I think this is one of the better post 64 Road Runner cartoons if only because the concept is really cool and it is one of if not the only time the Road Runner itself actually gets frightened, but yeah, still ain't all that great.
This one is, IMO, the best of the Larriva Roadrunners. That's not saying much, obviously, but it's a clever idea. The limited animation somehow adds to the appeal of the giant robot.
I actually had the theory that the roadrunner didn't even know the coyote wanted to eat him, he just sees this guy off to the side of the road building stuff, occasionally trying to "Race" with him, and falling off cliffs a lot- and he's like "Boy, that guy REALLY seems to like falling off cliffs..." Road runner being scared of him kind of set me wrong- although the robot coyote grabbing him would have at least startled him. As for why he's running - its what he does. XD
I failed to point out how silly I always thought it was a.) that he wanted the robot coyote to eat the Roadrunner.... so what, now it's about revenge with him? And b.) when the coyote gets eaten, the robot is holding the RR, then the coyote crawls out of the robot's ear and the RR is gone AND across a cliff. How did he escape and get across that thing? One gets the feeling that Rudy Larriva wanted the cartoon to end just as much as the rest of us did then. - trevor.
I think you just commented about something that’s not needed. I mean my theory for both of those things is that Wile E. planned to turn the bird into Road-Giblets by the time the robot eats him. But since that backfired, the Roadrunner broke free by the time the Coyote got out of the digestive system and avoided that trap. As for the pitfall... well, there’s another cartoon that goes into that.
If I remember correctly, Wile E. has a bit of an issue where he goes so overboard with his plans that he begins to work in ways that run contrary to his intended goals. It goes from _"catch and eat the Roadrunner"_ to _"straight-up kill the Roadrunner"_ or _"make this contraption work as intended at least once."_ over the course of the cartoon.
I can easily tell that Rudy Larriva's 'Road Runner' cartoons aren't nearly in the same league as Jones' work, but you do make an excellent point about how Jones never went outside of the box with These characters. Larriva having The Road Runner fear for his life in awe of the giant Coyote robot was something different because up to that point, he just zooms around the desert oblivious to what The Coyote's gonna do next to catch him. Is he just doing it for the exercise? is he always one step ahead of The Coyote's plans? Is he unaware of his existence? We never know.
The theme song for The Road Runner Show heavily implies that the Road Runner just enjoys running on the road, and is just innocently minding his own business, unaware of the Coyote's existence.
Great commentary, once again, Trevor! I have to admit the only time I laughed out loud when watching was seeing the look of terror in the real coyote's eyes as the tin coyote fell from the canyon. I also thought the explosion at the beginning was a cool effect. That said, I would agree that only Chuck Jones could do the Road Runner/ Coyote series properly.
I think generally the most vibrant and appealing Looney Tunes characters had at least SOME formula breakers. Like Bugs was USUALLY in the trickster role but he had moments of playing the fall guy or even cases he wasn't pit against any character and that made him seem like a three dimensional character. Elmer similarly wasn't a hunter all the time, while Daffy and Porky could do just about ANYTHING. They got tied to key shticks after a while, but all the same, I don't think they'd be as iconic if that was ALL the character display they ever got. I like those odd unconventional uses of the other characters like Pepe in Odor of the Day for this reason, just seeing a different side to them. Road Runner is excusable since Jones made clear he was made to be more a prop than a real character, still I think it worked to have that one token time Wile was actually something of a threat to him, it's just a shame it wasn't in a better era of the franchise. (They seemed to like downplaying the one sided rivalries in the De Patie Freleng years, Speedy similarly got challenged or even lost to Daffy sometimes, something Sylvester never really managed before.)
Yeah, these latter cartoons did not age well compared to the older ones. That said, I still loved them as a kid. And I remember amusing the hell out of a friend when we were playing with action figures and I was stomping around with some robot imitating those sounds that the Mecha Coyote's internal mechanisms made.
I actually enjoyed this one. The only error I saw was in the final scene. When the coyote told robo-coyote to try again, why didn't he get shocked since he was standing between its ears? It happened the first time.
