My Blunt & Honest Take on Escape From Tarkov
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2023
- DeadlySlob gives his blunt and honest thoughts on the current state of Escape From Tarkov as well as suggesting changes for the future that could improve the overall experience of the game.
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The wait time for me is crazy. That’s what ruins it for me. To wait 7 mins for a match to get head eyes right out the gate man that just does it for me. Great video as always.
playing the cycle for the moment shown how much different gameplay loop is with instant match drop ins - you gaming not wasting time waiting.
This !
Putting on a kit for few mins, preparing guns and ammo, queue in, get head eyes'd by a rat 10/10 tarky experience
idk how many times me and a group of friends have wasted 15 mins of our life trying to queue into interchange and getting timed out. only for us to get a raid within 2 mins the next attempt.
@@joshmiller9783 3 minute wait just to play against radar users 10/10
I think you hit the nail on the head Deadly. Because of life in general I only get to play a handful of days in a month. Early wipe is a blast because of how the gunfights are drawn out and how they feel. But after just a few weeks after wipe the time to kill seems almost nonexistent. Leaving casuals like me in the dust. I only play the first week or two of wipe and then move onto another game until the next wipe happens.
Exactly, the game requires you to constantly be playing to keep up. Add to that the real-time things like insurance and bitcoin farm and it just demands you keep coming back to it lest you just get completely outmatched by those that play several hours a day.
I´m a casual too, I understand your point, but... More time invested equals better gear, that´s the way not only in Tarkov. I could live with that. For me Tarkov is fine for three or four months after a wipe. After that? What´s the point of investing my scarce time if BSG is (possibly) wiping in another 6 or 8 weeks? Why should I grind horribly difficult tasks such as Tarkov Shooter Pt. 8? Which brings me to another point: BSG is telling us the game is a Beta (which is a joke, it´s in Alpha, since Beta would mean that all features are already in the game, which is not the case, see vaulting, see whole classes of weapons and so on...) Anyway, the game is in public testing and BSG is relying on the community to fix bugs and get input for improvements. As it is, BSG is literally banning a lot of players from testing the Lightkeeper questline, since they require a ridiculous amount of hard quests which most casuals can´t do within a wipe. Shouldn´t they seek to have ALL of their game tested by as many people as possible? Which leads me to yet another point: if Tarkov should be finally released someday: how are BSG´s plans for some kind of endgame? I mean at the moment wiping every 6 months and get your progress set back to 0 is...okay. But you can´t do that in a final release without killing the game after you done that two or three times. So, what´s the plan here?
@@sozialistischespatientenko3797 more playtime equals better gear is true for a lot of games indeed, however for very few does it create such an imbalance as it does in tarkov. We're not just talking about a reddot instead of iron sights, or a new fancy gun. We're talking armor that makes most ammo types useless, ammo types that make armor useless, attachements that make guns that kick like mules into laser beams, becoming unaffected by weight of armor and guns, the ability to sprint around for significantly longer periods of time at much higher speeds while also being able hear a mouse fart across the map, etc.
It's just a cummulation of many things and the entire game needs a proper rebalance after years of tiny individual patches upon patches upon patches.
@@TheBonkening You´re right, if someone is dedicating his whole life to Tarkov he has a lot of advantages. So what?
I´ve got a real life instead. But I would not want to nerf any of the soft skills you´ve mentioned or to make the best possible ammo available to everyone. As I see it, BSG should perhaps think about implementing some sort of matchmaking, to avoid having 18hrs-per-day-streamers wiping whole servers filled with low-level players. But not sure if that would be even possible, given the number of players, which seems to be quite low at the moment. What is more annoying, again in my opinion, is making parts required to improve your hideout that scarce (or forcing players to try their luck at Labs...) that a large part of the community is essentially being blocked from getting Intel to level 3 or to get the solar farm. Everyone should at least have a fair chance to get the hideout fully improved.
It is what it is, brother. Tarkov has strong RPG elements that people seem to forge about. Of course you will be at a disadvantage vs people who play Tarkov 8+ hours a day... It's about understanding your place and trying to be okay with it, I feel like. You said it yourself: you're a casual. There is a place for you in Tarkov, but it is the place of the casual player. The one that struggles to max traders, the one that has an average of 800K to 2M in his stash through wipe. The one that is constantly working through tasks throughout the wipe instead of focusing on PVP. It simply is what it is. Does that mean the game should be... easier?
A prestige system would be cool. Keep your cosmetics, maybe a step up on traders ie. new barters unlocked? Rather than starting over in your hideout you have to repair it because you “escaped” and stations went neglected.
I like something similar done by Jordy Lakiere, the single dev behind We Who Are About To Die. In that game you play as a gladiator with permadeath. But you can invest your current character's fame & money (and one heirloom piece of equipment) into the next future character for when your current one either dies or succeeds his goal in the arena and is retired. That way, when you start a new character it's not from square 1 but with certain benefits from the previous character to give you that initial leg up.
Additionally if your previous character succeeded his goal, based on his background your future characters will receive certain bonuses.
Could work well for EfT too with something similar. Depending on which questlines & achievements, hideout-upgrades & stashed items available, you can at certain points "retire" the PMC by having them escape and be permanently gone leaving some bonuses behind for the next PMC. The more you do and invest in your current PMC, the more the next one will have to build on.
just dont make me do the quests 132th times otherwise im gonna shoot myself in the brain
me never prestiging even once
@@MartinTraXAA game is so good. If only half of the devs out there could make a game as fun as one made by a single person
removed the level system idc what level i am if can afford gear i buy it
Cheater are my 100% first problem. After the twitch events in 2019 when the playerbase increased by 10x and more. It was suddenly as if i was unable to play anymore after 2 successful years in Tarkov.
