes and make things below top tier actually worth something again. So dumb deafening essences are half the price that Shrieking used to be worth.

    • @oza_lup
      @oza_lup Месяц назад +1

      Sunctum is so boring.

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 Месяц назад

    I'm poor and had terrible luck but I have like 8 divs in harvest juice in my stash.
    Why don't I sell? THE PRICE IS GONNA GO UP! HODL!

  • @wilwaycoholland4337
    @wilwaycoholland4337 Месяц назад

    Printing with boats and essences brrrrrrrrr

  • @bruvkek4629
    @bruvkek4629 Месяц назад

    8 mod legion was really decent for me too. I feel like scarab nodes are useless for t16 mapping now tho. And if not using scarabs better to just get +20 points.

    • @kylebusc3624
      @kylebusc3624 Месяц назад

      Interesting, I had the opposite opinion thinking scarab nodes are great this league since there are so many expensive scarabs

  • @D4z3D
    @D4z3D Месяц назад

    I stuck with the good ol' expedition and logbooks. Typical slog, but Tujen did hook me up with some divs and the usual bubblegum. Rog came put clutch and hooked me with some profitable crafts. But god damn, alch and go feels soooo fkn bad. I now just look at maps as a gold generator, and it feels so shit. GGG needa do something seriously. Everything else about the league feels great, but wtf did they do to the loot!!

  • @sharethepaingaming6970
    @sharethepaingaming6970 Месяц назад

    I think there is a 6 link incubator as well right? Might be worth adding to the pool.

  • @Unbaked89
    @Unbaked89 Месяц назад

    My strat because I'm always slower than everyone else is doing Blight. Golden oils always sell.

    • @totallynottrademarked5279
      @totallynottrademarked5279 Месяц назад

      Gl getting them. Atlas completion 105/110 and 50 blight maps later, I have one.

    • @davidmaltais2912
      @davidmaltais2912 Месяц назад

      ​@@totallynottrademarked5279.... It's like 1/4 maps you are clearly not doing high enough tier

  • @adamn.1294
    @adamn.1294 Месяц назад

    Hey Sub, and anyone else who can help. I just got this ring from a Reflecting Mist and I feel like I need to make a character around it:
    Two-Stone Ring
    --------
    +16% to Fire and Lightning Resistances (implicit)
    --------
    Adds 18 to 29 Physical Damage to Attacks
    16% reduced Fire Damage
    -276 to Evasion Rating
    +101% to Fire Resistance
    Gain 9 Life per Enemy Killed
    --------
    Mirrored
    I've done about 30 minutes of research. Never made my own build before, though I've always wanted to. I have about 1k hours in the game.
    So do I go Chieftain for the Tasilio ascendancy passive (modifiers to fire resistance apply to cold and lightning at 50% value) and then the Fire Mastery mastery (Regenerate 1 Life per second for each 1% Uncapped Fire Resistance) and build around regen? Would armor stacking with The Formless Flame be a good route? It looks like people who go down that path use two replica dreamfeathers and use Smite as their main skill.
    Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад

      Hate to break it to you but just 117% fire res on a ring isn't really build enabling. The life regen is nice but if that's your goal you're better off just life/ES stacking on an inquisitor and double dipping the regen stat.
      It's effectively a single stat item and that stat alone really isn't anything to build around. Even if the regen were doubled I wouldn't find it overly interesting.

    • @adamn.1294
      @adamn.1294 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem Thanks for the response! I agree that it's not at the "build-enabling" level, but the thought was that with Tasilio, the 117% fire res represents 58% cold and lightning as well, and it gives you a huge bonus for The Formless Flame which synergizes with the "1% increased attack damage per 450 armor" mod on replica dreamfeather.
      The ring also has doubled T1 added phys for that build, which uses smite, volatility, multistrike, etc.
      If anything it gives me something to tinker with and hopefully learn more about making builds.
      Thanks!

    • @adamn.1294
      @adamn.1294 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem Plugging it into those builds' POBs yielded around just an 8% damage increase, and the effect of armor at such high levels didn't actually increase max phys hit because the ring doesn't have life on it.

  • @doomzx8284
    @doomzx8284 Месяц назад

    Bro finished video around 7min, but had to yap a bit longer and repeat himself for that 8 minute breakpoint money mark xD

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +2

      I actually never do that. Poe videos monetize horribly. At most I'll make 10-20$ for this video so it's not even a consideration, this is just my format with a less formal thought/feeling summary at the end.

    • @doomzx8284
      @doomzx8284 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem Sorry if I'm wrong ofc

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад

      yeah it happens once in a while but i have plenty of 6-7 minutes to prove otherwise, it's just a coincidence. i wish poe YT actually made money! but sadly it really doesn't pay.

