Motorcycle Clutch Assembly | Check and Replace | HONDA INNOVA GARAGE | ANF125 | WAVE | CUB| 2010
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- How to check and replace a Motorcycle Clutch Assembly?
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PLATE, CLUTCH PRESSURE 22350-KPH-900
DISK, CLUTCH FRICTION 22201-KPH-900
PLATE, CLUTCH 220321-KE8-000
CENTER, CLUTCH 22121-KPH-900
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BOLT SPECIAL FLANGE, 6X20. 90050-KPH-900
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the best channel for honda innova service well done bro
cool music. thanks for all!
I bring my old clutch friction plate at the machine shop, i ask them to measure, and they said 2.7 mm, wow i'm happy that my clutch friction plate is still new. Thank you Innova for this video. Now i know that the first we should replace is the primary clutch shoe and clutch bell. The mc mechanics dont measure the secondary clutch, they just say you need to replace both primary and secondary clutch.
Thanks for sharing your information. When I disassembly and then returned the plates to place, I did not makes the angular tilt between the plates, so it took them a while to back to their place, till then, there were slight slips at the clutch, which caused unnecessary erosion. So whoever disassembles and does not replace, will put the discs back one below the other, at exactly the same angle they gone out, and at the same place where they was in the basket.
Very good information.
Пробег 40000 км а все ещё живое, ни один советский мопед до такого пробега не дожил ни за что. Я не удивляюсь, что в СССР делали плохую технику, едет да и хрен с ней.
40000км и сцепление как новое. Двигатель Куба должен также выдерживать 70000 км, и даже больше. В моем случае подшипники были разрушены не из-за неправильного или чрезмерного использования, а из-за врожденного дефекта оригинальной отливки крышки картера. Другими словами, даже двигатели, произведенные в Японии, или с японскими знаниями, могут представлять серьезные проблемы с надежностью. Я испытываю глубокую привязанность к советским инженерам (CCCP), великой нации и великим инженерам [Перевод в Google].
My INNOVA Motorcycling вы очень сильно поменяете своё мнение, когда покатаетесь на советском мопеде 50 cc. Он маломощный и в настоящее время всей советской технике место только в музее. А вот японские мопеды с большими пробегами до сих пор ездят по России. Пользуются очень большим спросом из-за своей надежности.
Мой друг, это обычно компромисс между качеством и ценой. В мире существует спрос на дешевые бренды, которые предлагают хорошее соотношение цены и качества. Местный бренд, о котором вы говорите, значительно дешевле, чем японский бренд? Не вдаваясь в подробности, которые я не знаю, я бы сказал, что мотоцикл, который обрабатывается должным образом, не страдает от надежных проблем. Драматическая неисправность обнаружена в моем отличном японском двигателе. Есть ли здесь проблема надежности? В жизни все относительно.
My INNOVA Motorcycling к сожалению оригинальных советских запчастей страна уже не производит, в России полностью захватил китайский неоригинальных запчастей. Поэтому все так плохо.
@@Tylskiu_pranik Но даже в моем мотоцикле я иногда использую не оригинальные детали, это старый мотоцикл, в чем проблема? Ну, я не ожидаю, что разговор с вами решит все мировые проблемы. Я надеюсь, что вы примете более позитивный подход, по крайней мере, улыбка находится под вашим контролем.
Very good job !!
No1 !
Wow!Awesome video!!!
Thank you very much!!!
whats the thickness of a fresh clutch fiber lining bro?
@@arjaytv1966
Hello sir.
2.7mm
At time line 1:07
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling thanks my motorcycle is honda wave dash do you think its the same thickness? because i bought a aftermarket 1 but the thickness is 3.0mm haha
@@arjaytv1966
To the best of my knowledge and understanding, in those years Honda created the same Cub model under two different names, the Wave was marketed in the East, and the Innova was marketed in the West, and the changes between the two models were very minor. To the best of my knowledge the two engines was the exact same engine model.