I felt the exact same, I quit shortly after.
Sounds like a you problem I've been playing since 2018 it has its ups and downs but was never nearly as bad as COD or some other games I tried where people are blatantly rage hacking anytime I see someone complaining about cheaters in tarkov I just know they're bad or they only play tarkov
@@rodiculous9464 With that sort of dismissive attitude I hope you enjoy your dying game while it lasts.
Tarkov isnt the only FPS out there my man, see you in another game.
@@rodiculous9464 Ah the typical "skill issue" comment. I hope you enjoy your "skill based" game with the majority of them being hackers. I mean dude, they hacked BSG's launcher and then had the website for there cheating software on a news banner. If you are actually still defending BSG after all the recent news that came out you are and I really hate using this term but a big fucking clown.
@@rodiculous9464 cope harder kiddo. The game is riddled with cheaters and people that belive BSG really give a shit are high
I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. Ever since I got good at Tarkov, I've thought that everyone should have the same running speed and same endurance. Your kits and weight should matter far more than how much time you put into the game to level up your skills. Not only is it completely unbalanced how fast and strong people can get, but it just isn't fun to fight against. Like you said, you lose so much of the early wipe fun as the wipe progresses because it becomes a different game when people have high level skills and gear. I hope in at least arena, everyone has the same strength and endurance.
Character skills dont belong in an FPS, it just rewards grinding the hours to lvl your characters skills instead of relying on your own innate skills as a player.
@@TwiggehTV Exactly!
@@TwiggehTV And it *always* degenerates into exploits and gimmicky grinds. PMCs running around with 50kgs of ammunition up their keister while chucking nades and eating mayonnaise in order to powerlevel their PMC into a Marvel character.
That's gotta be the funniest sentence I've read in a long while. Just imagined a guy, roided out of his mind, guzzling a jar of Helman's as he naruto runs around
@@hombreg1 Frankly, can you really even call yourself an operator if you haven't chugged down a jar of Helman's mid-combat?
Your analysis is pretty spot on!
For me the game cycle goes like this:
0-~10 No fun because no guns, no meds, no armor, even someone able to run an automatic weapon will pawn you. Also limited tasks, with map funneling. You have a streak of bad games, you have to run really crap gear, making you even less effective. Overall pretty brutal.
10-30 Then you start getting some gear and some loadout variety and the game starts being fun, and that part lasts a while. Lots of tasks to accomplish, on different maps, you don't have X key, you can just focus on some other task.
After a good chunck of people start running high level gear and start unlocking high level skills, it stops being fun again. It's 2 wipes now, that I quit soon after lvl 30.
This is not even going into the cheater issue, the very real broken sound issue (that was one of the main reasons I stopped playing this patch), or the whole flea market vs sold out traders discussion.
What annoys me in the lvl 10-30 period is there are so many possibilities to make great budget kits or try a different meta but the quests funnel you into using the same gear and weapons each wipe. For example each Punisher task makes you either wear shitty gear or use a certain weapon.
What would make me back on the game to do each wipe would be if they change for a different quest tree for each wipe (or modify the order idk) to not have the exact same start each single wipe (this is barely the same old routine since ~6 years now)
Also would be nice if there were BEAR and PMC questlines as well as minor variations. So for example on customs prapors watch could be in any of the fuel trucks instead of always the same one. The folder in the traincart could have multiple spawns inside the cart. Etc etc. This would make it so that you actually have to look for stuff instead of going through the motions. It also makes is less predictable for other players to know what you're up to.
Alot of the quests could have variations for the requirements and when you unlock it or accept it it rolls for which one it gives you making it slightly harder to pre-gather all the items, quest specific items should have multiple potential locations in a RAID, they should re-balance the quest rewards AND say let you pick which rewards or give you a set of rewards + let you pick 1 specific item from a pool to allow some player choice OR you can accept the standard rewards or pick just 1 or 2 specific better items etc.
Nice vid, Deadly - I agree with most of what you have to say here. Especially the prestige system - excellent idea. On skills though, I think that Perception is actually more in need of a rework than Strength and Endurance. Running a little further and a little faster is NOTHING compared to being able to hear things that are further away. I usually struggle more at the beginning of wipe when I feel like my hearing distance is 10 feet.
The problem w tarkov isn't that you cnt escape it's that if you could they would make it so time consuming and tedious that nobody would do it.
eeh yeah i agree. same way they made the most exciting addition to the game (lightkeeper) only accessible to people who hard grind the game.
that is *literally* what Nikita's vision for the game has always been; a pvp game so difficult that VERY few people would be able to actually succeed in it.
@@riloegaminga game build for failure.
Nah, there are a ton of people who have multiple accounts or reset their accounts this late into wipe. It's a good idea, I'd do it.
@@lucaguida4286 Not every game has to be for everyone. That's a fact I feel very few are willing to consider
I think the truth in all this is far simpler than anyone is willing to admit: This game has been out for years and its core experience has stayed relatively the same, and it's become stale. It's neither the developers' nor the players' fault for this, it is just what happens when an Early Access game is available for years before its release. The only changes the developers can make are incremental, as normal game development time is quite long and arduous. This means that the experience of the game throughout the years is going to be pretty much one-note. No matter how well it plays that note, human beings are naturally inclined to want to experience new things and the same game over and over again with some minor and even major tweaks will not suffice forever.
It happened with DayZ Standalone, a once prominent game on Deadly's channel. It was a game set out to be a very specific experience and Sean would fully agree with me that this experience would (and did) get a bit old. I remember how fun the UN Server was and how willing people were to roleplay and engage socially, but that was despite the game not because of the game (And also in spite of ban-happy mods in my case). Eventually that experience became tired and faded, and the playerbase was in the triple digits. It bounced back to relatively mediocre success but many OG players got tired out. It's happened to all long-term Early Access/Alpha/Beta games.