    • @doomzx8284
      @doomzx8284 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem Yeah money wise I guess it's just one of the ways to keep your people informed and bring more people to the stream so you can actually earn a living...Even if you did 8min videos for breakpoints I wouldn't mind, I like when good people make it, it was just genuinely funny to me how it looked, but I wouldn't mind either way :D

  • @ArmedAndHammered
    @ArmedAndHammered 6 дней назад

    3:07 HUH?!

  • @GrimChu69
    @GrimChu69 Месяц назад +3

    Nice that you could borrow some divs for getting you started at least!

  • @samgreen8582
    @samgreen8582 Месяц назад

    It ain't gonna work. They've nerfed it too. I'm doing it now

  • @conqueeftador4021
    @conqueeftador4021 Месяц назад

    Out of curiosity if you're going for the 150 divs quick on a 3 div budget how come you didnt opt for sanctum?
    Im still on the side of a newer player and haven't tried it yet. From my understanding its cheap to get going. Id like to try it out this league so just curious if there was a reason other than if you and stream finds it boring.

    • @WutherWave-qc3ud
      @WutherWave-qc3ud Месяц назад

      Could be second but I’m excited to learn sanctum but I haven’t started I’d probably be a month or two late 😢priorities.

  • @gtkingly8127
    @gtkingly8127 Месяц назад

    sub gets to feel like us for a couple days I got a veiled orb and 2 divine in my stash rn hopefully my stonks on the veiled will buy my 6 link

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares Месяц назад

    So already have a super endgame build… not really something you can get with out having a lot of currency to begin with. Of course you can’t get those build with normal RNG.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад

      Huh? I put the build together with the 3.5 divines I showed in the video and farmed 100d with it.

  • @socialwizard
    @socialwizard Месяц назад +1

    "Loot isn't feeling good right now."
    Meanwhile me, who dropped an Enlighten Support from a random Expedition mob: 👁️👄👁️

  • @varazir
    @varazir Месяц назад

    oh you are rich to my standards :( My budget the last 10 leagues has been ~3 div ( raw drop that is )
    I wish there was a strat for players that take 1- 2 weeks to get to red maps. Play 2 - 3 hours a day except weekends.

    • @McGirthius
      @McGirthius Месяц назад +1

      2-3 hrs a day is quite a lot of time to earn much more than that. You just have to learn ways to play more efficiently with the time you have. Obviously it’s easier said than done, but there is so much content out there to guide you along the way.
      Above all else, just make sure you’re having fun while playing

    • @varazir
      @varazir Месяц назад

      @@McGirthius fun is the part. Ya i may play more or less. I usually lose track of time 😔. I'm just getting into yellow maps(started on launch day).

  • @aceeder2
    @aceeder2 Месяц назад

    Hey, this is exactly what im doing right now!

  • @ATXAdventure
    @ATXAdventure Месяц назад +1

    As an American, pumping that oil in blight maps speaks to my soul.

  • @zenmeteor9474
    @zenmeteor9474 Месяц назад +1

    How to escape: Play SSF

    • @rotony1
      @rotony1 Месяц назад +1

      What's the point, then I will play a single player game.
      I don't understand this type of comments, for me and for a lot of people, the majority, probably 80%+ play trade, the fun thing about the game is the trade, without trade there no motivation for nothing.

    • @zenmeteor9474
      @zenmeteor9474 Месяц назад

      @@rotony1 well how about playing in a private server economy. Way more chill and not competitive af

    • @zenmeteor9474
      @zenmeteor9474 Месяц назад

      @@rotony1 and 2nd. I just love tilting people

  • @dragonfan36
    @dragonfan36 Месяц назад

    sell your armor tattoos on the auction house i will be needing 19 of them for my build im paying 3c ea

  • @samgreen8582
    @samgreen8582 Месяц назад +1

    Sanctum is a specific rogue like type thing and nobody barely anybody wants to make a certain build to try and not get hit.

  • @gregkrilov
    @gregkrilov Месяц назад

    Im at 0 divines from boats.. so jelous

  • @gcpa7539
    @gcpa7539 Месяц назад

    damn bro are you weight lifting? Looking buffed

  • @RickBomhof
    @RickBomhof Месяц назад

    where is the atlas tree?

  • @fruit_salad_enjoyer
    @fruit_salad_enjoyer Месяц назад

    DELVE AND HEIST ARE THE TRUTH

    • @oza_lup
      @oza_lup Месяц назад

      How delve is even profitable? I am in 300 depths and doesnt understand it. Feels like I spend like 5 days just doing nothing

    • @fruit_salad_enjoyer
      @fruit_salad_enjoyer Месяц назад

      @@oza_lup If you took 5 days to hit 300 depth then you are going slow. I am on track to hit 600 when i get home later.

