"Rust" armorer convicted of involuntary manslaughter
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- A New Mexico jury on Wednesday found Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer on the Western film "Rust," guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Civil and entertainment attorney Tre Lovell joins CBS News to break down the verdict.
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I just can't understand why there was live ammo on the set in the first place. Talk about irresponsible!
Live ammos used in scenes were no people are actually being shot at. So a scene of say bullets hitting the ground or a building will use live ammo.
That was mentioned by several experts when it first happened. Completely irresponsible to have live ammo NEAR a set. Supposedly some of them would do some plinking after hours!
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@@TinylittledansonmanWrong!!
There was a contract with the property owner that no live ammo was suppose to be on set and she most likely brought the live rounds onto the set and was not sober during the course of her responsibilities!
“Never trust an actor with a gun.” ~Abraham Lincoln
Why you have armorer
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"Never trust internet quotes" - G. Washington.
Please tell me Abe said 'an' and not 'a'.
Never trust a maga to shut up about their guns.
She wasn’t mature enough to hold this Job- so while you have to blame her I also question the competence of whoever hired her.
It was strong nepotism. Her father is a world renowned armorer who has worked decades in entertainment.
Rust was an independent product spear headed by Alec Baldwin
She said she was the only female armoire…. Feel good hiring
You can’t tell me Baldwin being the producer and actor wasn’t on set long hours and unaware that they were shooting those guns with live ammo. He’s just as responsible if not more than she is.
the person holding the weapon is always the most responsible. gun safety 101
What kind of producer was he? Lots of people get producer credit, and usually only a few are hands-on. Others get credit for putting up money or being a big name actor. I honestly don't know which kind of producer he is.
Producer, co writer and main actor. I’m sure he was oblivious. Geez.
You fail to understand the chain of command on any film or theatre location where any legally controlled weapons are being used, whether they are tanks, handguns, crossbows, flick knives or pikes. The ARMOURER has TOTAL responsibility for the managament and control of everything that happens whilst the weapons are out of his/her SECURE armoury location. Furthermore, the armourer is ultimately responsible for ensuring that those using the arms are sufficiently familiar with their operation that they can use them with an acceptable level of safety. LIke it or not, THE BUCK STOPS TOTALLY WITH THE ARMOURER. End of.
When your armourer hands you a weapon, and tells you it’s a COLD GUN, that means they checked it personally.
This ISN’T a gun range scenario where you only point where you intend to shoot.
This is a MOVIE SET, where there is supposed to be NO LIVE AMMO.
Baldwin is not responsible as an actor, he is responsible as a producer hiring non union, un qualified armorers.
So he's responsible
@@sunnydelight3046pretty sure that's what he's saying.
He's getting sued into oblivion by the deceased's family
What does a lazy union have to do with anything ?
Actually the director is responsible because he was the one that handed Alec the gun and said it was clear. She never cleared that gun to be used in that situation. How can it be her fault when they didn't even call her in to clear the weapon?
This is what careless inexperience looks like
Incompetence
Yet the guy who pulled the trigger not once, but multiple times on a single action firearm which requires cocking after each shot... walks free.
Wow. Not that her actions shouldn't count, but how many other involuntary manslaughter convictions DIDN'T include the person who pulled the trigger?
The whole point of having an armorer on an acting set is to mitigate liability on actors who shouldn't have to be trained in gun safety.
They invented "the armorer" after the fact
You NEVER point a gun at something you dont intend to destroy!@@bjahava
@@jewelrymaker1607Except in movies.
The mother of the kid in Michigan that shot up a school.
Also in my area a couple was convicted of manslaughter when their dogs got loose and mauled a man to death.
Their going to lock up everybody except the one that pulled the trigger.
EXACTLY!!!!! you need to read my post under Robert Edwards. We are on the same page here. No one ever responsible ever sees jail or prison time. His money and a crooked attorney will make sure of it.
This is her job to make sure everything is safe. That is the sole purpose she is there. Dealing with guns you have to be very serious.
She was too concerned about her tic toc.
I'm not trying to diminish her responsibility in this, but she was a young person with very little experience put into a position she should have never been in. She was a legacy hire, and all the Hollywood creeps involved in that production would have had no hesitation in taking advantage of her weaknesses. She's been held accountable for her part. I'm interested in seeing how well the others are held accountable for theirs. I'll have my doubts until I see otherwise.
She should never had that job. Ever.