Long gone are the times of day 1 full release games that deliver on 100% of the experience and assurances. The new world is a sea of endless half-baked AAA games rushed to get early sales figures to look good on the publisher's quarterly reports, early access games that are hardly more than a good concept for a game and simply a disappointment in the product you get, AAA games turned free-to-play in favor of cosmetic micro-transactions and gambling to be the only way to avoid the slog they compensate the game progression to be, and an occasional high quality game that gets overplayed and remade with thousands of derivative 3rd party attempts to recapture said lightning in the bottle.
Early access for 8 years is where you should take a step back and realize they aren’t planning on “finishing” it 😭😂
Awesome and very well said! I’ve never even made it past level 35 and mid to late wipe turns into a rat fest of avoiding players and sneaking around trying to get the drop on someone cause I don’t stand a chance if their gun is pointed at me. It bums me out to basically just become a gear piñata so I always run lower gear.
same here
sounds like advanced gear fear.. lol
@Ash More like pragmatism lol. If you're under-leveled you can ruin your eco by flea marketing meta parts. Which is necessary to keep up considering all the good gear is locked behind max trader level.
The casual player meta is ratlike pretty much by necessity. Unless you are abnormally good at FPS games.
A prestige system would be awesome and definitely work for keeping mid to early game fights for as long as possible love that idea
Deadly with the amazing content as usual. please deadly give us more stuff like this. the worst part of the video was it ending!
Honestly.. the biggest issue for me is the cheaters.
I have never, EVER cared about cheaters in any game I've ever played but ever since g0at put out the video I just gave up.
I don't know why people seem to think that what BSG did in response somehow fixes the issue..
They had tweeted plenty of times in the past that Battleeye banned "X" amount of cheaters.. people still cheat.
Now I can tell of someone I reported got banned? Great! What does that exactly do to combat cheating?
How does that stop people from actually cheating? What does that do to combat the actual underlying issue?
I played 1 raid after that video came out and immediately could not play it the way I used to.
Even IF less than 60% (the value g0at gave) of the player base are cheating it just changed how I feel and think about other players in general.
In the past, I would easily just chalk up sketchy deaths to the game's netcode and bugs.. but not I just can't make those excuses anymore.
I seriously don't know what BSG would need to do to change this.. but they need to do SOMETHING.
Just play Single Player Tarkov. You can mod the game however you want, and PMC’s act like rogues/raiders, so they can absolutely blast you to death and you can still fight them, plus no wipe and other mods to change things up. Quite good
I really like you're analysis in this phase of the game. i feel the same about lightkeeper missions, and i look forward to playing tarkov with storyline in this way. I love the way you share you're perspective on the challenges this game has, with honest opinion and feedback. Thank you Deadlyslob, i appreciate you're videos
I went from loving this game to absolutly hating it, my friends begged me to play again so i obliged and just didnt care about anything at all and started having more fun than ever, the past month or so ive mainly just been scav runnin on reserve and have killed more pmc's than i do on my pmc. I think a huge part of enjoying the game is just not caring in the sleightest
Regarding strength and endurance - I've been saying it for a long time, in the lowest levels your character feels way too weak and in the highest levels they feel way too powerful. They should retain the same level 1-50 skill range and the time it takes to level it up, but the actual values in terms of weight being able to carry, running speed, stamina drain etc etc etc should be adjusted to sit within the current levels 20-30. The extremely sluggish and weak early levels will be gone and the coked out superhuman levels as well, while still retaining a somewhat realistic progression.
I could live with that.
I'm a very overweight 20-a-day smoker, I shouldn't be able to sprint further carrying more IRL than what's supposed to be a trained military operative.
Diminishing returns after x amount of xp gained per y time, and slower progression overall would be nice.
I think this would bring nolifers and casuals closer together and prolong the early wipe.
Sounds like something straight out of a fucking mobile game. What the fuck.
Anyone know what servers to select for highest chance of getting full lobbies? I play auto from Washington state and I barely find PMCs on lighthouse. Can't even do assessment.
Great thoughts in here. I miss your tarkov gameplay videos, its the reason ive been playing the last few weeks after a year or more out of the game. I've watched every video for the past 4 or 5 years so i cant go back and find new ones xD
They really need to add an incentive for people to reset their accounts for some bonus content (or some other things) and then remove the wipe system. Then people like me, who cant put 5 hours a day into this game, would be able to play. I just dont want to play when i know that after i finally get higher level traders (lvl 3 or 4) the wipe is almost there to take everything ive done away from me.
OMG, i havent watched to the end and you mentioned this exact point. Im so sorry
Eft is a 40 hour a week game anything less then that u rly suffer
@@killaclutch4208 Devil's advocate but not every game is meant to be E for everyone if you catch my drift. Its just hardcore in more ways than one. I don't play anymore though hehe
@@Kingofsouthlake then people can't cry when the game dies.
@@deezboyeed6764 trueee
DeadlySlob, I really appreciate your honest insights on Escape From Tarkov's current state. It's evident that you care about the game and its community. Your suggestion for a Prestige system sounds like a great way to incentivize players and extend the game's longevity. I'm also impressed with your dedication to unlocking the Light Keeper without cheesing it. Keep up the good work, and I'm excited to see what the future holds for EFT. Your content is always top-notch! #EscapeFromTarkov
Interesting point you bring up at the end about the mechanics of stims eating some of the profits of Chads in combination with strength nerfs... I am wondering whether the once planned(?) addictive property of meds (stims) would play also into the same balancing act - not only financially but also by messing with characters health. That said i haven't heard about this feature in a while. Maybe it's cut?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Nice vid!