  • @yungdrila0197
    @yungdrila0197 Месяц назад

    Subbby you know any good builds for essence ?

  • @g.waits4gainz205
    @g.waits4gainz205 29 дней назад

    cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers

  • @leecalus5964
    @leecalus5964 Месяц назад

    sorry may i know why legion is a good way to farm currency?
    What exactly you looking for if you farm legion?

    • @adalos1953
      @adalos1953 Месяц назад

      mostly the incubators that provide good rewards (e.g., currency and divination cards).

    • @vXFiddlerXv
      @vXFiddlerXv Месяц назад

      I've run Legion a few leagues ago and was in the same boat. Still not quite sure what to look for to be honest but I didn't make nothing from it. It would be cool if someone could break down how exactly your supposed to get 100's of Div from it in a short amount of time though. I find it hard to believe you are making it all from incubators unless your moving *ungodly* fast.

    • @adalos1953
      @adalos1953 Месяц назад +1

      @vXFiddlerXv i don't think anyone is making 100s of divs from legion in a short time. I think Snoo did a video this league of his first 100 legion farms and was pulling somewhere around 7d/ hour

    • @vXFiddlerXv
      @vXFiddlerXv Месяц назад

      @@adalos1953 I'll go check that out! It sounds a bit more in line with what I was experiencing.

  • @brianlarsen6242
    @brianlarsen6242 Месяц назад +1

    I’m always poor. My Sympathy for steamers feeling poor is not strong. But still love the content.

  • @nikonaumenko7041
    @nikonaumenko7041 Месяц назад

    If you are poor than what are me with my first div on day6 and its from leag mech...

  • @immanuelcalunod8518
    @immanuelcalunod8518 Месяц назад

    Subscribing because you are handsome.

  • @jo3kr111
    @jo3kr111 Месяц назад

    lol welcome to a newbie or casual Poe player !

  • @rinkzate
    @rinkzate Месяц назад

    Spoiler: it's sanctum

  • @Lynsis92
    @Lynsis92 Месяц назад

    has more currency than all my leagues combined, considers it poverty

  • @neogramps
    @neogramps Месяц назад

    Morning

  • @luckyluksa
    @luckyluksa Месяц назад

    How did you put this build together and still have 3 divines and 100c? Cant explain that!

  • @lenelie3051
    @lenelie3051 Месяц назад

    Sorry for your struggle this league boss, I'm ssf and doing pretty well, but really struggling to get ANY fractures this league.
    Any suggestions for SSF to find fracs this league?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah! we farmed a ton of fractures actually early on. You want to use the the Horned Scarab of Awakening with the Imbued Anarchy craft on the map so Rogue Exiles drop fractures 20% of the time. Combo that with as much Anarchy stuff as you can and hundreds of fractures drop per map.
      Might be tough to get that scarab in SSF but if you get one make sure you have an Anarchy tree ready to go for it!

    • @Beeflup168
      @Beeflup168 Месяц назад +1

      Hmm, during my teams test with fractured farming with imbued we were maybe getting 1 fractured drop explosion per 2 maps. The 20% was definitely not working for us 😂. I think we ran close to 8 maps with the strat? Might just be super unlucky but the drops are feeling definitely feeling really weird for me

    • @lenelie3051
      @lenelie3051 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem think its better to go 4x4extra rogue scarabs or 2x4extra rogues plus the pairs and giant scarabs? I only got one awaking...lol. Thanks btw!

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад

      You definitely were missing something, we had 4+ explosions per map. We each had full inventories of good fractures every single map.

    • @Beeflup168
      @Beeflup168 Месяц назад

      @@subtractem maybe, we ran the same atlas tree as 3.24 fractured rogue farming with every rogue and ritual point on the atlas and 1x imbued, 3x anarchy, 1x giga we just couldn’t get anything. Ruckus never activated for us either haha.

  • @wiramonol5266
    @wiramonol5266 Месяц назад

    The league you choose to do group play is the worst league to do group play. Bad luck.

  • @mightaziez
    @mightaziez Месяц назад

    This game will make you poor IRL seriously, having a full time job and have to learn about new mechanic is very tiring, either you put tons of hours for profit to put on your build you always get fucked, seeing streamer and exploiter playing this all day just makes you feel bad. If you don't stream the game, what did you do with your life? your actual life

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад +1

      I’ve been playing PoE off & on since Open Beta. While it is true that *GGG does not respect your time* (they ALWAYS nerf builds) or wrists (PoE gave me Carpal Tunnel) there ARE some counterpoints:
      1. *Play standard.* Core mechanics are stable and well understood at this point.