2.7mm is the thickness I measured on the used pads, and so is the thickness of the new original pads made by Honda. 2.7mm This is also the maximum thickness mentioned in the Haynes manual.
First
YES
Is it possible to disassemble the engine without damaging the crankshaft bearings? Do I have to replace crankshaft bearing every time I split the crankcase?
Yes, the crankcase can be split without causing damage to the crankshaft bearings, this is possible. But I'm not sure it is wise to leave the old bearings and not replace because the work involved in this opening is the major part of the financial expenses in that repair job, so if everything is already open then it is common to replace the bearings, even if you don't suspect damage. And there are cases where there is a mandatory to replace bearings, sometimes there is a mandatory to replace the crankshaft as well.
I already replaced the crankshaft bearings last March, I used the motorcycle about 2000km. Im planning to change all the bearings aside from the crankcase bearing. I really need some advice from you, I see how you work hard and making things precise.
It is impossible to commit to help over the Internet, because I don't always have the time to write detailed answer, because the media is very limited (there is a proverb that says, "You do not learn swimming in correspondence"), because I am not always with an open computer (I can be absent for many weeks), and also because I do not see the problem in my eyes. After all, even if I answer, I share from my experience, and the decisions you make are at your own risk, so you must cross-check my information and recheck it yourself. Haynes book 4926 is a good source of information, and even there could sometime has a mistakes. Under these restrictions you will feel free to ask me Q, and I will try to reply to you. thank you very much.
Thank you so much 😊
Hai at 0:42...does the washer important?? I think I lost it when I’m cleaning the engine...then are the marking at 2:48 is it really important to align it?and at 3:44 you mentioned the method failed...why?
Hi. The Washer 0:50
90403-KPH-900
IS Extremely important. The washer must return to its place and has a tendency to move out of place during installation, so that issue requires a lot of attention during the reassembly.
The mark 2:48
is also Very Important for proper installation. A bad installation will lead to clutch major malfunction or cause any other great damage.
The installation failed 3:44 because of the two issues you asked about.
My INNOVA Motorcycling so there is 1 washer then the bush inserted right?
@@muhammadizamudinaminudin4758 No, there are many other parts such as GUIDE AND COLLAR...
If you think you have trouble please go to a qualified mechanic, I am very limited with the help I can give you online (I can't). Please contact a qualified mechanic.
My INNOVA Motorcycling thanks for the ingo
Info
At 4:18 what happen if that teeth of the primary is not align to the clutch??
At 4:15 you see two gears. One (thick) is responsible for taking the load. The second (thin), when his spring in tension, it is act as ant-backlash gear mechanism. It's an anti-free-play mechanism. I'm guessing the spring taking tention to prevent vibrations and clicks in the transmission. If Honda engineers was decided that such a mechanism is needed, the transmission should not be assembled in a different way. Improper assembly can lead to property and health damage (car accident !!), and even death.
The alignment mark is designed to ensure a fair amount of spring tension, not too loose, and not too tight.
I just have a question..on what position does the clutch plate facing.
Sharp edge facing the clutch basket? Or
Round edge facing the basket?
Some mechnics in my area argue on this matter.they say as long as the're facing tge same ditection no matter what side it wont have a problem.same says if the round edge facing you it make the clutch fiber slips.pls enlighten me on this..cuz i replace may clutch fibers,clutch outer comp.,wieghts and springs but still it feels like its sleeping.i wonder i need to replace the clutch plate too with new ones or theyre just facing the wrong way
In my opinion the round side does not matter (the cutting edge of part No:22321-KGH-600 is round because of its manufacturing process). The discs with the pads(22201-KPH-700) are double-sided, so always both sides of the friction disc touch the pads. Higher friction is created when we changing the material of the pads to one with higher friction, or when we installing stronger springs. The round disc has no effect on friction. Honda Innova has only 3 metal discs and all the three are in a sandwich between pads. For the good of uniformity only, for mechanical "beauty", I would choose a direction and assemble the three of them in the same direction.