Yes and Alec Baldwin and the director decided to skip her advice. She didn't hand him the gun, the director did. She never cleared that gun to be used in that situation. Yet they used it anyways and Alec Baldwin was a producer.
@@rudyschwab7709 that said is trying to diminish her responsibility 🤡
She was set up for failure from the beginning. She lacked experience and this was her first job as an armorer. She was put in that position because she was cheap and wasn't hired through the acting union. Bottom line, she wasn't qualified. The entire production was done on a tiny budget and a dozen or more people walked off the set due to poor/unsafe working conditions and being put in the cheapest motel possible. This failure was of Alec Baldwin's own making.
Yeah he's gonna have to face that judgement soon I predict. But I don't feel sorry for her. She shows zero remorse, did not even care when she was told Halyna died. Very odd behavior, sociopath? Narcissist? Hard to know.
Exactly. Doesn't really make sense to blame someone who was in the job way over their head like this young lady. Baldwin is another matter.
@@groovyroom - She's guilty but the whole situation was 100% avoidable. The production of Rust was so low budget that serious safety concerns were raised numerous times and ignored. She wasn't qualified to be an armorer. Remorse or not, she was set up for failure and Baldwin is more responsible for what happened than her.
I mean yeah, I would say go harder on him than on her, but it really was something that the first thing she said to the detective on the scene was “welcome to the worst day of my life“. Definitely needs some time in the cooler to get some perspective on life
However, she also was partying pretty hard after work. That had to affect her work.
Note to film industry, make your armorers take a drug test before and during filming.
And maybe not hire 24 year old nepo babies.
@@groovyroomwhat’s a nepo baby?
@@whatsgoingon07 someone who got the job bc of who their parent/parents are, not bc of their actual knowledge and skill.
Bladwin next. Waving a gun around like an idiot, "It wasn't my fault"
He was playing the part ❤😂
He was literally practicing the part.
Why did live ammo make it to the set ?
No one knows. The question is unanswered.
Apparently she had a history of firing live guns on set.
Good question !
Using live guns on a movie set with live ammo? Seriously? We should be locked up !
@@jacobfromallstate4963 Various crew members (who should be identified) recreationally "plinked," fired real bullets into tin cans. Is it plausible that coproducer Baldwin was unaware of this dangerous practice?
I didn’t follow the armors entire trial but why in the hell were live rounds on the set to begin with? That’s insane!
We'll never know because the investigation was botched, and the Prosecutor handed out sweet plea deals to the really guilty people. Many people were responsible for that death, and none of them will face trial.
Anyone that is handed a gun no matter if the person handing it to you says it’s clear you should ALWAYS check for yourself. Go to any firearm class and that is one of the first things the instructor will tell you.
Not on a movie set. There is a protocol for this - for good reason. The ARMOROR is responsible for the gun. After handing an actor (could be Keanu Reeves or Alec Baldwin or Opie Taylor) a safe firearm, if that actor opens the cylinder (on a revolver) - the armoror should stop the scene and take the gun back and re-check it. NOBODY is allowed to open the gun other than the armoror.
NOBODY is supposed to be near the camera or behind the camera if the scene calls for an actor to point a gun in the direction of the camera.
EVERYBODY on set is supposed to insist that the armoror show everybody that the gun is safe. (not just the actor it is being handed to)
@danbarrette9888, That Baldwin's an actor entitled to rely on the professionalism of the crew to each do their job is exactly the opinion I had. A person who goes to a gun class with the expectation of learning & using a real, loaded firearm is an entirely different situation than a actor on a movie set playing a part with props. I do think, however, that the party or parties who brought live ammunition on the set should be held liable for that.
@@mariesmith8454 then don’t use real guns on the set after all everything in movies is fake. Because I must be a little bit more intelligent than some even if I was an actor someone hands me a real gun I check it. All of two seconds everyone lives.
I will see you on that the Alec Baldwin the actor was following well-established protocol. As far as Alec Baldwin the producer, that’s a different story. There were ongoing issues with many aspects of safety, and it’s well known that he was rushing people around and even putting the armorer under a lot of pressure, not that that excuses her, but it definitely doesn’t stop with her.
Movie guns are not supposed to be real guns. Everyone knows that Rule #1 of handling a gun is to never point the barrel at anyone that you do not intend to shoot, but how bad would action movies look if none of the characters could ever point guns at each other? The responsibility for this is squarely in the hands of the armorer and whoever brough that gun onto set.