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад +1

      2. Git gud - follow a build guide EXACTLY until you grok the skill & atlas tree.

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад +1

      3. Knowledge & Execution is 99% of the game. _How do you think streamers are able to get a mage blood by DAY 2 of every new league??_
      While Betrayal is still a complete clüsterfück take time to LEARN the game mechanics, pick a good league starter build, and *stop wasting time* picking up sh!t that isn’t valuable.

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад +2

      4. *STOP comparing yourself* to no life streamers. They are living rent free in your head.

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад +1

      5. *Enjoy the journey* instead of obsessing over the destination.

  • @Jfchild
    @Jfchild Месяц назад +2

    I’m glad loots hard to get. Makes the game more fun.

  • @StefanCatalin101
    @StefanCatalin101 Месяц назад

    This league is the worst

  • @XX-vs6lt
    @XX-vs6lt Месяц назад +1

    I escaped ingame poverty by not playing the league.
    I dont like the current state of a game so i just decided to not participate and tbh, im not sad i dont have divines anymore. Works 100perc

  • @SeekNeo
    @SeekNeo Месяц назад

    I find it hard to believe that group play is not profitable, what about Empy? He always does group play and they print mirrors

    • @dvanyukov
      @dvanyukov Месяц назад +6

      He abandoned the group play as well
      ruclips.net/video/vXC9aMrQjwc/видео.html

    • @Sicknificant1
      @Sicknificant1 Месяц назад +5

      Subtractem is saying this because he tested group play (THIS LEAGUE, prior leagues are not relevant to his current stance on this) with Empy.

  • @ImAzraa
    @ImAzraa Месяц назад +4

    What the actual fk dude
    This feels so detached from reality. Im sure i'm speaking for like half the playerbase here, perhaps more, but, at the end you said "trying to get 100div in 4 days" ... I havent even seen 100d at the same time, and seems to me thats a reasonable, even low expectation.
    Is this sht for real? who is even getting that far? like the top 5% of players?
    Holy shit, I just cant follow this content, makes no sense to me :s
    And you feel frustrated cause you had a scuffed league start? Are all my leagues scuffed then? shit.

    • @fofolacosa123
      @fofolacosa123 Месяц назад +1

      just need to get better at making money, subs been playing from beta or some shi

    • @Sicknificant1
      @Sicknificant1 Месяц назад +1

      Well you gotta learn to walk before you can run, so yea this video prob isn't for you.

    • @alexw.2988
      @alexw.2988 Месяц назад

      Do you set up a dedicated farm?

    • @kylebusc3624
      @kylebusc3624 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@alexw.2988 Na definitely not if a basic legion strat is blowing this guys mind

    • @throwaway450
      @throwaway450 Месяц назад

      Bro it's not hard lmao. It just takes time and experience.

  • @EricBohner
    @EricBohner Месяц назад +1

    1 mirror shard, 3 Devine's and 100 Chaos is poor? You are like the couple that makes 100,000.00 a year complaining about how broke they are. Lol.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +2

      On day 5 of a league having 23 divines as a full time content creator is very bad.
      For my own personal standards I usually aim to have about 100 divines by this point. This is easily achievable doing not much more than just expedition and smart market trading.
      For a casual player 23 divines would be a nice one week achievement. For me it's very bad. It's all relative to the player and time invested.

    • @aminhalilovic3499
      @aminhalilovic3499 Месяц назад

      I made 80-90 divines just doing harvest and blue mapping in week one. And this is my third league ever and my last league was ancestral league. This man is kinda broke if he made ~25% of what I made and his hands hurt. Especially if he had to coordinate with others to play all this time. Now I have been playing full time as well, but I’ve been taking long breaks as well. Nothing hurts

  • @damonblack1495
    @damonblack1495 Месяц назад

    Serves you right starting group play. Pfft. I remember when this used to be a casual dads poe channel.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  Месяц назад +2

      A true casual dad wouldn't gloat at the misfortune of others

  • @benjamincl2409
    @benjamincl2409 Месяц назад +2

    People crying on reddit about the loot are the dad gamer with no gaming time.

    • @MrDrNii
      @MrDrNii Месяц назад +2

      Generally if no lifers have no loot 1 hr per week andy wont have any either😊

    • @Bobington11
      @Bobington11 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MrDrNii100% and the slower people just haven't realized it yet. Takes a bit for the new league shine to wear off

    • @benjamincl2409
      @benjamincl2409 Месяц назад

      @@MrDrNii i have alot of loot

    • @MrDrNii
      @MrDrNii Месяц назад

      @@benjamincl2409 me too, from loot tile mechanics but not from the ground unfortunately, it gets boring

  • @watchingkek
    @watchingkek Месяц назад

    get out the credit card

    • @MichaelPohoreski
      @MichaelPohoreski Месяц назад

      Because getting banned for RMT is SO worth the risk. /s
      If you need a credit card to enjoy a game maybe you are playing the wrong game?