My biggest issue with the game has been the gameplay loop. I always wanted a persistent open world like the old arma mods I use to play. in fact thats how i even found out about this game back in the day, was from my arma buds. I just have way too many raids that go like this-
You take a couple minutes gearing up, wait 15 minutes to load into customs. then find you spawned in the far back corner of customs, behind the trailer park.
You hear shots go off at big red, check it out and you find 4 dead bodys.
You run to dorms to try to ketch who ever survived that fight at big red, only to find all the doors open, and the car extract has been taken.
You then see ZB-013 is activated, so you sprint over to try to get some action.
You get there, find a dead Reshala, dead guards and 3 more dead PMC's... and god damn it, the ZB-013 door is unlocked and open so you know its been taken.
Well fuck, maybe theres like 1 more team left?
You sprint over to ZB-1011 and find that ones been open and taken too.
You do some quick math and realize every team is either dead or extracted.
You then think "maybe ill wait for some player scavs?"... naaaah, my ammo is worth $1200 a shot. Fuck I shoulda just ran some cheaper ammo.
You then just decide to extract so you can try again.....back to the 15 minutes lobby wait.
Repeat.
Damn we must be playin different games. For me it's wait 15 minutes for a lobby, run for a little bit, get 1 tapped.
@@ESC_Aces hahaha those ones are every other game.
I killed like maybe two or three pmcs throughout a whole day playing . That’s pretty bad 😂 game does feel empty like you say or players aren’t finding other players and most stuff is AI scavs
I started this game for the first time late wipe and i came to the conclusion that i was better of completely avoiding combat and sneaking around. Even ambushing an opponent like putting several round into the back of there head they still just tanked the hits whipped around and one shot me or had friends who would relentlessly push me and not much i can do when they can eat everything i throw at them. This was a demoralizing experience. I then went and did tons of research on the games fundamental mechanics and realized just how jacked up this game is. Its slightly better now since you can buy more stuff from early game traders but the mosin is your only reliable means of dropping people late wipe with shotguns and the ppsh coming as a close second. This game is not only broken at its core with its ballistics and net code but also VERY poorly balanced.
That’s kinda the point, it’s not suppose to be fair. People who put more time into it usually have the advantage.
@@armandosolis3943 that's were skill expression and knowledge separates those that just start and those that put in the time, being able to tank multiple rounds because you grinded the game since the start of the wipe is not a healthy way to separate beginners and vets
@armandosolis3943 tell me you know nothing about real life ballistics and guns with out telling me ....Def should not take many rounds to the head and survive no matter the "skill" and ammo used....fuckin stupid response
You’re using the wrong ammo or aiming in the wrong spot. Use rip/fmj and shoot their legs out. Will drop a mega Chad in seconds.
@@na2cho this is unfortunately pretty inconsistent and awkward with the games net code recoil mechanics and flinching not to mention the funky damage drop off. Especially with the lvl 1 traders ammo options mostly taking 8+ shots to kill. Unless they are stationary or you lay down to essentially remove your recoil and you get the drop on them your gonna have some troubles getting all your shots where they need to be before they start shooting back. I would much rather use the mosin with its t4 penning ammo and just go for the head to have a clean kill.
The main issue for me are the cheaters, if they can get that down to an acceptable level then I'll be happy. A prestige system would be awesome, could be a way to introduce weapon camo's.
Cheater amount now is similar to other games now after the ban waves. Stop using it as a crutch.
What's an "acceptable level"? When you head eyes everyone and survive 100% of your raids? 99% of the people I see complaining about cheaters are just bad or don't understand netcode
@@rodiculous9464 youre partly right. there are so many cheaters
An acceptable would probably be like 1 in 10 games also why you cock riding so hard the game is littered with cheaters
@@CruelSun69 You should get off copium.
The instant the next wipe drops, the cheater situation will be the worst it has ever been and who the hell wants to play a game with a cheater in every lobby?
I have been saying a few of these points myself for a while. Tarkov does have a serious re-playability problem. Good video Deadly, I hope you are good dude 👍🏻
Great video as always. Current state of tarkov is fun for a week or two, when I used to enjoy playing the entire wipe. Now I find myself enjoying scav runs for the challenge of gearing off the map more than playing pmc.
I feel this comment brother, scav gang.
yeah the not effective gear will let me down hard for Tarkov. I enjoy way more Gamma then this to be honest.
I can't help but feel the game was overall more enjoyable in 2018/19.
Loved the video, you made some good points, I think they should make the quests random, for each individual so that you could have a lvl 60 doing the untar quests just as an example, it makes people going to different maps and makes it harder to speed run also makes it harder for squads to be doing all the same quests and dominating the map.
Great video. Pretty much sums up why I don’t play a lot late wipe.
I would love to see a side server that you could select that wipes once a month, turn the first of the month into a wipe day every month.
Honestly if they made lobbies separate for solos and parties would greatly increase the quality of play. I haven't come across as many cheaters since the bans, but it's absolutely ridiculous that every gunfight I have to fight off a buddy. Not everyone has someone they can trust to duo with and it's honestly extremely frustrating.
What about the possibility of having it were beyond a minimum strength/endurance level you have to chose to either be able to run more or carry more? Like the different kinds of workouts you want your character to do.
I don't know how you do it Deadly, but you always get me excited for the future of Tarkov.
Also just remove all weapons, ammo and armor from the flea, and severly limit the number of high end items one can get from traders. That way majority of people will run mid-range equipment keeping gunfights fun like early wipe, and occasionally everyone get feel good getting a good kit, without having everyone run around like a juggernaut after a couple weeks.