How on earth do you allow live ammunition on a set? Prop guns do not fire live rounds.
For the front view imagery they were filming, it IS necessary for the revolver to be fully functional.
Most do fire live ammo
Prop doesn't mean fake. Fully functional firearms are also props. The use of the item defines what it is called. In this case, the prop gun was also fully functional.
Prop guns ARE real guns. It's the ammo. Live rounds, rounds with a plastic plug(bullet), and the blank.
He has no idea what he's talking about. Your right.
nope if you have a gun in your hands its your responsibility to check. The military shoots thousands of rounds blanks and live ammo. Its always the responsibility of the shooter to check.
Tht makes no sense. Armorer is there so blame doesnt fall on an actor. The actor cant check because then the armorer wouldnt be last person to check
That's not how it works on film sets. Actors have no training to do that and they are not supposed to do it.
When you're trained to handle live weapons that's correct. When you have zero training, like an actor, you have a person like her 100% in charge of the weapons...no excuses, that's exactly what they're paid for.
Wrong, stop talking about things you don’t understand.
Lol and the moment blanks are replaced with ammo, they won't just shrug it off, they'd come for the armorer.
These reporters clearly didn’t watch the trial. She’s guilty because she didn’t do the safety checks that would have detected the live rounds. Alec’s trial may be less about him as an actor and more of his role as a producer.
There shouldn't have been live ammo anywhere near the whole area.
Only one person is suppose to check for weapon safety. That was this woman.
No wild man. She checks. And Alec was supposed to check.
I clear a handgun then give it to you. Your job also is to check it is clear
Sad and unfortunate all the round
Baldwin needs to be convicted next. And no, not for shooting her. But for his responsibility as Producer in hiring this woman, and for allowing a dangerous set environment (this was said by many of the cast members/crew).
nope hes guilty of homicide- he pointed a gun at someone without confirming it was a prop gun or had blanks
Agreed!
He did not break the law in hiring her. Thats like you working for a company and going on a crime spree, should we convict the guy who hired you?
He is probably going to have get outs jail card
@@Elemental_EntityHe did break the law in squeezing the trigger and shooting a person. That's not disputed by a single lawyer in New Mexico, where this occurred.
Yes,she bears some responsibility, but so does Alec Baldwin. A tragic, accidental death.
Prop guns shouldn't have space to put bullets in.
Why? An item that is a movie property (prop) can be fully functional. For some movie scenes, prop guns have to fire blanks so, they need to be able to accept functional ammunition.
They fire blanks from real guns.
We're talking about a real gun, not a prop.
There is no reason a prop gun should be able to chamber live round
They weren't using a prop gun.
This is what happens when you hire “ON THE CHEAP” unqualified young girl with no life experience. All people in charge on this production are culpable.
Everyone should undergo a drug test when making a movie
literally no movies would ever be made
@@skippypeanutbutter9136 Or well, skippy This is the price you pay when you mix drugs alcohol in your line of work.
Did the trial show that the convicted girl armorer had done drugs when making this film?
@@JudgeJulieLit I'm saying in general, everyone should undergo a drug test. It was indicated she gave the witness something to hold looks like white powder substance.
There should have never been ANY live rounds of ammunition on that set and it was her responsibility to make sure that there wasn't. Alec should have NEVER had his finger placed on that trigger. I don't care what he says, his finger was on the trigger, and that weapon should have been holstered and not pointing the barrel at anyone. You never point a gun at a person because you have to always assume that weapon is hot. Anyone who handles a gun should know that.
She didn't pull the trigger..... Alex did. Get it right folks. Now was there a motive behind this. Why would she put live ammunition in that gun. That was no mistake.
As the armorer her duty is to check the pistol and make sure it is clear. Alec is held to the same standard.
I want to know who she was texting about the drugs. Who was she drinking and doing drugs with? My suspicion is that this totally inept person was not hired for her armorer skills and that was the biggest contributing factor that led to this death.
Her lack of remorse or accountability sealed the deal for me.
Earlier on the day of the shooting there were union workers who stormed off the set talking about how safety was going to go down without them, and one of them was the armorer. It's not a mystery to me how live rounds got on set.
So that day of the fatal shooting of the cinematographer was the now convicted armorer girl's first day on the set? A newbie, intimidated into taking orders from her elder experienced bosses?
Isn’t she the one who brought a bag of coke to the set?
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Yes, Ukaren.
If you have a gun in your hand, checking to see if it's loaded, and keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, is your responsibility. Come on, now! I've known that since I was a child.