A lot of the ACME products seen in these cartoons were predictions of future technology. Was this one predicting the driverless car? I've hoped someday there will be one that has a remote so that if one is full of energy but has to haul heavy loads to or from home or other destinations, one could load their goods into the robotic car, lock it, use the remote to send the car to its destination, walk to its destination, and upon arriving at the destination, unlock the driverless car and unload their goods.
The fact that Format Films won an Oscar before this isn't meant to make it better, it makes things worse, if you look at the email I said that it was sad that they got a Oscar but ended up making this later.
WTF is with all the haters here?? Jesus I'm totally nostalgic of these cartoons and miss them. And I saw them in 1976. This was when the going animations were 1967 Spider-Man and Rocket Robin Hood. Why's everyone trying harsh the buzz of these groundbreaking toons?? Remember the BEST America was turning in was those STUPID HULK, CAPTAIN AMERICA, AND THOR CARTOONS!! And those weren't even full motion... But noooo shit on legitimate animation history. Yeesh. Have respect for history... At least Canadian animators turned in Spider-Man and Rocket Robin Hood.
The animation unit {Grantray-Lawrence} who worked on the "MARVEL SUPER HEROES" TV series had about a fraction of the production budget Format {and DePatie-Freleng} had for the Road Runner theatricals; they were expected to grind out 65 half hours [195 segments] of that daily series. And the results ranged from "okay" to "so-so".
5:32- I think the robot didn't like being called "stupid"- and swallowed the Coyote instead. If it could talk, it might have said- "NO-ONE-CALLS- *ME* -'STUPID'-AND-GETS-A-WAY-WITH-IT!"
I hated that period with those wrong-looking logos and repetitive plots. I'm glad Bugs Bunny wasn't alive when these were made or else he would have been in awful shorts. What? He wasn't dead? Just retired to television? Oh. TV's awesome. He knew where the money was.
During those dark years of Looney Tunes between late-1964 to 1969, Bugs Bunny, Tweety, Elmer Fudd, Pepe Le Pew, Marvin the Martian, Taz and Foghorn Leghorn all retired to television. Meanwhile Porky Pig, Sylvester and Granny very rarely appeared in any cartoons during the DePatie-Freleng era of the mid-1960s.
After a three year hiatus, Herb Klynn reactivated "Format Films" in 1965. Not only did they produce commercials, TV title sequences {"I SPY", "THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS SHOW", "ACCIDENTAL FAMILY", "HEE HAW"} and the majority of the 1966-'67 "LONE RANGER" cartoons for Jack Wrather, they also produced the bulk of the Road Runner cartoons when DePatie-Freleng was too busy with the Pink Panther series {yet Dave and Friz recieved sole credit, as per their exclusive contract with Warners}.
That's true. All 11 Rudy Larriva cartoons have the credit that says "Produced by David H. DePatie & Friz Freleng"(The "H" stands for Hudson if you read the "Think Pink" book.)
Yes! It wasn't until after DePatie-Freleng's contract ended did Herb Klynn receive credit for three 1967 Daffy & Speedy cartoons directed by Larriva {"Quacker Tracker", "The Musical Mice-Tro", "The Spy Swatter"}, before Alex Lovy took over production under Bill Hendricks.
At 2:04, in the dump, there is a sign that seems to read "FOR SALE RHINOCEROS, ELEPHANT, LEOPARD". I wonder if it is a shout-out to another Looney Tunes cartoon.
Sorry, I requested this because in one of the comment sections you said you liked this one, also I have very good news, besides for Feather Finger I don't intend on requesting any more DFE shorts for a while.
Well don't apologize, man. Only people who should apologize about their opinions are folks that own MAGA hats. Did I really say that I liked this short? I don't remember that. It IS noteworthy for a few things that I mentioned, but I don't recall liking any of the DFE Larriva Roadrunner shorts. - trevor.
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic I just remember you saying that you don't dislike all the DFE projects, and then you mentioned this short and "A haunting we will go" because you liked June Foray in it.
@@d-manthecaptain1382 That cartoon's weird. I don't know why I like it. Maybe it is June. I'm also a fan of the color. 'Glass Huarache' isn't DFE/Seven Arts is it?