It should be the opposite, no high tier ammo and armor from traders, let the guns be what they are, and when it comes to the flea, it wouldn't matter one way or the other, the problem right now is that you have to grind the Traders to be competitive, just so you can have ammo and armor to dumpster on casuals, while having a fighting chance against tryhards, so you pretty much don't start playing the game until you have class 4 armor and 40 pen ammo in a semi-auto gun, which takes at least till Prapor 3 for you to get, that's too long for the average player to be invested, and that's why people quit 2/3 weeks into a wipe.
@@NaderinZim without progression there will be no incentive to keep playing. Many people already skip a lot of the grind buying EOD, e.g. removing the need to complete punisher to get epsilon. If now you make all high tier gear available on flea progression stops at lvl15.
I agree the grind is obnoxiously tedious and I'd very much like to see it change, but there needs to be a reward for playing as with any game.
Limiting tryhards with high tier loot should be done by limiting the amount of high end gear available after unlocking the items at traders. E.g. Best guns in the game you can only buy one a week. Highest tier ammo maybe 90 rounds a week. You get your chance at outgunning others, but once you die it's back to the mid tier with everyone else
@@TheBonkening Ammo with more than 30 pen shouldn't be on traders, period. That's what makes people quit, no one cares if you have a full pimp-out SR-25, only about the ammo that you shoot. Limiting how much they can buy doesn't matter, because they can STILL BUY IT. I'm not saying "make traders obsolete", but if they removed tier 5 and 6 armor from traders, removed all ammo that has more than 30 pen from traders (and raised the amount and how often good ammo spawns from ammo crates), we literally wouldn't be on this situation where casual can only have a fighting chance by playing mosin man, at best. "BuT MAh GRinD" some people are gonna say, they shouldn't be rewarded with immortality just because they sat on their ass pressing F on containers more than the other guy, having better weapons, attachments, headsets, meds and misc gear is more than enough.
The flea market needs to go. It should be removed completely. I do agree that higher tier items shouldn't be available via traders. Level 2 and 3 armor are irrelevant after the first 3 hours. People are using level 4 on day 1. Max traders should offer level 4 armor. 5 and 6 should be extremely rare.
Banger video. I love your variety so honestly play any game, I’m always there.
Ever since the flea market the games gone downhill, honestly. It was nice when everything wasn’t “found in raid” for quests, but makes sense to sell it that way because it gave the option to purchase/find in raid for casuals. Unless you play for 2+ hours nowadays and don’t have “bad” raids you’re not making progress sufficient enough to bear the fruits of your labor.
They need to delete the flea market. Swallow their pride, cut their losses, and do what's best for the game.
@@KeepTheGates im not sure if you played when the flea market was open and semi open but it wasn’t /terrible/. being able to buy things for quests or the wipe after being able to buy gear to at least “find in raid” items, was pretty balanced for casual/serious gamers. all it took was 1 gpu/bitcoin and you could get a nice kit.
@@user-ty6lt8xp8t That's not good for the game.
@@KeepTheGates never said it was good, but it was the best time for the flea market because it made it fair for everyone. but now it’s almost useless to use with all the restrictions.
@@user-ty6lt8xp8t Yeah, it being fair for everyone is what kills the game.
wat the music start from 4:00?
7 mins into the video and I'm already giving ya a 'thumbs up' - you hit the nail right on the head for so many things you've called out. I love Tarkov the first two weeks of the wipe, it's so much damn fun. Gunfights are chaotic and you don't get 1-2 tapped in the body regardless of wearing the best armor in the game. Once everyone has M80 or equivalent+ and Vudu's on every weapon, it becomes way less fun to play.
I left once I hit level 48 this wipe was rough for me I never found my ledx until level 45 was huge shot to the moral I picked up sc i know that game has its own issue but am having a blast learning sc and dual sticks its a blast
Wait? They released a new map? I play every day and I didn’t know that. I thought the option called “Streets of Tarkov” on the map select was just a different way to exit the game. Did give me a weird crash error or something, but I always use it to exit. Faster than pressing the Exit button on the main menu.
Some brilliant ideas - Love the prestige system. Works well in Hunt although probably not as necessary. It would be a game changer for Tarkov and definitely keep the cycle of game play live each wife for a far greater length of time. All ideas attached to the prestige system are fantastic as well and surely many of them are not hard to implement. Great work, Deadly.
A prestige system with some "lifetime" quests that require certain objectives to be accomplished as both a usec and a bear that come with cool rewards. Make them stick around all wipe regardless of prestige afterwards as well. Or maybe make leveling significantly easier to do, make equipment moderately more abundant but run on 8 or 10 week wipe cycles
Excellent video thanks. I think the option to join a level capped lobby would be good too. You could have open lobbies, as well as something like 0-15, 16-30. That would at least level things out a little. I only have a few hours a day to play, I have just hit 21 this wipe, I have heaps of money and good gear, but map knowledge is lacking and most people I run into are just TANKS. So being able to join a game with people at a similar level would be huge for me.
Honestly have server brackets on gear value like 0-200k, first, 200-500k 2nd, 500k-1mil, 3rd and so on, you can even adjust scavs gear for those. It will definitely lead to people gaming the breakpoints but its still better than whats now.
I've started this wipe just last week, I've had quite the opposite experience but my playstyle is very slow compared to most. Been enjoying it so far but its always great to see other takes.
As always, since the beginning, you’ve got your finger on the pulse. I remember you streaming EFT as soon as the NDA lifted all those years ago and the game blew my mind. Many wipes later and, while I think the game has developed (content wise) incredibly, it’s lost its luster with all the bad that came along with the good. It’s incredibly annoying how the community goes through the exact same cycles of love and hate every damn wipe. And while the game holds an immeasurable place in my heart, something has got to give so we can get away from this hellish cycle. I wish the best, and I know you’re one of the best people to look to with insight on keeping this game running. Good luck with the little one, with much love, etc.