They put her on trial first so Alec can pretend that he’s not responsible, and get off without any charges.
@SpookyDookySr
And what is your point?
He was an actor that thought he was pretending using a safe prop weapon. He is responsible for hiring the armorer, but not for manslaughter.
@@Luciphell learn basic firearm safety and then you’ll understand my point
@@Luciphell typical lib shirking responsibility. "i'm too dumb to know what i'm talking about but I'm anti gun"
wow you can't make this up.
He was responsible for what happened with the weapon. This is gun safety 101. period
@@Luciphell - Baldwin DID NOT check the gun himself and knew that the gun he had in his hand was a fully functional firearm. "I didn't know the gun was loaded" will not be a legitimate defense against an involuntary manslaughter charge.
@@SpookyDookySr
He is only responsible for hiring her. It was her job to make sure the prop was safe. Basic firearm safety is all well and good, maybe she should have done her job.
*_First,_* he was one of the Producers, not 'just' an actor. *_Second,_* as a Producer, it's their job to create a good working environment and they constantly communicate with everyone to make everything run smoothly. They have ultimate legal responsibilities for the health and safety of the crew on set and delivery of a completed film at the end of the production process. *_Third,_* why were live rounds even on a set these days? Alec and Producers all have some responsibility here.
Well said
She literally had ONE job…
In fact she had TWO jobs, which was contrary to common practice on film sets. She was also responsible for props. This is why the production is partly responsible for not providing an experienced armourer whose sole job was looking after weapons and ammo on set.
Wrong, she was doing two jobs. Armorer and prop master, due to corners being cut, lax safety on set and a megalomaniac named Alex Baldwin.
True, but I think she had other jobs assigned to her. His real problem is working on such a low budget and hiring an experienced person for a really important position.
@@markdelgado8963 She wasn't even experienced at the primary job, let alone taking on more responsibilities. That's what he's really guilty of.
@@markdelgado8963it wouldn’t have mattered if she hadn’t brought the live ammunition in the first place.
What a huge responsibility. I guess she didn’t take it so seriously.
Appropriate. It was her job to ensure gun safety.
Anyone who held or possessed that weapon, had the responsibility to adhering to gun safety rules. You always treat every weapon as if it were loaded, and never point the weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.
@@deplorablelibertarian She was the "professional" it was her job. All other participants are supposed to be able to rely on the expertise of "professionals."
It's supposed to be two different jobs, for good reason.
@@deadwingdomain why? It takes a few seconds to inspect ammunition. Making it anyones responsibility other then the shooter just adds room for confusion
Exactly
Terrible jury....the only thing I can figure is the whole cocaine thing...that is probably what got her in hot water.
He is not entitled to rely on an expert for safety when he is holding a real gun. Anyone outside the movie industry would be charged with homicide l. Gun safety rule number one and the law states that anyone who has a gun in their possession is responsible for handling it safely.
Except this wasn't outside of the movie industry, this is how this works in the movie industry.
EXACTLY!!!! even in your own home. Thats why when you purchase a weapon you sign a paper saying if a child under the age of 16 (I believe) handles a gun and a negligent discharge happens YOU the gun owner are responsible!
It seems Baldwins arrogance and cheapness increased the danger on the set. They will scapegoat as many as they can.
she got Ghislaine Maxwelled.
Ghislaine Maxwell literally helped in a human trafficking ring. Stop talking.
In the scapegoat sense. But she was nowhere near such a seasoned "Napoleon of crime." She was a naive girl miscast in this vital armorer role.
@@JudgeJulieLit wrong she was the person in charge of the firearms on set. It was her responsibility to insure their safety, and she told police on the scene she really didn’t inspect the pistol because it had been in a safe. She is the one that brought the live ammunition on set. Which is forbidden. She created the situation then through her negligence handed a live firearm to someone and told them it was dead. Because of her negligence someone died.
Did Alex lose his temper and it got out of hand, again? Why did he aim and pull?
This is what happens when you hire people on the base of the color of their skin or gender or religon or social status.
Two tier justice system strikes again!
Dangerous woman.
Now, what about the guy with his finger on the trigger?