I already know you'll hate this cartoon, knowing your opinions given on these shorts in the past, so I'm typing this out before I watch... I may reply later. So, this was the first LT cartoon I saw (on Nickelodeon, 1988) that had the wacky 60s opening, and my dad had to explain it to me. Then the cartoon starts, and there's no funny science words in parentheses like all the others which I thought was weird. But when Wile E. was making his giant robot, what I found interesting was the Road Runner, showing more emotions than just gleefully running and outrunning the adversary, feeling suspicious, curious, fear and surprise. That's kind of interesting. Plus, some gags are pretty good. It's still not great, but I'd put it in the "better" pile of mid60s Looney Tunes just for that. but I'm one guy, one that can't hate it.
I always saw this on CN, and I still think it's a pile of shit. I only like that one cartoon w/ Porky and Daffy on Halloween that DePatie and Freleng made. Everything else sucks
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"Larriva, larriva, larriva. Andale."
That made me laugh harder than anything in the short ever did, so kudos for that.
I think this is one of the better post 64 Road Runner cartoons if only because the concept is really cool and it is one of if not the only time the Road Runner itself actually gets frightened, but yeah, still ain't all that great.
The Road Runner shows more personality here than just being the running bird, and that's something I can appreciate.
Uh oh, RR finally broke.
Say what you will about this, but Larriva did something that Jones never dared to.
You missed however that this appears to be the ONLY time that the Road Runner is LEGITIMATELY caught! Well that I can recollect.
@@QJ89 I think its beacause some people hate the Road runner
What about Rushing Roulette?
This one is, IMO, the best of the Larriva Roadrunners. That's not saying much, obviously, but it's a clever idea. The limited animation somehow adds to the appeal of the giant robot.
I actually had the theory that the roadrunner didn't even know the coyote wanted to eat him, he just sees this guy off to the side of the road building stuff, occasionally trying to "Race" with him, and falling off cliffs a lot- and he's like "Boy, that guy REALLY seems to like falling off cliffs..." Road runner being scared of him kind of set me wrong- although the robot coyote grabbing him would have at least startled him.
As for why he's running - its what he does. XD
I failed to point out how silly I always thought it was a.) that he wanted the robot coyote to eat the Roadrunner.... so what, now it's about revenge with him? And b.) when the coyote gets eaten, the robot is holding the RR, then the coyote crawls out of the robot's ear and the RR is gone AND across a cliff. How did he escape and get across that thing?
One gets the feeling that Rudy Larriva wanted the cartoon to end just as much as the rest of us did then.
- trevor.
I think you just commented about something that’s not needed. I mean my theory for both of those things is that Wile E. planned to turn the bird into Road-Giblets by the time the robot eats him. But since that backfired, the Roadrunner broke free by the time the Coyote got out of the digestive system and avoided that trap. As for the pitfall... well, there’s another cartoon that goes into that.
Robbie Walker I agree Robbie. Trevor seems to have a penchant for complaining about cartoons rather than providing actually relevant commentary.
If I remember correctly, Wile E. has a bit of an issue where he goes so overboard with his plans that he begins to work in ways that run contrary to his intended goals.
It goes from _"catch and eat the Roadrunner"_ to _"straight-up kill the Roadrunner"_ or _"make this contraption work as intended at least once."_ over the course of the cartoon.
Watching one of these cartoons from this era is like seeing the Mona Lisa covered with finger paint. I just think they are dreadful.
I'd go as far and call this era objectively bad
Toonfan It was certainly up there with the 2000s shorts era. They’re not as bad as these ones, for sure, but...eh, they’re a bit asinine and bland.
I can easily tell that Rudy Larriva's 'Road Runner' cartoons aren't nearly in the same league as Jones' work, but you do make an excellent point about how Jones never went outside of the box with These characters. Larriva having The Road Runner fear for his life in awe of the giant Coyote robot was something different because up to that point, he just zooms around the desert oblivious to what The Coyote's gonna do next to catch him. Is he just doing it for the exercise? is he always one step ahead of The Coyote's plans? Is he unaware of his existence? We never know.
The theme song for The Road Runner Show heavily implies that the Road Runner just enjoys running on the road, and is just innocently minding his own business, unaware of the Coyote's existence.
As composed by Barbara Cameron.
Great commentary, once again, Trevor! I have to admit the only time I laughed out loud when watching was seeing the look of terror in the real coyote's eyes as the tin coyote fell from the canyon. I also thought the explosion at the beginning was a cool effect.