For me what kills Tarkov is the constant waiting in-between games trying to play with buddies, if they die it and you don't either they are sitting out with no idea what's going on with you or they are starting up another game and then when you are done you either got to dump your loot and refresh consumables or you have to put a kit together which means they have to wait even further for you, and then its like 4 to 5 minutes on average it feels to get into a game once you do get into the lobby.
my biggest problem is that i work full time by the time i grind up to max traders and can finally run kits with not worrying about money its time for a wipe, there needs to be a longer wipe cycle or two cycles one for sweaters and other for casuals
the game is dead 1 month after every wipe - and you want longer wipe cycles - genius at work :D
the solution is SHORTER wipe cycles - adjusted XP gain and smaller gap between low and high level
Other than playing with cool gear, there is almost no reason to see Tarkov through all the way. Level 42 is difficult and very time consuming to hit. For me, when I hit that level, I relax knowing I got max traders and can now spend my money on gear building cool guns and seeing what happens. The “Two Wipe Cycle” I have named it has been around for a long time. And the expectation of having a big patch coinciding with a wipe has been made for years now. I would say at least since Resevre has been added. It would be nice to have more frequent wipes but the question is how much. I don’t know, it’s a very fickle situation and at this point won’t likely get a resolution anytime soon.
I started playing Tarkov when I discovered Kotton’s channel when I was stationed in South Korea in 2017-18. I fell in love with the game because it was a completely new experience for a first person shooter. The last time I was super dedicated to play was in 2019 right before I went on deployment. The game changed so much in one wipe that I couldn’t figure how how to play without a flow chart to show what was good ammo vs bad ammo. I love Tarkov but Tarkov no longer loves me. I’m sticking with watching streamers until I get a new pc and better wifi. Thanks for the work you do deadly.
Great, great takes deadly! It's been years since I played the game. Curious what will mark the day of my return, but for me gotta be alot of QoL stuff and you nailed it for me with the early game analysis!
game goes from "wow that was a good fight" to "nice i won the coin flip"
Couldn’t agree more with this. As someone who works 50+hrs a week I normally disagree with the people who say certain games aren’t made for someone like myself. Never really been there case for me. In Tarkov however, I completely agree. There is just no feasible way to keep up and compete except for early wipe. Of course I can when fights here and there against higher lvls with better gear but the odds are stacked so much against me that I wonder what the point of even playing is. Usually a couple weeks later I just stop because it’s just not fun.
Make everyone wear their own initial outfit until they escape/prestige, then enable custom clothing options once you've reached that barrier to be able to camoflague and disguise your PMC effectively
Great video... I agree with what you mention about movement speed and using more stims mid-to-end game. People are moving too fast with heavy gear on and it does feel onesided most of the time... But I do l like how gunfights can last longer if both parties have equally good gear on. Also, I like what you mentioned about prestige/restarting the game and getting rewards like new outfits. Adding gold weapons, or even adding rank or metals on an outfit to show the status of yourself or the status of a killed player.. this info Nikita could use as well to spot cheaters. Adding character unlocks as you prestige to open an area that has higher bosses and enemies like a lighthouse setup would be another great option on the map.
I think people need rewards even if they are dumb to feel like they achieved something hence why the drop in players happens each year along with not feeling like it's one-sided when it takes them longer to get good gear than someone else that has the time to put into that already have it.
This is a definition of being a content creator and I think a lot of these are missing out on....anyone can plug and play the game be live or whatever but being so detailed about everything paying attention to what's happening what's working and what's not that's what it means and take to become a good content creator.
Deadly is by far the best in this then wackyjacky
Honestly great recommendations. I have liked the idea of 3 month wipes to keep the game state young for a bit. Aside from my first most addicted wipe, I've never played much past 3 months.
3 month wipes - great for people who play 40 hours a week, not so much for us filthy casuals. No wipe character and a wipe every 3 months for streamers, sure.
That's way too fast with how tedious the quests are. 3 months is so short to expect people to actually finish the game and reach end game
@@jamesw4980 Honestly i probably play 15 hours the first week and maybe 5-6 a week for the rest. But i am definitely prioritizing the early game enjoyment a lot more than finishing the quests, and getting kappa in my preferences.
Honestly, get rid of a bunch of the repeat quests. Going to the same 5 locations on shoreline 4 times to drop ms2000 markers doesn't need to be a thing.
Shorten the questlines, reduce the grind and shorten the wipes. I want to play early game tarkov a lot more than i want to get kappa.
Hey Deadly, how would you feel about putting Squad on your short list for variety gaming? You seemed to have a blast when it launched from early access.
I think you are completely right in everything you say here. I am one of those casuals who wont boot up the game because I am literally just spending time on loading screens and in the hideout or running a scav out to fund my next death
Its got to be the time investment that kills it for me nowadays. I usually have around 1 Hour a day to play, if that. Other games allow me to experience much more action in a much faster time. 5 minute matching, 10 minutes running, stashing looting. It just takes too much time to play. I'm really looking forward to Arena to be able to hop in, play for a bit and get off knowing I filled my time fully.
I love the idea of the reset for exclusive rewards. Also loved that you didn't just complain, but also suggested some things.
As a worker in a game development company, I only can say that tarkovs main issue is, yeah-yeah, the profit model. I could give a lecture about this one, but shortly speak, there's low motivation on changing the game because of the current model.
In SA you find people all the time. But also is fun that many ppl reset their account just to experience the grind again. That should be a great indication for bsg that the "escape" feature would work
I am excited to see how the game develops and the changes being made are small steps towards a brighter future. I think what will change is when the maps get united and you are required to travel point to point. It will be more work to have to travel through a couple maps to get from Shoreline to Interchange for example. This would make the quests take much longer to complete as you would have to run multiple maps to complete them.