I am wondering, what were her qualifications for the armorer position? I taught rifle and shotgun shooting merit badge at Boy Scout summer camp. I had to pass an NRA safety training course before I could step foot on the rifle range at summer camp. I also had experience with many types of weapons as I am a 5 year Army veteran. I did not have one safety issue with my 11 to 14 year-old boys because I was qualified and enforced safety rules to the letter. Was she a diversity hire? How did she get this important job? Did she allow live rounds on the movie set? There should have been no live rounds allowed within a hundred miles of the set. How could she let this happen? Who loaded the weapon with live rounds? Were the weapons on set locked up when not in use? Did the armorer personally clear each weapon before handing it over to the actor? What the heck was going on with this movie production?
They were out there in bumfuk nm, doing coke, drinking, shooting live amo into cans, etc. They were playing cowboy in the wild wild west. The whole crew were irresponsible. The entire union camera crew walked out due to safety concerns. Oshawa testified that the producers and directors responsible, not this girl. The girl was hired because her stepfather was a famous armored in Hollywood for years. Nepotism baby. The who thing was rotten top to bottom.
No, the guns were not locked up after every scene. Guns were left laying around.
Her Father is one of the best-known armorers in Hollywood, thats how she got the job.
They dont color code their ammo on sets?
A young lady lost her life due to her negligence. 18 months wow!!that's all our justice system stinks .
She proved to be worth every cent that Baldwin paid her.
Can anyone explain WHY there were live bullets on a movie set? Why would they be necessary?
She won't be working as an armourer ever again.
There, there Alec. Yeah, you shot people but we got this rookie to take blame.
so he's too stupid to be responsible for firing a live weapon.
But he's smart enough to be anti gun?
This is why we shouldn't listen to celebrities about anything.
^5...lmao
Amount of blame assessed inverse to the amount of money at the disposal of the defendant.
Be patient, Baldwin is on deck and getting ready to bat in court next.
You seem blinded by hate. It was literally her job to prevent this from happening.
If she was a famous movie star with millions of dollars and connections in high places she would have walked free.
It is Baldwins fault 100 percent. Always inspect the firearm that is given to you.
Baldwin cocked the hammer, pointed the gun at a human, and pulled the trigger so, yes, he is at fault. He also hired her. However, she is responsible for all of the firearms and ammunition on the set. There never should have been live ammunition anywhere near the set.
You are right, 100% Baldwin's fault. The other 50% is the armorer's fault.
The movie industry has established its own protocols for how guns are handled on a movie set with an armorer, and they are not what you think they are. Actors are not even ALLOWED to inspect the firearm that is handed to them. The armorer is responsible for ensuring the gun is safe. If Baldwin as an actor or producer was following established protocols, then he will be found innocent. If he wasn't, he will be found guilty. That's as it should be. It should have nothing to do with how much someone likes or dislikes him.
@@dansanger5340 Do you really believe that??
@@SGTDread12 We'll see when the trial happens.
She did not look slightly remorseful at all.
And what about the guy who had the gun and bullets.
He's just faultless and blameless in all things...check out the other comments here.
Baldwin is responsible to, so he needs to be convicted, he pulled the trigger no matter what period!
I still don’t see how they’re trying to pursue a conviction against Baldwin. He lied about the pulling the trigger but, it’s a movie set, Baldwin had absolutely no reason to believe the prop was loaded with a deadly round.
The number two hire for a armorer was probably like some ex navy seal badass
If you're implying that she was an affirmative action hire, it's actually just the opposite. She was a nepotism/legacy hire. Her father was a big shot Hollywood armorer.
Alex is guilty also. He should have never pointed a firearm at a person. The camera wasnt even rolling! Guilty.
Actors point guns at other actors all the time. Have you never watched a movie before?
We demand one more guilty verdict for the one actually responsible...Alec Baldwin.
Suddenly everyone is a firearm expert, and have doctorates in firearms safety.
This is a total sham if Alec Baldwin is not also convicted of the same thing.
Yeah...this is right. It's not Alec's job to deal with this, he just gets handed a prop. Her literal only job was to deal with the on set weapons safely.
Wow she got dressed up and looked professional. She should have looked professional on the job
Oh, please. Alec Baldwin gonna wind up Scott free.
First treat all firearms like they are loaded ,second check to see if it is loaded, third never aim a firearm at ANYTHING you do not intend to shoot. Steps were missed and a person is dead, and the biased media glosses over Baldwins carelessness in all of this.
You seem to have glossed over the fact that the movie industry has its own protocols and actors are not even allowed to check guns that were handed to them. That is the armorer's responsibility. Is it a good system? Maybe not. But, it is the system.
If Baldwin had been directed to point a pistol at himself, would he have checked to see if it was loaded ?