That said, I would agree that only Chuck Jones could do the Road Runner/ Coyote series properly.
Rudy Larriva really doesn’t understand the dynamic of the Road Runner and the Coyote
Virgil Ross animates Wile E. rising from the tub at 1:58 (one ear tilts more than the other), then makes RR quiver at 2:55.
I think generally the most vibrant and appealing Looney Tunes characters had at least SOME formula breakers. Like Bugs was USUALLY in the trickster role but he had moments of playing the fall guy or even cases he wasn't pit against any character and that made him seem like a three dimensional character. Elmer similarly wasn't a hunter all the time, while Daffy and Porky could do just about ANYTHING. They got tied to key shticks after a while, but all the same, I don't think they'd be as iconic if that was ALL the character display they ever got. I like those odd unconventional uses of the other characters like Pepe in Odor of the Day for this reason, just seeing a different side to them.
Road Runner is excusable since Jones made clear he was made to be more a prop than a real character, still I think it worked to have that one token time Wile was actually something of a threat to him, it's just a shame it wasn't in a better era of the franchise. (They seemed to like downplaying the one sided rivalries in the De Patie Freleng years, Speedy similarly got challenged or even lost to Daffy sometimes, something Sylvester never really managed before.)
Yeah, these latter cartoons did not age well compared to the older ones. That said, I still loved them as a kid. And I remember amusing the hell out of a friend when we were playing with action figures and I was stomping around with some robot imitating those sounds that the Mecha Coyote's internal mechanisms made.
I actually enjoyed this one. The only error I saw was in the final scene. When the coyote told robo-coyote to try again, why didn't he get shocked since he was standing between its ears? It happened the first time.
He may have fixed it between fade-outs, who knows?
A lot of the ACME products seen in these cartoons were predictions of future technology. Was this one predicting the driverless car? I've hoped someday there will be one that has a remote so that if one is full of energy but has to haul heavy loads to or from home or other destinations, one could load their goods into the robotic car, lock it, use the remote to send the car to its destination, walk to its destination, and upon arriving at the destination, unlock the driverless car and unload their goods.
5:57 wrong fast character
The fact that Format Films won an Oscar before this isn't meant to make it better, it makes things worse, if you look at the email I said that it was sad that they got a Oscar but ended up making this later.
The only way it could be worse is if the Coyote and Roadrunner were partners who dressed in anime battle gear and spoke.
- trevor.
but we all know that wb wouldn't be stupid enough o do that. if they did, they would be loonatics. loonatics who were unleashed onto the world
WTF is with all the haters here?? Jesus I'm totally nostalgic of these cartoons and miss them. And I saw them in 1976. This was when the going animations were 1967 Spider-Man and Rocket Robin Hood. Why's everyone trying harsh the buzz of these groundbreaking toons??
Remember the BEST America was turning in was those STUPID HULK, CAPTAIN AMERICA, AND THOR CARTOONS!! And those weren't even full motion... But noooo shit on legitimate animation history.
Yeesh. Have respect for history... At least Canadian animators turned in Spider-Man and Rocket Robin Hood.
The animation unit {Grantray-Lawrence} who worked on the "MARVEL SUPER HEROES" TV series had about a fraction of the production budget Format {and DePatie-Freleng} had for the Road Runner theatricals; they were expected to grind out 65 half hours [195 segments] of that daily series. And the results ranged from "okay" to "so-so".
5:32- I think the robot didn't like being called "stupid"- and swallowed the Coyote instead. If it could talk, it might have said-
"NO-ONE-CALLS- *ME* -'STUPID'-AND-GETS-A-WAY-WITH-IT!"
I hated that period with those wrong-looking logos and repetitive plots. I'm glad Bugs Bunny wasn't alive when these were made or else he would have been in awful shorts. What? He wasn't dead? Just retired to television? Oh. TV's awesome. He knew where the money was.
During those dark years of Looney Tunes between late-1964 to 1969, Bugs Bunny, Tweety, Elmer Fudd, Pepe Le Pew, Marvin the Martian, Taz and Foghorn Leghorn all retired to television. Meanwhile Porky Pig, Sylvester and Granny very rarely appeared in any cartoons during the DePatie-Freleng era of the mid-1960s.