I think the biggest issues this wipe are the audio and flashlights. I am just hoping the Unity switch will help fix these but it is good to see they are aware of them and it is meant to be addressed. It will be nice to get flashlights that dont bleed through floors/walls as well as not shine even when off. Being able to hear a scav shift side to side a floor above you through concrete is pretty amazing but its seriously broken. I do like the idea of a Prestige system though, but would be more fitting once the game has released. As of now you just have people no lifing the game and getting Kappa and having nothing to do afterwards except daily quests. Atleast there are those. But seriously people just need to slow themselves down and make the progression last so they arent done with the content in the first month of wipe.
Been 7 years you naive fool. Games going to get worse.
Great video Deadly. And great idea with prestige system. In Hunt working prestige good
I agree and you are the first person I have heard say this. I think the ideas are pretty good. We are moving really fast and it makes total sense that it is contributing to desync. The desync is overall worse late wipe and this makes total sense as to why. Lately so many people have been complaining more and more about how desync is worse right now more than ever before and this explains that fully! I am one of those people that believes desync is worse now!
Song name the background?😊
Had to share this idea.
Player Controled Bosses!!!
Imagine if your next skav run had a % chance to let you pilot one of the many bosses!
Maybe this prestiege system slowly increased that chance? (Starting 2% chance +.5% each prestiege? IDK)
Im aware of the massive ballancing, and spesificaly farming issues this presents, but i can already here the "Killa doesnt spawn there..." comms, followed by panic.
Just started playing literally days ago, and man it is rough. Learned I might as well not buy armour as it doesnt do anything for me beyond scavs. With the flea market at level 15, I lost interest in online Tarkov rather quickly around level 8. I can only run a basic bitch AK74/74u with PS/PP with a 12% survival rate for so long. I cant do quests, as everyone clearly knows where the items are, so everything is "M995, head, eyes".
Nikita may hate it, but SPT is p lit.
Great video. You've explained everything really well. Fully agree.
super excited for plates, going to be a huge change to the game, i think another good change could be the default weapon ready status, so instead of point fire it would be the low ready we see the characters doing on the load screen.
some bloom when point firing would be nice too
8:59 This right here is Tarkov's biggest long term problem. My personal solution would be to have trader stock be randomized and constantly changing per trader reset so you don't always have acces to all the best items at all times. This would make it so that even the highest levels of players would sometimes with bad trader RNG have to run near stock weapons, and if you want to run a meta gun with all the best parts you'd really have to save up for it by either keeping an eye on the traders often for good parts to pop up or finding the parts in raid. Obviously the flea market is still a thing, not sure about the best solution for that but maybe give it a limit on how many items you can buy per day from the flea.
Great vid and ideas bud!
I don't mind not winning as long as there is still stuff to work towards. I felt like I had no chance to complete kappa or get lighthouse keeper access because the tasks to do so felt impossible for me. I ended up just getting to around level 53 then quitting because there wasn't any progression left that I could go for realistically at my skill level.
cool idea, tons of ways you could go about it. i would love to see something like prestige
I definitely want more hats, sweatbands or bandanas. No helmet gang, unless I need to go to Factory or mount something.
Im not realy plaing tarkow tried it and during my playtime i didnt realy hawe problem with player jugernouts -- what maked me quit the game all the time i played was mission timer it maked me feel like i just had to go straight to the extraction just in case i got stuck in drawn out shoot out / sniper battle -- i play a lot of hunt showdown instead because it feels for me a lot more relaxed ( that i can take my time) while the tarkov is kinda more like rush game where you need to pick up 1 point you want to wisit and then you hawe to extract because your timer runing out😅
after reading the title i waited to watch this video till i had focus. when coming back to the video the title i remembered was "My Burnt and Toasted Take on Escape From Tarkov". i dont think im focused enough
I only made it about 5 weeks this wipe. Level 41. It's getting less and less each time. The cue is insane and super frustrating
While the prestige system is a possible long term goal, from how you describe the core issue just matchmaking would be the bandaid for the short term. If servers queued players at similar levels they would face challenges appropriate to their level keeping their interest for longer. I know people have been against this in the past but just how he describes the issue highlights this fix more than his suggested fix.
I like to think that availability for high tier items is currently pushed to allow for testing and that on release of the 'story mode' in the final game they will make good loot much, much harder to find. I hope it comes to a point that we will find players using more repaired items, interesting scopes and mods on shitty guns, running around with a nice vest but a worthless helmet etc. This will keep the game interesting and engaging in the long term. If they can make it genuinely rare - and therefore exciting - to find a nice gun or kit item on a downed PMC/Scav and you think twice about taking it out in a raid it will bring the game loop back into a good place.
Remember that feeling when you first played, that absolute fear of losing the small amount of gear you had. That's why you kept playing and pushing yourself.
I also think (as an EoD player myself) that the stash size we have makes the game a little easier in the early game. I think the Stash upgrades should be free to EoD's but placed under a level cap. So the costs are covered but the early gameplay is levelled out. If you have an equally small stash size you can't hoard ammo/rigs/mods/mission items. Decisions need to be made about what you keep and what you must sell exacerbating gear fear.
#BringBackGearFear
yep agree, high tier gear needs to be much harder to get
I pretty sure this wipe was more of a test for high end gear, I didn't find it insane to get high gear but FK me the amount of found in raid mp7s I was finding this was way too ridiculous.