Probably so.
Who tf thought that SHE would be qualified to handle even fake weapons
Baldwin should be charged. He pulled the trigger, period.
When Nepotism goes wrong and exposes the increasing incompetency of the US.
I agree with the verdict, but don’t understand why Alec Baldwin is being charged when he’s merely an actor and not an armorer in charge of firearm safety on a movie set.
Remember the guy who pointed the gun that apparently fired itself? No accountability at all?
so he's too stupid to be responsible for firing a live weapon.
But he's smart enough to be anti gun?
This is why we shouldn't listen to celebrities about anything.
What was her reasoning for having only one out of numerous stunt guns on set to even be loaded with live ammo.....
Hmm, is it the random girl they hired on short notice to come to an already dressed and supplied set that has malice, or was it the union armorer who left the set earlier in the day with all the other union workers talking about how unsafe it would be without them? I wonder which has motive to create an accident? Such a mystery.
@@FredrickTeslamaybe she shouldn’t have brought the live ammo to the set.
@@cyanleopardArmorers don't bring the armory with them genius. They were filming hours before she arrived, live rounds were already on set.
@@FredrickTesla you can say that but she’s the one going to jail for negligence. You’re wrong get over it.
Still waiting for Baldwin's trial.
She wasn't as good as she thought.
Guns aren’t toys
If Baldwin had opened the gun, would he have invalidated the armorer’s inspection? What exactly is the order of operations here? Because I see at least three OpSec problems.
I disagree, any adult that has a firearm in their hands is responsible for being safe with that firearm. Thats the only safety that can exist in reality. Movie or not, it doesnt matter. U dont point any gun at another human unless its to protect yourself or others period. if its a movie and a firearm in an unknown condition its more important and u dam well better be sure its unloaded and/or clear of real ammunition. If not its incompetence, plain and simple.
It’s the person holding the gun to make sure it’s unloaded.
Baldwin needs to be in jail
Baldwin said he did not pull the trigger. He did not say he was handed a gun with real ammo. He should have verified whether the gun was safe. Baldwin is just as guilty.
they're only allowed to tell the truth after enough time has passed. Just like elections or pandemics
My goodness, she looks like a thirteen-year-old. Too young; too incompetent; too immature.
Wow, a woman actually experiencing consequences. That’s unusual. A man would’ve gotten 12 years
Barely got consequences
Cry more trumpie!
The case against her was straightforward. Tragic that it's going to end her career while she's so young, but the greater tragedy was the life that was lost.
Why did she have the job ?
When a weapon is handed off both the armorer and the recipient are supposed to check the weapon to make sure its safe
Yeah, together maybe? What is the formal protocol here?
alec shot that poor girl and is ultimately responsible for her death.
I've been an armourer for medieval weapons. Arguably much safer than firearms. We made sure the weapons only went to the exact right person and were not let out to go play with when not filming. This was done will dull swords and spears. This armourer either couldn't, or wasn't allowed to police and control her far more deadly arsenal. She should have taken a plea.
Alex Baldwin is NEXT
And he's gonna get off. She was one of the 2 people who told him the gun was good to go.
Legit, why?
are you still angry he embarassed donald trump with his impersonations?
And you already know he will be found not guilty…the onus is on the other 2 people, he’s going to get off.
@@danjo1967…alec embarrassed himself; as trump is way more popular. Are you mad foreign governments release skits making fun of potato head? The one from Italy was hysterical.
If she is convicted of manslaughter, Alec needs to be convicted, as well.
are you still angry he embarassed donald trump with his impersonations?
The whole chain of control on the weapon is just as guilty.... She's just the one with the least money to fight back... Hate this world.
He was a victim of her failure and an unwitting participant. So, no.
@@kriswingert1662if I handed you a gun and said it’s fine no bullets- and you shot and killed someone. You’d be in jail.
If Baldwin had been directed to aim the pistol at himself, would he have checked to see if the pistol was loaded? Someone has to be the villain, and it's not going to be him.
Poor girl😢. She didn't know what real lead looked like.
*BALDWIN IS JUST AS GUILTY!!!!*
If she is going to jail so should Baldwin.
First and foremost, one should never point, even, an empty gun at anyone or anything that’s is not an intended target. Period. Baldwin’s father was a forearms instructor, and the actor should have known the first safety rule. So sad, that many lives have been ruined.
Shame, shes such a pretty girl too.
Max is 18 months? What a joke.