Usually the recommendation would be to replace all the discs as a set, 3 smooth discs and 4 friction discs with the pads. Otherwise a lack of uniformity between the new pads and the old discs leads to slipping, and it takes several hundred kilometers until everything is aligned to his place.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcyclingthnaks for the reply. i didnt replace the 3 steel clutch plates and the rest is new and genuine parts too.check the compression if it still in recommended psi and its fine,replace ignition coils and spark plug for new ones.maybe thats the reason its still slips and it exceed its service limit.a common friend recommend me a mechanic,he's a former honda mechanic and he told me that it is posible thats the cause of slipping and that i should replace the plates and friction/fibers as a set.he recommend me to use faito clutch fibers (racing clutch friction from japan) for much more optimum performance since im always have a back rider.and it has a good brand reputation here in my country,maybe i will try that..anyway thanks for the info sir
@@cikyablyat1913
If you do not replace clutch discs as a set, the clutch slips until it adapts to the old parts. This is normal, and the way to avoid it is to replace everything as a set.
Clarified: Loss of compression pressure is not related to clutch slip, it is related to power loss in general. Neither the coils nor the plug cause the clutch to slip, only cause a loss of power.
Clutch pads with higher friction allow higher torque to be transmitted, but Honda Innova does not have high torque, unless special improvements are made in the engine, etc. So, for example: In a racing kit you will find clutch pads with higher friction material.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling and thank you for always answering may query brother..my other friends told my b4 that i should sell my bike and get a new one,buti love this bike,easy to maintane and still doing his job of getting me from any other places safe.and besides the first owner of this bike is my sister and she gave me this as my first
bike.
So the plates were worn?
No, I measured the used friction discs and they have 2.7mm thick, which are as a new disk. The clutch pads are very thin, that's how it comes originally.
As you can see in the video, the other parts of the clutch, the plates, are not particularly worn.
I did the disassembly to replace the engine and gearbox bearings.
sir bakit kaya walang hatak kahit naka kambyo na at di gumagana kick starter ,xrm 125, kapapalit ko lining, ty
Sorry, I really couldn't figure out what you wrote, Google failed to translate your words into understandable Hebrew.
What is the purose of that gear 4:17?
The job of anti backlash gear is to prevent backlash. Less freedom is less vibration and therefore less noise, and it also helps the centrifugal clutch mechanism work smoother.
can you give me a link for the parts
To my knowledge, RUclips blocks third-party links. A free search on Google's search engine will take you to some of the top internet stores in the field, there you can choose the most convenient deal for you. You can check out my favorite list of shops here:
ruclips.net/video/XzElFhCkYD8/видео.html
Sir tanung lng po. Kakapalit qlng kasi NG clutch lining. Tsaka primary clutch. Nawala ang half clutch anu po problema?
I'm sorry, it's hard to answer you over the internet. As a matter of principle accelerated wear of the pads is when the motorcycle is loaded with heavy weight, or at strong opening accelerations. But there could be other reasons. Only a mechanic who sees the problem closely can give an accurate opinion of your problem.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling ty po.
Have some vietnamese parts
Well, yes, an Ebay seller sold me a set of four clutch pads, at a really good price. Not INNOVA parts, but an exactly compatible Honda original parts, in the same dimensions for the Innova too. In the meantime I saw that there was no need to replace them and I stayed with the used pads.
When the clutch do "grrr"
When it is cold
To idle speed
Ans stops when you acellerate
And when it is warm
What is the problem?
I had a similar problem when the bike was new. When the engine is cold, with the rotation of the throttle, when the centrifugal clutch should engage gradually, then vibrations would appear. At some point it stopped to vibrates. I don't know what made the vibrates to disappear. maybe that?
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And maybe the fact that the bell has worn down and adjusted itself to the pads?
I don't now.
It would only happen when the engine was cold
how to adjust primary clutch sub gear
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