This was a much easier wipe for me personally even considering I have not played in years. I think the biggest problem is how easy it was to make money this wipe. I barely touched scav (and scav streets was just raking in the cash) and I was always well off. I'm a spender, I'm the guy who dumps a few hundred grand just to make my bolty look cool 😅 but money was never an issue. You run out grab a mp18 and go do a few runs and and make a few mill. And this was with 2-3 other people in the squad so the loot is quartered. Reduce the money making will reduce the overall top tier loot
Another thing is I could feel the skill issue this wipe😂. 80% of kills were free
Great video Deadly!
Appreciate your take on the current situation and I totally agree. It's nice to see that you have come to a different opinion after all this time and admit it honestly. My respect!
I'm not a "hardcore" Tarkov player but I play it since almost 5 years now and never missed to play after a wipe. But for me this patch with Streets ruined it and I will skip a few of the next wipes. Maybe the fun will return.
After so many wipes it became more clearer to me that there is no diversity in a loadout. That’s my main point of not playing the game anymore.
Almost every time I reach lvl 42 with all traders unlocked and over 12 mil. rubel there is no limit in the loadouts.
BUT I can't build loadouts I like. If you like to compete at this point of the wipe you need! meta guns. And for me the overall look of them is just awful. We have a dozen foregrips, pistol grips, buttstocks and so on. But IMHO we buy at low level 1 or max. 2 i.e for the foregrip and 1 or 2 at max level either you want high ergo or low recoil. The other 20ish foregrips are just for the flee or trader sells. The foregrip (Fortis) I like the most has more than 50% less recoil reduction then the bis counterparts. In combination with other mods, I prefer the reduction in ero and recoil is significant. Therefore, I am "forced" to buy a laser beam meta gun and that su**s. Somehow, I think this will never change.
I love the custom dog tag idea!
7:22 is such a sick fight!!!!!!! Against all odds GGs brother
A cool idea would be the system implemented in diablo, where you have 2 characters, one for each "season wipe" that resets everytime, and one that doesnt reset, but with prestige system implemented like you said in the video, as you said. there is so much potential to the game if only some creativity plays in. ive never been more addicted to any game than this, and just think of it when it finally releases.. i dont think it ever will haha
I really like the ideas of prestiging in Tarkov. I also think a combination of massively reducing how much loot is in a map, adding dynamic loot, and nixing flea market would improve the life cycle of the game. I also do like that once you are out with the loot that your stuff is safe. I think the traders should be in a neutral zone across different maps, and you have to bring it to them to sell and you could use your container to secure your money. I also agree that the soft skills need to be reworked and even come up with different ones that do not have a direct impact on your ability to survive a gunfight.
I have fiber and build a new computer every 2 years but I think best part of wipe is actually 2nd to 4th week.
First week servers lag and wait/sync/load times are quadrupled.
By second week servers loads are balanced but everyone still grinding levels.
You are totally right Deadly, there's a replayability issue and there is also a player retention issue, both shortly after a wipe and far into one. There's little to no reason to keep playing when queue times are almost 10 minutes long only to die to a chad shortly after getting in the game. There's no reason to play long into a wipe because not only is barely anyone playing compared to the start of wipe, there's no real reason to get to "the end". I think a prestige system would be great in this game, give those who want to grind a reason to restart. Give those who are grinding a reason to keep grinding other than Kappa which players may or may not get due to RNG.
I think something that is insanely important for this game, is keeping the new players in long enough so they actually get a taste at winning. When i started playing this game I gave up in the first month becuase i wasnt seeing any of the upsides of playing (was getting destroyed every raid), it was only when i saw what winning was like on yt that i was enticed to keep trying. I think if we can give every new player a taste of winning before they quit, it will retain so many new players in the game. I think one way this could be easily done is have a map that is locked to like level 15 and below. I would love to see something like this, it would also give players that start mid wipe an insane chance of getting hooked in as most veterans would be well past level 15 at that point.
But then you'd have those vets who just want to stomp noobs so they'll reset there account or buy a whole new account
Really like your prestige ideas!
That's really cool idea!
I would also add an option to level match the players. It would make life easier for the players who has real life, and cannot spend all the time playing Tarkov
I would love to see a hardcore/iron man server where flea is removed and most of the good trades are taken away except for barters. Leave basic gear and meds purchasable with cash but anything mid or high tier a barter you have to find for your self. I think this would really fix the staleness
Well put. Flea market needs to go
They should do that to the game regardless, not just a hardcore mode. That would actually make it easier for casuals.
I really liked what DMZ did with the extraction genre. It kinda levelled the field by not having any unbalanced advantages over other players.
What if the stash was reduced or simplified?
Aye hockey shout out , hope your enjoying the playoffs my guy
one prestige idea stood out for me : different extracts with 30+ 40+ and so on. maybe this way newer chars wont meet highlevel so much...this basically steers the movement by a lot.
the strength/endurance comment hit me in my feels...yeah. im a dad of 3 and im barely at lvl31 since w/start. tomorrow i have my 400 raid . in what time should i lvl shit. it just got ridiculous
because of all those people with endless time on their hand. i feel totally left behind movement wise. and movement is life. guess what -.-
They should add a game mode where everyone is a scav and the only way to get a meta build in the match is to take it from one (maybe more) of the bosses on the map, or there are keys that are specifically for that map that spawn in the game giving player’s incentives to go to places of interest that have a chance of giving the player a better gun, gear, meds etc.
I really want to play this game, and I’ve owned it for years but I’ve never really been able to enjoy the experience. I feel like there are so many cool guns and pieces of kit available that I, as a casual player, will never get the chance to use. The only time I’ve entered a raid with a semi-decent load out (or even had a chance to kit out a 416) was during a pre-wipe event. I’m not sure the player base is receptive to this complaint, but that’s ultimately why I don’t really play the game anymore.
Why does the 15min mark matter?