What are you talking about? These WERE on TV. The Bugs Bunny Road Runner hour.
After a three year hiatus, Herb Klynn reactivated "Format Films" in 1965. Not only did they produce commercials, TV title sequences {"I SPY", "THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS SHOW", "ACCIDENTAL FAMILY", "HEE HAW"} and the majority of the 1966-'67 "LONE RANGER" cartoons for Jack Wrather, they also produced the bulk of the Road Runner cartoons when DePatie-Freleng was too busy with the Pink Panther series {yet Dave and Friz recieved sole credit, as per their exclusive contract with Warners}.
That's true. All 11 Rudy Larriva cartoons have the credit that says "Produced by David H. DePatie & Friz Freleng"(The "H" stands for Hudson if you read the "Think Pink" book.)
Yes! It wasn't until after DePatie-Freleng's contract ended did Herb Klynn receive credit for three 1967 Daffy & Speedy cartoons directed by Larriva {"Quacker Tracker", "The Musical Mice-Tro", "The Spy Swatter"}, before Alex Lovy took over production under Bill Hendricks.
Though Hendricks did receive credit on the last 2 Format Films Daffy and Speedy shorts.
At 2:04, in the dump, there is a sign that seems to read "FOR SALE RHINOCEROS, ELEPHANT, LEOPARD". I wonder if it is a shout-out to another Looney Tunes cartoon.
Sorry, I requested this because in one of the comment sections you said you liked this one, also I have very good news, besides for Feather Finger I don't intend on requesting any more DFE shorts for a while.
Well don't apologize, man. Only people who should apologize about their opinions are folks that own MAGA hats. Did I really say that I liked this short? I don't remember that. It IS noteworthy for a few things that I mentioned, but I don't recall liking any of the DFE Larriva Roadrunner shorts.
- trevor.
Ferris Wheelhouse Alienating your audience won’t do you any favours, mate.
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic I just remember you saying that you don't dislike all the DFE projects, and then you mentioned this short and "A haunting we will go" because you liked June Foray in it.
@@d-manthecaptain1382 That cartoon's weird. I don't know why I like it. Maybe it is June. I'm also a fan of the color. 'Glass Huarache' isn't DFE/Seven Arts is it?
@@TheLooneyTunesCritic No, I believe that was the last Warner Brothers produced short.
I already know you'll hate this cartoon, knowing your opinions given on these shorts in the past, so I'm typing this out before I watch... I may reply later.
So, this was the first LT cartoon I saw (on Nickelodeon, 1988) that had the wacky 60s opening, and my dad had to explain it to me. Then the cartoon starts, and there's no funny science words in parentheses like all the others which I thought was weird. But when Wile E. was making his giant robot, what I found interesting was the Road Runner, showing more emotions than just gleefully running and outrunning the adversary, feeling suspicious, curious, fear and surprise. That's kind of interesting. Plus, some gags are pretty good. It's still not great, but I'd put it in the "better" pile of mid60s Looney Tunes just for that. but I'm one guy, one that can't hate it.
Didn't disappoint. Ah well, different strokes.
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I've been in diminsons where the road runner always looks terrified of the coyote for a second, then goes back to normal.
Rudy Larriva did a better job at UPA with Mr maggo and Gerald mcboing boing than this (to be honest)
Hello Trevor I have this short on DVD Called Looney tunes super stars road runner and Wile E coyote
hopefully, we can get some actually good road runner cartoons on here soon
Ugh! I hated these badly-animated WB cartoons as a kid. Look at the run cycle on the metal coyote! It looks like Total Television animated it!
TTP had most of their cartoons animated by Gamma Productions in Mexico, like Jay Ward did.
How UnImaginable!
Good God this short was boring
Ferris, any word on the StriveLeams? Did I miss anything?
I always saw this on CN, and I still think it's a pile of shit. I only like that one cartoon w/ Porky and Daffy on Halloween that DePatie and Freleng made. Everything else sucks
@Drop the Chalupa! Well, to each his own. Any idea when we'll get a StriveLeam?
I subscribed to you channel 6 months ago
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What is it with these Rudy Larriva cartoons? Can't DFE come up with anything original?
Awful.. Soooo AWFUL!